Sangheili (Elites) In New Trilogy Matchmaking (Part 1)

Games Halo 5: Guardians
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> > > > > > > I think they should bring them back in the next halo game and maybe we will get a new mode where one team is all elites and the other are spartans that would be or the elites would have less health and do less damage but there is like 3 spartans and the elites have ai grunts and jackals so basically like lone wolf but with three people and you can be a elite
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sounds like Reach’s firefight although I do miss firefight its still not a bad idea and I know a lot of people want ai in forge so if we got firefight back imagine all the different maps and possibilites there would be if we did get ai in forge
> > > > >
> > > > > No lol it sounds more like Invasion Slayer or just normal Invasion lol!
> > > >
> > > > He mentioned ai grunts so I thought of firwfight and since you could play as elites in Reach firefight I thought of that first but these requests for spartan vs elite modes bother me slightly because thats why elites were so restricted in Reach multiplayer but if we could be a spartan OR elite in modes like warzone team slayer and ffa then Id also be ok with spartannvs elite game types as well but maybe as a separate playlist
> > >
> > > Um no, never again, I do not want Elites restricted to certain game modes. If they return, they either allow me to be an Elite all the time regardless of mode, or not at all. I hated the way Reach handled the Elites, not only did Bungie make them annoying to fight in the campaign with their 5x energy shields and their (shudders) side step, they could not even have the curtsy to add them as options in custom games where they could be turned on or off so you could force the game to recognize player preference, so as long as you had the Elite as a preferred species then you would always be one as long as those options were turned on. Sorry about the rant, I am just tired of being a spartan, and want to finally put my spartan to rest once 343 finally gives us Elites, and I want to choose if I ever be a spartan again, not some game mode.
> >
> > I want them in only Custom Games. I think they’ll break multiplayer competitive. Unless they do what they did in reach.
>
> If they’re only in custom games then this whole thread would almost be for nothing sure we got them back but not to the extent we want

Yeah but I am aiming for the middle ground. Remember we can’t always get what we want. They just need to be out of competitive playlist or have Elite Specific Competitive Playlists, again like in Halo Reach.

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> > > > > > > > I think they should bring them back in the next halo game and maybe we will get a new mode where one team is all elites and the other are spartans that would be or the elites would have less health and do less damage but there is like 3 spartans and the elites have ai grunts and jackals so basically like lone wolf but with three people and you can be a elite
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sounds like Reach’s firefight although I do miss firefight its still not a bad idea and I know a lot of people want ai in forge so if we got firefight back imagine all the different maps and possibilites there would be if we did get ai in forge
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No lol it sounds more like Invasion Slayer or just normal Invasion lol!
> > > > >
> > > > > He mentioned ai grunts so I thought of firwfight and since you could play as elites in Reach firefight I thought of that first but these requests for spartan vs elite modes bother me slightly because thats why elites were so restricted in Reach multiplayer but if we could be a spartan OR elite in modes like warzone team slayer and ffa then Id also be ok with spartannvs elite game types as well but maybe as a separate playlist
> > > >
> > > > Um no, never again, I do not want Elites restricted to certain game modes. If they return, they either allow me to be an Elite all the time regardless of mode, or not at all. I hated the way Reach handled the Elites, not only did Bungie make them annoying to fight in the campaign with their 5x energy shields and their (shudders) side step, they could not even have the curtsy to add them as options in custom games where they could be turned on or off so you could force the game to recognize player preference, so as long as you had the Elite as a preferred species then you would always be one as long as those options were turned on. Sorry about the rant, I am just tired of being a spartan, and want to finally put my spartan to rest once 343 finally gives us Elites, and I want to choose if I ever be a spartan again, not some game mode.
> > >
> > > I want them in only Custom Games. I think they’ll break multiplayer competitive. Unless they do what they did in reach.
> >
> > If they’re only in custom games then this whole thread would almost be for nothing sure we got them back but not to the extent we want
>
> Yeah but I am aiming for the middle ground. Remember we can’t always get what we want. They just need to be out of competitive playlist or have Elite Specific Competitive Playlists, again like in Halo Reach.

I sort of agree, in an earlier post I said we shoukd at least get them back for social and warzone playlists I dont think they would be a problem there then again I think it would kind of stupid to exclude them from competitive playlists, I just hate how people are so worried about balance these days but the elites were a “problem” in Halo 3 as well because it was harder to headshot them from behind which imo is such a minor advantage that balance really was never an issue but of course the huge changes in the elite design from reach until 5 (which honestly I like the new and old elite designs) makes it nearly impossible to include them in any form of multiplayer unless it IS spartans v elites.

