Sangheili (Elites) In New Trilogy Matchmaking (Part 1)

So, heres what I think can work. Give Elites their own playlists or put them only in social playlists and I think there will be little worry about.

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> So, heres what I think can work. Give Elites their own playlists or put them only in social playlists and I think there will be little worry about.

My only fear is that an elite only playlist would split the playerbase. Other than that, elites for social, Im all for it.

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> > So, heres what I think can work. Give Elites their own playlists or put them only in social playlists and I think there will be little worry about.
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> My only fear is that an elite only playlist would split the playerbase. Other than that, elites for social, Im all for it.

It didn’t really when they did it in Reach.
They could just go for the Reach contruction again and even add more races and types of infantry to the mix and just limit it to an “Invasion” type playlist.

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> > So, heres what I think can work. Give Elites their own playlists or put them only in social playlists and I think there will be little worry about.
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> My only fear is that an elite only playlist would split the playerbase. Other than that, elites for social, Im all for it.

But think of the potential in the clan to clan specism between spartan clans and elite clans and the battles that would ensue!

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> > > So, heres what I think can work. Give Elites their own playlists or put them only in social playlists and I think there will be little worry about.
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> > My only fear is that an elite only playlist would split the playerbase. Other than that, elites for social, Im all for it.
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> It didn’t really when they did it in Reach.
> They could just go for the Reach contruction again and even add more races and types of infantry to the mix and just limit it to an “Invasion” type playlist.

I’ll be frank, Im not a big fan of the reach construction, at all, I prefer not have to play invasion all the time just to play as an elite.

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> > > So, heres what I think can work. Give Elites their own playlists or put them only in social playlists and I think there will be little worry about.
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> > My only fear is that an elite only playlist would split the playerbase. Other than that, elites for social, Im all for it.
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> But think of the potential in the clan to clan specism between spartan clans and elite clans and the battles that would ensue!

Hm, that’s a good point, I guess we have to wait and see. Granted, if they add back elites.

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> > So, heres what I think can work. Give Elites their own playlists or put them only in social playlists and I think there will be little worry about.
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> My only fear is that an elite only playlist would split the playerbase. Other than that, elites for social, Im all for it.

That’s kind’ve the gripe everyone’s worried about, including me.
It’ll split everyone all over the place.
I’ll accept the bare minimum of bringing back Halo 3 Elites, because apparently those worked for competitive.
However, I will never stop pushing the need for a height gauge that you can give your elite.
Long Story short, your elite must be as tall as Spartans for Matchmaking, but can be any height for games like Invasion, Elite Slayer, or just Casual gamemodes in general.

If it really becomes a problem in casual, and I mean REALLY becomes a problem (even though it was all good for Reach and 3) and, and only than will there be some solution of all Spartan modes, all elite modes, etc.
I can’t see why we can’t just have that height rule apply to Competitive and nothing else. If you want to play competitive as an elite, it will require you to go into the customization settings and tone down the height.

I personally think this would make everyone happy, because that’s the main argument between Reach Elites and 3 Elites. The height is big!

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> > > So, heres what I think can work. Give Elites their own playlists or put them only in social playlists and I think there will be little worry about.
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> > My only fear is that an elite only playlist would split the playerbase. Other than that, elites for social, Im all for it.
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> It didn’t really when they did it in Reach.
> They could just go for the Reach contruction again and even add more races and types of infantry to the mix and just limit it to an “Invasion” type playlist.

That is a good point but I think it should be used at least a few times out side of Invasion, while, of course, keeping it for custom games.
Put them in Social until it REALLY becomes a problem, which I don’t think it will.
We could have bets about this if they end up putting them in social.

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> > > So, heres what I think can work. Give Elites their own playlists or put them only in social playlists and I think there will be little worry about.
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> > My only fear is that an elite only playlist would split the playerbase. Other than that, elites for social, Im all for it.
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> I’ll accept the bare minimum of bringing back Halo 3 Elites, because apparently those worked for competitive.

Well, not really.
Those hunchbacked monsters had different faulty hitboxes compared to Spartans.

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> > > > So, heres what I think can work. Give Elites their own playlists or put them only in social playlists and I think there will be little worry about.
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> > > My only fear is that an elite only playlist would split the playerbase. Other than that, elites for social, Im all for it.
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> > I’ll accept the bare minimum of bringing back Halo 3 Elites, because apparently those worked for competitive.
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> Well, not really.
> Those hunchbacked monsters had different faulty hitboxes compared to Spartans.

That is correct, which is why I suggest keeping them in social.

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> > So, heres what I think can work. Give Elites their own playlists or put them only in social playlists and I think there will be little worry about.
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> My only fear is that an elite only playlist would split the playerbase. Other than that, elites for social, Im all for it.

