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> its harder to shoot elites in the head, thier heads are smaller
If thats the only reason we cant have elelitein multiplayer its a bad one.
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> its harder to shoot elites in the head, thier heads are smaller
Actually, their heads are bigger.
We need playable Elites, please add before the war with the convenient and UNSC , the convenient being bigger and taller, makes them easier targets. Also the convenient won’t have to use helioscroll , they can finally be their own
C’mon guys after 870 pages we need to be serious.
No one liked to play as an Elite. You think that you want, but you really don’t
Nice to see you guys are keeping this thread alive after 5 years!
E3 is getting closer so hopefully good news is on the horizon
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > I think they should bring them back in the next halo game and maybe we will get a new mode where one team is all elites and the other are spartans that would be or the elites would have less health and do less damage but there is like 3 spartans and the elites have ai grunts and jackals so basically like lone wolf but with three people and you can be a elite
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> > > > > > > > > > > > Sounds like Reach’s firefight although I do miss firefight its still not a bad idea and I know a lot of people want ai in forge so if we got firefight back imagine all the different maps and possibilites there would be if we did get ai in forge
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> > > > > > > > > > > No lol it sounds more like Invasion Slayer or just normal Invasion lol!
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> > > > > > > > > > He mentioned ai grunts so I thought of firwfight and since you could play as elites in Reach firefight I thought of that first but these requests for spartan vs elite modes bother me slightly because thats why elites were so restricted in Reach multiplayer but if we could be a spartan OR elite in modes like warzone team slayer and ffa then Id also be ok with spartannvs elite game types as well but maybe as a separate playlist
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> > > > > > > > > Um no, never again, I do not want Elites restricted to certain game modes. If they return, they either allow me to be an Elite all the time regardless of mode, or not at all. I hated the way Reach handled the Elites, not only did Bungie make them annoying to fight in the campaign with their 5x energy shields and their (shudders) side step, they could not even have the curtsy to add them as options in custom games where they could be turned on or off so you could force the game to recognize player preference, so as long as you had the Elite as a preferred species then you would always be one as long as those options were turned on. Sorry about the rant, I am just tired of being a spartan, and want to finally put my spartan to rest once 343 finally gives us Elites, and I want to choose if I ever be a spartan again, not some game mode.
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> > > > > > > > I want them in only Custom Games. I think they’ll break multiplayer competitive. Unless they do what they did in reach.
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> > > > > > > If they’re only in custom games then this whole thread would almost be for nothing sure we got them back but not to the extent we want
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yeah but I am aiming for the middle ground. Remember we can’t always get what we want. They just need to be out of competitive playlist or have Elite Specific Competitive Playlists, again like in Halo Reach.
> > > > >
> > > > > I sort of agree, in an earlier post I said we shoukd at least get them back for social and warzone playlists I dont think they would be a problem there then again I think it would kind of stupid to exclude them from competitive playlists, I just hate how people are so worried about balance these days but the elites were a “problem” in Halo 3 as well because it was harder to headshot them from behind which imo is such a minor advantage that balance really was never an issue but of course the huge changes in the elite design from reach until 5 (which honestly I like the new and old elite designs) makes it nearly impossible to include them in any form of multiplayer unless it IS spartans v elites.
> > > >
> > > > My worry wasn’t like their were in Halo 3, it’s the time needed to code them into separate playlists. It’s almost impossible to have a timely manner when deviding entities like that. Some things simple as said arn’t as easy as they are said. imagine Halo 5 right, now imagine they added a full on Halo 3 style game play. (Not throwback) That would take a measure of coding and adding that takes time and developement. Seperating elites from core modes like you stated would be in a similar situation but not on such a large skill. Being in Dev of my own projects myself I understand how hard it can be to pull the middleground off for a separated community.
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> > > Hopefully 2 years is enough for 343 then, we havent seen or heard an official announcement of halo 6 so unless 343 spent the past 2 years twiddling their thumbs we should see playable elites at launch
> >
> > Right, that has been looking promising. Halo 6 will either make or break Halo. I see Halo 6 as their final and last chance before the entire community dies. Let’s just hope this extra amount of time they’re taking is enough. And hey if not, there are some pretty awesome fan games coming out!
