Sangheili (Elites) In New Trilogy Matchmaking (Part 1)

Games Halo 5: Guardians
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> > Well guys it’s been fun but I’m done with Halo if it’s not MCC. At least I can play as an Elite on that game.
>
> This is where some of us end our faith… I’m not angry or willing to throw hands, I’m just sad now.
> It’s hard to have a smile and have hope that they’re going to be added in the 10 year plan.
> I feel like even if they were added in later, it wouldn’t feel the same.
> Infinite’s launch to me feels sacred. Like a game’s launch should aim to fix this problem of a lack of faith in a game’s community, because everything is there from the get-go. A completed launch is meaningful because it shows they had it all planned and ready and that they don’t have to resort to having content needing to be added later. There is still faith that exists, that playable elites are going to be added later on in the 10 year plan, but for me… it just don’t feel right anymore to still have faith.
> One can only take so much…
>
> I feel like finite is going to be a great game for a lot of people, and I think that’s a great thing to have for Halo as a whole. That said, I still feel like it would’ve been worth listening and adding playable elites to the launch plan and not just let it be shuffled aside as a side thing that maybe they’ll add 6 years, 4 years, maybe even 2 years into the 10 year plan.
> At this point, 8 years later, 900 pages later, Playable Elites don’t feel like just a side thing that should be added later. I feel like for some of us its the deal-breaker. I see a lot of people saying how stupid that is but… it’s just reality. People really care about playable elites, and it’s hard to tell someone that they’re wrong for having feelings about things.
>
> To gamble with faith is dangerous.
> Then again, that’s just how life is.

Yeah I’m pretty much skipping the new Halo until and if the elites are added or I can’t play MCC on my Xbox one anymore

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Let’s face it, they’re not making Halo because their passionate about it. If they we’re many aspects of Halo would be in it. They just making it for Money.
343I can’t ignore Elites. we are a Major part of the player base, even if people don’t play them that much. There was a special bond between Spartan user and Elite users because of these devide. You could really see it in Clans, Machinima, Screenshots, Forge Creations, and Invasion. Oh even Firefight. that’s 6 major elements of Halo Elites affected in positive ways. Clans because people love the Covenant vs Humans. It’s fun I must admit. Machinima, I don’t really need to explain this one but it’s a common thing among Machinima. Screenshots while less common I found Elites we’re used in memes are more than spartans. Forge Creations Maps that inspired Spartan designs also fluxed how Elite style maps we’re made. Made forge creators thing about how Elite would also play a role among their maps. Especially for invasion. which I might add is very self explanatory. then Firefight, while prob the most least common they introduced Versus Firefight, which was pretty cool to fight along side the covenant in firefight.

The bond Elites and Spartans shared among MP just isn’t the same without them. I’ll admit I’m for a CE approach to halo, but I did not mean that as a pass to removed Elites and go back to Spartan Vs Spartan only. Instead of removing features of Halo, I expected them to innovate them. Which appears they failed to do.

I honestly don’t know what else to say. Halo Infinite will not feel like a spiritual reboot without Elites. At least to me.

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> > > Well guys it’s been fun but I’m done with Halo if it’s not MCC. At least I can play as an Elite on that game.
> >
> > This is where some of us end our faith… I’m not angry or willing to throw hands, I’m just sad now.
> > It’s hard to have a smile and have hope that they’re going to be added in the 10 year plan.
> > I feel like even if they were added in later, it wouldn’t feel the same.
> > Infinite’s launch to me feels sacred. Like a game’s launch should aim to fix this problem of a lack of faith in a game’s community, because everything is there from the get-go. A completed launch is meaningful because it shows they had it all planned and ready and that they don’t have to resort to having content needing to be added later. There is still faith that exists, that playable elites are going to be added later on in the 10 year plan, but for me… it just don’t feel right anymore to still have faith.
> > One can only take so much…
> >
> > I feel like finite is going to be a great game for a lot of people, and I think that’s a great thing to have for Halo as a whole. That said, I still feel like it would’ve been worth listening and adding playable elites to the launch plan and not just let it be shuffled aside as a side thing that maybe they’ll add 6 years, 4 years, maybe even 2 years into the 10 year plan.
> > At this point, 8 years later, 900 pages later, Playable Elites don’t feel like just a side thing that should be added later. I feel like for some of us its the deal-breaker. I see a lot of people saying how stupid that is but… it’s just reality. People really care about playable elites, and it’s hard to tell someone that they’re wrong for having feelings about things.
> >
> > To gamble with faith is dangerous.
> > Then again, that’s just how life is.
>
> Yeah I’m pretty much skipping the new Halo until and if the elites are added or I can’t play MCC on my Xbox one anymore

Not playing an entire game because of a character model not being available seems a bit over the top. I understand people’s love for elites but if the decision to not have them in Infinite right now has been made then that’s something we just have to accept. I can almost guarantee there are reasonable statistics that show the player population for elite character models just justify the decision that was made.
They could be added in the future but let’s worry about the future after the game releases.

