Serina is Broken

Holy crap someone is telling me they just patched it already

umm. Ur really going to talk -Yoink- about a normal/Under powered leader when theres still stuff like combat salvage in the game… please… stop… lmao

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> Serina can freeze your entire base and completely stop all production just a few mins into the game. Theres nothing you can do, you cant build turrets cause those will freeze too and the ice takes too long to kill with infantry or scouts and they most likely will freeze too You will be way behind and get steam rolled. Good job 343…

Yeah if this starts becoming abused (most likely will) this will be another season I take a break. Took a break last season due to the boredom I got from season 3.

Came around here to see if the game is getting fixed by some miracle. Looks like it’s getting worse lmao.

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> umm. Ur really going to talk -Yoink- about a normal/Under powered leader when theres still stuff like combat salvage in the game… please… stop… lmao

I have told people that combat salvage is the only reason i could make forge work really and that if they buffed the other aspects of him they would probably need to nerf it because getting 8 vultures for free is some good -Yoink-.

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> Serina can freeze your entire base and completely stop all production just a few mins into the game. Theres nothing you can do, you cant build turrets cause those will freeze too and the ice takes too long to kill with infantry or scouts and they most likely will freeze too You will be way behind and get steam rolled. Good job 343…

How exactly did this happen?

I tried it against the AI but the legendary AI is so damn bad that it is unreliable to really make an opinion based on it.

Anyways, I went armory first and rallied to the enemy base, locked down and eventually killed their base.

After trying it in several maps I tried online, didn’t work lol. So I’m curious as to what was the build order in that game of yours…

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> Serina can freeze your entire base and completely stop all production just a few mins into the game. Theres nothing you can do, you cant build turrets cause those will freeze too and the ice takes too long to kill with infantry or scouts and they most likely will freeze too You will be way behind and get steam rolled. Good job 343…

oh so it does stop production

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> > 2535422802208233;1:
> > Serina can freeze your entire base and completely stop all production just a few mins into the game. Theres nothing you can do, you cant build turrets cause those will freeze too and the ice takes too long to kill with infantry or scouts and they most likely will freeze too You will be way behind and get steam rolled. Good job 343…
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> How exactly did this happen?
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> I tried it against the AI but the legendary AI is so damn bad that it is unreliable to really make an opinion based on it.
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> Anyways, I went armory first and rallied to the enemy base, locked down and eventually killed their base.
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> After trying it in several maps I tried online, didn’t work lol. So I’m curious as to what was the build order in that game of yours…

I use to think the ai legendary was bad but now it seems to be good cause it did a lot better than when the game came out

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> > Serina can freeze your entire base and completely stop all production just a few mins into the game. Theres nothing you can do, you cant build turrets cause those will freeze too and the ice takes too long to kill with infantry or scouts and they most likely will freeze too You will be way behind and get steam rolled. Good job 343…
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> How exactly did this happen?
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> I tried it against the AI but the legendary AI is so damn bad that it is unreliable to really make an opinion based on it.
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> Anyways, I went armory first and rallied to the enemy base, locked down and eventually killed their base.
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> After trying it in several maps I tried online, didn’t work lol. So I’m curious as to what was the build order in that game of yours…

They used the ICe call down not the ice cream truck

The cryo- unit drop combo is the worst one. The unit drop hits with 3- read, 3- seismic charges. Any unit that is frozen dies to it instantly. I had a full pop wiped by that combo.

I tried to give her a chance at first, and held out hope she wasn’t THAT bad. I was wrong. She’s blatantly overpowered, much like the forgehog. The icing mechanic is in need of a total rework.

I SAID FREEEEEEEEEEEEZE. I had a 50min game cuz them bois froze my base and we basically switched sides of the map. Every encounter was cold and brainless. My doods just froze like whats the point in micro and macro lol

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> > Serina can freeze your entire base and completely stop all production just a few mins into the game. Theres nothing you can do, you cant build turrets cause those will freeze too and the ice takes too long to kill with infantry or scouts and they most likely will freeze too You will be way behind and get steam rolled. Good job 343…
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> How exactly did this happen?
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> I tried it against the AI but the legendary AI is so damn bad that it is unreliable to really make an opinion based on it.
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> Anyways, I went armory first and rallied to the enemy base, locked down and eventually killed their base.
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> After trying it in several maps I tried online, didn’t work lol. So I’m curious as to what was the build order in that game of yours…

I found that you need Ice Barrier level 2 to freeze a base

Just played as Colony and forge in 2v2 against double Serena. Champion players 1 top 10 in 3s
The freezing is crazy we lost the first game came back the second game ended up winning a late game against her. I was forced to go banshees to combat the freezing. And then use Colony vehicle drop along with hunters brand to kill the armies.
Forge used kodiaks and Grizzlies to fight them outside the cold. Along with Scatter bomb.
The freezing is very difficult to fight. But it can be defeated. Being Colony it was so painful in the cold and he moves slow already. Hunters Brand was my friend that game.

Guys, im not completely sure she’s broken but im definitely leaning that way. BUT I SWEAR I HATE HER SO MUCH. I just spent 75 min playing a game that was dragged out because of her. I seriously had every leader point unlocked except for the last 2 levels of fury. I loathe Serina.

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> > > > The cryo- unit drop combo is the worst one. The unit drop hits with 3- read, 3- seismic charges. Any unit that is frozen dies to it instantly. I had a full pop wiped by that combo.
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> > > > I tried to give her a chance at first, and held out hope she wasn’t THAT bad. I was wrong. She’s blatantly overpowered, much like the forgehog. The icing mechanic is in need of a total rework.
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> They used the ICe call down not the ice cream truck

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> The cryo- unit drop combo is the worst one. The unit drop hits with 3- read, 3- seismic charges. Any unit that is frozen dies to it instantly. I had a full pop wiped by that combo.
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> I tried to give her a chance at first, and held out hope she wasn’t THAT bad. I was wrong. She’s blatantly overpowered, much like the forgehog. The icing mechanic is in need of a total rework.

OK so I was playing really stupid then, I didn’t know what LP order to go. Didn’t know cryo drop also triggered seismic blasts lol that’s broken.

I disagree, play her Serina :-1:

Yeah just build Mini bases early to get 2nd leader point I like to get a scout and drop ice cycles when the game starts then I have it back when i get my second point. So i just freeze their entire base when that happens. This is stupid 343 NEEDS to make Ice barrier away from bases where it has no effect on bases.

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> Yeah just build Mini bases early to get 2nd leader point I like to get a scout and drop ice cycles when the game starts then I have it back when i get my second point. So i just freeze their entire base when that happens. This is stupid 343 NEEDS to make Ice barrier away from bases where it has no effect on bases.

You are still able to do this?

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> > Yeah just build Mini bases early to get 2nd leader point I like to get a scout and drop ice cycles when the game starts then I have it back when i get my second point. So i just freeze their entire base when that happens. This is stupid 343 NEEDS to make Ice barrier away from bases where it has no effect on bases.
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> You are still able to do this?

yup just did it 30 min ago

But I thought that we should wait a week or two before deciding that a leader is Op😕.

You mean to tell me that high level players just say -Yoink- so they can pad their win percentage for as long as possible😕?

Yet again another reason why alot of high level guys shouldn’t be taken seriously :joy: