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> > > I sense another halo info drought coming on, seeing how the forums and especially this thread having less activity than we once had. Just hold fast and wait this out, don’t let this thread be forgotten! Anyways what do you think 343 will do with the Banished and the Swords of Sanghelios if they are in halo 6 since both their color schemes are based around red.
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> > I’m afraid it’s going to get very quiet until E3, but don’t worry we won’t forget this thread, i guarantee once a sneak preview for halo 6 appears this thread will explode.
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> > As for the banished and SoS I think if they do appear in halo 6 we will mostly be fighting brutes with elites as allies ( once the elites in the banished see the arbiter and the SoS, who’s to say they won’t hightail and join?)The shipmaster (can’t remember his name) truly cares for his elites and they are in constant danger with the banished lets hope the arbiter throws them a lifeline. ( I’m done with killing elites, let me at those brute ******)
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> > I’m afraid i answered your question with another question.
> > My opinion if it follows my theory and we will be fighting brutes they may stick with the colour red but go much darker while the elites will be on the light side.
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> It has been stated that Shipmaster Let 'Volir does not wish to side with the Swords of Sanghelios nor the Reformed Covenant. So, that would eliminate the concept of distinguishing the Banished as only Jiralhanae on the battlefield.
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> The situation that both of the factions color schemes are red can be solved as the Swords of Sanghelios ranks tend to have brick plus white color schemes while the Banished Sangheili Ranks usually just have crimson. Also, the Standard Combat Harness and Standard Storm Harness used by the SoS are easily distinguishable from the Standard Banished Harness, at least in my opinion.
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> I’m not sure if you considered vehicles an issue or not with them both using red, but I think you can tell which vehicles are Banished and which vehicles aren’t
Surely once he sees the arbiter and how he treats his elites he might change his mind, From my perspective it doesn’t look like hes enjoying his time with Atriox.
But we will just have to see on what kinda Sangheili he is.
And i agree what you said about the style of the two factions.
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> > > > I sense another halo info drought coming on, seeing how the forums and especially this thread having less activity than we once had. Just hold fast and wait this out, don’t let this thread be forgotten! Anyways what do you think 343 will do with the Banished and the Swords of Sanghelios if they are in halo 6 since both their color schemes are based around red.
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> > > I’m afraid it’s going to get very quiet until E3, but don’t worry we won’t forget this thread, i guarantee once a sneak preview for halo 6 appears this thread will explode.
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> > > As for the banished and SoS I think if they do appear in halo 6 we will mostly be fighting brutes with elites as allies ( once the elites in the banished see the arbiter and the SoS, who’s to say they won’t hightail and join?)The shipmaster (can’t remember his name) truly cares for his elites and they are in constant danger with the banished lets hope the arbiter throws them a lifeline. ( I’m done with killing elites, let me at those brute ******)
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> > > I’m afraid i answered your question with another question.
> > > My opinion if it follows my theory and we will be fighting brutes they may stick with the colour red but go much darker while the elites will be on the light side.
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> > It has been stated that Shipmaster Let 'Volir does not wish to side with the Swords of Sanghelios nor the Reformed Covenant. So, that would eliminate the concept of distinguishing the Banished as only Jiralhanae on the battlefield.
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> > The situation that both of the factions color schemes are red can be solved as the Swords of Sanghelios ranks tend to have brick plus white color schemes while the Banished Sangheili Ranks usually just have crimson. Also, the Standard Combat Harness and Standard Storm Harness used by the SoS are easily distinguishable from the Standard Banished Harness, at least in my opinion.
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> > I’m not sure if you considered vehicles an issue or not with them both using red, but I think you can tell which vehicles are Banished and which vehicles aren’t
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> Surely once he sees the arbiter and how he treats his elites he might change his mind, From my perspective it doesn’t look like hes enjoying his time with Atriox.
> But we will just have to see on what kinda Sangheili he is.
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> And i agree what you said about the style of the two factions.
Yeah, we didn’t get much screen time of him, but the problem is that he holds disdain for the Arbiter’s attempts at peace with Humanity.
Seeing this thread still going strong, hoping 343 will listen. Even some YouTubers have promoted #BringBackElites I miss playing as Sangheili, and miss how Halo used to be. Don’t find it fun anymore cause of the big change it took in Halo 5. I believe 343 can fix these problems, and make a good game, but they need to understand that the changes that were made weren’t good.
Hopefully they’ve had even time, and Microsoft is letting them do what they need to do to make a good game. Bring back the Elites, they are missed by tons of Halo Fans. Even some people who’s first Halo game is Halo 5 wants to play as them, cause they think it’d be cool.