Not to ruin anyone’s mojo or anything but when Infinite releases the population of Halo 5 & MCC WILL drop substantially. That’s just the truth. If y’all want to wait 10-15 mins for a match be my guest.
The game’s multiplayer is going to be free to play. There’s nothing barrier to entry with Halo Infinite.

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> > > > Well guys it’s been fun but I’m done with Halo if it’s not MCC. At least I can play as an Elite on that game.
> > >
> > > This is where some of us end our faith… I’m not angry or willing to throw hands, I’m just sad now.
> > > It’s hard to have a smile and have hope that they’re going to be added in the 10 year plan.
> > > I feel like even if they were added in later, it wouldn’t feel the same.
> > > Infinite’s launch to me feels sacred. Like a game’s launch should aim to fix this problem of a lack of faith in a game’s community, because everything is there from the get-go. A completed launch is meaningful because it shows they had it all planned and ready and that they don’t have to resort to having content needing to be added later. There is still faith that exists, that playable elites are going to be added later on in the 10 year plan, but for me… it just don’t feel right anymore to still have faith.
> > > One can only take so much…
> > >
> > > I feel like finite is going to be a great game for a lot of people, and I think that’s a great thing to have for Halo as a whole. That said, I still feel like it would’ve been worth listening and adding playable elites to the launch plan and not just let it be shuffled aside as a side thing that maybe they’ll add 6 years, 4 years, maybe even 2 years into the 10 year plan.
> > > At this point, 8 years later, 900 pages later, Playable Elites don’t feel like just a side thing that should be added later. I feel like for some of us its the deal-breaker. I see a lot of people saying how stupid that is but… it’s just reality. People really care about playable elites, and it’s hard to tell someone that they’re wrong for having feelings about things.
> > >
> > > To gamble with faith is dangerous.
> > > Then again, that’s just how life is.
> >
> > Yeah I’m pretty much skipping the new Halo until and if the elites are added or I can’t play MCC on my Xbox one anymore
>
> Not playing an entire game because of a character model not being available seems a bit over the top. I understand people’s love for elites but if the decision to not have them in Infinite right now has been made then that’s something we just have to accept. I can almost guarantee there are reasonable statistics that show the player population for elite character models just justify the decision that was made.
> They could be added in the future but let’s worry about the future after the game releases.
>
> Not to ruin anyone’s mojo or anything but when Infinite releases the population of Halo 5 & MCC WILL drop substantially. That’s just the truth. If y’all want to wait 10-15 mins for a match be my guest.
> The game’s multiplayer is going to be free to play. There’s nothing barrier to entry with Halo Infinite.

I would say you are correct in saying it’s a bit over the top if there wasn’t an 8 year history of this been happening. Realistically, you are right, it is something that we have to accept, but it’s not something that people have to enjoy. Like obviously Halo is not a community that holds their fans hostage like “you have to accept this fate and enjoy it”. That’s why, in my opinion, I find it more destructive when people tell Playable Elite advocators that they are ridiculous people for voicing disdain, by not buying the game because a feature has just been rejected time and time again.
In my opinion, that’s not really over-the-top, its actually quite smart, because the only way protest something is to boycott often times. if what people are really saying is that playable elites are not worth boycotting well… It’s not easy to weigh what different people will find more important in Halo. There is no objective opinion with Halo, everyone can have different reasons to be here. People who won’t buy the game because of playable elites are also something that we have to accept because, they’re not ridiculous people, they’re real people who have been disappointed multiple times over the course of 8 years despite contributing to a forum that has gained more than enough attention to warrant 343 taking notice. You can’t just breed the love for elites out of people, lest you wanna just control what people think, and like it or not, people who don’t want to play Halo if their requests and community rallies are not going to be acknowledged despite years of effort…
Well… They’re right. We’re not wrong for being disappointed. It’s no longer just about Playable Elites anymore, it’s now about how a sinfully large portion of the community has been ignored for 8 years. Any reasonable person would stop now and realize that this part of the community clearly isn’t wanted by the rest of Halo anymore, on account for how much we’ve tried and how little any of it all meant in the end.

Its perfectly justified now to say one is boycotting Infinite because it feels less about Playable Elites themselves being added and more about how long its been, how many people have banded together to make enough noise for 343 to take notice, and how frustrated people are to find they still aren’t being listened to. From that light, it’s actually quite civil to just say “I’m boycotting Infinite”, instead of going on the forums, cussing out 343, cussing out other people, making death threats, that sort of thing. It’s a way to be civil and still have a voice.

I think both sides have merit at the end of the day but one side clearly misunderstood by the grand majority of people,
either because people just don’t care about elites or think that PE advocators are just unreasonable, over-reactive people, which isn’t true.
We’re just a large group of people who thought we were eventually going to get playable elites after all we’ve done, when it’s starting look like we’re going to be ignored for the third time in 8 years.

