Sangheili (Elites) In New Trilogy Matchmaking (Part 1)

Games Halo 5: Guardians
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> > > > > > over 800 pages long and still no playable elites smh
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeah because elites suck and do not belong in matchmaking lmao
> > > >
> > > > That is your opinion. If you don’t like the feature, don’t use it. There is so much more to halo then Spartans. The Sangheili community has as much right to be represented in the games as the Spartan community. So, like Warthog, I am curious about you reasoning. (And the so called balancing issuse are not a good reason, the game is about fun not how well you can do in M.P.)
> > >
> > > Balancing is actually a huge reason to not include them if they really were to cause said issue, I however think they can easily work around that though.
> > >
> > > There are people who won’t have “fun” if a game is unbalanced.
> >
> > So true! And that’s what most of our conversations are for, to solutionize that! But if there are any flaws in the system we create or if there is any other system anyone else has, please post it, because I’d love to see the best way to add them! In fact! Anyone reading, if you ever have any ideas about that, please say so, or even for cosmetic, or even aiming at what they could add to elites if they are added back, because I don’t wanna leave out any good info!
>
> I just don’t know what to put for ground pound or stabilizer. Honestly, I could do without them, wouldn’t be a great loos for me, but I want to accommodate everyone’s wants I feel are reasonable.

Ground pound man! Pound the ground! I mean, honestly It’d probably look weird but, you could always have a faster pound but not AOE! I mean, ground pound kills Spartans anyway, why not use an aged Reach tactic that Elites always had! Miniature energy swords in their wrists! The pound would propel much faster but there is no other damage, and you have to suffer a short killing animation where it would look something like Every Halo Reach Assassination - YouTube 5:51
Than again I’d just be making another assassination, goddamnit get someone else’s idea I’m useless haha! But cootos to you for making me search up and get all nostalgic for how I want Elite assassinations to be in the future, hahaha!

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> > > > > > > over 800 pages long and still no playable elites smh
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yeah because elites suck and do not belong in matchmaking lmao
> > > > >
> > > > > That is your opinion. If you don’t like the feature, don’t use it. There is so much more to halo then Spartans. The Sangheili community has as much right to be represented in the games as the Spartan community. So, like Warthog, I am curious about you reasoning. (And the so called balancing issuse are not a good reason, the game is about fun not how well you can do in M.P.)
> > > >
> > > > Balancing is actually a huge reason to not include them if they really were to cause said issue, I however think they can easily work around that though.
> > > >
> > > > There are people who won’t have “fun” if a game is unbalanced.
> > >
> > > So true! And that’s what most of our conversations are for, to solutionize that! But if there are any flaws in the system we create or if there is any other system anyone else has, please post it, because I’d love to see the best way to add them! In fact! Anyone reading, if you ever have any ideas about that, please say so, or even for cosmetic, or even aiming at what they could add to elites if they are added back, because I don’t wanna leave out any good info!
> >
> > I just don’t know what to put for ground pound or stabilizer. Honestly, I could do without them, wouldn’t be a great loos for me, but I want to accommodate everyone’s wants I feel are reasonable.
>
> Ground pound man! Pound the ground! I mean, honestly It’d probably look weird but, you could always have a faster pound but not AOE! I mean, ground pound kills Spartans anyway, why not use an aged Reach tactic that Elites always had! Miniature energy swords in their wrists! The pound would propel much faster but there is no other damage, and you have to suffer a short killing animation where it would look something like Every Halo Reach Assassination - YouTube 5:51
> Than again I’d just be making another assassination, goddamnit get someone else’s idea I’m useless haha! But cootos to you for making me search up and get all nostalgic for how I want Elite assassinations to be in the future, hahaha!

What about something similar? A death from adove sort of deal. when ever your in an elevated position you have a choice to use it. You hit whatever button(s) and you target your adversary, your character activaits the energy daggers (may take a second)on their arm and jumps down stabbing the first enemy you targeted. Then after you dispose of them you can continue on, using your superior speed and agility to quickly close the gap between you and other enemies. once you reach them you simply hit the melee button to stab them. However the energy daggers die quickly, so you are limited to close targets and you slow back down to a more natural pace once they die. you only see this in first person (no special animation, just shows first person view of you stabbing them in the chest or back) and there is a short time before you can use it again. The trade offs between this and ground pound are you move much faster and only target one enemy at a time, where as with ground pound your a bit slow but can take out or stun many enemies with one strike. And for the spartans, this could be something they could choose to have, considering the alliance with the Swords. What do you and Chocolate think?