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> > > > > > > > > I think they should bring them back in the next halo game and maybe we will get a new mode where one team is all elites and the other are spartans that would be or the elites would have less health and do less damage but there is like 3 spartans and the elites have ai grunts and jackals so basically like lone wolf but with three people and you can be a elite
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sounds like Reach’s firefight although I do miss firefight its still not a bad idea and I know a lot of people want ai in forge so if we got firefight back imagine all the different maps and possibilites there would be if we did get ai in forge
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No lol it sounds more like Invasion Slayer or just normal Invasion lol!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > He mentioned ai grunts so I thought of firwfight and since you could play as elites in Reach firefight I thought of that first but these requests for spartan vs elite modes bother me slightly because thats why elites were so restricted in Reach multiplayer but if we could be a spartan OR elite in modes like warzone team slayer and ffa then Id also be ok with spartannvs elite game types as well but maybe as a separate playlist
> > > > >
> > > > > Um no, never again, I do not want Elites restricted to certain game modes. If they return, they either allow me to be an Elite all the time regardless of mode, or not at all. I hated the way Reach handled the Elites, not only did Bungie make them annoying to fight in the campaign with their 5x energy shields and their (shudders) side step, they could not even have the curtsy to add them as options in custom games where they could be turned on or off so you could force the game to recognize player preference, so as long as you had the Elite as a preferred species then you would always be one as long as those options were turned on. Sorry about the rant, I am just tired of being a spartan, and want to finally put my spartan to rest once 343 finally gives us Elites, and I want to choose if I ever be a spartan again, not some game mode.
> > > >
> > > > I want them in only Custom Games. I think they’ll break multiplayer competitive. Unless they do what they did in reach.
> > >
> > > If they’re only in custom games then this whole thread would almost be for nothing sure we got them back but not to the extent we want
> >
> > Yeah but I am aiming for the middle ground. Remember we can’t always get what we want. They just need to be out of competitive playlist or have Elite Specific Competitive Playlists, again like in Halo Reach.
>
> I sort of agree, in an earlier post I said we shoukd at least get them back for social and warzone playlists I dont think they would be a problem there then again I think it would kind of stupid to exclude them from competitive playlists, I just hate how people are so worried about balance these days but the elites were a “problem” in Halo 3 as well because it was harder to headshot them from behind which imo is such a minor advantage that balance really was never an issue but of course the huge changes in the elite design from reach until 5 (which honestly I like the new and old elite designs) makes it nearly impossible to include them in any form of multiplayer unless it IS spartans v elites.

I prefer Reach’s system to be honest, I dislike how H2 and H3 Spawn Elites with Human weapons, and in all honesty, they would break competitive playlists, we just need Elites in more gamemodes, basically, it can work like H3 (especially in Slayer, BTB, Infection, The Warzones, Action Sack, all the social stuff and WZ basically, unless the people in the lobby vote for a match exclusive to either Humans or Elites, but always allow the a mixed choice) and for the competitive peeps Elites don’t show up, because I imagine if they do, the Competitive whiners will complain and eventually win over 343 and just take Elites out of games again in future, which I really don’t want.

Also, on the subject of other species, I think Brutes are also a neccessary addition to multiplayer, they basically would run on Halo Reach’s Brute animations, but work like H3 brutes so they balance, like H4 and 5 run on Reach’s, but as enemies in campaign, probably work like H2 brutes. Possibly 'methean soldiers could also be around. Alas, in custom games only, we can get ALL species (plus UNSC Soldiers and stuff) but this would have to be in games in the later future, not right away.

Right now, in an ideal world, we’d have playable Elites, Brutes and maybe Soldiers with a good, diverse, and ranged representation of armour, stances, visors, assassinations, weapons, vehicles and others.

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> Been watching this thread since it first popped up those years ago, glad to finally say hello. I completely support the return of our sangheili to multiplayer. Would prefer us not being restricted to specific game modes like back in reach if possible.

Well, welcome to the Godly Thread :slight_smile:

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I read this article years ago on an video game article and yet here it is again.

Re-Looking at this again makes me re-think why I used the Elites back in the day. #theGameHadChanged #EliteUser

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Fun question for everyone. Halo 6 trailer comes out, how would you reveal the sangheili being playable again for the game?

