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> I was more thinking that they could replace the storm rifle with it
The Storm Rifle behave like a Plasma Rifle, the change wasn’t useful.
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> You see the plasma repeater as useless because you are not using it correctly. It is plasma-based, not EMP-based, like the Plasma Rifle. This means it is not meant to be used on shields, it is meant to be used on health, which it clearly excels at.
Using it correctly is harder than doing the same with an Assault Rifle, the damage output don’t compensate for the projectile speed and that’s the biggest issue, it’s hurting the Plasma Repeater enough to make attacking and winning harder than other weapons.
I had several Assault Rifle versus Magnum fights with a buddy, the Assault Rifle won more fights at medium range but seeing how close the rifle was to defeat, I doubt the Plasma Repeater can pull out a win like that.
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> > I was more thinking that they could replace the storm rifle with it
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> The Storm Rifle behave like a Plasma Rifle, the change wasn’t useful.
actually the storm rifle is more similar to the plasma repeater but the storm rifle has decreased accuracy and no manual cool-down, in that same way the plasma repeater can excel where the AR cannot, the AR does not have good accuracy while the plasma repeater does.
but most of this depends on the user.
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> actually the storm rifle is more similar to the plasma repeater but the storm rifle has decreased accuracy and no manual cool-down, in that same way the plasma repeater can excel where the AR cannot, the AR does not have good accuracy while the plasma repeater does.
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> but most of this depends on the user.
I was thinking about efficiency for the Storm Rifle, unless things changed between Halo 4 and Halo 5.
Without bottomless clip enabled, the Plasma Repeater cannot excel where the Assault Rifle itself can’t, if they have a different accuracy, it’s not noticeable and if the repeater does have the best, it’s not enough to counter the projectile speed.
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> > actually the storm rifle is more similar to the plasma repeater but the storm rifle has decreased accuracy and no manual cool-down, in that same way the plasma repeater can excel where the AR cannot, the AR does not have good accuracy while the plasma repeater does.
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> > but most of this depends on the user.
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> I was thinking about efficiency for the Storm Rifle, unless things changed between Halo 4 and Halo 5.
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> Without bottomless clip enabled, the Plasma Repeater cannot excel where the Assault Rifle itself can’t, if they have a different accuracy, it’s not noticeable and if the repeater does have the best, it’s not enough to counter the projectile speed.
if you watch the first battle, you will see the sangheili won due to superior weaponry.
and that superior weapon is the plasma repeater, that scenario shows the difference in power between an AR, and a Plasma Repeater.
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> People have been saying that it’s been confirmed that there will not be playable elites. Can anyone confirm this?
We barely have any info about H6 to begin with, so I’d say that the no playable elites thing is likely false for now. We simply lack the information about it.
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> > People have been saying that it’s been confirmed that there will not be playable elites. Can anyone confirm this?
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> We barely have any info about H6 to begin with, so I’d say that the no playable elites thing is likely false for now. We simply lack the information about it.
it would be a bad move on 343’s part to not include elites in MP
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtOgwaJ7X2w
> if you watch the first battle, you will see the sangheili won due to superior weaponry.
> and that superior weapon is the plasma repeater, that scenario shows the difference in power between an AR, and a Plasma Repeater.
I fail to see when this happen, the fight is all over the place.
- this is a legendary A.I. battle, no comparison with a player versus player battle.
yes, as I said already, it DEPENDS on the player, the plasma repeater (as I said) is better than the storm rifle, I’m not comparing it to an AR, but for some reason you are.
and I said, it was the FIRST battle, don’t you pay attention to what you read?
Jeez it’s been a very long time since I last posted. Hello again all, I just want to say thank you for furthering this discussion as much as you all have. With E3 on the way, let us cross our fingers and pray for the Elites to get the respect we’ve long demanded.
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> yes, as I said already, it DEPENDS on the player, the plasma repeater (as I said) is better than the storm rifle, I’m not comparing it to an AR, but for some reason you are.
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> and I said, it was the FIRST battle, don’t you pay attention to what you read?
I was comparing to the Assault Rifle in Halo: Reach where it’s the Covenant counterpart, Assault Rifle wins, versus the Storm Rifle it’s up to the range seeing a simple Plasma Pistol versus Assault Rifle is about range and melee.
In the intro there is multiple weapons everywhere and the first actual battle is Plasma Rifle versus Assault Rifle, like the Plasma Pistol, it’s about range.
my bad, on that point, they should add BOTH! instead of the “brute” plasma rifle, they should use the standard plasma rifle, so then the sangheili can use it in campaign!
and, when I tested the AR vs the plasma repeater with my friend, the plasma repeater won.
AND if you remember from the video the plasma repeater still won when pitted against the AR
Edit: the plasma repeater vs assault rifle battle starts at 2:10
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> my bad, on that point, they should add BOTH! instead of the “brute” plasma rifle, they should use the standard plasma rifle, so then the sangheili can use it in campaign!
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> and, when I tested the AR vs the plasma repeater with my friend, the plasma repeater won.
> AND if you remember from the video the plasma repeater still won when pitted against the AR
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> Edit: the plasma repeater vs assault rifle battle starts at 2:10
An A.I. battle isn’t a good comparison.
so now you say it matters on the player?
or do you have a more accurate way of comparison?
I never did a player versus A.I. comparison or anything like that but honestly I rarely bother with it no matter the mode, even 2X Score Attack… the gun run out of units too fast even with 200% base damage.
The Plasma Repeater and the Assault Rifle have around the same time to kill if not the same but the AR is hitscan, the repeater isn’t, that means the chances to win make a huge drop if the range increase, not like it’s super great at close range.
Really there is no pratical reason to pick up a Plasma Repeater over the Assault Rifle.
the repeater as I said has increased range, that’s why you would use it, but seriously, I am not arguing wether the AR is better, or the plasma repeater is, I am saying that it should replace the storm rifle!
also, what use is hitscan on an assault rifle?
Less wasted shots because bullets instantly go to the end, useful to annoy a target at range without trying to kill it. That’s why the Assault Rifle is better most of the time.
In campaign, it can be used to kill enemies instead of using the precision weapon.
Versus the Storm Rifle it’s like trying to do a Plasma Repeater Vs. a Plasma Rifle, up to the range as I said.
the plasma rifle is better than the storm rifle, that’s why it costs more in the req store!
I was thinking about the Halo 4 Storm Rifle, the Plasma Rifle shouldn’t have reticle bloom if it’s like other Halos.
Guys, you’re having an argument about the Plasma Repeater, lets not start sniping at each other, just agree to disagree before we start unnecessary beef please.
Though I do agree we should start talking about weapons to some extent, I think we should see more Carbine and Needler based weapons (Imagine a Needler Chaingun, could go Ramboheili with that thing :))
In fact the possibilities are endless for stuff like Energy melee weapons, more Brute stuff, San 'Shyuum weapons, Jackal Weapons (They use lasers as their native technology I read) and again, the list could go on and on and on, but in order for most Covenant stuff to be truly cool and effective, we need Elites to be playable in the first place.
Heck, I know we discuss Brutes and Promethean Soldiers being playable every now and then, but I think it should be more discussed. Maybe a slight chance at Skirmishers too? Eh, baby steps. Elites first and most importantly, quality of playability for them secondary, Brutes tertiary.