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> > > > > > > > over 800 pages long and still no playable elites smh
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yeah because elites suck and do not belong in matchmaking lmao
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That is your opinion. If you don’t like the feature, don’t use it. There is so much more to halo then Spartans. The Sangheili community has as much right to be represented in the games as the Spartan community. So, like Warthog, I am curious about you reasoning. (And the so called balancing issuse are not a good reason, the game is about fun not how well you can do in M.P.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Balancing is actually a huge reason to not include them if they really were to cause said issue, I however think they can easily work around that though.
> > > > >
> > > > > There are people who won’t have “fun” if a game is unbalanced.
> > > >
> > > > So true! And that’s what most of our conversations are for, to solutionize that! But if there are any flaws in the system we create or if there is any other system anyone else has, please post it, because I’d love to see the best way to add them! In fact! Anyone reading, if you ever have any ideas about that, please say so, or even for cosmetic, or even aiming at what they could add to elites if they are added back, because I don’t wanna leave out any good info!
> > >
> > > I just don’t know what to put for ground pound or stabilizer. Honestly, I could do without them, wouldn’t be a great loos for me, but I want to accommodate everyone’s wants I feel are reasonable.
> >
> > Ground pound man! Pound the ground! I mean, honestly It’d probably look weird but, you could always have a faster pound but not AOE! I mean, ground pound kills Spartans anyway, why not use an aged Reach tactic that Elites always had! Miniature energy swords in their wrists! The pound would propel much faster but there is no other damage, and you have to suffer a short killing animation where it would look something like Every Halo Reach Assassination - YouTube 5:51
> > Than again I’d just be making another assassination, goddamnit get someone else’s idea I’m useless haha! But cootos to you for making me search up and get all nostalgic for how I want Elite assassinations to be in the future, hahaha!
>
> What about something similar? A death from adove sort of deal. when ever your in an elevated position you have a choice to use it. You hit whatever button(s) and you target your adversary, your character activaits the energy daggers (may take a second)on their arm and jumps down stabbing the first enemy you targeted. Then after you dispose of them you can continue on, using your superior speed and agility to quickly close the gap between you and other enemies. once you reach them you simply hit the melee button to stab them. However the energy daggers die quickly, so you are limited to close targets and you slow back down to a more natural pace once they die. you only see this in first person (no special animation, just shows first person view of you stabbing them in the chest or back) and there is a short time before you can use it again. The trade offs between this and ground pound are you move much faster and only target one enemy at a time, where as with ground pound your a bit slow but can take out or stun many enemies with one strike. And for the spartans, this could be something they could choose to have, considering the alliance with the Swords. What do you and Chocolate think?

Oh really it’d be fabulous and the option bound render is good but it was just an idea and I’m glad you ran with it! While satisfying the game mechanic, I really think that it suited the Spartans that existed now, and it was a welcome mechanic to them, but I’m still just not sure if I can see an Elite doing it! That stabbing idea was the first thing I got and I’m not really ready to step on with it along with what I can imagine are elites taken out of Halo 5’s scenery. I am on the front however that if they would, these mechanics would be compensated somehow, just by changing up the animations a bit! I know I’m probably just being cynical on the fact that an elite would look weird doing it, and honestly, it might look cool, but with their statue, I’d imagine it’d be a whole different story! I thought however that maybe, were it to happen, lore would be drawn and the Elites would be given specific and engineered thrusters that would determine their ability to act just as Spartans would in the simulations. Running with that idea, I wouldn’t mind to run with Halo 5’s first person thruster, as well as Halo Reach’s evade that didn’t put you in third person when you used it, you know? It’d work just like that, and the only strange part is, the distance in which the Thruster “thrusts” is decently short, and I don’t know about you, but an elite rolling that distance would probably look more akin to a havel rock, fat rolling in Dark Souls! Reach’s armour abilities weren’t restrictive on that sort and allowed them to go that distance because it was an armour ability. Here however, I’m just not sure. You know what I would love though, An armour mod that would somehow make “Evade” useful in Warzone, hahahaha!
But anyway, yeah, I’m not entirely for the idea but thinkin about it now is probably the best way to solve it!

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“Will 343 ever add playable Elites back into halo? Or will the dreams of many proud warriors be crashed by the absence of there beloved species of choices…? Find out next time, on Halo ball z…”

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> > > > > > > > > over 800 pages long and still no playable elites smh
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yeah because elites suck and do not belong in matchmaking lmao
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That is your opinion. If you don’t like the feature, don’t use it. There is so much more to halo then Spartans. The Sangheili community has as much right to be represented in the games as the Spartan community. So, like Warthog, I am curious about you reasoning. (And the so called balancing issuse are not a good reason, the game is about fun not how well you can do in M.P.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Balancing is actually a huge reason to not include them if they really were to cause said issue, I however think they can easily work around that though.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There are people who won’t have “fun” if a game is unbalanced.
> > > > >
> > > > > So true! And that’s what most of our conversations are for, to solutionize that! But if there are any flaws in the system we create or if there is any other system anyone else has, please post it, because I’d love to see the best way to add them! In fact! Anyone reading, if you ever have any ideas about that, please say so, or even for cosmetic, or even aiming at what they could add to elites if they are added back, because I don’t wanna leave out any good info!
> > > >
> > > > I just don’t know what to put for ground pound or stabilizer. Honestly, I could do without them, wouldn’t be a great loos for me, but I want to accommodate everyone’s wants I feel are reasonable.
> > >
> > > Ground pound man! Pound the ground! I mean, honestly It’d probably look weird but, you could always have a faster pound but not AOE! I mean, ground pound kills Spartans anyway, why not use an aged Reach tactic that Elites always had! Miniature energy swords in their wrists! The pound would propel much faster but there is no other damage, and you have to suffer a short killing animation where it would look something like Every Halo Reach Assassination - YouTube 5:51
> > > Than again I’d just be making another assassination, goddamnit get someone else’s idea I’m useless haha! But cootos to you for making me search up and get all nostalgic for how I want Elite assassinations to be in the future, hahaha!
> >
> > What about something similar? A death from adove sort of deal. when ever your in an elevated position you have a choice to use it. You hit whatever button(s) and you target your adversary, your character activaits the energy daggers (may take a second)on their arm and jumps down stabbing the first enemy you targeted. Then after you dispose of them you can continue on, using your superior speed and agility to quickly close the gap between you and other enemies. once you reach them you simply hit the melee button to stab them. However the energy daggers die quickly, so you are limited to close targets and you slow back down to a more natural pace once they die. you only see this in first person (no special animation, just shows first person view of you stabbing them in the chest or back) and there is a short time before you can use it again. The trade offs between this and ground pound are you move much faster and only target one enemy at a time, where as with ground pound your a bit slow but can take out or stun many enemies with one strike. And for the spartans, this could be something they could choose to have, considering the alliance with the Swords. What do you and Chocolate think?
>
> Oh really it’d be fabulous and the option bound render is good but it was just an idea and I’m glad you ran with it! While satisfying the game mechanic, I really think that it suited the Spartans that existed now, and it was a welcome mechanic to them, but I’m still just not sure if I can see an Elite doing it! That stabbing idea was the first thing I got and I’m not really ready to step on with it along with what I can imagine are elites taken out of Halo 5’s scenery. I am on the front however that if they would, these mechanics would be compensated somehow, just by changing up the animations a bit! I know I’m probably just being cynical on the fact that an elite would look weird doing it, and honestly, it might look cool, but with their statue, I’d imagine it’d be a whole different story! I thought however that maybe, were it to happen, lore would be drawn and the Elites would be given specific and engineered thrusters that would determine their ability to act just as Spartans would in the simulations. Running with that idea, I wouldn’t mind to run with Halo 5’s first person thruster, as well as Halo Reach’s evade that didn’t put you in third person when you used it, you know? It’d work just like that, and the only strange part is, the distance in which the Thruster “thrusts” is decently short, and I don’t know about you, but an elite rolling that distance would probably look more akin to a havel rock, fat rolling in Dark Souls! Reach’s armour abilities weren’t restrictive on that sort and allowed them to go that distance because it was an armour ability. Here however, I’m just not sure. You know what I would love though, An armour mod that would somehow make “Evade” useful in Warzone, hahahaha!
> But anyway, yeah, I’m not entirely for the idea but thinkin about it now is probably the best way to solve it!

