Sangheili (Elites) In New Trilogy Matchmaking (Part 1)

Can this thread just die already?

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> > I wouldn’t care if playable elites are added. But as long as they are not in Competitive/Ranked Arena, I’m fine with it. The different body structure would really screw with competitive play and could cause an unfair advantage.
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> > How has this thread stayed alive for 4 years…
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> Because we’re a strong part of the community.
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> Better question is, why has 343 not added them in the last four years?

BECAUSE, OF, THE, STUPID, HIT, BOX, BALANCE, ISSUES. Inless you want weirdly spartan shaped elites, or a game mode like Invasion In Reach which was unpopular and didn’t get kept, it’s just illogical to make them in the games.

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> > > I wouldn’t care if playable elites are added. But as long as they are not in Competitive/Ranked Arena, I’m fine with it. The different body structure would really screw with competitive play and could cause an unfair advantage.
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> > > How has this thread stayed alive for 4 years…
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> > Because we’re a strong part of the community.
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> > Better question is, why has 343 not added them in the last four years?
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> BECAUSE, OF, THE, STUPID, HIT, BOX, BALANCE, ISSUES. Inless you want weirdly spartan shaped elites, or a game mode like Invasion In Reach which was unpopular and didn’t get kept, it’s just illogical to make them in the games.

The balance issues can be fixed, especially if the dev does so in a competent way. You also ignore there are many work arounds to that such as a playlists where it’s exclusively nothing but elites, bam! Everyone has the same footing and nothing is unfair. Seriously tho it just takes a competent dev to make the models correctly, if other games can do various aliens and monsters and the like halo can do one race at least.

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> > Can this thread just die already?
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> > > > I wouldn’t care if playable elites are added. But as long as they are not in Competitive/Ranked Arena, I’m fine with it. The different body structure would really screw with competitive play and could cause an unfair advantage.
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> > > > How has this thread stayed alive for 4 years…
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> > > Because we’re a strong part of the community.
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> > > Better question is, why has 343 not added them in the last four years?
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> > BECAUSE, OF, THE, STUPID, HIT, BOX, BALANCE, ISSUES. Inless you want weirdly spartan shaped elites, or a game mode like Invasion In Reach which was unpopular and didn’t get kept, it’s just illogical to make them in the games.
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> The balance issues can be fixed, especially if the dev does so in a competent way. You also ignore there are many work arounds to that such as a playlists where it’s exclusively nothing but elites, bam! Everyone has the same footing and nothing is unfair. Seriously tho it just takes a competent dev to make the models correctly, if other games can do various aliens and monsters and the like halo can do one race at least.

Ok, go on, explain how to can be fixed?

Also really, an entire playlist just so people can play as an alternate skin? That’s such a waste of dev time.

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> > > I wouldn’t care if playable elites are added. But as long as they are not in Competitive/Ranked Arena, I’m fine with it. The different body structure would really screw with competitive play and could cause an unfair advantage.
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> > > How has this thread stayed alive for 4 years…
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> > Because we’re a strong part of the community.
> >
> > Better question is, why has 343 not added them in the last four years?
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> BECAUSE, OF, THE, STUPID, HIT, BOX, BALANCE, ISSUES. Inless you want weirdly spartan shaped elites, or a game mode like Invasion In Reach which was unpopular and didn’t get kept, it’s just illogical to make them in the games.

Why don’t you just die already! There are ways to balance them and they are a true complaint thanks to this gathering of the minds! If you want to argue your point, don’t attack the thread, we’ve already been over this topic close to 900 times now and won’t he’s afraid to revisit it!

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> > > > > I wouldn’t care if playable elites are added. But as long as they are not in Competitive/Ranked Arena, I’m fine with it. The different body structure would really screw with competitive play and could cause an unfair advantage.
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> > > > > How has this thread stayed alive for 4 years…
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> > > > Because we’re a strong part of the community.
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> > > > Better question is, why has 343 not added them in the last four years?
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> > > BECAUSE, OF, THE, STUPID, HIT, BOX, BALANCE, ISSUES. Inless you want weirdly spartan shaped elites, or a game mode like Invasion In Reach which was unpopular and didn’t get kept, it’s just illogical to make them in the games.
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> > The balance issues can be fixed, especially if the dev does so in a competent way. You also ignore there are many work arounds to that such as a playlists where it’s exclusively nothing but elites, bam! Everyone has the same footing and nothing is unfair. Seriously tho it just takes a competent dev to make the models correctly, if other games can do various aliens and monsters and the like halo can do one race at least.
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> Ok, go on, explain how to can be fixed?
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> Also really, an entire playlist just so people can play as an alternate skin? That’s such a waste of dev time.

