Scuf vs elite?

So I’m thinking of getting a new controller, mainly for the paddles, I really like the colour scheme of the scuf and the elite is quite cool. From experience which one do you guys prefer and why? Thanks :slight_smile:

Elite for better build and trigger stops.

Scuf has better paddles. Both of these statements are of course my opinion. I’ve owned both and used both extensively.

I have both, they’re both a massive improvement over the standard controller but I can say with absolute certainty(in my opinion) that the new SCUF’s are better than the Elite. YES SCUF’s cost more when they are fully tricked out but if money isn’t a thing and you simply want the best controller available then the SCUF is the way to go. To me the paddles are in better spots to more comfortably rest your hands as the Elite paddles get in the way of gripping your controller properly. Also I would opt for the actual SCUF thumb sticks over the default xb1 sticks that come with it, they have a much better feel.

So in short you can’t go wrong with either controller but I much prefer the SCUF and I’ve been playing a pretty high level of Halo since the beginning of the franchise if that means anything to you.

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Awesome thanks guys, i was more focused on paddle placement but do you think the scuf joysticks actually make a big difference? I like the xb1 original. Also is it useful to have the triggers stopping so you can pull them faster?

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> I have both, they’re both a massive improvement over the standard controller but I can say with absolute certainty(in my opinion) that the new SCUF’s are better than the Elite. YES SCUF’s cost more when they are fully tricked out but if money isn’t a thing and you simply want the best controller available then the SCUF is the way to go. To me the paddles are in better spots to more comfortably rest your hands as the Elite paddles get in the way of gripping your controller properly. Also I would opt for the actual SCUF thumb sticks over the default xb1 sticks that come with it, they have a much better feel.
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> So in short you can’t go wrong with either controller but I much prefer the SCUF and I’ve been playing a pretty high level of Halo since the beginning of the franchise if that means anything to you.
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I had the Scuf thumbsticks on my Scuf One and only played with that controller for about 6 months before they tore up. The paint was wearing off and the sticks looked like they had melted on the tops. Also, it developed slow-turn in my right stick…something that doesn’t make any sense to me since I paid about $210 for the controller. I contacted Scuf and they said they would replace the sticks for the low price of $30 (that’s just to replace the sticks) because my controller wasn’t under their 90 DAY?!?! warranty. So I purchased the Elite and I can honestly say this thing is built to last. It also has a 1 year factory warranty in case something does go wrong, but for now, I haven’t had any problems with the thing.

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> Awesome thanks guys, i was more focused on paddle placement but do you think the scuf joysticks actually make a big difference? I like the xb1 original. Also is it useful to have the triggers stopping so you can pull them faster?

I don’t think they make a huge performance difference but they do feel better. Also I wouldn’t get trigger stops if you’re primarily going to be playing Halo with it. Trigger stops help a lot in games like COD where the quicker you pull the trigger the quicker some of the guns fire. The guns in Halo will only fire so fast to trigger stops make no difference and can also pose a problem with chargeup weapons.

That’s one definite benefit to the Elite controller is you can switch between trigger stops easily. But again if Halo is what you’re going for then trigger stops are pointless.

Hope this helps!

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Yeah definitely, lots of Internet reviews are saying elite is better, might try to see if my local GAME store will let me try one out! Thanks for the help!

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> Yeah definitely, lots of Internet reviews are saying elite is better, might try to see if my local GAME store will let me try one out! Thanks for the help!

The build quality of the Elite is wonderful… it definitely FEELS better in your hands, the finishes are very high level. However if paddle placement is a concern of yours then I really don’t think you will like the Elite. The paddles go sideways across the back and they make it so you can’t properly grip the controller the way you can without the paddles. The SCUF paddles go down vertically and are much more comfortable IMO.

Elite is better all around. Scuf has better paddle placement though.