>
> True and Im honestly happy they’re taking more time on Halo 6 (hopefully for the right reasons) I think they’ve listened to the community and really want Halo 6 to be THE Halo game everyone will remember Id like to see it launch later this year as theres still a chance for it but if 343 takes 3 years off it could help the game but also kill it, long development cycles tend to kill off communities and although I know not all Halo fans would leave Halo behind I know for a fact 3 years might just kill Halo 6 and the hype, I havent been hyped for a Halo game since Reach but the long waiting period for 6 is getting me excited which can also cause problems because if they release 6 and it turna out not to live up to expectations it would pretty much end 343 (sorry for the rant just had a lot to say)
If it’s done right, and the game have longevity it can be pulled off, Look at the Fallout Series. If I remember correctly they have awkwardly long development times.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think they should bring them back in the next halo game and maybe we will get a new mode where one team is all elites and the other are spartans that would be or the elites would have less health and do less damage but there is like 3 spartans and the elites have ai grunts and jackals so basically like lone wolf but with three people and you can be a elite
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sounds like Reach’s firefight although I do miss firefight its still not a bad idea and I know a lot of people want ai in forge so if we got firefight back imagine all the different maps and possibilites there would be if we did get ai in forge
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> > > > > > > > > > > > No lol it sounds more like Invasion Slayer or just normal Invasion lol!
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> > > > > > > > > > > He mentioned ai grunts so I thought of firwfight and since you could play as elites in Reach firefight I thought of that first but these requests for spartan vs elite modes bother me slightly because thats why elites were so restricted in Reach multiplayer but if we could be a spartan OR elite in modes like warzone team slayer and ffa then Id also be ok with spartannvs elite game types as well but maybe as a separate playlist
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> > > > > > > > > > Um no, never again, I do not want Elites restricted to certain game modes. If they return, they either allow me to be an Elite all the time regardless of mode, or not at all. I hated the way Reach handled the Elites, not only did Bungie make them annoying to fight in the campaign with their 5x energy shields and their (shudders) side step, they could not even have the curtsy to add them as options in custom games where they could be turned on or off so you could force the game to recognize player preference, so as long as you had the Elite as a preferred species then you would always be one as long as those options were turned on. Sorry about the rant, I am just tired of being a spartan, and want to finally put my spartan to rest once 343 finally gives us Elites, and I want to choose if I ever be a spartan again, not some game mode.
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> > > > > > > > > I want them in only Custom Games. I think they’ll break multiplayer competitive. Unless they do what they did in reach.
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> > > > > > > > If they’re only in custom games then this whole thread would almost be for nothing sure we got them back but not to the extent we want
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yeah but I am aiming for the middle ground. Remember we can’t always get what we want. They just need to be out of competitive playlist or have Elite Specific Competitive Playlists, again like in Halo Reach.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I sort of agree, in an earlier post I said we shoukd at least get them back for social and warzone playlists I dont think they would be a problem there then again I think it would kind of stupid to exclude them from competitive playlists, I just hate how people are so worried about balance these days but the elites were a “problem” in Halo 3 as well because it was harder to headshot them from behind which imo is such a minor advantage that balance really was never an issue but of course the huge changes in the elite design from reach until 5 (which honestly I like the new and old elite designs) makes it nearly impossible to include them in any form of multiplayer unless it IS spartans v elites.
> > > > >
> > > > > My worry wasn’t like their were in Halo 3, it’s the time needed to code them into separate playlists. It’s almost impossible to have a timely manner when deviding entities like that. Some things simple as said arn’t as easy as they are said. imagine Halo 5 right, now imagine they added a full on Halo 3 style game play. (Not throwback) That would take a measure of coding and adding that takes time and developement. Seperating elites from core modes like you stated would be in a similar situation but not on such a large skill. Being in Dev of my own projects myself I understand how hard it can be to pull the middleground off for a separated community.
> > > >
> > > > Hopefully 2 years is enough for 343 then, we havent seen or heard an official announcement of halo 6 so unless 343 spent the past 2 years twiddling their thumbs we should see playable elites at launch
> > >
> > > Right, that has been looking promising. Halo 6 will either make or break Halo. I see Halo 6 as their final and last chance before the entire community dies. Let’s just hope this extra amount of time they’re taking is enough. And hey if not, there are some pretty awesome fan games coming out!
> >
> > True and Im honestly happy they’re taking more time on Halo 6 (hopefully for the right reasons) I think they’ve listened to the community and really want Halo 6 to be THE Halo game everyone will remember Id like to see it launch later this year as theres still a chance for it but if 343 takes 3 years off it could help the game but also kill it, long development cycles tend to kill off communities and although I know not all Halo fans would leave Halo behind I know for a fact 3 years might just kill Halo 6 and the hype, I havent been hyped for a Halo game since Reach but the long waiting period for 6 is getting me excited which can also cause problems because if they release 6 and it turna out not to live up to expectations it would pretty much end 343 (sorry for the rant just had a lot to say)
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> If it’s done right, and the game have longevity it can be pulled off, Look at the Fallout Series. If I remember correctly they have awkwardly long development times.
True, but all Im saying is people are getting impatient (at least I am) the extra year off worked for Ubisoft with Assassins Creed hooefully it’ll work for 343 and Halo
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> C’mon guys after 870 pages we need to be serious.
> No one liked to play as an Elite. You think that youwantI
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> > C’mon guys after 870 pages we need to be serious.
> > No one liked to play as an Elite. You think that you want, but you really don’t
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> If we didnt want elites back we wouldnt have been fighting for them for the past few years and make this the largest thread on the site (and yes I know you’re a troll)
From what Ive learned, the hit box for elites and spartans is actually the same. It still looks different to the eye, but apparently they are the same.
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> C’mon guys after 870 pages we need to be serious.
> No one liked to play as an Elite. You think that you want, but you really don’t
I’m afraid you’re very wrong, we all have wanted to play as Elites for a while and we all love to. So I can only assume you’re a troll, or you think it’s opposite day.
I am so surprised to see people still talking about this. This is by far one of the longest threads in the Halo forums. I think I added something maybe a long long time ago that is buried by all the posts. Elites would be nice to have back. I always preferred to play as a Spartan because they look better and are just more bad a than a space rhino, wait no that cant be right, thats Cayde talking about the Cabal not Buck talking about the Elites. Elites would be Cool and just like how Humans have a Male and Femal phenotype in Modern Halos, we could have a more “Sleeker” Phenotype that is like the Halo 3 Elites and a “Bigger” Phenotype that is like the Halo 4 and 5 elites which look amazing btw. The sleeker ones shouldn’t be so thin and stuff but a bit smaller than the bigger countertype like how the Female isnt suuuuper different despite the butt becoming really big and pronounced.
This thread is hella long :o
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> This thread is hella long :o
Indeed it is, and unless we rightfully get our elites back! It will grow longer!
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> From what Ive learned, the hit box for elites and spartans is actually the same. It still looks different to the eye, but apparently they are the same.
Bungie had confirmed this with Halo 3 they said the hitboxes were the same but the headshot area was slightly lower than spartans due to the elites hunched stance
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> I am so surprised to see people still talking about this. This is by far one of the longest threads in the Halo forums. I think I added something maybe a long long time ago that is buried by all the posts. Elites would be nice to have back. I always preferred to play as a Spartan because they look better and are just more bad a than a space rhino, wait no that cant be right, thats Cayde talking about the Cabal not Buck talking about the Elites. Elites would be Cool and just like how Humans have a Male and Femal phenotype in Modern Halos, we could have a more “Sleeker” Phenotype that is like the Halo 3 Elites and a “Bigger” Phenotype that is like the Halo 4 and 5 elites which look amazing btw. The sleeker ones shouldn’t be so thin and stuff but a bit smaller than the bigger countertype like how the Female isnt suuuuper different despite the butt becoming really big and pronounced.