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> > > > Well guys it’s been fun but I’m done with Halo if it’s not MCC. At least I can play as an Elite on that game.
> > >
> > > This is where some of us end our faith… I’m not angry or willing to throw hands, I’m just sad now.
> > > It’s hard to have a smile and have hope that they’re going to be added in the 10 year plan.
> > > I feel like even if they were added in later, it wouldn’t feel the same.
> > > Infinite’s launch to me feels sacred. Like a game’s launch should aim to fix this problem of a lack of faith in a game’s community, because everything is there from the get-go. A completed launch is meaningful because it shows they had it all planned and ready and that they don’t have to resort to having content needing to be added later. There is still faith that exists, that playable elites are going to be added later on in the 10 year plan, but for me… it just don’t feel right anymore to still have faith.
> > > One can only take so much…
> > >
> > > I feel like finite is going to be a great game for a lot of people, and I think that’s a great thing to have for Halo as a whole. That said, I still feel like it would’ve been worth listening and adding playable elites to the launch plan and not just let it be shuffled aside as a side thing that maybe they’ll add 6 years, 4 years, maybe even 2 years into the 10 year plan.
> > > At this point, 8 years later, 900 pages later, Playable Elites don’t feel like just a side thing that should be added later. I feel like for some of us its the deal-breaker. I see a lot of people saying how stupid that is but… it’s just reality. People really care about playable elites, and it’s hard to tell someone that they’re wrong for having feelings about things.
> > >
> > > To gamble with faith is dangerous.
> > > Then again, that’s just how life is.
> >
> > Yeah I’m pretty much skipping the new Halo until and if the elites are added or I can’t play MCC on my Xbox one anymore
>
> Not playing an entire game because of a character model not being available seems a bit over the top. I understand people’s love for elites but if the decision to not have them in Infinite right now has been made then that’s something we just have to accept. I can almost guarantee there are reasonable statistics that show the player population for elite character models just justify the decision that was made.
> They could be added in the future but let’s worry about the future after the game releases.
>
> Not to ruin anyone’s mojo or anything but when Infinite releases the population of Halo 5 & MCC WILL drop substantially. That’s just the truth. If y’all want to wait 10-15 mins for a match be my guest.
> The game’s multiplayer is going to be free to play. There’s nothing barrier to entry with Halo Infinite.

If this wasn’t a ten year game and elites could be talked about being added again in Halo 7 I wouldn’t care as much. But I’m not going on any more empty promises.

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> > > > > Well guys it’s been fun but I’m done with Halo if it’s not MCC. At least I can play as an Elite on that game.
> > > >
> > > > This is where some of us end our faith… I’m not angry or willing to throw hands, I’m just sad now.
> > > > It’s hard to have a smile and have hope that they’re going to be added in the 10 year plan.
> > > > I feel like even if they were added in later, it wouldn’t feel the same.
> > > > Infinite’s launch to me feels sacred. Like a game’s launch should aim to fix this problem of a lack of faith in a game’s community, because everything is there from the get-go. A completed launch is meaningful because it shows they had it all planned and ready and that they don’t have to resort to having content needing to be added later. There is still faith that exists, that playable elites are going to be added later on in the 10 year plan, but for me… it just don’t feel right anymore to still have faith.
> > > > One can only take so much…
> > > >
> > > > I feel like finite is going to be a great game for a lot of people, and I think that’s a great thing to have for Halo as a whole. That said, I still feel like it would’ve been worth listening and adding playable elites to the launch plan and not just let it be shuffled aside as a side thing that maybe they’ll add 6 years, 4 years, maybe even 2 years into the 10 year plan.
> > > > At this point, 8 years later, 900 pages later, Playable Elites don’t feel like just a side thing that should be added later. I feel like for some of us its the deal-breaker. I see a lot of people saying how stupid that is but… it’s just reality. People really care about playable elites, and it’s hard to tell someone that they’re wrong for having feelings about things.
> > > >
> > > > To gamble with faith is dangerous.
> > > > Then again, that’s just how life is.
> > >
> > > Yeah I’m pretty much skipping the new Halo until and if the elites are added or I can’t play MCC on my Xbox one anymore
> >
> > Not playing an entire game because of a character model not being available seems a bit over the top. I understand people’s love for elites but if the decision to not have them in Infinite right now has been made then that’s something we just have to accept. I can almost guarantee there are reasonable statistics that show the player population for elite character models just justify the decision that was made.
> > They could be added in the future but let’s worry about the future after the game releases.
> >
> > Not to ruin anyone’s mojo or anything but when Infinite releases the population of Halo 5 & MCC WILL drop substantially. That’s just the truth. If y’all want to wait 10-15 mins for a match be my guest.
> > The game’s multiplayer is going to be free to play. There’s nothing barrier to entry with Halo Infinite.
>
> If this wasn’t a ten year game and elites could be talked about being added again in Halo 7 I wouldn’t care as much. But I’m not going on any more empty promises.

Never was it stated that Halo Infinite would be supported for 10 years, rather that “Halo Infinite is the start of the next ten years of Halo”. That’s a big difference. Modern MMO’s are struggling to last ten years let alone a FPS arena shooter.

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> > > > > > Well guys it’s been fun but I’m done with Halo if it’s not MCC. At least I can play as an Elite on that game.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is where some of us end our faith… I’m not angry or willing to throw hands, I’m just sad now.
> > > > > It’s hard to have a smile and have hope that they’re going to be added in the 10 year plan.
> > > > > I feel like even if they were added in later, it wouldn’t feel the same.
> > > > > Infinite’s launch to me feels sacred. Like a game’s launch should aim to fix this problem of a lack of faith in a game’s community, because everything is there from the get-go. A completed launch is meaningful because it shows they had it all planned and ready and that they don’t have to resort to having content needing to be added later. There is still faith that exists, that playable elites are going to be added later on in the 10 year plan, but for me… it just don’t feel right anymore to still have faith.
> > > > > One can only take so much…
> > > > >
> > > > > I feel like finite is going to be a great game for a lot of people, and I think that’s a great thing to have for Halo as a whole. That said, I still feel like it would’ve been worth listening and adding playable elites to the launch plan and not just let it be shuffled aside as a side thing that maybe they’ll add 6 years, 4 years, maybe even 2 years into the 10 year plan.
> > > > > At this point, 8 years later, 900 pages later, Playable Elites don’t feel like just a side thing that should be added later. I feel like for some of us its the deal-breaker. I see a lot of people saying how stupid that is but… it’s just reality. People really care about playable elites, and it’s hard to tell someone that they’re wrong for having feelings about things.
> > > > >
> > > > > To gamble with faith is dangerous.
> > > > > Then again, that’s just how life is.
> > > >
> > > > Yeah I’m pretty much skipping the new Halo until and if the elites are added or I can’t play MCC on my Xbox one anymore
> > >
> > > Not playing an entire game because of a character model not being available seems a bit over the top. I understand people’s love for elites but if the decision to not have them in Infinite right now has been made then that’s something we just have to accept. I can almost guarantee there are reasonable statistics that show the player population for elite character models just justify the decision that was made.
> > > They could be added in the future but let’s worry about the future after the game releases.
> > >
> > > Not to ruin anyone’s mojo or anything but when Infinite releases the population of Halo 5 & MCC WILL drop substantially. That’s just the truth. If y’all want to wait 10-15 mins for a match be my guest.
> > > The game’s multiplayer is going to be free to play. There’s nothing barrier to entry with Halo Infinite.
> >
> > If this wasn’t a ten year game and elites could be talked about being added again in Halo 7 I wouldn’t care as much. But I’m not going on any more empty promises.
>
> Never was it stated that Halo Infinite would be supported for 10 years, rather that “Halo Infinite is the start of the next ten years of Halo”. That’s a big difference. Modern MMO’s are struggling to last ten years let alone a FPS arena shooter.

Do you have a link?

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> > > > > > > Well guys it’s been fun but I’m done with Halo if it’s not MCC. At least I can play as an Elite on that game.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is where some of us end our faith… I’m not angry or willing to throw hands, I’m just sad now.
> > > > > > It’s hard to have a smile and have hope that they’re going to be added in the 10 year plan.
> > > > > > I feel like even if they were added in later, it wouldn’t feel the same.
> > > > > > Infinite’s launch to me feels sacred. Like a game’s launch should aim to fix this problem of a lack of faith in a game’s community, because everything is there from the get-go. A completed launch is meaningful because it shows they had it all planned and ready and that they don’t have to resort to having content needing to be added later. There is still faith that exists, that playable elites are going to be added later on in the 10 year plan, but for me… it just don’t feel right anymore to still have faith.
> > > > > > One can only take so much…
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I feel like finite is going to be a great game for a lot of people, and I think that’s a great thing to have for Halo as a whole. That said, I still feel like it would’ve been worth listening and adding playable elites to the launch plan and not just let it be shuffled aside as a side thing that maybe they’ll add 6 years, 4 years, maybe even 2 years into the 10 year plan.
> > > > > > At this point, 8 years later, 900 pages later, Playable Elites don’t feel like just a side thing that should be added later. I feel like for some of us its the deal-breaker. I see a lot of people saying how stupid that is but… it’s just reality. People really care about playable elites, and it’s hard to tell someone that they’re wrong for having feelings about things.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To gamble with faith is dangerous.
> > > > > > Then again, that’s just how life is.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeah I’m pretty much skipping the new Halo until and if the elites are added or I can’t play MCC on my Xbox one anymore
> > > >
> > > > Not playing an entire game because of a character model not being available seems a bit over the top. I understand people’s love for elites but if the decision to not have them in Infinite right now has been made then that’s something we just have to accept. I can almost guarantee there are reasonable statistics that show the player population for elite character models just justify the decision that was made.
> > > > They could be added in the future but let’s worry about the future after the game releases.
> > > >
> > > > Not to ruin anyone’s mojo or anything but when Infinite releases the population of Halo 5 & MCC WILL drop substantially. That’s just the truth. If y’all want to wait 10-15 mins for a match be my guest.
> > > > The game’s multiplayer is going to be free to play. There’s nothing barrier to entry with Halo Infinite.
> > >
> > > If this wasn’t a ten year game and elites could be talked about being added again in Halo 7 I wouldn’t care as much. But I’m not going on any more empty promises.
> >
> > Never was it stated that Halo Infinite would be supported for 10 years, rather that “Halo Infinite is the start of the next ten years of Halo”. That’s a big difference. Modern MMO’s are struggling to last ten years let alone a FPS arena shooter.
>
> Do you have a link?