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> > > > > > > > > > I think they should bring them back in the next halo game and maybe we will get a new mode where one team is all elites and the other are spartans that would be or the elites would have less health and do less damage but there is like 3 spartans and the elites have ai grunts and jackals so basically like lone wolf but with three people and you can be a elite
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Sounds like Reach’s firefight although I do miss firefight its still not a bad idea and I know a lot of people want ai in forge so if we got firefight back imagine all the different maps and possibilites there would be if we did get ai in forge
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > No lol it sounds more like Invasion Slayer or just normal Invasion lol!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > He mentioned ai grunts so I thought of firwfight and since you could play as elites in Reach firefight I thought of that first but these requests for spartan vs elite modes bother me slightly because thats why elites were so restricted in Reach multiplayer but if we could be a spartan OR elite in modes like warzone team slayer and ffa then Id also be ok with spartannvs elite game types as well but maybe as a separate playlist
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Um no, never again, I do not want Elites restricted to certain game modes. If they return, they either allow me to be an Elite all the time regardless of mode, or not at all. I hated the way Reach handled the Elites, not only did Bungie make them annoying to fight in the campaign with their 5x energy shields and their (shudders) side step, they could not even have the curtsy to add them as options in custom games where they could be turned on or off so you could force the game to recognize player preference, so as long as you had the Elite as a preferred species then you would always be one as long as those options were turned on. Sorry about the rant, I am just tired of being a spartan, and want to finally put my spartan to rest once 343 finally gives us Elites, and I want to choose if I ever be a spartan again, not some game mode.
> > > > >
> > > > > I want them in only Custom Games. I think they’ll break multiplayer competitive. Unless they do what they did in reach.
> > > >
> > > > If they’re only in custom games then this whole thread would almost be for nothing sure we got them back but not to the extent we want
> > >
> > > Yeah but I am aiming for the middle ground. Remember we can’t always get what we want. They just need to be out of competitive playlist or have Elite Specific Competitive Playlists, again like in Halo Reach.
> >
> > I sort of agree, in an earlier post I said we shoukd at least get them back for social and warzone playlists I dont think they would be a problem there then again I think it would kind of stupid to exclude them from competitive playlists, I just hate how people are so worried about balance these days but the elites were a “problem” in Halo 3 as well because it was harder to headshot them from behind which imo is such a minor advantage that balance really was never an issue but of course the huge changes in the elite design from reach until 5 (which honestly I like the new and old elite designs) makes it nearly impossible to include them in any form of multiplayer unless it IS spartans v elites.
>
> I prefer Reach’s system to be honest, I dislike how H2 and H3 Spawn Elites with Human weapons, and in all honesty, they would break competitive playlists, we just need Elites in more gamemodes, basically, it can work like H3 (especially in Slayer, BTB, Infection, The Warzones, Action Sack, all the social stuff and WZ basically, unless the people in the lobby vote for a match exclusive to either Humans or Elites, but always allow the a mixed choice) and for the competitive peeps Elites don’t show up, because I imagine if they do, the Competitive whiners will complain and eventually win over 343 and just take Elites out of games again in future, which I really don’t want.
>
> Also, on the subject of other species, I think Brutes are also a neccessary addition to multiplayer, they basically would run on Halo Reach’s Brute animations, but work like H3 brutes so they balance, like H4 and 5 run on Reach’s, but as enemies in campaign, probably work like H2 brutes. Possibly 'methean soldiers could also be around. Alas, in custom games only, we can get ALL species (plus UNSC Soldiers and stuff) but this would have to be in games in the later future, not right away.
>
> Right now, in an ideal world, we’d have playable Elites, Brutes and maybe Soldiers with a good, diverse, and ranged representation of armour, stances, visors, assassinations, weapons, vehicles and others.

Definitely a good idea for brutes and promethean soldies, hitboxes would be close to spartans so it could work but I know anlot of people are asking for ai in forge as well wjoch would be mind blowing creating enties custom campaigns like it DOOM but back to elites I think you’re right about competitive whiners and id be ok with elites just being in social and warzone (which I know I say a lot) and we really need elites back and near classic gameplay as well Halo 5 felt lime a weird COD spinoff