The elites in 4 and 5 are a subspecies of Sangheili which is why I think it would be cool to see both Halo 3 and 4 /5 elites Halo 6 with a female model of course after all Arbiter does allow females to fight in his armies
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> > I am so surprised to see people still talking about this. This is by far one of the longest threads in the Halo forums. I think I added something maybe a long long time ago that is buried by all the posts. Elites would be nice to have back. I always preferred to play as a Spartan because they look better and are just more bad a than a space rhino, wait no that cant be right, thats Cayde talking about the Cabal not Buck talking about the Elites. Elites would be Cool and just like how Humans have a Male and Femal phenotype in Modern Halos, we could have a more “Sleeker” Phenotype that is like the Halo 3 Elites and a “Bigger” Phenotype that is like the Halo 4 and 5 elites which look amazing btw. The sleeker ones shouldn’t be so thin and stuff but a bit smaller than the bigger countertype like how the Female isnt suuuuper different despite the butt becoming really big and pronounced.
>
> The elites in 4 and 5 are a subspecies of Sangheili which is why I think it would be cool to see both Halo 3 and 4 /5 elites Halo 6 with a female model of course after all Arbiter does allow females to fight in his armies
I think it would be cool to have all of the subspecies be playable.
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> > > I am so surprised to see people still talking about this. This is by far one of the longest threads in the Halo forums. I think I added something maybe a long long time ago that is buried by all the posts. Elites would be nice to have back. I always preferred to play as a Spartan because they look better and are just more bad a than a space rhino, wait no that cant be right, thats Cayde talking about the Cabal not Buck talking about the Elites. Elites would be Cool and just like how Humans have a Male and Femal phenotype in Modern Halos, we could have a more “Sleeker” Phenotype that is like the Halo 3 Elites and a “Bigger” Phenotype that is like the Halo 4 and 5 elites which look amazing btw. The sleeker ones shouldn’t be so thin and stuff but a bit smaller than the bigger countertype like how the Female isnt suuuuper different despite the butt becoming really big and pronounced.
> >
> > The elites in 4 and 5 are a subspecies of Sangheili which is why I think it would be cool to see both Halo 3 and 4 /5 elites Halo 6 with a female model of course after all Arbiter does allow females to fight in his armies
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> I think it would be cool to have all of the subspecies be playable.
You guys are both onto something.
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> Indeed it is, and unless we rightfully get our elites back! It grow longer!
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
But seriously, this thread will grow longer (Tee hee) and remember, it shouldn’t stop even after we get Elites back, if we do, we need to ensure that they stay.
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> > Indeed it is, and unless we rightfully get our elites back! It grow longer!
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> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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> But seriously, this thread will grow longer (Tee hee) and remember, it shouldn’t stop even after we get Elites back, if we do, we need to ensure that they stay.
Had I still believed in the great journey, then I would call heresy for such an interpretation!
All jokes aside however, I do agree, we need to ensure that they come back, and stay
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think they should bring them back in the next halo game and maybe we will get a new mode where one team is all elites and the other are spartans that would be or the elites would have less health and do less damage but there is like 3 spartans and the elites have ai grunts and jackals so basically like lone wolf but with three people and you can be a elite
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sounds like Reach’s firefight although I do miss firefight its still not a bad idea and I know a lot of people want ai in forge so if we got firefight back imagine all the different maps and possibilites there would be if we did get ai in forge
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > No lol it sounds more like Invasion Slayer or just normal Invasion lol!