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> Seeing this thread still going strong, hoping 343 will listen. Even some YouTubers have promoted #BringBackElites I miss playing as Sangheili, and miss how Halo used to be. Don’t find it fun anymore cause of the big change it took in Halo 5. I believe 343 can fix these problems, and make a good game, but they need to understand that the changes that were made weren’t good.
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> Hopefully they’ve had even time, and Microsoft is letting them do what they need to do to make a good game. Bring back the Elites, they are missed by tons of Halo Fans. Even some people who’s first Halo game is Halo 5 wants to play as them, cause they think it’d be cool.
I’m with you on that, 343 should bring back playable elites. I have been playing as elites from Halo 2 in 2004 to Halo Reach in 2010. I’ve have been waiting a long time for 343 to bring them back. However what I’ve been hearing from some players is that playable elites messes up the multiplayer, but I don’t care. #BringBackElites!!!
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> > That’s quite silly to say, considering the fact that Bungie changed the subspecies you see quite a few time themselves.
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> No, he is essentially correct. Bungie never said the subspecies/phenotype changed between games and it was simply accepted that the art style changed. They were the same Elites.
Perhaps you could consider this a two-month grudge, but I was just scrolling through the good ol’ Halo Bulletin and happened to come across this information and I thought of your post. So, here is a little bit of proof that the different subspecies of Sangheili seen are indeed different subspecies and the variety is Canon. Click this hyperlink and scroll down to the second question asked.
I think 343i is learning, to an extent. They know that halo 4 forge was crap, so Bam best forge in the series. Then again, Halo 4 campaign was decent. But then halo 5 is the kid who sits by himself. Whe have made 343 listen to us, Hw2 art stlyes in 6, splitscreen, so it is unlikely that we wont have elites. Howvever , we may have a trade off for it. Such as server issues, not enough customization, or wired hitboxes as in halo 3 in swat. So I think we should make sure the dont make the same. Mistakes. It takes something bad to make something great
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> > > That’s quite silly to say, considering the fact that Bungie changed the subspecies you see quite a few time themselves.
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> > No, he is essentially correct. Bungie never said the subspecies/phenotype changed between games and it was simply accepted that the art style changed. They were the same Elites.
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> Perhaps you could consider this a two-month grudge, but I was just scrolling through the good ol’ Halo Bulletin and happened to come across this information and I thought of your post. So, here is a little bit of proof that the different subspecies of Sangheili seen are indeed different subspecies and the variety is Canon. Click this hyperlink and scroll down to the second question asked.
Again, that was 343 giving a canon explanation for the differences that Bungie didn’t necessarily intend, with the exception of the Jackals/Skirmishers difference in Reach which was pretty clear, involved distinct gameplay differences, and were both in the same game so was not down to simple artistic choices.
While I don’t mind them trying to explain away the significant visual differences between games, there are simply way too many loose ends they just can’t pass off as “oh that’s a different phenotype”. I mean, every single member of a species seen in a single game being of the same phenotype when there are supposedly many variants now is rather silly. Where did all the old ones we just saw in the same ares go then? Sure, the Sangheili in Halo 4/some of 5 may be from that colony I forget the name of. Alright, but every single one in both games? And we don’t see any of the old Grunts or Skirmishers anymore? It’s just too messy for my liking.
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> > > > That’s quite silly to say, considering the fact that Bungie changed the subspecies you see quite a few time themselves.
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> > > No, he is essentially correct. Bungie never said the subspecies/phenotype changed between games and it was simply accepted that the art style changed. They were the same Elites.
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> > Perhaps you could consider this a two-month grudge, but I was just scrolling through the good ol’ Halo Bulletin and happened to come across this information and I thought of your post. So, here is a little bit of proof that the different subspecies of Sangheili seen are indeed different subspecies and the variety is Canon. Click this hyperlink and scroll down to the second question asked.
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> Again, that was 343 giving a canon explanation for the differences that Bungie didn’t necessarily intend, with the exception of the Jackals/Skirmishers difference in Reach which was pretty clear, involved distinct gameplay differences, and were both in the same game so was not down to simple artistic choices.
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> While I don’t mind them trying to explain away the significant visual differences between games, there are simply way too many loose ends they just can’t pass off as “oh that’s a different phenotype”. I mean, every single member of a species seen in a single game being of the same phenotype when there are supposedly many variants now is rather silly. Where did all the old ones we just saw in the same ares go then? Sure, the Sangheili in Halo 4/some of 5 may be from that colony I forget the name of. Alright, but every single one in both games? And we don’t see any of the old Grunts or Skirmishers anymore? It’s just too messy for my liking.
