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> > > > > > there is no option and 343 is full ahead on giving us the inferior coating system (no matter what a coating system where you can choose the colors and the coating defines all other aspects is what would be best) so its doubtfull well ever get RvB again. its one of the many reason why im not that excited for multiplayer.
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> > > > > I actually love the new coating system; I think it will add loads of value to the challenge system and gives more options for unlockable and ongoing rewards to game the game feeling interesting in the future.
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> > > > > As for accessibility though, I do think it might be a good idea to add the option for solid red vs blue team colors for those who have difficulty in seeing the outlines.
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> > > > > If they were to let us choose just primary and secondary colors on the 24 non-recruit coatings that were in the first flight, we could have somewhere around 84,000 color combinations. and now lets say your one of those “only white, grey and black primaries count” people, well then that would still give us over 4,000 combinations using those 24 coatings as a base. thats more then what halo 5 had (3,600 possible combinations). personally im pressed to think well even have 4,000 coatings in 5 years and god just imagine scrolling through that UI to find one.
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> > > > this fact makes the coating system inferior in every way to a mixed system. there is no way anyone could conceivably actually think that 84,000 or even 4,000 is worse then 24.
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> > > What’s with so many people on these forums thinking their personal opinions are facts?
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> > > You like the old color system more, and that’s fine. But just because you have a preference for a larger number of different combinations, that doesn’t mean it’s a fact that the coating system is inferior.
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> > > I personally think the coating system is far superior because there are far more variations in the color placement and textures/patterns that can be implemented into the armor, AND it can also be implemented into the challenge and battle pass system giving more rewards and goals to look forward to for years to come. Whereas the old system was pretty much set your color and then forget about it until the next halo game was released, this system gives me a chance to show off coatings that I earned through certain challenges or events, and with the possibility of new and different patterns being released over time it’s much more likely that I will be trying out different coatings as I unlock them. I’m not saying you need to feel the same way, I’m just saying that it’s certainly not a ‘fact’ that the coatings system is inferior.
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> > today i learned that 24 options is “more customization” then 84,000 options. also i dont get the idea of “showing off” i havent looked at a single persons spartan or elite in all my years of halo. i see team color and shoot till dead and move on. only person that my spartan matters to is me. its why i dont care about toggles or forced team colors as it literally doesnt effect me if someone else sees my spartan or not.
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> > > far more variations in the color placement and textures/patterns that can be implemented into the armor, AND it can also be implemented into the challenge and battle pass system giving more rewards and goals to look forward to for years to come.
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> > all of these points are still completely valid in a mixed system that lets you choose the color but has the coating decide; color regions, metalness, roughness, emissive, and so on. this isnt a point for only have 24 over 84,000.
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> > > Whereas the old system was pretty much set your color and then forget about it until the next halo game was released,
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> > thats the hope I mean in infinite im going to be in what ever it defaults me into until either the game shuts down or they add custom colors.
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> > > with the possibility of new and different patterns being released over time it’s much more likely that I will be trying out different coatings as I unlock them.
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> > again this is still possible with a mixed system.
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> > > I’m just saying that it’s certainly not a ‘fact’ that the coatings system is inferior.
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> > It is, both the coating system and the color system by themselves are inferior to a mixed system, thats just a fact. im not saying they are bad, im saying they are inferior, there is a difference there.
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> Regarding your last comment, that’s not a fact it’s your opinion, and I disagree with it. The biggest point of difference is that the coatings system allows new coatings to be rewarded for completing challenges and ranking up through the battlepass.
again this isnt something that cant happen with a mixed system to try and say it cant and is only available to the current coating systems is a lie at worse a misrepresentation at best
> If every colour combination was unlocked by default that in my opinion is a missed opportunity to provide more challenges. That’s my opinion, yours is different and that’s fine, but to say that your opinion is fact is really just sad (unless you’re a child, in which case I understand).
this line shows me you have 100% misinterpreted my point at best or just ignored it at worse, there is nothing stopping them from adding in new coatings and every new coating still allowing us to change primary and secondary colors. the amount of possible combinations would grow with every new coating that was added. also be careful with that last line dont want to get in trouble with mods for attempting to throw play ground insults.
> And why do you keep mentioning only 24 different coatings? Did you actually think this flight was the final game and that’s all the content that it’s launching with? In case you’re unaware, this is just a test, with a tiny sample of what will be available at launch. They’ve already said there will be much more and that they will continue adding more over the months and years to come.
lets crack open the ol’ dictionary
EXAMPLE - one that is representative of all of a group or type - a parallel or closely similar case especially when serving as a precedent or model - an instance (such as a problem to be solved) serving to illustrate a rule or precept or to act as an exercise in the application of a ruleagain i was using the 24 from the first flight as an example of how exponentially more there could be. hell lets say that the game launches with 117 coatings (this is an example again) well that means that you could use 1 of 117 possible combinations OR you could have had 117 base coatings with 60 primary and 60 secondary option giving you 421,200 possible combinations.
now lets say its a year after launch and were 4 season in and now there is 300 coatings. well a year after launch you can have one of 300 color combinations or you could have had one of 1,080,000 possible combinations. you see how it could grown as the time went on because nothing is stopping them from adding more even with color choice being a thing. all it does is let people have more choice which is always better then less choice.