Give me a moment and I’ll find a link to that.

I’ll edit it into this comment.

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> > > > > > > > Well guys it’s been fun but I’m done with Halo if it’s not MCC. At least I can play as an Elite on that game.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is where some of us end our faith… I’m not angry or willing to throw hands, I’m just sad now.
> > > > > > > It’s hard to have a smile and have hope that they’re going to be added in the 10 year plan.
> > > > > > > I feel like even if they were added in later, it wouldn’t feel the same.
> > > > > > > Infinite’s launch to me feels sacred. Like a game’s launch should aim to fix this problem of a lack of faith in a game’s community, because everything is there from the get-go. A completed launch is meaningful because it shows they had it all planned and ready and that they don’t have to resort to having content needing to be added later. There is still faith that exists, that playable elites are going to be added later on in the 10 year plan, but for me… it just don’t feel right anymore to still have faith.
> > > > > > > One can only take so much…
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I feel like finite is going to be a great game for a lot of people, and I think that’s a great thing to have for Halo as a whole. That said, I still feel like it would’ve been worth listening and adding playable elites to the launch plan and not just let it be shuffled aside as a side thing that maybe they’ll add 6 years, 4 years, maybe even 2 years into the 10 year plan.
> > > > > > > At this point, 8 years later, 900 pages later, Playable Elites don’t feel like just a side thing that should be added later. I feel like for some of us its the deal-breaker. I see a lot of people saying how stupid that is but… it’s just reality. People really care about playable elites, and it’s hard to tell someone that they’re wrong for having feelings about things.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To gamble with faith is dangerous.
> > > > > > > Then again, that’s just how life is.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yeah I’m pretty much skipping the new Halo until and if the elites are added or I can’t play MCC on my Xbox one anymore
> > > > >
> > > > > Not playing an entire game because of a character model not being available seems a bit over the top. I understand people’s love for elites but if the decision to not have them in Infinite right now has been made then that’s something we just have to accept. I can almost guarantee there are reasonable statistics that show the player population for elite character models just justify the decision that was made.
> > > > > They could be added in the future but let’s worry about the future after the game releases.
> > > > >
> > > > > Not to ruin anyone’s mojo or anything but when Infinite releases the population of Halo 5 & MCC WILL drop substantially. That’s just the truth. If y’all want to wait 10-15 mins for a match be my guest.
> > > > > The game’s multiplayer is going to be free to play. There’s nothing barrier to entry with Halo Infinite.
> > > >
> > > > If this wasn’t a ten year game and elites could be talked about being added again in Halo 7 I wouldn’t care as much. But I’m not going on any more empty promises.
> > >
> > > Never was it stated that Halo Infinite would be supported for 10 years, rather that “Halo Infinite is the start of the next ten years of Halo”. That’s a big difference. Modern MMO’s are struggling to last ten years let alone a FPS arena shooter.
> >
> > Do you have a link?
>
> Give me a moment and I’ll find a link to that.
>
> I’ll edit it into this comment.

I’m can you not just DM or something?