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> > > > > > > > > I think they should bring them back in the next halo game and maybe we will get a new mode where one team is all elites and the other are spartans that would be or the elites would have less health and do less damage but there is like 3 spartans and the elites have ai grunts and jackals so basically like lone wolf but with three people and you can be a elite
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sounds like Reach’s firefight although I do miss firefight its still not a bad idea and I know a lot of people want ai in forge so if we got firefight back imagine all the different maps and possibilites there would be if we did get ai in forge
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No lol it sounds more like Invasion Slayer or just normal Invasion lol!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > He mentioned ai grunts so I thought of firwfight and since you could play as elites in Reach firefight I thought of that first but these requests for spartan vs elite modes bother me slightly because thats why elites were so restricted in Reach multiplayer but if we could be a spartan OR elite in modes like warzone team slayer and ffa then Id also be ok with spartannvs elite game types as well but maybe as a separate playlist
> > > > >
> > > > > Um no, never again, I do not want Elites restricted to certain game modes. If they return, they either allow me to be an Elite all the time regardless of mode, or not at all. I hated the way Reach handled the Elites, not only did Bungie make them annoying to fight in the campaign with their 5x energy shields and their (shudders) side step, they could not even have the curtsy to add them as options in custom games where they could be turned on or off so you could force the game to recognize player preference, so as long as you had the Elite as a preferred species then you would always be one as long as those options were turned on. Sorry about the rant, I am just tired of being a spartan, and want to finally put my spartan to rest once 343 finally gives us Elites, and I want to choose if I ever be a spartan again, not some game mode.
> > > >
> > > > I want them in only Custom Games. I think they’ll break multiplayer competitive. Unless they do what they did in reach.
> > >
> > > If they’re only in custom games then this whole thread would almost be for nothing sure we got them back but not to the extent we want
> >
> > Yeah but I am aiming for the middle ground. Remember we can’t always get what we want. They just need to be out of competitive playlist or have Elite Specific Competitive Playlists, again like in Halo Reach.
>
> I sort of agree, in an earlier post I said we shoukd at least get them back for social and warzone playlists I dont think they would be a problem there then again I think it would kind of stupid to exclude them from competitive playlists, I just hate how people are so worried about balance these days but the elites were a “problem” in Halo 3 as well because it was harder to headshot them from behind which imo is such a minor advantage that balance really was never an issue but of course the huge changes in the elite design from reach until 5 (which honestly I like the new and old elite designs) makes it nearly impossible to include them in any form of multiplayer unless it IS spartans v elites.

My worry wasn’t like their were in Halo 3, it’s the time needed to code them into separate playlists. It’s almost impossible to have a timely manner when deviding entities like that. Some things simple as said arn’t as easy as they are said. imagine Halo 5 right, now imagine they added a full on Halo 3 style game play. (Not throwback) That would take a measure of coding and adding that takes time and developement. Seperating elites from core modes like you stated would be in a similar situation but not on such a large skill. Being in Dev of my own projects myself I understand how hard it can be to pull the middleground off for a separated community.

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> > > > > > > > > > I think they should bring them back in the next halo game and maybe we will get a new mode where one team is all elites and the other are spartans that would be or the elites would have less health and do less damage but there is like 3 spartans and the elites have ai grunts and jackals so basically like lone wolf but with three people and you can be a elite
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Sounds like Reach’s firefight although I do miss firefight its still not a bad idea and I know a lot of people want ai in forge so if we got firefight back imagine all the different maps and possibilites there would be if we did get ai in forge
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > No lol it sounds more like Invasion Slayer or just normal Invasion lol!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > He mentioned ai grunts so I thought of firwfight and since you could play as elites in Reach firefight I thought of that first but these requests for spartan vs elite modes bother me slightly because thats why elites were so restricted in Reach multiplayer but if we could be a spartan OR elite in modes like warzone team slayer and ffa then Id also be ok with spartannvs elite game types as well but maybe as a separate playlist
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Um no, never again, I do not want Elites restricted to certain game modes. If they return, they either allow me to be an Elite all the time regardless of mode, or not at all. I hated the way Reach handled the Elites, not only did Bungie make them annoying to fight in the campaign with their 5x energy shields and their (shudders) side step, they could not even have the curtsy to add them as options in custom games where they could be turned on or off so you could force the game to recognize player preference, so as long as you had the Elite as a preferred species then you would always be one as long as those options were turned on. Sorry about the rant, I am just tired of being a spartan, and want to finally put my spartan to rest once 343 finally gives us Elites, and I want to choose if I ever be a spartan again, not some game mode.
> > > > >
> > > > > I want them in only Custom Games. I think they’ll break multiplayer competitive. Unless they do what they did in reach.
> > > >
> > > > If they’re only in custom games then this whole thread would almost be for nothing sure we got them back but not to the extent we want
> > >
> > > Yeah but I am aiming for the middle ground. Remember we can’t always get what we want. They just need to be out of competitive playlist or have Elite Specific Competitive Playlists, again like in Halo Reach.
> >
> > I sort of agree, in an earlier post I said we shoukd at least get them back for social and warzone playlists I dont think they would be a problem there then again I think it would kind of stupid to exclude them from competitive playlists, I just hate how people are so worried about balance these days but the elites were a “problem” in Halo 3 as well because it was harder to headshot them from behind which imo is such a minor advantage that balance really was never an issue but of course the huge changes in the elite design from reach until 5 (which honestly I like the new and old elite designs) makes it nearly impossible to include them in any form of multiplayer unless it IS spartans v elites.
>
> My worry wasn’t like their were in Halo 3, it’s the time needed to code them into separate playlists. It’s almost impossible to have a timely manner when deviding entities like that. Some things simple as said arn’t as easy as they are said. imagine Halo 5 right, now imagine they added a full on Halo 3 style game play. (Not throwback) That would take a measure of coding and adding that takes time and developement. Seperating elites from core modes like you stated would be in a similar situation but not on such a large skill. Being in Dev of my own projects myself I understand how hard it can be to pull the middleground off for a separated community.