Ok, it was just a thought.

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SOS Sword Of Sanghelios

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Yes that is the abbreviated version of Swords of Sanghelios. It was kind of random to say though.

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> > > > > > > > > > over 800 pages long and still no playable elites smh
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yeah because elites suck and do not belong in matchmaking lmao
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That is your opinion. If you don’t like the feature, don’t use it. There is so much more to halo then Spartans. The Sangheili community has as much right to be represented in the games as the Spartan community. So, like Warthog, I am curious about you reasoning. (And the so called balancing issuse are not a good reason, the game is about fun not how well you can do in M.P.)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Balancing is actually a huge reason to not include them if they really were to cause said issue, I however think they can easily work around that though.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There are people who won’t have “fun” if a game is unbalanced.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So true! And that’s what most of our conversations are for, to solutionize that! But if there are any flaws in the system we create or if there is any other system anyone else has, please post it, because I’d love to see the best way to add them! In fact! Anyone reading, if you ever have any ideas about that, please say so, or even for cosmetic, or even aiming at what they could add to elites if they are added back, because I don’t wanna leave out any good info!
> > > > >
> > > > > I just don’t know what to put for ground pound or stabilizer. Honestly, I could do without them, wouldn’t be a great loos for me, but I want to accommodate everyone’s wants I feel are reasonable.
> > > >
> > > > Ground pound man! Pound the ground! I mean, honestly It’d probably look weird but, you could always have a faster pound but not AOE! I mean, ground pound kills Spartans anyway, why not use an aged Reach tactic that Elites always had! Miniature energy swords in their wrists! The pound would propel much faster but there is no other damage, and you have to suffer a short killing animation where it would look something like Every Halo Reach Assassination - YouTube 5:51
> > > > Than again I’d just be making another assassination, goddamnit get someone else’s idea I’m useless haha! But cootos to you for making me search up and get all nostalgic for how I want Elite assassinations to be in the future, hahaha!
> > >
> > > What about something similar? A death from adove sort of deal. when ever your in an elevated position you have a choice to use it. You hit whatever button(s) and you target your adversary, your character activaits the energy daggers (may take a second)on their arm and jumps down stabbing the first enemy you targeted. Then after you dispose of them you can continue on, using your superior speed and agility to quickly close the gap between you and other enemies. once you reach them you simply hit the melee button to stab them. However the energy daggers die quickly, so you are limited to close targets and you slow back down to a more natural pace once they die. you only see this in first person (no special animation, just shows first person view of you stabbing them in the chest or back) and there is a short time before you can use it again. The trade offs between this and ground pound are you move much faster and only target one enemy at a time, where as with ground pound your a bit slow but can take out or stun many enemies with one strike. And for the spartans, this could be something they could choose to have, considering the alliance with the Swords. What do you and Chocolate think?
> >
> > Oh really it’d be fabulous and the option bound render is good but it was just an idea and I’m glad you ran with it! While satisfying the game mechanic, I really think that it suited the Spartans that existed now, and it was a welcome mechanic to them, but I’m still just not sure if I can see an Elite doing it! That stabbing idea was the first thing I got and I’m not really ready to step on with it along with what I can imagine are elites taken out of Halo 5’s scenery. I am on the front however that if they would, these mechanics would be compensated somehow, just by changing up the animations a bit! I know I’m probably just being cynical on the fact that an elite would look weird doing it, and honestly, it might look cool, but with their statue, I’d imagine it’d be a whole different story! I thought however that maybe, were it to happen, lore would be drawn and the Elites would be given specific and engineered thrusters that would determine their ability to act just as Spartans would in the simulations. Running with that idea, I wouldn’t mind to run with Halo 5’s first person thruster, as well as Halo Reach’s evade that didn’t put you in third person when you used it, you know? It’d work just like that, and the only strange part is, the distance in which the Thruster “thrusts” is decently short, and I don’t know about you, but an elite rolling that distance would probably look more akin to a havel rock, fat rolling in Dark Souls! Reach’s armour abilities weren’t restrictive on that sort and allowed them to go that distance because it was an armour ability. Here however, I’m just not sure. You know what I would love though, An armour mod that would somehow make “Evade” useful in Warzone, hahahaha!
>
> Ok, it was just a thought.