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> > > > > > > > > Well guys it’s been fun but I’m done with Halo if it’s not MCC. At least I can play as an Elite on that game.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This is where some of us end our faith… I’m not angry or willing to throw hands, I’m just sad now.
> > > > > > > > It’s hard to have a smile and have hope that they’re going to be added in the 10 year plan.
> > > > > > > > I feel like even if they were added in later, it wouldn’t feel the same.
> > > > > > > > Infinite’s launch to me feels sacred. Like a game’s launch should aim to fix this problem of a lack of faith in a game’s community, because everything is there from the get-go. A completed launch is meaningful because it shows they had it all planned and ready and that they don’t have to resort to having content needing to be added later. There is still faith that exists, that playable elites are going to be added later on in the 10 year plan, but for me… it just don’t feel right anymore to still have faith.
> > > > > > > > One can only take so much…
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I feel like finite is going to be a great game for a lot of people, and I think that’s a great thing to have for Halo as a whole. That said, I still feel like it would’ve been worth listening and adding playable elites to the launch plan and not just let it be shuffled aside as a side thing that maybe they’ll add 6 years, 4 years, maybe even 2 years into the 10 year plan.
> > > > > > > > At this point, 8 years later, 900 pages later, Playable Elites don’t feel like just a side thing that should be added later. I feel like for some of us its the deal-breaker. I see a lot of people saying how stupid that is but… it’s just reality. People really care about playable elites, and it’s hard to tell someone that they’re wrong for having feelings about things.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To gamble with faith is dangerous.
> > > > > > > > Then again, that’s just how life is.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yeah I’m pretty much skipping the new Halo until and if the elites are added or I can’t play MCC on my Xbox one anymore
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Not playing an entire game because of a character model not being available seems a bit over the top. I understand people’s love for elites but if the decision to not have them in Infinite right now has been made then that’s something we just have to accept. I can almost guarantee there are reasonable statistics that show the player population for elite character models just justify the decision that was made.
> > > > > > They could be added in the future but let’s worry about the future after the game releases.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Not to ruin anyone’s mojo or anything but when Infinite releases the population of Halo 5 & MCC WILL drop substantially. That’s just the truth. If y’all want to wait 10-15 mins for a match be my guest.
> > > > > > The game’s multiplayer is going to be free to play. There’s nothing barrier to entry with Halo Infinite.
> > > > >
> > > > > If this wasn’t a ten year game and elites could be talked about being added again in Halo 7 I wouldn’t care as much. But I’m not going on any more empty promises.
> > > >
> > > > Never was it stated that Halo Infinite would be supported for 10 years, rather that “Halo Infinite is the start of the next ten years of Halo”. That’s a big difference. Modern MMO’s are struggling to last ten years let alone a FPS arena shooter.
> > >
> > > Do you have a link?
> >
> > Give me a moment and I’ll find a link to that.
> >
> > I’ll edit it into this comment.
>
> I’m can you not just DM or something?

HereHalo Infinite is a platform for the future and Halo stories will be told underneath the umbrella of Infinite. But Infinite isn’t specifically a live service game for that 10 year period.
Kinda of like Infinite is the root of Halo for the next 10 years but it won’t be the only game during that time.

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> > > > > > > > > > Well guys it’s been fun but I’m done with Halo if it’s not MCC. At least I can play as an Elite on that game.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This is where some of us end our faith… I’m not angry or willing to throw hands, I’m just sad now.
> > > > > > > > > It’s hard to have a smile and have hope that they’re going to be added in the 10 year plan.
> > > > > > > > > I feel like even if they were added in later, it wouldn’t feel the same.
> > > > > > > > > Infinite’s launch to me feels sacred. Like a game’s launch should aim to fix this problem of a lack of faith in a game’s community, because everything is there from the get-go. A completed launch is meaningful because it shows they had it all planned and ready and that they don’t have to resort to having content needing to be added later. There is still faith that exists, that playable elites are going to be added later on in the 10 year plan, but for me… it just don’t feel right anymore to still have faith.
> > > > > > > > > One can only take so much…
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I feel like finite is going to be a great game for a lot of people, and I think that’s a great thing to have for Halo as a whole. That said, I still feel like it would’ve been worth listening and adding playable elites to the launch plan and not just let it be shuffled aside as a side thing that maybe they’ll add 6 years, 4 years, maybe even 2 years into the 10 year plan.
> > > > > > > > > At this point, 8 years later, 900 pages later, Playable Elites don’t feel like just a side thing that should be added later. I feel like for some of us its the deal-breaker. I see a lot of people saying how stupid that is but… it’s just reality. People really care about playable elites, and it’s hard to tell someone that they’re wrong for having feelings about things.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > To gamble with faith is dangerous.
> > > > > > > > > Then again, that’s just how life is.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yeah I’m pretty much skipping the new Halo until and if the elites are added or I can’t play MCC on my Xbox one anymore
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Not playing an entire game because of a character model not being available seems a bit over the top. I understand people’s love for elites but if the decision to not have them in Infinite right now has been made then that’s something we just have to accept. I can almost guarantee there are reasonable statistics that show the player population for elite character models just justify the decision that was made.
> > > > > > > They could be added in the future but let’s worry about the future after the game releases.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Not to ruin anyone’s mojo or anything but when Infinite releases the population of Halo 5 & MCC WILL drop substantially. That’s just the truth. If y’all want to wait 10-15 mins for a match be my guest.
> > > > > > > The game’s multiplayer is going to be free to play. There’s nothing barrier to entry with Halo Infinite.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If this wasn’t a ten year game and elites could be talked about being added again in Halo 7 I wouldn’t care as much. But I’m not going on any more empty promises.
> > > > >
> > > > > Never was it stated that Halo Infinite would be supported for 10 years, rather that “Halo Infinite is the start of the next ten years of Halo”. That’s a big difference. Modern MMO’s are struggling to last ten years let alone a FPS arena shooter.
> > > >
> > > > Do you have a link?
> > >
> > > Give me a moment and I’ll find a link to that.
> > >
> > > I’ll edit it into this comment.
> >
> > I’m can you not just DM or something?
>
> HereHalo Infinite is a platform for the future and Halo stories will be told underneath the umbrella of Infinite. But Infinite isn’t specifically a live service game for that 10 year period.
> Kinda of like Infinite is the root of Halo for the next 10 years but it won’t be the only game during that time.