The scuf quality is bad. Scuf sticks falling apart after about 7 months, have mic feedback from a shortage in the controller, had to remove the trigger stops because the rumble packs hit them, slow turn beginning in right thumb after 7 months.

Your best bet is the elite I promise.

I have a Scuf and I like it. been almost a year now and no problems with it. The scuf I have is the original xbox one scuf so I can’t say much for the new ones, although I doubt they are much different. Been wanting to pick up the Xbox One Elite Controller after hearing great things about it. I would honestly go with the Elite controller over the Scuf if I had to choose.

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> > Awesome thanks guys, i was more focused on paddle placement but do you think the scuf joysticks actually make a big difference? I like the xb1 original. Also is it useful to have the triggers stopping so you can pull them faster?
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> I don’t think they make a huge performance difference but they do feel better. Also I wouldn’t get trigger stops if you’re primarily going to be playing Halo with it. Trigger stops help a lot in games like COD where the quicker you pull the trigger the quicker some of the guns fire. The guns in Halo will only fire so fast to trigger stops make no difference and can also pose a problem with chargeup weapons.
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> Hope this helps!

Just to offer a friendly counter opinion, I love the trigger stops for halo. I always keep my elites trigger stops activated. The trick to using them is you have to adjust the bottom trigger levels in the accessory app on the xbone. It makes the triggers feel a lot better to me. I can still charge weapons, and use vehicle boosts, etc.

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> Just to offer a friendly counter opinion, I love the trigger stops for halo. I always keep my elites trigger stops activated. The trick to using them is you have to adjust the bottom trigger levels in the accessory app on the xbone. It makes the triggers feel a lot better to me. I can still charge weapons, and use vehicle boosts, etc.

For sure… as I said the Elite does trigger stops very well. The SCUF on the other hand once you install the trigger stops I don’t believe you can customize the trigger pull settings like you can with the Elite. Also trigger stops in a Halo game just come down to feel preference as they don’t give you any kind of edge on how fast you can fire.

To the OP, its all personal opinion, but one thing I would say is - don’t be put off too much but those who insist that the scuf paddle placement is better and that the elite is awkward and you can’t grip your controller. I think many who say this either have played with scuf before and thus just find switching to elite paddles feels weird, or they just can’t move past the lack of ability to death-grip your controller while using the elite. But the paddles on the elite, in my mind, are palced precisely where your 2nd and 3rd fingers would naturally go, and thus ergnomically its really nice. And if you spend more than a few minutes with the controller before forming your opinion, and just sit down and play it heaps for a week straight, you will no longer miss that death-grip type feel on the controller. Its not unstable in any way, nor do you actually need to have all those fingers curled around the controller to use it. I use all four paddles and they sit perfecly, and my hand is never uncfortable.

Again, this is all personal opinion, its jsut that I hear people often talk about the grip on the controller being an issue and I suspect that for most people, if you just sit down and play with it, you will never miss gripping the controller in that way, and the paddles on the slite sit just where they should, with very little movement needed (which is a good thing).

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Again, some friendly counter opinions: if someone and I are in a swat match each standing still with our reticles aimed at each other’s heads, and pull our triggers at the same speed, I may win because my trigger length is 1/2 what the other Spartan needs to pull. This advantage basically helps me get 1st shot. So yes, it doesn’t help me fire faster, but it can provide an advantage. Granted, it’s not a huge advantage, but an advantage nonetheless.

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> To the OP, its all personal opinion, but one thing I would say is - don’t be put off too much but those who insist that the scuf paddle placement is better and that the elite is awkward and you can’t grip your controller. I think many who say this either have played with scuf before and thus just find switching to elite paddles feels weird, or they just can’t move past the lack of ability to death-grip your controller while using the elite. But the paddles on the elite, in my mind, are palced precisely where your 2nd and 3rd fingers would naturally go, and thus ergnomically its really nice. And if you spend more than a few minutes with the controller before forming your opinion, and just sit down and play it heaps for a week straight, you will no longer miss that death-grip type feel on the controller. Its not unstable in any way, nor do you actually need to have all those fingers curled around the controller to use it. I use all four paddles and they sit perfecly, and my hand is never uncfortable.
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> Again, this is all personal opinion, its jsut that I hear people often talk about the grip on the controller being an issue and I suspect that for most people, if you just sit down and play with it, you will never miss gripping the controller in that way, and the paddles on the slite sit just where they should, with very little movement needed (which is a good thing).

