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> I took a look at Halo MCC menus and some other stuff, like the preview image for game modes like BTB in find a match.
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> I’m of the opinion that 343 very much wants us to forget that playable Elites were ever in Halo.
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> - All preview images for Find a Match do not include Elites, even when it’s specific to Halo 3 or Halo 2. - Infection is worded so that you would not assume there to be playable Elites for that mode. - Change voice for Halo 3 (M-F) only says “Spartan” when I’m pretty sure it affects Elites tooMaybe I’m just reading into this too much, but I don’t think 343 has any intention of ever adding Elites again
Then I guess they have no intention to get my money lol
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> > > > Don’t just give us elites! Do what epic did with gears of war 3, there was a game mode called Beast mode where you can play as any monsters in the game. All the animations and tuning should of been done for these characters why cant we play as our enemies?
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> It seems like dreaming is all we CAN do now since 343 ignored us for the past two games
Lets hope that Microsoft heard our out cries and sat down with the head of 343 for a chat. Cuz you cant put 3 -Yoink- halo games in a row. ok not 3 -Yoink- games but games that divided the community
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> Yeah, the rotating reticle was what I was talking about. The Plasma Repeater and a few other weapons could use it. It was a lot like the aiming reticle for the Saber fighters.
Any non-hitscan weapon I guess, for the Saber I got a lot of Banshees destroyed across the map without trying to exactly aim at the extra reticle.
Basic plasma weapons, no one should use them too much at medium range (only the plasma repeater might be decent, I suspect that weapon to not have the reticle expanding fast enough while crouched, I can’t test sadly) .
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> > > I took a look at Halo MCC menus and some other stuff, like the preview image for game modes like BTB in find a match.
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> > > I’m of the opinion that 343 very much wants us to forget that playable Elites were ever in Halo.
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> > > - All preview images for Find a Match do not include Elites, even when it’s specific to Halo 3 or Halo 2. - Infection is worded so that you would not assume there to be playable Elites for that mode. - Change voice for Halo 3 (M-F) only says “Spartan” when I’m pretty sure it affects Elites tooMaybe I’m just reading into this too much, but I don’t think 343 has any intention of ever adding Elites again
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> > And here I was, believing that I was the only one to take notice of that… but yes, in H3, the M/F voice change affects elites as well.
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> > Edit: You and me both fear that 343 will pretend that elites never were playable, I hope to be disproven.
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> I really don’t want to be the kind of person that thinks that though!
> We agreed to have this forum available to all and able to seen and responded to no matter what.
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> If they were trying to pretend Playable Elites never existed, I wouldn’t have any respect for them, and they need that respect right now.
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> Also, some of those reasons go a little deep, but the lack of Elites in gamemodes posters kind of scares me.
> Do you think they’re purposely leaving them out to make us forget?
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> With the product of that saying that, being it clearly isn’t working? Haha!
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> > > > > Don’t just give us elites! Do what epic did with gears of war 3, there was a game mode called Beast mode where you can play as any monsters in the game. All the animations and tuning should of been done for these characters why cant we play as our enemies?
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> > It seems like dreaming is all we CAN do now since 343 ignored us for the past two games
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> Lets hope that Microsoft heard our out cries and sat down with the head of 343 for a chat. Cuz you cant put 3 -Yoink- halo games in a row. ok not 3 -Yoink- games but games that divided the community
Well if we do get playable elites then it should be all modes of multiplayer and I honestly dont care if they scale them down or not I just want them back ever since they’ve been taken out all I play is MCC
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> > > > > Don’t just give us elites! Do what epic did with gears of war 3, there was a game mode called Beast mode where you can play as any monsters in the game. All the animations and tuning should of been done for these characters why cant we play as our enemies?
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> > It seems like dreaming is all we CAN do now since 343 ignored us for the past two games
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> Lets hope that Microsoft heard our out cries and sat down with the head of 343 for a chat. Cuz you cant put 3 -Yoink- halo games in a row. ok not 3 -Yoink- games but games that divided the community
Yeah Im hopeful we’ll see playable elites but they ignored us for two games I dont see why they wont for a third
What would be great is if the Arbiter swooped down from a Banshee and went Optimus Prime on all the guys who are stopping us from playing as Elites
Seriously though, why in their right minds would they want to push down one of the greatest parts of the series? Then we get teased by the Helioskrill armour.
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> What would be great is if the Arbiter swooped down from a Banshee and went Optimus Prime on all the guys who are stopping us from playing as Elites
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> Seriously though, why in their right minds would they want to push down one of the greatest parts of the series? Then we get teased by the Helioskrill armour.
Yeah at this point its a bit ridiculous we dont have them back yet I mean they use the same animations from reach where they WERE playable to an extent anyway but it has to be in the games code somewhere I would asume
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> Yeah Im hopeful we’ll see playable elites but they ignored us for two games I dont see why they wont for a third
Unfortunately we have no eyes insides 343i, and the only news they feed us is chosen by them. They have been listening us and slowly making changes, like hiring new / more talented people to help gives us what we want… so the future looks bright
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> > So if playable elites return and it’s only the newer designs, this entire discussion would shift wouldn’t it?