That is way to vague. And that is why I don’t like this and won’t get it day one.

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343 just needs to understand that we were getting along fine with them until this happened. We saw how good Halo Infinite was and majority of Halo fans were happy with 343, something that has not really ever happened before.

We got off at a rocky start with Halo 4, it was completely different than what we were used to in a Halo game, and with the new artstyle and game mechanics made a lot of people very irritated with 343, and not really play Halo 4 as much as they would play other Halo games from the Bungie era such as Halo 3 and Reach.

Then, not only did Halo 5 keep the stupid design almost nobody liked, they took away over half of our armor customization and replaced them with trashy armors and visors that only your nose, ear, forehead, can see out of! Then, they added stupid multiplayer maps and put SO much unbearable SBMM, and ruined ANY kind of relaxing game types. Then, to top it all off, they absolutely RUINED the story for Halo as a whole.

I’m not even going to go into all the hassle with MCC, that was a nightmare, and still is.

Right when 343 was starting to get some fans back, and had some cool features that people actually started to like, they dropped the news out of no where that there weren’t going to be playable elites, when we were all hoping and dreaming of playing as them for so long.

Now the hate is back 343, you just lost over half your fans that were actually beginning to like your games. I hope your happy with your little “Spartan Story” game, and I hope your happy that you let half your fans down in favor of your Spartan fans that you have been catering to ever since 2012. If you really want Halo Infinite to be a success, you HAVE to put playable elites in at least post launch. I’m tired of saying this, if you can’t get it right now, you never will.

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> > > > > > > > > > > Well guys it’s been fun but I’m done with Halo if it’s not MCC. At least I can play as an Elite on that game.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > This is where some of us end our faith… I’m not angry or willing to throw hands, I’m just sad now.
> > > > > > > > > > It’s hard to have a smile and have hope that they’re going to be added in the 10 year plan.
> > > > > > > > > > I feel like even if they were added in later, it wouldn’t feel the same.
> > > > > > > > > > Infinite’s launch to me feels sacred. Like a game’s launch should aim to fix this problem of a lack of faith in a game’s community, because everything is there from the get-go. A completed launch is meaningful because it shows they had it all planned and ready and that they don’t have to resort to having content needing to be added later. There is still faith that exists, that playable elites are going to be added later on in the 10 year plan, but for me… it just don’t feel right anymore to still have faith.
> > > > > > > > > > One can only take so much…
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I feel like finite is going to be a great game for a lot of people, and I think that’s a great thing to have for Halo as a whole. That said, I still feel like it would’ve been worth listening and adding playable elites to the launch plan and not just let it be shuffled aside as a side thing that maybe they’ll add 6 years, 4 years, maybe even 2 years into the 10 year plan.
> > > > > > > > > > At this point, 8 years later, 900 pages later, Playable Elites don’t feel like just a side thing that should be added later. I feel like for some of us its the deal-breaker. I see a lot of people saying how stupid that is but… it’s just reality. People really care about playable elites, and it’s hard to tell someone that they’re wrong for having feelings about things.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > To gamble with faith is dangerous.
> > > > > > > > > > Then again, that’s just how life is.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yeah I’m pretty much skipping the new Halo until and if the elites are added or I can’t play MCC on my Xbox one anymore
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Not playing an entire game because of a character model not being available seems a bit over the top. I understand people’s love for elites but if the decision to not have them in Infinite right now has been made then that’s something we just have to accept. I can almost guarantee there are reasonable statistics that show the player population for elite character models just justify the decision that was made.
> > > > > > > > They could be added in the future but let’s worry about the future after the game releases.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Not to ruin anyone’s mojo or anything but when Infinite releases the population of Halo 5 & MCC WILL drop substantially. That’s just the truth. If y’all want to wait 10-15 mins for a match be my guest.
> > > > > > > > The game’s multiplayer is going to be free to play. There’s nothing barrier to entry with Halo Infinite.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If this wasn’t a ten year game and elites could be talked about being added again in Halo 7 I wouldn’t care as much. But I’m not going on any more empty promises.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Never was it stated that Halo Infinite would be supported for 10 years, rather that “Halo Infinite is the start of the next ten years of Halo”. That’s a big difference. Modern MMO’s are struggling to last ten years let alone a FPS arena shooter.
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you have a link?
> > > >
> > > > Give me a moment and I’ll find a link to that.
> > > >
> > > > I’ll edit it into this comment.
> > >
> > > I’m can you not just DM or something?
> >
> > HereHalo Infinite is a platform for the future and Halo stories will be told underneath the umbrella of Infinite. But Infinite isn’t specifically a live service game for that 10 year period.
> > Kinda of like Infinite is the root of Halo for the next 10 years but it won’t be the only game during that time.
>
> That is way to vague. And that is why I don’t like this and won’t get it day one.