Oh no! Don’t let me stop you man! I’m just a terrible person! I was just never in tune with anything on the front of Spartan Abilities, but they are awesome and I like the way they were executed, but truly I never belonged in anything like that you know? I encourage you to see to it there is away to include them, and include them creatively you know? I’m totally for that, last night I didn’t put that message across cause I was tired XD but today I can assure you that seeing it through that way is a beautiful idea, especially if were gonna have a beta for it! I’m on board for that, and even if ground pound is a more difficult subject, I wanna see how we’d Sanghelize the stabilizers, haha! Because sure enough if Ground Pound isn’t native, nor is that! I love it when you think when I can’t, hahah!

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> Yes that is the abbreviated version of Swords of Sanghelios. It was kind of random to say though.

Possibly just a reply that didn’t get quoted.

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> > > > > > > > > > > over 800 pages long and still no playable elites smh
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Yeah because elites suck and do not belong in matchmaking lmao
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > That is your opinion. If you don’t like the feature, don’t use it. There is so much more to halo then Spartans. The Sangheili community has as much right to be represented in the games as the Spartan community. So, like Warthog, I am curious about you reasoning. (And the so called balancing issuse are not a good reason, the game is about fun not how well you can do in M.P.)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Balancing is actually a huge reason to not include them if they really were to cause said issue, I however think they can easily work around that though.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There are people who won’t have “fun” if a game is unbalanced.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So true! And that’s what most of our conversations are for, to solutionize that! But if there are any flaws in the system we create or if there is any other system anyone else has, please post it, because I’d love to see the best way to add them! In fact! Anyone reading, if you ever have any ideas about that, please say so, or even for cosmetic, or even aiming at what they could add to elites if they are added back, because I don’t wanna leave out any good info!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just don’t know what to put for ground pound or stabilizer. Honestly, I could do without them, wouldn’t be a great loos for me, but I want to accommodate everyone’s wants I feel are reasonable.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ground pound man! Pound the ground! I mean, honestly It’d probably look weird but, you could always have a faster pound but not AOE! I mean, ground pound kills Spartans anyway, why not use an aged Reach tactic that Elites always had! Miniature energy swords in their wrists! The pound would propel much faster but there is no other damage, and you have to suffer a short killing animation where it would look something like Every Halo Reach Assassination - YouTube 5:51
> > > > > Than again I’d just be making another assassination, goddamnit get someone else’s idea I’m useless haha! But cootos to you for making me search up and get all nostalgic for how I want Elite assassinations to be in the future, hahaha!
> > > >
> > > > What about something similar? A death from adove sort of deal. when ever your in an elevated position you have a choice to use it. You hit whatever button(s) and you target your adversary, your character activaits the energy daggers (may take a second)on their arm and jumps down stabbing the first enemy you targeted. Then after you dispose of them you can continue on, using your superior speed and agility to quickly close the gap between you and other enemies. once you reach them you simply hit the melee button to stab them. However the energy daggers die quickly, so you are limited to close targets and you slow back down to a more natural pace once they die. you only see this in first person (no special animation, just shows first person view of you stabbing them in the chest or back) and there is a short time before you can use it again. The trade offs between this and ground pound are you move much faster and only target one enemy at a time, where as with ground pound your a bit slow but can take out or stun many enemies with one strike. And for the spartans, this could be something they could choose to have, considering the alliance with the Swords. What do you and Chocolate think?
> > >
> > > Oh really it’d be fabulous and the option bound render is good but it was just an idea and I’m glad you ran with it! While satisfying the game mechanic, I really think that it suited the Spartans that existed now, and it was a welcome mechanic to them, but I’m still just not sure if I can see an Elite doing it! That stabbing idea was the first thing I got and I’m not really ready to step on with it along with what I can imagine are elites taken out of Halo 5’s scenery. I am on the front however that if they would, these mechanics would be compensated somehow, just by changing up the animations a bit! I know I’m probably just being cynical on the fact that an elite would look weird doing it, and honestly, it might look cool, but with their statue, I’d imagine it’d be a whole different story! I thought however that maybe, were it to happen, lore would be drawn and the Elites would be given specific and engineered thrusters that would determine their ability to act just as Spartans would in the simulations. Running with that idea, I wouldn’t mind to run with Halo 5’s first person thruster, as well as Halo Reach’s evade that didn’t put you in third person when you used it, you know? It’d work just like that, and the only strange part is, the distance in which the Thruster “thrusts” is decently short, and I don’t know about you, but an elite rolling that distance would probably look more akin to a havel rock, fat rolling in Dark Souls! Reach’s armour abilities weren’t restrictive on that sort and allowed them to go that distance because it was an armour ability. Here however, I’m just not sure. You know what I would love though, An armour mod that would somehow make “Evade” useful in Warzone, hahahaha!
> >
> > Ok, it was just a thought.
>
> Oh no! Don’t let me stop you man! I’m just a terrible person! I was just never in tune with anything on the front of Spartan Abilities, but they are awesome and I like the way they were executed, but truly I never belonged in anything like that you know? I encourage you to see to it there is away to include them, and include them creatively you know? I’m totally for that, last night I didn’t put that message across cause I was tired XD but today I can assure you that seeing it through that way is a beautiful idea, especially if were gonna have a beta for it! I’m on board for that, and even if ground pound is a more difficult subject, I wanna see how we’d Sanghelize the stabilizers, haha! Because sure enough if Ground Pound isn’t native, nor is that! I love it when you think when I can’t, hahah!