I like that, a good balance of both ideas

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> > > Alrighty humans, as I was playing “Awakening the Nightmare” for the 4th time I noticed the interesting armour sets among the Jiralhanae an idea began to flourish in my thoughts: Playable Jiralhanae as well. No real gameplay differences than the Sangheili other than being bigger and maybe a tiny bit stronger melee but slower than a Sangheili. The various armour sets we see in the Cutscenes for the “DKs” intruiged me. Perhaps we could even see the armour the Rangers wear in the cutscenes replace the Storm Harness, as I feel it’s a “Bungie-ified” Storm Harness. What say you to this idea?
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> > Brutes, Elites, and Spartans are probably a good set of three, but I’d like to add ODST’s into the mix to balance Covanent and UNSC playable characters as a suggestion.
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> > Another suggestion to add on is Helmet-less customization as well. Kind of like ODST with the set character faces when you choose to play with a helmet or not, except for all 4. Thoughts?
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> > And maybe a Flood firefight as well?
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> Flood firefight would be amazing, that together whit Halo reach’s firefight voices.
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> Going even further, have both spartans and elites, I’d imagine my elite roar something like “Cursed abomenation”! Whilst spartans -though god forbid, H6 be T-for Teen- go “Sonova -Yoink-”! I may not play as a spartan, but still would find it rather boring if they’d just say “Target eliminated”.

That’s true. Maybe some classic “Wort Wort Wort!” or actual dialogue from Arbiter, Ship Master, and other popular Elite characters would be nice too. And if for Brutes: Tartarus, Atriox, Decimus, and others would be pretty cool as well.

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> > So, heres what I think can work. Give Elites their own playlists or put them only in social playlists and I think there will be little worry about.
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> My only fear is that an elite only playlist would split the playerbase. Other than that, elites for social, Im all for it.

Either way works fine.

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> Brutes, Elites, and Spartans are probably a good set of three, but I’d like to add ODST’s into the mix to balance Covanent and UNSC playable characters as a suggestion.
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> Another suggestion to add on is Helmet-less customization as well. Kind of like ODST with the set character faces when you choose to play with a helmet or not, except for all 4. Thoughts?
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> And maybe a Flood firefight as well?

Promethean soldiers are begging to be playable, they can use all vehicles, use all weapons, and they have their own advanced movement in the form of teleporting! They just need to be playable.

I would personally hope Elites would make it into every playlist, otherwise I might as well be playing COD. Why have something I want to play as limited to only so much? Halo introduced honest diversity with the inclusion of Elites, and I think it’s a shame they get so much flak for not being human enough.

However I’m not above compromise, these are just my unadulterated thoughts.

Wow…thread is still going…last time I posted 2014. I would settle for an awsome invasion gametype as an elite. If 343 manages to incorporate elites into social playlists… that’s even better. Dialogue would be pretty nice. Also I really liked the animations specific to elites such as head shaking… hand preaching(staying still with a plasma rifle as an elite in halo 3)… raging (from halo reach)… even the stance of an elite swordsman…and the evade (albeit this might need to be tweaked) … were all awsome

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> > Another suggestion to add on is Helmet-less customization as well. Kind of like ODST with the set character faces when you choose to play with a helmet or not, except for all 4. Thoughts?
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> > And maybe a Flood firefight as well?
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> Promethean soldiers are begging to be playable, they can use all vehicles, use all weapons, and they have their own advanced movement in the form of teleporting! They just need to be playable.

If we can get Elites, Prometheons and Spartans would be fun and exciting.

they’d need to be careful about the hitboxes though

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> > > > So, heres what I think can work. Give Elites their own playlists or put them only in social playlists and I think there will be little worry about.
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> > > My only fear is that an elite only playlist would split the playerbase. Other than that, elites for social, Im all for it.
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> > I’ll accept the bare minimum of bringing back Halo 3 Elites, because apparently those worked for competitive.
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> Well, not really.
> Those hunchbacked monsters had different faulty hitboxes compared to Spartans.

Yeah, exactly, apparently they had a bad effect on the multiplayer, even though I wasn’t there to see it, I heard the utmost worst.
Is there absolutely no way of fixing that though?
Those were the hunched over Halo 3 elites if I’m not mistaken, we’re all talking about the potential for just a smaller Reach elite, with an option to make your Elite taller and smaller in the customization, with a prerequisite that it must be “Yay-high” to participate in competitive, probably about a Spartan’s height for balance sake.

Could that technically work? Reach elites were a lot more slender and stood up straight. It could help the balance for an otherwise justified preach to have Elites potential for all gamemodes,
If you liked Reach elites a lot better because of their height, simply make him bigger, and take him to a casual gamemode like Invasion where they are encouraged to be tall!

Why not do this for Spartans?
Because -Yoink- have we been neglected for 2 games!
They got all the love, and we got nothing!
They even got cool new Weapons like the Pool of Radiance that I’M NOT ALLOWED TO USE!
You see what I mean? hahaha!

I actually wouldn’t mind a bigger hit box on my character, as long as I’m an elite…lol. Take away their shields and make their health the same as Spartans and I’ll still play as an elite (although this might get frustrating with precision weapons)