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> > > > > > > > > > > > He mentioned ai grunts so I thought of firwfight and since you could play as elites in Reach firefight I thought of that first but these requests for spartan vs elite modes bother me slightly because thats why elites were so restricted in Reach multiplayer but if we could be a spartan OR elite in modes like warzone team slayer and ffa then Id also be ok with spartannvs elite game types as well but maybe as a separate playlist
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> > > > > > > > > > > Um no, never again, I do not want Elites restricted to certain game modes. If they return, they either allow me to be an Elite all the time regardless of mode, or not at all. I hated the way Reach handled the Elites, not only did Bungie make them annoying to fight in the campaign with their 5x energy shields and their (shudders) side step, they could not even have the curtsy to add them as options in custom games where they could be turned on or off so you could force the game to recognize player preference, so as long as you had the Elite as a preferred species then you would always be one as long as those options were turned on. Sorry about the rant, I am just tired of being a spartan, and want to finally put my spartan to rest once 343 finally gives us Elites, and I want to choose if I ever be a spartan again, not some game mode.
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> > > > > > > > > > I want them in only Custom Games. I think they’ll break multiplayer competitive. Unless they do what they did in reach.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If they’re only in custom games then this whole thread would almost be for nothing sure we got them back but not to the extent we want
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yeah but I am aiming for the middle ground. Remember we can’t always get what we want. They just need to be out of competitive playlist or have Elite Specific Competitive Playlists, again like in Halo Reach.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I sort of agree, in an earlier post I said we shoukd at least get them back for social and warzone playlists I dont think they would be a problem there then again I think it would kind of stupid to exclude them from competitive playlists, I just hate how people are so worried about balance these days but the elites were a “problem” in Halo 3 as well because it was harder to headshot them from behind which imo is such a minor advantage that balance really was never an issue but of course the huge changes in the elite design from reach until 5 (which honestly I like the new and old elite designs) makes it nearly impossible to include them in any form of multiplayer unless it IS spartans v elites.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My worry wasn’t like their were in Halo 3, it’s the time needed to code them into separate playlists. It’s almost impossible to have a timely manner when deviding entities like that. Some things simple as said arn’t as easy as they are said. imagine Halo 5 right, now imagine they added a full on Halo 3 style game play. (Not throwback) That would take a measure of coding and adding that takes time and developement. Seperating elites from core modes like you stated would be in a similar situation but not on such a large skill. Being in Dev of my own projects myself I understand how hard it can be to pull the middleground off for a separated community.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hopefully 2 years is enough for 343 then, we havent seen or heard an official announcement of halo 6 so unless 343 spent the past 2 years twiddling their thumbs we should see playable elites at launch
> > > >
> > > > Right, that has been looking promising. Halo 6 will either make or break Halo. I see Halo 6 as their final and last chance before the entire community dies. Let’s just hope this extra amount of time they’re taking is enough. And hey if not, there are some pretty awesome fan games coming out!
> > >
> > > True and Im honestly happy they’re taking more time on Halo 6 (hopefully for the right reasons) I think they’ve listened to the community and really want Halo 6 to be THE Halo game everyone will remember Id like to see it launch later this year as theres still a chance for it but if 343 takes 3 years off it could help the game but also kill it, long development cycles tend to kill off communities and although I know not all Halo fans would leave Halo behind I know for a fact 3 years might just kill Halo 6 and the hype, I havent been hyped for a Halo game since Reach but the long waiting period for 6 is getting me excited which can also cause problems because if they release 6 and it turna out not to live up to expectations it would pretty much end 343 (sorry for the rant just had a lot to say)
> >
> > If it’s done right, and the game have longevity it can be pulled off, Look at the Fallout Series. If I remember correctly they have awkwardly long development times.
>
> True, but all Im saying is people are getting impatient (at least I am) the extra year off worked for Ubisoft with Assassins Creed hooefully it’ll work for 343 and Halo
Well one thing is for certain at least the game will be complete this time. If not then Idk what to say. There has been rumors going around there 343I has been playing with AI in the forge as well. That might be a reason too. That takes some -Yoinking!- talent to pull off for AI to recognize forge builds. Just imagine though having RAIDS done by AI’s or re-creating amazing battles with Elites! I might got my hopes up tooooooo much. But that would make my Day. I’d play Halo 6 regardless if it wasn’t fully launched if forge had that. God I would love ot have a Spartan Vs Elites Custom Games with AI’s.