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> What exactly do you mean by shift? And sorry for my previous post I hit submit accidentally and tried editing but it wouldnt work for some reason
The argument would shift over the design of the elites themselves, and why the new designs should/shouldn’t be kept.
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> > > So if playable elites return and it’s only the newer designs, this entire discussion would shift wouldn’t it?
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> > What exactly do you mean by shift? And sorry for my previous post I hit submit accidentally and tried editing but it wouldnt work for some reason
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> The argument would shift over the design of the elites themselves, and why the new designs should/shouldn’t be kept.
Oh ok well IMO I like both designs so I wouldnt mind either but I would prefer the classic design or at least Halo 2a’s campaign elite design and by the looks of it they went back to the classic design in Halo Wars 2 so heres to hoping that transfers from Halo Wars 2 to Halo 6
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> > > > So if playable elites return and it’s only the newer designs, this entire discussion would shift wouldn’t it?
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> > > What exactly do you mean by shift? And sorry for my previous post I hit submit accidentally and tried editing but it wouldnt work for some reason
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> > The argument would shift over the design of the elites themselves, and why the new designs should/shouldn’t be kept.
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> Oh ok well IMO I like both designs so I wouldnt mind either but I would prefer the classic design or at least Halo 2a’s campaign elite design and by the looks of it they went back to the classic design in Halo Wars 2 so heres to hoping that yransfers from Halo Wars 2 to Halo 6
Chances are the new one will still be here and the old one relegated to Arby and spinoffs.
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> > > > > So if playable elites return and it’s only the newer designs, this entire discussion would shift wouldn’t it?
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> > > > What exactly do you mean by shift? And sorry for my previous post I hit submit accidentally and tried editing but it wouldnt work for some reason
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> > > The argument would shift over the design of the elites themselves, and why the new designs should/shouldn’t be kept.
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> > Oh ok well IMO I like both designs so I wouldnt mind either but I would prefer the classic design or at least Halo 2a’s campaign elite design and by the looks of it they went back to the classic design in Halo Wars 2 so heres to hoping that yransfers from Halo Wars 2 to Halo 6
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> Chances are the new one will still be here and the old one relegated to Arby and spinoffs.
I heard somewhere (cant remember where) but apparently both types of elites exist in the same universe 343 just didnt have the resources to make both versions in game its also the same with the new/classic jackals they’re apparently two different types that co-exist in the same universe
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> > > > > > So if playable elites return and it’s only the newer designs, this entire discussion would shift wouldn’t it?
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> > > > > What exactly do you mean by shift? And sorry for my previous post I hit submit accidentally and tried editing but it wouldnt work for some reason
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> > > > The argument would shift over the design of the elites themselves, and why the new designs should/shouldn’t be kept.
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> > > Oh ok well IMO I like both designs so I wouldnt mind either but I would prefer the classic design or at least Halo 2a’s campaign elite design and by the looks of it they went back to the classic design in Halo Wars 2 so heres to hoping that yransfers from Halo Wars 2 to Halo 6
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> > Chances are the new one will still be here and the old one relegated to Arby and spinoffs.
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> I heard somewhere (cant remember where) but apparently both types of elites exist in the same universe 343 just didnt have the resources to make both versions in game its also the same with the new/classic jackals they’re apparently two different types that co-exist in the same universe
Indeed that is true. There are an unknown number of subspecies for almost every species of the Covenant, and people just need to learn to accept that realistic genetic variety. If they used the subspecies that we see in Halo 4/5 but put it in every armor they add, I won’t give a -Yoink-, even though I advocate adding interchangeable subspecies.
Elites, yeah they might cause balancing issues, they’re fun to have around. It’s kinda boring to be a human all the time and can’t we just change races for fun and to make fun of ourselves by acting cute, scary, etc? Bungie did a damn good job at that. I like to have Racial Equality. Elite Lives Matter. Enough with those references about that, the Elites are a unique badass race that fights with honor and valor. They are one of the two embodiments of Halo. The other are the Spartans. Covenant Weapons in Halo are nothing without Elites. We like to role play as Elites and sometimes act like Samurai by playing as Elites as the Elite culture are based on Japanese Samurai culture. They show courage and morality, they fight for their own kinship, and they are one of the most skilled warriors that no one can match with besides Spartans. They are worth the challenge.