Hopefully 2 years is enough for 343 then, we havent seen or heard an official announcement of halo 6 so unless 343 spent the past 2 years twiddling their thumbs we should see playable elites at launch

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> > > > > > > > > > > I think they should bring them back in the next halo game and maybe we will get a new mode where one team is all elites and the other are spartans that would be or the elites would have less health and do less damage but there is like 3 spartans and the elites have ai grunts and jackals so basically like lone wolf but with three people and you can be a elite
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Sounds like Reach’s firefight although I do miss firefight its still not a bad idea and I know a lot of people want ai in forge so if we got firefight back imagine all the different maps and possibilites there would be if we did get ai in forge
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > No lol it sounds more like Invasion Slayer or just normal Invasion lol!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > He mentioned ai grunts so I thought of firwfight and since you could play as elites in Reach firefight I thought of that first but these requests for spartan vs elite modes bother me slightly because thats why elites were so restricted in Reach multiplayer but if we could be a spartan OR elite in modes like warzone team slayer and ffa then Id also be ok with spartannvs elite game types as well but maybe as a separate playlist
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Um no, never again, I do not want Elites restricted to certain game modes. If they return, they either allow me to be an Elite all the time regardless of mode, or not at all. I hated the way Reach handled the Elites, not only did Bungie make them annoying to fight in the campaign with their 5x energy shields and their (shudders) side step, they could not even have the curtsy to add them as options in custom games where they could be turned on or off so you could force the game to recognize player preference, so as long as you had the Elite as a preferred species then you would always be one as long as those options were turned on. Sorry about the rant, I am just tired of being a spartan, and want to finally put my spartan to rest once 343 finally gives us Elites, and I want to choose if I ever be a spartan again, not some game mode.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I want them in only Custom Games. I think they’ll break multiplayer competitive. Unless they do what they did in reach.
> > > > >
> > > > > If they’re only in custom games then this whole thread would almost be for nothing sure we got them back but not to the extent we want
> > > >
> > > > Yeah but I am aiming for the middle ground. Remember we can’t always get what we want. They just need to be out of competitive playlist or have Elite Specific Competitive Playlists, again like in Halo Reach.
> > >
> > > I sort of agree, in an earlier post I said we shoukd at least get them back for social and warzone playlists I dont think they would be a problem there then again I think it would kind of stupid to exclude them from competitive playlists, I just hate how people are so worried about balance these days but the elites were a “problem” in Halo 3 as well because it was harder to headshot them from behind which imo is such a minor advantage that balance really was never an issue but of course the huge changes in the elite design from reach until 5 (which honestly I like the new and old elite designs) makes it nearly impossible to include them in any form of multiplayer unless it IS spartans v elites.
> >
> > My worry wasn’t like their were in Halo 3, it’s the time needed to code them into separate playlists. It’s almost impossible to have a timely manner when deviding entities like that. Some things simple as said arn’t as easy as they are said. imagine Halo 5 right, now imagine they added a full on Halo 3 style game play. (Not throwback) That would take a measure of coding and adding that takes time and developement. Seperating elites from core modes like you stated would be in a similar situation but not on such a large skill. Being in Dev of my own projects myself I understand how hard it can be to pull the middleground off for a separated community.
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> Hopefully 2 years is enough for 343 then, we havent seen or heard an official announcement of halo 6 so unless 343 spent the past 2 years twiddling their thumbs we should see playable elites at launch

Right, that has been looking promising. Halo 6 will either make or break Halo. I see Halo 6 as their final and last chance before the entire community dies. Let’s just hope this extra amount of time they’re taking is enough. And hey if not, there are some pretty awesome fan games coming out!

