"Scorpion tank is inbound"

Scorpion tank is inbound? That’s awesome! Just one question. How come the enemy team gets it and not our team? Do you have like a personal bias for the enemy? A shortage in tanks maybe? OK, joking aside. I love BTB, but I think we can all agree that the vehicle and weapon spawns being random on each side is very unbalanced. Most often, only one team will get a tank while the others gets a weaker less useful vehicle. Or in the case of one game, the enemy team got their own scorpion and we did not get ours until about 3 minutes later. There definitely needs to be no randomization when its comes to vehicles or weapons, as it puts one team into a severe disadvantage.

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Generally, yeah, it seems to be the losing team gets the handicap better vehicle. That’s how it works. If your team has more points or kills, the other team gets the better vehicle to assist them. If you know the other team will get it, go steal it first. If teams are tied, you both get similar tier vehicles. Not sure if it’s score based or kill based, but generally in Objective modes, I always see the losing team get the tanks and air vehicles

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Nope. It’s random. I’ve been in plenty of games where we are losing and the other team gets a scorpion or wraith and we get a gungoose or chopper.

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If it does turn out to be intentionally designed as truly random, and not influenced by kills and scores in any way at all whatsoever, 343 should quit their jobs for putting a purely RNG win assist mechanic into BTB.

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They’ve already done that with the weapon spawns and weapon drops. I don’t know why you think they would be any more competent with vehicles.

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Weapon spawns and ordinance being randomly located isn’t a big issue. Honestly not sure why 343 even went back to it at all after the Halo 4 backlash, but unlike weapon drops, you can’t steal tanks once someone gets it. You can hijack air vehicles, but if the player is any good, they’ll never get low enough to let you. Power weapons typically don’t last long enough to get a kill with all the ammo. You can milk heavy vehicles as long as you’re able to hold it. I can get 20 kills with a Scorpion or Wasp

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Obviously the degree of impact is different, which is why the random vehicle spawns are so much worse.

We don’t need random weapon drops. We don’t need random vehicle drops. 343 just likes to come up with solutions to problems that didn’t exist. And then they end up creating actual problems because they implement it so poorly.

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343 has never created solutions to anything. 343 is the problem with these infamous Halo games. There are a few things here and there that might appeal to a niche group of people, but the large majority of decisions are always disliked

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Let me clarify…

“Solutions”

Imagine me using the air quotes as I say that. :rofl:

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Yeah, it’s random for sure. There are lots of things that are random in this game. It’s simply a sign that the game is unfinished.

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Thank you. The random weapon spawns and vehicle drops is annoying.

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I don’t understand why they changed vehicle BTB spawning so much.

Like, when they talked about pelican drops bringing in vehicles pre-release, I was pumped! I imagined Valhalla and all those times where vehicles spawn back at our base but no one realizes it. This seemed like a solution to that

I assumed the pelican drops would just be a visual indicator that vehicles were coming in. A big flying “HEY YOU, GET YOUR BUM OFF SPAWN AND COME GRAB THE WRAITH!”.

I did not think we’d get a new mechanic to inject RNG into BTB :frowning::disappointed_relieved:

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I mean, they should just quit based on the state of the game since “launch”.

Not a fan of either. I’ve had games where the other team has a tank and all my team got was a gungoose, two swords and a hammer to deal with it.

Not gonna lie, it was still a fun game but that is just me finding the humor in the situation. I can imagine some people did not find the humor in it became they were playing to win.

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Yup. It’s basically BTB Fiesta. It’s the equivalent of the other team getting rockets and swords while you get plasma pistol and ravager.

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I liked back in the day when BOTH bases get tanks as soon as the match starts + a cooldown that starts when a tank is destroyed. Respawning turrets would be nice, too.

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“Scorpion tank inbound”.

Enemy team is given two tanks and a wraith, while they’re already winning.

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I do have to say that there have been instances where the enemy team has gotten a Scorpion and a Wraith and my team clearly weren’t in the lead and we got nothing.

On the other hand though, it is a nice feeling to steal those vehicles when they appear :yum:

Overall I’m happy that the heavier vehicles are appearing more often, but there does need a bit of tweaking when it comes to the balancing of who gets what.

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I actually think BTB Super Fiesta would be better than normal BTB, because we would at least have heavy weapons and heavy vehicles able to spawn on the pads at base, like OG BTB, and it would be equally randomly unbalanced, instead of just randomly one sided unbalanced the entire match

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Ya id rather have at least one scorpion or wraith spawning at base thatd be nice