Thank you and your not a terrible person man, that quite literally was just one idea I had. I like that thought of Sanghelizing the stabilizers or thrusters, they could make it work. But when I think thrusters and Sangheili the first thing that comes to mind are the Rangers. That’s kind of their thing you know? So I am just trying to think of things that don’t utilize thrusters for the other specialties or ranks. Actually, another idea I have (don’t think anyone has proposed it, could be wrong) is a personal rechargeable energy sword. You can activate it when you choose and it only last a short while (maybe only good for a few kills and always kills in one hit) then after a set short portion of time you can use it again ( this way you always have a sword). With this one you again get to move faster and only can go after a few close targets, but can use it anywhere. No need to be in an elevated position. Could use the daggers again for this or maybe a collapsible energy staff. I guess I’m a bit narrow minded with theses ideas. I just like the ability to use hand to hand weapons. To be honest, I don’t mind the Spartan abilities, but it wont upset me if they go.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > over 800 pages long and still no playable elites smh
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Yeah because elites suck and do not belong in matchmaking lmao
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > That is your opinion. If you don’t like the feature, don’t use it. There is so much more to halo then Spartans. The Sangheili community has as much right to be represented in the games as the Spartan community. So, like Warthog, I am curious about you reasoning. (And the so called balancing issuse are not a good reason, the game is about fun not how well you can do in M.P.)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Balancing is actually a huge reason to not include them if they really were to cause said issue, I however think they can easily work around that though.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > There are people who won’t have “fun” if a game is unbalanced.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So true! And that’s what most of our conversations are for, to solutionize that! But if there are any flaws in the system we create or if there is any other system anyone else has, please post it, because I’d love to see the best way to add them! In fact! Anyone reading, if you ever have any ideas about that, please say so, or even for cosmetic, or even aiming at what they could add to elites if they are added back, because I don’t wanna leave out any good info!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I just don’t know what to put for ground pound or stabilizer. Honestly, I could do without them, wouldn’t be a great loos for me, but I want to accommodate everyone’s wants I feel are reasonable.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ground pound man! Pound the ground! I mean, honestly It’d probably look weird but, you could always have a faster pound but not AOE! I mean, ground pound kills Spartans anyway, why not use an aged Reach tactic that Elites always had! Miniature energy swords in their wrists! The pound would propel much faster but there is no other damage, and you have to suffer a short killing animation where it would look something like Every Halo Reach Assassination - YouTube 5:51
> > > > > > Than again I’d just be making another assassination, goddamnit get someone else’s idea I’m useless haha! But cootos to you for making me search up and get all nostalgic for how I want Elite assassinations to be in the future, hahaha!
> > > > >
> > > > > What about something similar? A death from adove sort of deal. when ever your in an elevated position you have a choice to use it. You hit whatever button(s) and you target your adversary, your character activaits the energy daggers (may take a second)on their arm and jumps down stabbing the first enemy you targeted. Then after you dispose of them you can continue on, using your superior speed and agility to quickly close the gap between you and other enemies. once you reach them you simply hit the melee button to stab them. However the energy daggers die quickly, so you are limited to close targets and you slow back down to a more natural pace once they die. you only see this in first person (no special animation, just shows first person view of you stabbing them in the chest or back) and there is a short time before you can use it again. The trade offs between this and ground pound are you move much faster and only target one enemy at a time, where as with ground pound your a bit slow but can take out or stun many enemies with one strike. And for the spartans, this could be something they could choose to have, considering the alliance with the Swords. What do you and Chocolate think?
> > > >
> > > > Oh really it’d be fabulous and the option bound render is good but it was just an idea and I’m glad you ran with it! While satisfying the game mechanic, I really think that it suited the Spartans that existed now, and it was a welcome mechanic to them, but I’m still just not sure if I can see an Elite doing it! That stabbing idea was the first thing I got and I’m not really ready to step on with it along with what I can imagine are elites taken out of Halo 5’s scenery. I am on the front however that if they would, these mechanics would be compensated somehow, just by changing up the animations a bit! I know I’m probably just being cynical on the fact that an elite would look weird doing it, and honestly, it might look cool, but with their statue, I’d imagine it’d be a whole different story! I thought however that maybe, were it to happen, lore would be drawn and the Elites would be given specific and engineered thrusters that would determine their ability to act just as Spartans would in the simulations. Running with that idea, I wouldn’t mind to run with Halo 5’s first person thruster, as well as Halo Reach’s evade that didn’t put you in third person when you used it, you know? It’d work just like that, and the only strange part is, the distance in which the Thruster “thrusts” is decently short, and I don’t know about you, but an elite rolling that distance would probably look more akin to a havel rock, fat rolling in Dark Souls! Reach’s armour abilities weren’t restrictive on that sort and allowed them to go that distance because it was an armour ability. Here however, I’m just not sure. You know what I would love though, An armour mod that would somehow make “Evade” useful in Warzone, hahahaha!

Dude! Dude Dude Dude! I have resisted those ideas from my mind because I know that anything that isn’t balanced will “ruin everything” but I have to say that things like this should not be thrown in the trash, because they are nice ideas! They give me an awesome Overwatch vibe that many have given me from the roles that oddly fit really nice together, from the covenant, to the prometheans, to the UNSC, things like Grunts, Jackals, and Hunters being playable (here me out on this one) with that sort of scenic vibe to them, and as much as I agreed with the fact that we shouldn’t make it “Halowatch”, its nice to think about, for any sake.
Elites though, they have a fitting and they deserve to be here, and there is no excuse having lasted 3 games with them! Ways to incorporate them into this environment could be scarce but I like anything to graze thought, energy blade is a beautiful idea, if, and hear me out again, they are like energy swords, that would have that special tactic that Elites back in Reach used! They were smaller and they appeared in both hands. But maybe Technology has spurted a little, and I know it hasn’t because this is a Warzone simulator, but were it so easy! One stab from either hand, removing the sword from either hand, and each jab would have be equivalent to a shield break, and the basic part of it, is that this would speed up the Elites melee speed, including these small energy blades, and even though that system would seem complicated, it would just be complementing the melee system, in it that it could be used to take out certain targets rather than entire teams.
OR, having a time based one, like you said, that would run it for that amount of time, executable against as many targets within that timeframe!
It could be thrown around many different ways, and its all to be creative right? To have an edge that would sound cool, look cool, and play balanced, without making them look derpy with that Ground pound, which I do think would look weird on the elite part! balancing them with certain other abilities would be pretty nice, but this is only a thought, if anyone else has an idea, post it! Love to see any!