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> > > > > > > > > > > > I think they should bring them back in the next halo game and maybe we will get a new mode where one team is all elites and the other are spartans that would be or the elites would have less health and do less damage but there is like 3 spartans and the elites have ai grunts and jackals so basically like lone wolf but with three people and you can be a elite
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> > > > > > > > > > > Sounds like Reach’s firefight although I do miss firefight its still not a bad idea and I know a lot of people want ai in forge so if we got firefight back imagine all the different maps and possibilites there would be if we did get ai in forge
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> > > > > > > > > > No lol it sounds more like Invasion Slayer or just normal Invasion lol!
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> > > > > > > > > He mentioned ai grunts so I thought of firwfight and since you could play as elites in Reach firefight I thought of that first but these requests for spartan vs elite modes bother me slightly because thats why elites were so restricted in Reach multiplayer but if we could be a spartan OR elite in modes like warzone team slayer and ffa then Id also be ok with spartannvs elite game types as well but maybe as a separate playlist
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> > > > > > > > Um no, never again, I do not want Elites restricted to certain game modes. If they return, they either allow me to be an Elite all the time regardless of mode, or not at all. I hated the way Reach handled the Elites, not only did Bungie make them annoying to fight in the campaign with their 5x energy shields and their (shudders) side step, they could not even have the curtsy to add them as options in custom games where they could be turned on or off so you could force the game to recognize player preference, so as long as you had the Elite as a preferred species then you would always be one as long as those options were turned on. Sorry about the rant, I am just tired of being a spartan, and want to finally put my spartan to rest once 343 finally gives us Elites, and I want to choose if I ever be a spartan again, not some game mode.
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> > > > > > > I want them in only Custom Games. I think they’ll break multiplayer competitive. Unless they do what they did in reach.
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> > > > > > If they’re only in custom games then this whole thread would almost be for nothing sure we got them back but not to the extent we want
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeah but I am aiming for the middle ground. Remember we can’t always get what we want. They just need to be out of competitive playlist or have Elite Specific Competitive Playlists, again like in Halo Reach.
> > > >
> > > > I sort of agree, in an earlier post I said we shoukd at least get them back for social and warzone playlists I dont think they would be a problem there then again I think it would kind of stupid to exclude them from competitive playlists, I just hate how people are so worried about balance these days but the elites were a “problem” in Halo 3 as well because it was harder to headshot them from behind which imo is such a minor advantage that balance really was never an issue but of course the huge changes in the elite design from reach until 5 (which honestly I like the new and old elite designs) makes it nearly impossible to include them in any form of multiplayer unless it IS spartans v elites.
> > >
> > > My worry wasn’t like their were in Halo 3, it’s the time needed to code them into separate playlists. It’s almost impossible to have a timely manner when deviding entities like that. Some things simple as said arn’t as easy as they are said. imagine Halo 5 right, now imagine they added a full on Halo 3 style game play. (Not throwback) That would take a measure of coding and adding that takes time and developement. Seperating elites from core modes like you stated would be in a similar situation but not on such a large skill. Being in Dev of my own projects myself I understand how hard it can be to pull the middleground off for a separated community.
> >
> > Hopefully 2 years is enough for 343 then, we havent seen or heard an official announcement of halo 6 so unless 343 spent the past 2 years twiddling their thumbs we should see playable elites at launch
>
> Right, that has been looking promising. Halo 6 will either make or break Halo. I see Halo 6 as their final and last chance before the entire community dies. Let’s just hope this extra amount of time they’re taking is enough. And hey if not, there are some pretty awesome fan games coming out!

True and Im honestly happy they’re taking more time on Halo 6 (hopefully for the right reasons) I think they’ve listened to the community and really want Halo 6 to be THE Halo game everyone will remember Id like to see it launch later this year as theres still a chance for it but if 343 takes 3 years off it could help the game but also kill it, long development cycles tend to kill off communities and although I know not all Halo fans would leave Halo behind I know for a fact 3 years might just kill Halo 6 and the hype, I havent been hyped for a Halo game since Reach but the long waiting period for 6 is getting me excited which can also cause problems because if they release 6 and it turna out not to live up to expectations it would pretty much end 343 (sorry for the rant just had a lot to say)

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> Fun question for everyone. Halo 6 trailer comes out, how would you reveal the sangheili being playable again for the game?

I can’t say for sure right now, but for whatever reason, I imagine 343 trying to advertise it as “Now with playable elites!” Obviously not with those clichè words, but essentially trying to make it seem to new player like as if the playable elites were 343’s idea all long, and a “new,” thing that “they came up with.”

Or they’ll pull an MCC-upgrade-thingy, where they’ll talk about listening to the fans and how they want to deliver a good experience as fast as possible - glossing over the years that we have waited.

That being said, I hope to be disproven, despite my soured outlook on the future of Halo, I wouldn’t be here, unless I thought that there’s yet hope. So I hope that 343 will be honest in the trailer and say “Now, after all these years,” and maybe even spin it and say, “Long have we/they watched us in the shadows - but now the time of reckoning… is nigh.” And then have elites come from the shadows and show some assassinations and -god forbid they include the Spartan abilities- show off their versions of the Spartan abilities, which I imagine to work the same as the Spartans.