Yea way too vague, I’m not boycotting infinite over the release but I am disappointed and understand how this is the straw that broke the camels back for many.

You would think with a thread as large as this they could have given a more concrete direction. They could have even said “we plan on implementing elites at some point, we dont have an exact timeframe but probably between X and Y”. Simply not saying that they wont put in elites really doesn’t seem like the appropriate response on the announcement of this topic.

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Imagine the Arbiter.

I miss Thel.

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> I miss Thel.

Maybe we’ll get a DLC about him

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> Let’s face it, they’re not making Halo because their passionate about it. If they we’re many aspects of Halo would be in it. They just making it for Money.

Or maybe they’re just passionate about different things than you? I consider myself a passionate Halo fan. I started with 2 and have been with the series since. I literally could not give a -Yoink- about playable Elites. It’s a cool option for those who want it but it literally does not impact the game in any way for me. Does that make me “not a real fan” or some other such nonsense? No, it just means that I’m passionate about different aspects of the series.

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>
> Or maybe they’re just passionate about different things than you? I consider myself a passionate Halo fan. I started with 2 and have been with the series since. I literally could not give a -Yoink- about playable Elites. It’s a cool option for those who want it but it literally does not impact the game in any way for me. Does that make me “not a real fan” or some other such nonsense? No, it just means that I’m passionate about different aspects of the series.

I think they care about the game and about Halo is general, seeing that a lot of the developers are Halo fans themselves. (Plus they wouldn’t be in the game industry if they weren’t passionate about making games). I just think that playable elites was thrown onto the altar of sacrifice in order to have Halo Infinite come out on time. It was probably this or bug testing or something they deemed more important.

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>
> Or maybe they’re just passionate about different things than you? I consider myself a passionate Halo fan. I started with 2 and have been with the series since. I literally could not give a -Yoink- about playable Elites. It’s a cool option for those who want it but it literally does not impact the game in any way for me. Does that make me “not a real fan” or some other such nonsense? No, it just means that I’m passionate about different aspects of the series.

Everything that you said was a fair point, but we have not had what we were passionate about in a new halo game in over ten years. That’s why we are so angry about this.

It would be like if only elites were playable, people who play as spartans would hate that, so how is it any different for people who like to play as an elite? We aren’t being treated fairly. Just look at MCC, all the new cosmetics are only for spartans, there have been no new cosmetics for elites ever since Reach.

You have good points, but please understand how this discourages many other fans, we are worried that 343 are never going to put playable elites EVER in any other halo game. For us it does impact the game because like you said, it was a cool feature. They shouldn’t take away something that was originally a core component in all the previous halo games.

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>
> Or maybe they’re just passionate about different things than you? I consider myself a passionate Halo fan. I started with 2 and have been with the series since. I literally could not give a -Yoink- about playable Elites. It’s a cool option for those who want it but it literally does not impact the game in any way for me. Does that make me “not a real fan” or some other such nonsense? No, it just means that I’m passionate about different aspects of the series.

And like wise it may not affect you but it does me. It goes both ways. I’m just here to voice my opinion. Bungee had good habits not cutting off communities vs 343i which seems to have no problem killing an entire community. RIP sangheili community

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> >
> > I miss Thel.
>
> Maybe we’ll get a DLC about him

To be honnest, now that we know the game will have no playable elites, at least at launch, campaign probably being either Blue team, or just Master Chief clones, I kind of expect it to be just Master Chief clones to be honnest… the Arbiter is likelly not involved in this story in any form, if he gets called out, shouted out or name dropped we’re lucky I feel

An Arbiter DLC, and in the grand scheme of things, a sword of Sangheilios DLC, would be the right way to manage it to me, you get a new campaign where the main character is the Arbiter, it comes with an update that adds playable elites in casual match making forge and custom games, new maps using assets of the new campaign, elite game modes like Dino Blaster and Elite Slayer, banished elite armors you can buy in the cosmetics store, owning the DLC and beating missions gives you Sword of Sangheilios themed armor pieces, gives a reason to sell the DLC as a premium, as it’s basically a new game, but I feel like I’m day dreaming… Imagine the same for a brute DLC, ODST DLC, ONI DLC, ETC… but my faith tells me the DLCs are gonna be maps, which is good, game modes, that’s not bad either, and new cosmetics and weapon skins to buy, what Halo 5 and Call of Duty gets. Just that over 10 long years.