Or the plumber told us that he would be providing nice faucets through work, only to show up with a catalog of overpriced faucets~~
I already left Halo and went back to D2. I’m currently using their tribute to the Halo magnum to wreck random enemies laid in front of me by an unknowable hyper star horse in a cosmic game show called Dares of Eternity.
It’s a lot more fun than this game, currently. Halo can’t even run consistently with its wonky netcode. I’m over how companies release messed up games and expect fans to deal with it until they get around to fixing it. If 343i wants to blame Xmas break for not being able to fix their release, perhaps they should have either buffed their QA game and found/squashed the bugs prior to release or just NOT RELEASED a game during Xmas break when they know no one will be able to fix it.
I’m also targeting 343i management with my statements as I know the actual devs do the best they can given the many variables they’re expected to work under. They did a lot of things right with this game. I find it impossible to believe that the most controversial choices in this game like customization and the store were made by devs. However, I find it more believable that the devs may be sticking it to management knowing the choices they have made for them would ultimately dampen the user experience… by taking the rest of the year off after release. LOL
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But you didn’t pay for the faucets up front so it doesn’t matter.
If this was a $100 game and they were withholding these things it would be different. It’s free to play and stuff is filtering in. The stuff you choose to pay for is stuff you CHOSE to pay for.
People are really looking at this topic in an entitled way. We aren’t owed anything.
You watched the video right?
The only thing I feel entitled to is the worth of my dollar, it’s bad enough that the government is making it worth less than it is, I don’t need a company telling me things are gonna be unlockable only to have everything be behind a paywall!
Yes. They said the game would have a lot of content it doesn’t have. But nobody is paying for the game up front. If you paid for campaign and they didn’t have a campaign, that would be worth being this upset about.
People are ranting for weeks on end because of the colors they have access to on their armors like it’s the end of the world. It’s a mild inconvenience at best.
I’m sure they’re going to add more and more content over time but they’re struggling just to make the game playable right now, and that’s what people need to focus on.
Yeah but budget/time I have a hard time being sympathetic.
I mean people can’t say they aren’t getting what they paid for
no one is!
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Although I understand your point, and it is certainly valid…
We buy packs and DLC and pre orders with special outfits in games like Resident Evil and we are showing off to the zombies. We buy that special hat or helmet that does nothing but looks cool in other RPG games, and other single player games just to show off to the enemy trolls and innkeepers of your favorite town.
It only speaks loudly IF, and ONLY IF finding a match becomes difficult. If that does not happen and the game continues to make a steady income on a small player base…that is a success and they will not change their operating model.
I would like to see the player count for Fortnite/Apex vs the amount of microtransactions. I would like to see the player drop offs vs new downloads and see how many people paid $60 or less vs $61+.
It’s not so much about the colors. When you make a fan a promise you keep it. You’re dealing with a lot of people that grew up with bungie here bro, there’s a quality expected in a halo game. Every halo game in bungie’s releases had more customization, better gameplay, and a larger amount of stuff to do. Halo infinite is literally going backwards, there’s less stuff to do, and less customization, when we were in fact promised more customization. HI’s campaign was super fun and beautiful though I’ll give them that, not as great of a story as the trilogy but definitely a great starting point.
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I’m gonna keep watching, but after 3 minutes I’m skeptical. The first paragraph he brings up he doesn’t actually “prove” anything. His only issue is “There’s not that many parts to swap.”
That doesn’t disprove anything from paragraph 1, it’s more of a complaint about the rate at which cosmetics are being released (which is a problem).
Then he takes issue with “we want everyone to build their dream Spartan.” And all he does is show a clip of a random spartan with the “bruh” meme and moves on.
Then he takes issue with “we want players to be able to get their old favorites,” then complains that there are reach items in the shop. This isn’t a broken promise or a lie. Now if they said something about “earning” their old favorites for “free,” he’d have a leg to stand on.
Then he complains about “Much like MCC, I want to bring everything to infinite” and he conveniently leaves out the word “eventually” that’s right there on the screen.
I’ll keep going, but this isn’t really a big slam dunk video so far.