(Also sorry I had to delete your post man! I write too much! XD)

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > over 800 pages long and still no playable elites smh
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah because elites suck and do not belong in matchmaking lmao
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > That is your opinion. If you don’t like the feature, don’t use it. There is so much more to halo then Spartans. The Sangheili community has as much right to be represented in the games as the Spartan community. So, like Warthog, I am curious about you reasoning. (And the so called balancing issuse are not a good reason, the game is about fun not how well you can do in M.P.)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Balancing is actually a huge reason to not include them if they really were to cause said issue, I however think they can easily work around that though.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > There are people who won’t have “fun” if a game is unbalanced.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So true! And that’s what most of our conversations are for, to solutionize that! But if there are any flaws in the system we create or if there is any other system anyone else has, please post it, because I’d love to see the best way to add them! In fact! Anyone reading, if you ever have any ideas about that, please say so, or even for cosmetic, or even aiming at what they could add to elites if they are added back, because I don’t wanna leave out any good info!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I just don’t know what to put for ground pound or stabilizer. Honestly, I could do without them, wouldn’t be a great loos for me, but I want to accommodate everyone’s wants I feel are reasonable.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ground pound man! Pound the ground! I mean, honestly It’d probably look weird but, you could always have a faster pound but not AOE! I mean, ground pound kills Spartans anyway, why not use an aged Reach tactic that Elites always had! Miniature energy swords in their wrists! The pound would propel much faster but there is no other damage, and you have to suffer a short killing animation where it would look something like Every Halo Reach Assassination - YouTube 5:51
> > > > > > > Than again I’d just be making another assassination, goddamnit get someone else’s idea I’m useless haha! But cootos to you for making me search up and get all nostalgic for how I want Elite assassinations to be in the future, hahaha!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What about something similar? A death from adove sort of deal. when ever your in an elevated position you have a choice to use it. You hit whatever button(s) and you target your adversary, your character activaits the energy daggers (may take a second)on their arm and jumps down stabbing the first enemy you targeted. Then after you dispose of them you can continue on, using your superior speed and agility to quickly close the gap between you and other enemies. once you reach them you simply hit the melee button to stab them. However the energy daggers die quickly, so you are limited to close targets and you slow back down to a more natural pace once they die. you only see this in first person (no special animation, just shows first person view of you stabbing them in the chest or back) and there is a short time before you can use it again. The trade offs between this and ground pound are you move much faster and only target one enemy at a time, where as with ground pound your a bit slow but can take out or stun many enemies with one strike. And for the spartans, this could be something they could choose to have, considering the alliance with the Swords. What do you and Chocolate think?
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh really it’d be fabulous and the option bound render is good but it was just an idea and I’m glad you ran with it! While satisfying the game mechanic, I really think that it suited the Spartans that existed now, and it was a welcome mechanic to them, but I’m still just not sure if I can see an Elite doing it! That stabbing idea was the first thing I got and I’m not really ready to step on with it along with what I can imagine are elites taken out of Halo 5’s scenery. I am on the front however that if they would, these mechanics would be compensated somehow, just by changing up the animations a bit! I know I’m probably just being cynical on the fact that an elite would look weird doing it, and honestly, it might look cool, but with their statue, I’d imagine it’d be a whole different story! I thought however that maybe, were it to happen, lore would be drawn and the Elites would be given specific and engineered thrusters that would determine their ability to act just as Spartans would in the simulations. Running with that idea, I wouldn’t mind to run with Halo 5’s first person thruster, as well as Halo Reach’s evade that didn’t put you in third person when you used it, you know? It’d work just like that, and the only strange part is, the distance in which the Thruster “thrusts” is decently short, and I don’t know about you, but an elite rolling that distance would probably look more akin to a havel rock, fat rolling in Dark Souls! Reach’s armour abilities weren’t restrictive on that sort and allowed them to go that distance because it was an armour ability. Here however, I’m just not sure. You know what I would love though, An armour mod that would somehow make “Evade” useful in Warzone, hahahaha!
>
> Dude! Dude Dude Dude! I have resisted those ideas from my mind because I know that anything that isn’t balanced will “ruin everything” but I have to say that things like this should not be thrown in the trash, because they are nice ideas! They give me an awesome Overwatch vibe that many have given me from the roles that oddly fit really nice together, from the covenant, to the prometheans, to the UNSC, things like Grunts, Jackals, and Hunters being playable (here me out on this one) with that sort of scenic vibe to them, and as much as I agreed with the fact that we shouldn’t make it “Halowatch”, its nice to think about, for any sake.
> Elites though, they have a fitting and they deserve to be here, and there is no excuse having lasted 3 games with them! Ways to incorporate them into this environment could be scarce but I like anything to graze thought, energy blade is a beautiful idea, if, and hear me out again, they are like energy swords, that would have that special tactic that Elites back in Reach used! They were smaller and they appeared in both hands. But maybe Technology has spurted a little, and I know it hasn’t because this is a Warzone simulator, but were it so easy! One stab from either hand, removing the sword from either hand, and each jab would have be equivalent to a shield break, and the basic part of it, is that this would speed up the Elites melee speed, including these small energy blades, and even though that system would seem complicated, it would just be complementing the melee system, in it that it could be used to take out certain targets rather than entire teams.
> OR, having a time based one, like you said, that would run it for that amount of time, executable against as many targets within that timeframe!
> It could be thrown around many different ways, and its all to be creative right? To have an edge that would sound cool, look cool, and play balanced, without making them look derpy with that Ground pound, which I do think would look weird on the elite part! balancing them with certain other abilities would be pretty nice, but this is only a thought, if anyone else has an idea, post it! Love to see any!
>
> (Also sorry I had to delete your post man! I write too much! XD)