Keep in mind I’m not even one who would play as an elite, never have reallly (I mean, I’ve tried it just to try it but that’s about it, I’m not as serious on it as these other guys in this thread are). So I have no bias towards playable elites but I do find it funny 343 won’t do something so simple mixed with taking away another feature that was in previous games.

as for the model it’s simple: adjust them to where they’re the same size as a Spartan model, get their head corrected where headshots are the same. As I said earlier, other games are able to do it with various aliens, monsters, robots, etc etc, halo shouldn’t be no different unless the dev has no interest, and since elites were only in during bungies days they’re at fault for not adjusting the models for those that had issues with it. Bungie may have been a good dev but they too had their own flaws in various things, refinement wasn’t one of them.

“if” adjusting the model really wouldn’t work then a separate playlist can work, it did in the past when they had elite exclusive game modes and such. You say it’s a waste if dev time to make. Separate playlists, but they’re fairly simple to make(you’re literally just adjusting the settings and tabbing it as a playlist, it doesn’t take hours,343 have shown this when they can take and add playlists on the fly) and one could argue previous playlists already are a waste of “dev time”, so why not waste more? Not to mention it doesn’t need to be just about the cosmetic skin of an elite, but playing more with covenant themed maps and weapons(why they have covenant slayer to begin with).

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> Can this thread just die already?
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> > > I wouldn’t care if playable elites are added. But as long as they are not in Competitive/Ranked Arena, I’m fine with it. The different body structure would really screw with competitive play and could cause an unfair advantage.
> > >
> > > How has this thread stayed alive for 4 years…
> >
> > Because we’re a strong part of the community.
> >
> > Better question is, why has 343 not added them in the last four years?
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> BECAUSE, OF, THE, STUPID, HIT, BOX, BALANCE, ISSUES. Inless you want weirdly spartan shaped elites, or a game mode like Invasion In Reach which was unpopular and didn’t get kept, it’s just illogical to make them in the games.

Guys ignore him. Its intolerance like this that holds our world back.

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> I wouldn’t care if playable elites are added. But as long as they are not in Competitive/Ranked Arena, I’m fine with it. The different body structure would really screw with competitive play and could cause an unfair advantage.
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> How has this thread stayed alive for 4 years…

Because people have wanted elites back since '12. Honestly even further back than that.
Yes we’re fine if they’re only in social and that’s good enough for some of us.

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> I wouldn’t care if playable elites are added. But as long as they are not in Competitive/Ranked Arena, I’m fine with it. The different body structure would really screw with competitive play and could cause an unfair advantage.
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> How has this thread stayed alive for 4 years…

Thats why I was proposing making Elties playable in all modes except the rank playlists. Besides, the rank crowd spends 24/7 in rank anyway.

game mod covenant slayer with no élite …

I would definitely like to see playable Elites in halo 5 or 6

P.S. Holy -yoink-! This thread is soooooooo long!!

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> I would definitely like to see playable Elites in halo 5 or 6
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> P.S. Holy -yoink-! This thread is soooooooo long!!

Glad to have you on board! Feel free to leave any thoughts on what you’d like to see!

I really like the Honour Guard Elite Armour in Halo Wars 2

Heck, why not Brutes too

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> Heck, why not Brutes too

Grunts as well!

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There’s no way for grunts (maybe the mech?) but brutes would be interesting. But one step at a time.
Lets put the elites back in multiplayer

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> There’s no way for grunts (maybe the mech?) but brutes would be interesting. But one step at a time.
> Lets put the elites back in multiplayer

I dont want grunts for normal matchmaking, (maybe another game where you can pick classes and stuff) It was always fun running around in halo pc as a grunt.

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> > > Grunts as well!
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> > There’s no way for grunts (maybe the mech?) but brutes would be interesting. But one step at a time.
> > Lets put the elites back in multiplayer
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> I dont want grunts for normal matchmaking, (maybe another game where you can pick classes and stuff) It was always fun running around in halo pc as a grunt.

I remember custom edition as well. Maybe a return of mini slayer? Just grunt version. Id look forward to seeing that in action sack.

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> I wouldn’t care if playable elites are added. But as long as they are not in Competitive/Ranked Arena, I’m fine with it. The different body structure would really screw with competitive play and could cause an unfair advantage.
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> How has this thread stayed alive for 4 years…

Answers

1- For competitive there could be a section for the different player models, the difference on the hitboxes does could screw the balance but rather in favour of the Spartans (Elites are bigger targets)

2-Given that the playable Elites were added on H2 and were kept in multiplayer until the end of the Bungie’s Age, they have become something classic in multiplayer, so is worth to ask for it.

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> > > > Grunts as well!
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> > > There’s no way for grunts (maybe the mech?) but brutes would be interesting. But one step at a time.
> > > Lets put the elites back in multiplayer
> >
> > I dont want grunts for normal matchmaking, (maybe another game where you can pick classes and stuff) It was always fun running around in halo pc as a grunt.
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> I remember custom edition as well. Maybe a return of mini slayer? Just grunt version. Id look forward to seeing that in action sack.

That would be awesome!

Were counting on you 343i don’t disappoint us please.