I could try to think of other reasons why I think Elites should’ve been in Halo 4 and 5. Despite the balancing system, the Elites have been around Halo for a while. But when Elites cannot be in Halo 4 and 5 as playable characters, many gamers are angry at 343. I was angry at 343 for not having Elites in Halo 4, but what made me feel better is Flood. But I didn’t like the forced color of Spartan survivors, but I did downloaded Hivemind. Now I can make Halo 4 machinimas with Humans fighting Flood. But for Halo 5, I can’t think of a way to make machinimas without Elites except having Insurrection which is what I’m not focused on. In conclusion, I believe we should have Elites in Halo 6, despite the balancing system. If you want a balanced System, make Elite vs Elite and Spartan vs Spartan in multiplayer maps. Of coarse the balance would still be broken in Custom games, but not in Multiplayer matchmaking. Plus, having Elites and Spartans together in Custom Games is good for making Machinima. I believe Elites should be back as playable characters in the Halo series. Those are my reasons. I don’t care about the balancing system, I just want the Elites. Besides, the way 343 put Sangheili building materials and resources for Forge without having playable Elites felt like an insult to me, because making a Sangheili Map and having only Spartans in it is just not right without Elites. This is what I think about Elites in Halo. I hope this clarifies the reason why I like Elites so much.
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> Elites, yeah they might cause balancing issues, they’re fun to have around. It’s kinda boring to be a human all the time and can’t we just change races for fun and to make fun of ourselves by acting cute, scary, etc? Bungie did a damn good job at that. I like to have Racial Equality. Elite Lives Matter. Enough with those references about that, the Elites are a unique badass race that fights with honor and valor. They are one of the two embodiments of Halo. The other are the Spartans. Covenant Weapons in Halo are nothing without Elites. We like to role play as Elites and sometimes act like Samurai by playing as Elites as the Elite culture are based on Japanese Samurai culture. They show courage and morality, they fight for their own kinship, and they are one of the most skilled warriors that no one can match with besides Spartans. They are worth the challenge.
> I could try to think of other reasons why I think Elites should’ve been in Halo 4 and 5. Despite the balancing system, the Elites have been around Halo for a while. But when Elites cannot be in Halo 4 and 5 as playable characters, many gamers are angry at 343. I was angry at 343 for not having Elites in Halo 4, but what made me feel better is Flood. But I didn’t like the forced color of Spartan survivors, but I did downloaded Hivemind. Now I can make Halo 4 machinimas with Humans fighting Flood. But for Halo 5, I can’t think of a way to make machinimas without Elites except having Insurrection which is what I’m not focused on. In conclusion, I believe we should have Elites in Halo 6, despite the balancing system. If you want a balanced System, make Elite vs Elite and Spartan vs Spartan in multiplayer maps. Of coarse the balance would still be broken in Custom games, but not in Multiplayer matchmaking. Plus, having Elites and Spartans together in Custom Games is good for making Machinima. I believe Elites should be back as playable characters in the Halo series. Those are my reasons. I don’t care about the balancing system, I just want the Elites. Besides, the way 343 put Sangheili building materials and resources for Forge without having playable Elites felt like an insult to me, because making a Sangheili Map and having only Spartans in it is just not right without Elites. This is what I think about Elites in Halo. I hope this clarifies the reason why I like Elites so much.
I think playable elites in warzone and social playlists are om I wod understand if it was just spart vs spartan in ranked playlists but even then in ranked they cod do elite vs elite and such but definitely we NEED them in warzone and social and holefully they wont be restricted to custom games because imo that would suck as its still restricting the elite fanbase to a minor portion of what halo has to offer; this is the longest running thread on the forum and if 343 doesnt get the message by now that we want elites back for ALL modes they never will…
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> > > > > > > So if playable elites return and it’s only the newer designs, this entire discussion would shift wouldn’t it?
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> > > > > > What exactly do you mean by shift? And sorry for my previous post I hit submit accidentally and tried editing but it wouldnt work for some reason
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> > > > > The argument would shift over the design of the elites themselves, and why the new designs should/shouldn’t be kept.
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> > > > Oh ok well IMO I like both designs so I wouldnt mind either but I would prefer the classic design or at least Halo 2a’s campaign elite design and by the looks of it they went back to the classic design in Halo Wars 2 so heres to hoping that yransfers from Halo Wars 2 to Halo 6
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> > > Chances are the new one will still be here and the old one relegated to Arby and spinoffs.
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> > I heard somewhere (cant remember where) but apparently both types of elites exist in the same universe 343 just didnt have the resources to make both versions in game its also the same with the new/classic jackals they’re apparently two different types that co-exist in the same universe
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> Indeed that is true. There are an unknown number of subspecies for almost every species of the Covenant, and people just need to learn to accept that realistic genetic variety. If they used the subspecies that we see in Halo 4/5 but put it in every armor they add, I won’t give a -Yoink-, even though I advocate adding interchangeable subspecies.
I gotta remember it from a gameplay standpoint if we’re already adding playable elites in. Things gotta compromise from what we want.
I’d love to be surprised though!
Pretty sure they already know we want the old design back because of the promotion of Halo Wars 2 for it’s design of the elites and everything else alone from the game.
You gotta admit though, if we get interchangable undersuits in Halo 6 for spartans, I would be surprised if they don’t add species skins later for them cause that’d be perfect for add-on content. For me, I don’t care how the mandibles look even if they change from the desert scaly rigid elites in 343’s duo of games now, compared to the black leather, round mandibles we saw in Bungie.
Have dat interchangeable armour, dos big elites from Reach, Invasion, and assassinations.