All is good. I like the ideas. In the end I am pritty open minded, I will be happy as long as the game is fun, involves everyone, and has the good story halo is knowen for, as well as playable elites. many eather hate or love the abilities, I’m in the middle.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > over 800 pages long and still no playable elites smh
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah because elites suck and do not belong in matchmaking lmao
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > That is your opinion. If you don’t like the feature, don’t use it. There is so much more to halo then Spartans. The Sangheili community has as much right to be represented in the games as the Spartan community. So, like Warthog, I am curious about you reasoning. (And the so called balancing issuse are not a good reason, the game is about fun not how well you can do in M.P.)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Balancing is actually a huge reason to not include them if they really were to cause said issue, I however think they can easily work around that though.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > There are people who won’t have “fun” if a game is unbalanced.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So true! And that’s what most of our conversations are for, to solutionize that! But if there are any flaws in the system we create or if there is any other system anyone else has, please post it, because I’d love to see the best way to add them! In fact! Anyone reading, if you ever have any ideas about that, please say so, or even for cosmetic, or even aiming at what they could add to elites if they are added back, because I don’t wanna leave out any good info!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I just don’t know what to put for ground pound or stabilizer. Honestly, I could do without them, wouldn’t be a great loos for me, but I want to accommodate everyone’s wants I feel are reasonable.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ground pound man! Pound the ground! I mean, honestly It’d probably look weird but, you could always have a faster pound but not AOE! I mean, ground pound kills Spartans anyway, why not use an aged Reach tactic that Elites always had! Miniature energy swords in their wrists! The pound would propel much faster but there is no other damage, and you have to suffer a short killing animation where it would look something like Every Halo Reach Assassination - YouTube 5:51
> > > > > > > Than again I’d just be making another assassination, goddamnit get someone else’s idea I’m useless haha! But cootos to you for making me search up and get all nostalgic for how I want Elite assassinations to be in the future, hahaha!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What about something similar? A death from adove sort of deal. when ever your in an elevated position you have a choice to use it. You hit whatever button(s) and you target your adversary, your character activaits the energy daggers (may take a second)on their arm and jumps down stabbing the first enemy you targeted. Then after you dispose of them you can continue on, using your superior speed and agility to quickly close the gap between you and other enemies. once you reach them you simply hit the melee button to stab them. However the energy daggers die quickly, so you are limited to close targets and you slow back down to a more natural pace once they die. you only see this in first person (no special animation, just shows first person view of you stabbing them in the chest or back) and there is a short time before you can use it again. The trade offs between this and ground pound are you move much faster and only target one enemy at a time, where as with ground pound your a bit slow but can take out or stun many enemies with one strike. And for the spartans, this could be something they could choose to have, considering the alliance with the Swords. What do you and Chocolate think?
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh really it’d be fabulous and the option bound render is good but it was just an idea and I’m glad you ran with it! While satisfying the game mechanic, I really think that it suited the Spartans that existed now, and it was a welcome mechanic to them, but I’m still just not sure if I can see an Elite doing it! That stabbing idea was the first thing I got and I’m not really ready to step on with it along with what I can imagine are elites taken out of Halo 5’s scenery. I am on the front however that if they would, these mechanics would be compensated somehow, just by changing up the animations a bit! I know I’m probably just being cynical on the fact that an elite would look weird doing it, and honestly, it might look cool, but with their statue, I’d imagine it’d be a whole different story! I thought however that maybe, were it to happen, lore would be drawn and the Elites would be given specific and engineered thrusters that would determine their ability to act just as Spartans would in the simulations. Running with that idea, I wouldn’t mind to run with Halo 5’s first person thruster, as well as Halo Reach’s evade that didn’t put you in third person when you used it, you know? It’d work just like that, and the only strange part is, the distance in which the Thruster “thrusts” is decently short, and I don’t know about you, but an elite rolling that distance would probably look more akin to a havel rock, fat rolling in Dark Souls! Reach’s armour abilities weren’t restrictive on that sort and allowed them to go that distance because it was an armour ability. Here however, I’m just not sure. You know what I would love though, An armour mod that would somehow make “Evade” useful in Warzone, hahahaha!
>
> Dude! Dude Dude Dude! I have resisted those ideas from my mind because I know that anything that isn’t balanced will “ruin everything” but I have to say that things like this should not be thrown in the trash, because they are nice ideas! They give me an awesome Overwatch vibe that many have given me from the roles that oddly fit really nice together, from the covenant, to the prometheans, to the UNSC, things like Grunts, Jackals, and Hunters being playable (here me out on this one) with that sort of scenic vibe to them, and as much as I agreed with the fact that we shouldn’t make it “Halowatch”, its nice to think about, for any sake.
> Elites though, they have a fitting and they deserve to be here, and there is no excuse having lasted 3 games with them! Ways to incorporate them into this environment could be scarce but I like anything to graze thought, energy blade is a beautiful idea, if, and hear me out again, they are like energy swords, that would have that special tactic that Elites back in Reach used! They were smaller and they appeared in both hands. But maybe Technology has spurted a little, and I know it hasn’t because this is a Warzone simulator, but were it so easy! One stab from either hand, removing the sword from either hand, and each jab would have be equivalent to a shield break, and the basic part of it, is that this would speed up the Elites melee speed, including these small energy blades, and even though that system would seem complicated, it would just be complementing the melee system, in it that it could be used to take out certain targets rather than entire teams.
> OR, having a time based one, like you said, that would run it for that amount of time, executable against as many targets within that timeframe!
> It could be thrown around many different ways, and its all to be creative right? To have an edge that would sound cool, look cool, and play balanced, without making them look derpy with that Ground pound, which I do think would look weird on the elite part! balancing them with certain other abilities would be pretty nice, but this is only a thought, if anyone else has an idea, post it! Love to see any!