My beef with the Elites paddles doesn’t lie in their placement, it lies in their sensitivity. They are actuated by soft, rubber buttons. The part of the paddle that presses the soft buttons is nearest where the paddle connects, giving it a lot of leverage. These facts combine so it takes little to no pressure to press the paddles and it gets me into trouble pretty frequently because I clench down on the controller in stressful fights.

The Scuf paddles have a more firm, mechanical button feel to them. The part of the paddle that actually presses the buttons is the part furthest from the part connected to the controller. They require more force to actuate which makes their paddles feel much nicer to me.

I have both controllers and I love them both, but I feel like the elite controller is better for halo. The trigger locks on the scuf denies you the ability to charge weapons such as rail gun, plasma caster, plasma pistol, and incineration cannon. With the elite you are just able to turn the trigger lock off/on with the switch on the bottom at a moments notice and it eliminates that problem. With the scuf, you have take off the back grips and change them out with the pair that don’t have the lock paddles on them which takes time. Also, with the elite you can fully customize the controller to how you want it through the app on Xbox such as the brightness of the light on it, placing dead zones on the triggers, re-mapping EVERY button, and changing the sensitivity of the sticks; not just how it looks. In the end, it ultimately comes down to what you want. Don’t let anyone’s opinion affect you’re decision.

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I agree and have owned both, I use the Elite now, it’s just built better Minus the paddles, but the paddles are exchangeable.

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> > To the OP, its all personal opinion, but one thing I would say is - don’t be put off too much but those who insist that the scuf paddle placement is better and that the elite is awkward and you can’t grip your controller. I think many who say this either have played with scuf before and thus just find switching to elite paddles feels weird, or they just can’t move past the lack of ability to death-grip your controller while using the elite. But the paddles on the elite, in my mind, are palced precisely where your 2nd and 3rd fingers would naturally go, and thus ergnomically its really nice. And if you spend more than a few minutes with the controller before forming your opinion, and just sit down and play it heaps for a week straight, you will no longer miss that death-grip type feel on the controller. Its not unstable in any way, nor do you actually need to have all those fingers curled around the controller to use it. I use all four paddles and they sit perfecly, and my hand is never uncfortable.
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> > Again, this is all personal opinion, its jsut that I hear people often talk about the grip on the controller being an issue and I suspect that for most people, if you just sit down and play with it, you will never miss gripping the controller in that way, and the paddles on the slite sit just where they should, with very little movement needed (which is a good thing).
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Same thing applies–youre just used to the scuf, and used to having a death grip on your controller. And theres nothing wrong with that, Im just pointing out to the OP that he should take it with a grain of salt when people say this. I see it on every post about elite vs scuf, and i think the OP deserves to know that most people say this only because of what they’re already used to. If OP doesnt already have paddles, i doubt he will find the elite’s too sensitive.

I can tell you that since like the maybe the first week, I never just accidentally press one of the paddles, its just a non-issue, not a problem in the slightest. And other people I’ve spoken to who have gotten an elite for the first time have found the same thing. And far from being an issue, for many people its a blessing - its far less stress on the hands to press something that requires a small amount of movement over something that requires more force. And most people would probably be better off if they stopped gripping the hell out of their controller.

Again, its personal preference, I just think the OP should know when making his choice that the sensitivity and placement of paddles on the elite will likely not be an issue. Once you use it and get used to it, its a good thing rather than a problem.