Scale Down Microtransactions and the Woke Campaign, Make Warzone A Paid Expansion Pack

“Make a difference”? You seem to think my goal is to bring people to my side, win hearts and minds, make people support my cause. You probably think I was “virtue signaling”. But that’s not really why I posted in this thread. I just saw some ignorant opinions and decided to try reasoning with them (while asking what it has to do with Halo, mind you). I wasn’t thinking “yeah this will make everyone love me!” while doing so.

You realize OP is the one who decided to play social (in)justice warrior in a game chat, fail to be an adult, and make this experience more dramatic than it needed to be, right?

Confusion breaks bones :bone:

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I do like all your points on this one. :slightly_smiling_face:

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Pretty wild takes in this thread, but interesting points of view from various people. Imo since tons of Halo Infinite feels like it came from Destiny 2, Laurette Agryna also feels like their version of Ikora Rey, and I don’t just mean a shaved head African woman, but her voice and personality are somewhat similar, but with a lot less effort I guess. Maybe they will give more of her in campaign or future Spartan Ops, to really pull her personality together, because you really got attached to the commanders in Destiny, so I hope they don’t just have her as a hollow insert character for the sake of having representation. I hate when media throws in token minority characters with no personality other than being a certain race or sexuality. I want the characters to actually feel like they belong in the story, and not be forgettable, like all the characters in Reach, ODST, and Sgt Johnson, that were very well written.

As for the body type debate, I do agree that the 3 options we have for waist size was pretty lazy, and barely noticeable, but I sincerely doubt 343 will make actual unique body types and heights, for hitbox reasons, armor reasons, and effort vs cost efficiency over profit reasons, for the same reason there will probably never be playable Elites again. Too much work, not enough profit.

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Yes, that one is a mystery to me as well

Yes, very good points.

Excellent comment.

I am actually surprised it wasn’t locked immediately. Constructive criticism threads of the battle pass were locked quickly.

Great points.

Yep.

Just Godwin’s Law.

Good take.

I think you got to get your priorities straight with what this post is about, you are hopping all over. I do not think this spartan trainer woman has much of a personality, gives off military vibes, or has any humor. I think we already know 343 is known for adding dull characters that do not make sense in a realistic setting. I am not sure if she will be a significant part of infinite, but I do not think what some call “blackwashing” is bad if the characters turn out to be designed well, I do hope we get someone like sergeant johnson. He was awesome. Forge will be free. You make people of your ideology look bad, and this is a gaming forum. I recommend reading and replying to some of my forums, of which I clearly and concisely point out problems in infinite and present solutions.

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What the devil are you on about?

There are trans spartans? Where? How can you tell?

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Fascist?!?

Get off Twitter, come back to reality and try to be less extreme.

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Immediately dismissed at the moment people start whining about “wokeness”. That’s a big red flag that says “I’m an uneducated idiot that doesn’t like to have my tiny world view challenged.”

seriously, if you complain about wokeness and cancel culture, you are being laughed out by everyone outside of your little redneck safe space.

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This is like watching people throw fuel into a wildfire.

But honestly this “There is that group of evil people in my mind. Now go and be angry at them”-Stuff is weird.

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Wow, okay, there is so much to unpack in your post. I do want more stereotypically feminine Spartans as an option, but Laurette is a specific person. Her body is hers. It doesn’t have to be what your ideal image of a woman is. Women have different body shapes, and that’s okay. The people wanting representation aren’t say there is anything wrong with the current body types, just that there should be more, at least in my experience.

Also, trans people aren’t mentally ill. That’s just offensive. And there is nothing wrong with being “woke”. Some people may be “woke” and get vocal and don’t try and understand the people they disagree with, and maybe that’s going too far. But having your eyes opened to prejudice that exists isn’t a bad thing in it of itself.

As for Warzone, I’m not against, but I want things like Forge and different playlists first. I don’t think it should the highest priority.

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Now for you.

I understand that using capitals in today’s text messaging is supposed to denote yelling. I have only used capitals to distinguish what I have added.

I imagine mods kicking back with a big bowl of popcorn, watching this dumpster fire of a thread burn. :smiley:

Not to take away anything from the torment that your family must have gone through @Imon_Spartan!

Yes I do. You live in a bubble of ignorance, to accuse me of being ignorant.

It is not my intention to talk about that issue here, it is something that is tried to heal generation after generation. I don’t want to put the spotlight on it.

I just find it outrageous that ignorant people come to me with the Godwin’s Law fallacy

This sounds like a childish tantrum saying “you more”

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There’s a lot in this debate, and I don’t want to get into. Just want to say, CAPITAL LETTERS WILL ALWAYS DENOTE CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL TO ME. Okay, I’m done joking now :yum:

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Wrong. I am 54. I have studied modern history. I have served and seen some horrendous acts. I am aware of Spains modern history. The Spanish American war, which I believe was based on an American lie. The Spanish Civil war and how H*tler used it as a staging ground for 1939. So, I am not ignorant, you are ignorant, to claim that I am ignorant.

Here we go, the childish tantrum gets thrown. The child chucking the tantrum, points the finger.

It tends to just be from the left side of the political polarisation. CNN, MSNBC, Washington Post and the New York Times spent 4 years doing it. It seems to have calmed down a little bit in 2021.