I just want to remind you guys that the whole “every Playable Sangheili having an energy sword” thing wouldn’t work since not all Ranks of the Sangheili are permitted to wield a sword. Also, the wrist things you’re thinking of from Reach are called energy daggers.

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(In respons to Chocolateray618) It was just a thought that sounded cool to me. I know that not all ranks are allowed to wield energy swords. Thank you for the reminder, though.

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There’s no excuse 343, make Elites playable again. Now before everyone jumps on the bandwagon, “but their too big” and all that other hitbox non-sense, let me add that 343 has full control over any lore, gameplay or fiction reason as to why something may or may not happen. And considering that 343 will bend the lore and add things so that the ideas they implement make sense, I don’t see it impossible for them to implement if they really wanted. Now for any of you saying that the Elites could not use Spartan abilities, this is false, what are Spartan abilities but enhancements of default gameplay mechanics, I am certain a Elite can sprint, clamber, aim, and slide. And I am positive their are Elites that have thrusters build into their combat harnesses, and if not, then they could easily have them integrated into them while they work with Spartans. Then they could thrust, stabilize and groundpound and have a lore reason behind it. So their is no reason(other than name) they can’t use them. Now as for the model, 343 has made how many different species of Grunts, Jackals, Brutes, Elites ect. that all have very different characteristics from the ones we have seen in past halos, how hard would it be for them to create a species of Elites that are smaller than the others, heck they could make the Halo 2 anniversary Elites (the ones with tiny toes) this version of smaller Elites that would either be on-par with humans in size or on-par with Spartan IV’s, either way if they are too big, 343 could make reasons for them to be the same size as Spartan IV’s.So with that out of the way, please 343 make them playable again, you and on you are stopping them from doing so.

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> There’s no excuse 343, make Elites playable again. Now before everyone jumps on the bandwagon, “but their too big” and all that other hitbox non-sense, let me add that 343 has full control over any lore, gameplay or fiction reason as to why something may or may not happen. And considering that 343 will bend the lore and add things so that the ideas they implement make sense, I don’t see it impossible for them to implement if they really wanted. Now for any of you saying that the Elites could not use Spartan abilities, this is false, what are Spartan abilities but enhancements of default gameplay mechanics, I am certain a Elite can sprint, clamber, aim, and slide. And I am positive their are Elites that have thrusters build into their combat harnesses, and if not, then they could easily have them integrated into them while they work with Spartans. Then they could thrust, stabilize and groundpound and have a lore reason behind it. So their is no reason(other than name) they can’t use them. Now as for the model, 343 has made how many different species of Grunts, Jackals, Brutes, Elites ect. that all have very different characteristics from the ones we have seen in past halos, how hard would it be for them to create a species of Elites that are smaller than the others, heck they could make the Halo 2 anniversary Elites (the ones with tiny toes) this version of smaller Elites that would either be on-par with humans in size or on-par with Spartan IV’s, either way if they are too big, 343 could make reasons for them to be the same size as Spartan IV’s.So with that out of the way, please 343 make them playable again, you and on you are stopping them from doing so.

You would think after 804 pages they would add them but…

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we need elites back, who cares about balance, just make it fun. Halo 3 was super competitive in the ranked playlists and people were allowed to play as elites there. So why not bring them back. It would make so many fans happy.

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Elites were playable before, they should still be playable now. Bring back the ability to play as Elites 343.

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> There’s no excuse 343, make Elites playable again. Now before everyone jumps on the bandwagon, “but their too big” and all that other hitbox non-sense, let me add that 343 has full control over any lore, gameplay or fiction reason as to why something may or may not happen. And considering that 343 will bend the lore and add things so that the ideas they implement make sense, I don’t see it impossible for them to implement if they really wanted. Now for any of you saying that the Elites could not use Spartan abilities, this is false, what are Spartan abilities but enhancements of default gameplay mechanics, I am certain a Elite can sprint, clamber, aim, and slide. And I am positive their are Elites that have thrusters build into their combat harnesses, and if not, then they could easily have them integrated into them while they work with Spartans. Then they could thrust, stabilize and groundpound and have a lore reason behind it. So their is no reason(other than name) they can’t use them. Now as for the model, 343 has made how many different species of Grunts, Jackals, Brutes, Elites ect. that all have very different characteristics from the ones we have seen in past halos, how hard would it be for them to create a species of Elites that are smaller than the others, heck they could make the Halo 2 anniversary Elites (the ones with tiny toes) this version of smaller Elites that would either be on-par with humans in size or on-par with Spartan IV’s, either way if they are too big, 343 could make reasons for them to be the same size as Spartan IV’s.So with that out of the way, please 343 make them playable again, you and on you are stopping them from doing so.

H2A multy élite or the H2A story élite?