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Yes, they say you’ll be able to swap out parts, he shows that you can’t. There’s nothing to be skeptical about in that it’s right in front of you plain as day.
Nobody can create their dream Spartan, we’re stuck with a handful of colors and a trash library of armor sets. The “bruh” was supposed to insinuate what we’re all feeling, anyone that’s played reach or 3 and have already built their dream Spartan should feel pretty cheated right about now, myself included.
The reason he brings up the “old favorites” is because this post was 343’s defense for their decision to go free to play. It was implied, and even pretty much said that we’ll be able to unlock a lot of our old favorites through gameplay, when really that’s not the case at all. The customization is horrid and boy does it need work, I’m sure we can both at least agree here.
You’ve got a point on the “eventually” part, idk what to say about that one other than that you’re correct.
It’s a good video, it shows they lie. I don’t think white knighting for 343 is any more beneficial than someone aimlessly and pointlessly bashing them. We should hold game companies to their word, and believe in a high standard for gaming. Those of us that grew up with halo 3 and halo reach got more customization in either of those games than in this one, and we got forge, and we got a working theater, working custom games, co-op, a variety of gametypes and playlists, and firefight. 343 Didn’t deliver, and they lied to us. You might like 343, and care about them a lot, but don’t let that blind you from the true criticisms people bring up about them.
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If anyone is interested. He just dropped another one now reflecting the game reveal trailer.
Ok, but by the logic of your original comment, you should just keep playing and not spend money? This does not hurt 343 at all, it in fact keeps the game populated for their whales.
The only thing the average player can do is withhold their time.
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True, but every Bungie game also launched for $60+, with more expensive editions that gave you exclusive content, and you paid for every dlc that released.
They also had to patch the Bungie games as well, they didn’t launch perfect.
We’re getting what we paid for with Infinite, because most people didn’t pay a penny.
I think they will have seasons for every game. Like, Heroes of Reach is a bunch of content from Reach, maybe they’ll have H:CE, season, H2,H3,H4,H5 season, H3:ODST seasons (maybe ODST would go in with H3)
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Weird. I’m able to swap out parts just fine in game.
Except the first three minutes where he demonstrates absolutely no contradiction. I watched another minute and he complains about the claim that you can unlock rewards by “playing campaign, challenges, skill, special events, legacy rewards, and the progression system,” and as far as I’m aware most of these are currently in game.
I’ve seen a lot of weebs creating their dream samurai spartans. This is such a nebulous goal that it’s impossible to prove or disprove. Everyone’s dream spartan is totally subjective. Maybe my dream spartan has a mini halo ring floating above his head. Until they put that in the game, they must have lied.
I know what it’s supposed to mean. The point is that this thread is about “evidence” in the video. I was expecting him to breakdown where they lied. Not throw a tired tiktok meme at me.
Well that would be a great thing to include in the video! I haven’t finished it, but does he? I didn’t see anything about them “pretty much saying” players would be able to unlock their old favorites for free.
I think the customization system itself is good, BUT there needs to be more content in the battle pass (free and paid), there should absolutely be an evergreen store page instead of only having rotating items, and 343 should be more forthcoming about upcoming events that have free cosmetics. I also wouldn’t mind cross-core armor swapping.
I agree. That’s why I absolutely complained when I found out you could buy levels in the battle pass. It was explicitly stated that if something must be earned (battle pass assets), then players won’t be able to bypass it with their wallet. Which was actually a lie.
Totally agree. I just don’t think this video is doing a great job so far. Maybe it gets better later on.
To be clear, we should absolutely stop playing…I believe that it will not have an effect until either
money is no longer spent on silly things like cat ears, color pallets and weapon charms.
or
the game is completely barron.
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The cognitive dissonance between quality of customization and literal interpretation of ‘amount of customization’ is absolutely tragic.
The cognitive dissonance between the lead up to release from the devs own words and what we got, tragic.
“Eventually” but in the mean time, please enjoy our $20 AI voices, $20 helmet and shoulder pads, $20 player trail, etc etc.
The whole F2P argument that they need money is just ridiculous. The IP has many revenue streams outside of the game. (Nailpolish, NERF, Rockstar, Doritos,)
No but they need money.
Sure.
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