And the trailer ends with “There was no great journey - we make our journey.” Perhaps a bit overdramatic, and more akin to a campaign teaser, but hey, it’s what I could think off the top of my head.

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> > Fun question for everyone. Halo 6 trailer comes out, how would you reveal the sangheili being playable again for the game?
>
> I can’t say for sure right now, but for whatever reason, I imagine 343 trying to advertise it as “Now with playable elites!” Obviously not with those clichè words, but essentially trying to make it seem to new player like as if the playable elites were 343’s idea all long, and a “new,” thing that “they came up with.”
>
> Or they’ll pull an MCC-upgrade-thingy, where they’ll talk about listening to the fans and how they want to deliver a good experience as fast as possible - glossing over the years that we have waited.
>
> That being said, I hope to be disproven, despite my soured outlook on the future of Halo, I wouldn’t be here, unless I thought that there’s yet hope. So I hope that 343 will be honest in the trailer and say “Now, after all these years,” and maybe even spin it and say, “Long have we/they watched us in the shadows - but now the time of reckoning… is nigh.” And then have elites come from the shadows and show some assassinations and -god forbid they include the Spartan abilities- show off their versions of the Spartan abilities, which I imagine to work the same as the Spartans.
>
> And the trailer ends with “There was no great journey - we make our journey.” Perhaps a bit overdramatic, and more akin to a campaign teaser, but hey, it’s what I could think off the top of my head.

Hey that’s a good one, have Thel narrate it all or someone else, maybe even Rtas 'Vadum, but either way, it would be awesome, possibly even an Optimus Prime style charge through Spartans or Storm Elites, Brutes or Prometheans using Prophet’s Bane, I know I’d like to see that (Transformers being my favourite franchise of all time)

I think I had pitched some sort of idea for their return sometime, but of course, I’d need to look through pages and pages and pages for that.

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> > Fun question for everyone. Halo 6 trailer comes out, how would you reveal the sangheili being playable again for the game?
>
> I can’t say for sure right now, but for whatever reason, I imagine 343 trying to advertise it as “Now with playable elites!” Obviously not with those clichè words, but essentially trying to make it seem to new player like as if the playable elites were 343’s idea all long, and a “new,” thing that “they came up with.”
>
> Or they’ll pull an MCC-upgrade-thingy, where they’ll talk about listening to the fans and how they want to deliver a good experience as fast as possible - glossing over the years that we have waited.
>
> That being said, I hope to be disproven, despite my soured outlook on the future of Halo, I wouldn’t be here, unless I thought that there’s yet hope. So I hope that 343 will be honest in the trailer and say “Now, after all these years,” and maybe even spin it and say, “Long have we/they watched us in the shadows - but now the time of reckoning… is nigh.” And then have elites come from the shadows and show some assassinations and -god forbid they include the Spartan abilities- show off their versions of the Spartan abilities, which I imagine to work the same as the Spartans.
>
> And the trailer ends with “There was no great journey - we make our journey.” Perhaps a bit overdramatic, and more akin to a campaign teaser, but hey, it’s what I could think off the top of my head.

I agree with everything but I hope they remove spartan abiloties its too COD

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> > Fun question for everyone. Halo 6 trailer comes out, how would you reveal the sangheili being playable again for the game?
>
> I can’t say for sure right now, but for whatever reason, I imagine 343 trying to advertise it as “Now with playable elites!” Obviously not with those clichè words, but essentially trying to make it seem to new player like as if the playable elites were 343’s idea all long, and a “new,” thing that “they came up with.”
>
> Or they’ll pull an MCC-upgrade-thingy, where they’ll talk about listening to the fans and how they want to deliver a good experience as fast as possible - glossing over the years that we have waited.
>
> That being said, I hope to be disproven, despite my soured outlook on the future of Halo, I wouldn’t be here, unless I thought that there’s yet hope. So I hope that 343 will be honest in the trailer and say “Now, after all these years,” and maybe even spin it and say, “Long have we/they watched us in the shadows - but now the time of reckoning… is nigh.” And then have elites come from the shadows and show some assassinations and -god forbid they include the Spartan abilities- show off their versions of the Spartan abilities, which I imagine to work the same as the Spartans.
>
> And the trailer ends with “There was no great journey - we make our journey.” Perhaps a bit overdramatic, and more akin to a campaign teaser, but hey, it’s what I could think off the top of my head.