Well, the thing about there only being one subspecies seen throughout one game is just due to time constraints and lack of resources. Maybe as technology gets a little more advanced and Microsoft loosens their grip on 343 a little, we could have a more ideal game with more models showing this genetic variety. Also, the T’vaoan (Skirmishers) saw excessive use during the Fall of Reach. Their subspecies survived, but their numbers were completely diminished.
Another thing I would like to add from my last post is sangheili is what motivate me to come back to play.
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> Believe it or not, elites had the same hit boxes in halo 3 as spartans, but there was a psychological issue as people were thinking they were hitting certain spots, when they weren’t because they followed the model and not the hitbox, so it was weird.
> So keep it in for un-ranked play, but only keep in spartans for ranked play.
> Hell have a elite only gametype.
I KNEW IT! I knew the hitboxes were not the issue, it was all in the heads of the players.
I like the Elite sin un-ranked slayer and so on. Good choice here.
Playable elites and invasion better be in halo 6
Wow this thread is definitely growing faster than it did last year that’s for sure, let’s hope it never stops. The vote seems to have really grown too
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> Wow this thread is definitely growing faster than it did last year that’s for sure, let’s hope it never stops. The vote seems to have really grown too
Yep, let’s hope it stays that way, it might be due to that Halo Wars 2 came out I think and seeing the Elites in Halo 2A looks.
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> > Wow this thread is definitely growing faster than it did last year that’s for sure, let’s hope it never stops. The vote seems to have really grown too
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> Yep, let’s hope it stays that way, it might be due to that Halo Wars 2 came out I think and seeing the Elites in Halo 2A looks.
Lets hope for the h2a looks to continue, those are always great.
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> > > Wow this thread is definitely growing faster than it did last year that’s for sure, let’s hope it never stops. The vote seems to have really grown too
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> > Yep, let’s hope it stays that way, it might be due to that Halo Wars 2 came out I think and seeing the Elites in Halo 2A looks.
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> Lets hope for the h2a looks to continue, those are always great.
The h2a elites looked awful in my opinion
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> > > > Wow this thread is definitely growing faster than it did last year that’s for sure, let’s hope it never stops. The vote seems to have really grown too
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> > > Yep, let’s hope it stays that way, it might be due to that Halo Wars 2 came out I think and seeing the Elites in Halo 2A looks.
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> > Lets hope for the h2a looks to continue, those are always great.
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> The h2a elites looked awful in my opinion
Intresting, why do you think that?
(My personal favorites are original H2)
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> Believe it or not, elites had the same hit boxes in halo 3 as spartans, but there was a psychological issue as people were thinking they were hitting certain spots, when they weren’t because they followed the model and not the hitbox, so it was weird.
> So keep it in for un-ranked play, but only keep in spartans for ranked play.
> Hell have a elite only gametype.
Sounds about right!
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> > > > > Wow this thread is definitely growing faster than it did last year that’s for sure, let’s hope it never stops. The vote seems to have really grown too
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> > > > Yep, let’s hope it stays that way, it might be due to that Halo Wars 2 came out I think and seeing the Elites in Halo 2A looks.
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> > > Lets hope for the h2a looks to continue, those are always great.
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> > The h2a elites looked awful in my opinion
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> Intresting, why do you think that?
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> (My personal favorites are original H2)
I like the original H2 way better, the h2a elites armor was too rounded, their feet looked entirely different, and the whole head just… It looked horrible
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> > > > > > Wow this thread is definitely growing faster than it did last year that’s for sure, let’s hope it never stops. The vote seems to have really grown too
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> > > > > Yep, let’s hope it stays that way, it might be due to that Halo Wars 2 came out I think and seeing the Elites in Halo 2A looks.
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> > > > Lets hope for the h2a looks to continue, those are always great.
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> > > The h2a elites looked awful in my opinion
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> > Intresting, why do you think that?
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> > (My personal favorites are original H2)
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> I like the original H2 way better, the h2a elites armor was too rounded, their feet looked entirely different, and the whole head just… It looked horrible
yeah the h2a elites looked really weird, honestly a lot of the h2a armours looked weird in general.
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> > > > > > Yep, let’s hope it stays that way, it might be due to that Halo Wars 2 came out I think and seeing the Elites in Halo 2A looks.
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> > > > > Lets hope for the h2a looks to continue, those are always great.
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> > > (My personal favorites are original H2)
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> > I like the original H2 way better, the h2a elites armor was too rounded, their feet looked entirely different, and the whole head just… It looked horrible
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> yeah the h2a elites looked really weird, honestly a lot of the h2a armours looked weird in general.
I don’t understand why you say that, they look a lot better to me.
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