This would be pretty awesome especially if was also bundled with a classic invasion reveal

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> > > Fun question for everyone. Halo 6 trailer comes out, how would you reveal the sangheili being playable again for the game?
> >
> > I can’t say for sure right now, but for whatever reason, I imagine 343 trying to advertise it as “Now with playable elites!” Obviously not with those clichè words, but essentially trying to make it seem to new player like as if the playable elites were 343’s idea all long, and a “new,” thing that “they came up with.”
> >
> > Or they’ll pull an MCC-upgrade-thingy, where they’ll talk about listening to the fans and how they want to deliver a good experience as fast as possible - glossing over the years that we have waited.
> >
> > That being said, I hope to be disproven, despite my soured outlook on the future of Halo, I wouldn’t be here, unless I thought that there’s yet hope. So I hope that 343 will be honest in the trailer and say “Now, after all these years,” and maybe even spin it and say, “Long have we/they watched us in the shadows - but now the time of reckoning… is nigh.” And then have elites come from the shadows and show some assassinations and -god forbid they include the Spartan abilities- show off their versions of the Spartan abilities, which I imagine to work the same as the Spartans.
> >
> > And the trailer ends with “There was no great journey - we make our journey.” Perhaps a bit overdramatic, and more akin to a campaign teaser, but hey, it’s what I could think off the top of my head.
>
> This would be pretty awesome especially if was also bundled with a classic invasion reveal

Perhaps something like this?: Halo 5: Guardians - Swords of Sangheilios Trailer - YouTube

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> Fun question for everyone. Halo 6 trailer comes out, how would you reveal the sangheili being playable again for the game?

Have you seen the Installation 01 trailer? Cause that is a good example

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> Have you seen the Installation 01 trailer? Cause that is a good example

Was what actually made me ask the question in the first place

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> > > > Fun question for everyone. Halo 6 trailer comes out, how would you reveal the sangheili being playable again for the game?
> > >
> > > I can’t say for sure right now, but for whatever reason, I imagine 343 trying to advertise it as “Now with playable elites!” Obviously not with those clichè words, but essentially trying to make it seem to new player like as if the playable elites were 343’s idea all long, and a “new,” thing that “they came up with.”
> > >
> > > Or they’ll pull an MCC-upgrade-thingy, where they’ll talk about listening to the fans and how they want to deliver a good experience as fast as possible - glossing over the years that we have waited.
> > >
> > > That being said, I hope to be disproven, despite my soured outlook on the future of Halo, I wouldn’t be here, unless I thought that there’s yet hope. So I hope that 343 will be honest in the trailer and say “Now, after all these years,” and maybe even spin it and say, “Long have we/they watched us in the shadows - but now the time of reckoning… is nigh.” And then have elites come from the shadows and show some assassinations and -god forbid they include the Spartan abilities- show off their versions of the Spartan abilities, which I imagine to work the same as the Spartans.
> > >
> > > And the trailer ends with “There was no great journey - we make our journey.” Perhaps a bit overdramatic, and more akin to a campaign teaser, but hey, it’s what I could think off the top of my head.
> >
> > This would be pretty awesome especially if was also bundled with a classic invasion reveal
>
> Perhaps something like this?: Halo 5: Guardians - Swords of Sangheilios Trailer - YouTube

Exactly, perhaps without the flying wraith though lol

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> > > > > Fun question for everyone. Halo 6 trailer comes out, how would you reveal the sangheili being playable again for the game?
> > > >
> > > > I can’t say for sure right now, but for whatever reason, I imagine 343 trying to advertise it as “Now with playable elites!” Obviously not with those clichè words, but essentially trying to make it seem to new player like as if the playable elites were 343’s idea all long, and a “new,” thing that “they came up with.”
> > > >
> > > > Or they’ll pull an MCC-upgrade-thingy, where they’ll talk about listening to the fans and how they want to deliver a good experience as fast as possible - glossing over the years that we have waited.
> > > >
> > > > That being said, I hope to be disproven, despite my soured outlook on the future of Halo, I wouldn’t be here, unless I thought that there’s yet hope. So I hope that 343 will be honest in the trailer and say “Now, after all these years,” and maybe even spin it and say, “Long have we/they watched us in the shadows - but now the time of reckoning… is nigh.” And then have elites come from the shadows and show some assassinations and -god forbid they include the Spartan abilities- show off their versions of the Spartan abilities, which I imagine to work the same as the Spartans.
> > > >
> > > > And the trailer ends with “There was no great journey - we make our journey.” Perhaps a bit overdramatic, and more akin to a campaign teaser, but hey, it’s what I could think off the top of my head.
> > >
> > > This would be pretty awesome especially if was also bundled with a classic invasion reveal
> >
> > Perhaps something like this?: Halo 5: Guardians - Swords of Sangheilios Trailer - YouTube
>
> Exactly, perhaps without the flying wraith though lol

Nah mate, it would be glorious!