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> > > > > You know in all other fps titles the only option ive got is human. Every now and then if we do get an option its either robots or animal like characters. Robots are boring for a reason, theres no connection between the player and their avatar. Theres a reason armor customization is prefered, over “everyone look the same.”, it is part of why the black undersuit thing is so prevalent. Even those extremely rare cases like that gorilla in overwatch, the character might as well be human. The only reason we even get those is because that’s apparently the default when one runs out of ideas. Robots and animals.
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> > > > > Halo had something unique, it stood out because it wasnt afraid to have something not seen since, a unique player race in a fps title. How many modern shooters can you think of that have a non human option? Are they all one off characters or robots? Yes? I thought so. And no zombies are the ultimate cop out. Halo had no equivalent when it comes to this. Its unique, it makes it stand out, that makes it diffrent from all the other fps titles alone.
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> > > > > This is kind of like Halo’s art style. Even though Bungie went for a more scifi look and 343’s art team went with realistic both are perfect as they are not afraid to use every color in the crayon box, even the unpopular colors. Compare that to every other big ticket fps since 2001. How many don’t have a color palette consisting of only brown, grey, and black? How many have pink guns by default? None? Thought so. Just like this art style have you really seen anything like multiplayer elites?
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> > > > > We just want halo to embrace the fact that it is and has been a snowflake among AAA fps titles. Its an arena shooter (not many of those around) that is colorful (a extreme rareity among fps titles) and has a unique player race that isn’t a class (halo is the only example of this). We’d just like to see that part of it return.
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> > > > > 343 you added social to what we’ve been calling “too competitive” since launch. You see how we reacted to that, and still are. While this is bigger than the black undersuits it is far smaller than adding social, please add mp elites in general mp. If not h5 then please in h6. You’d see us party here like its 1999.
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> > > > > If anyone at 343 is reading this please dont dismiss this as “that annoying thread” and ignore his. We’ve been asking for this every day since spring 2012, and at every Q&A since pre H4 for a reason. Please dont ignore us. If youre looking for user feedback then waypoint’s single largest and oldest thread should count right?
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> > > > You must not play many games then. Quake (a game in the 90s) was a fps that let you play a variety of characters from humans, aliens, robot/humans, ect ect. Some of the aliens vs predators games ( which are AWFUL games!) let you play as aliens, Evolve(a newer game) is a fps letting players be an alien and fight them, there’s also doom (more like demons but still “alien” to human nature) that let you play as non humans. Here’s my question tho, why are elites or any non human race special to begin with? I don’t see many games makeing playable characters that aren’t bipeds which really ruins the “unique” feeling when a non human character is still a biped but with a skin to it, it’s still going to play just as a human would. It’s something very few games do as it complicates things in the devs side and it’s just a lot more efficient to stick to biped models. I could see playable elites being unique if they weren’t just a human with a skin to them, but they happen to be just that.
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> > > > playable alien characters aren’t special anymore because devs don’t take that chance to expand on them anymore and now in the 2010s many games do have playable aliens whether it be fps or rpg or any other genre. Halo never started that “first game let alone fps to have playable aliens”. I disagree when people say halo made it unique when others before it did have them among animals, robots, demons, ect ect. I’d agree with you if games didn’t use different skins on bipeds, but being how so many games do it I can’t, and you can’t exclude animals or robots as they’re the same as an alien skin to them. All are bipeds, all play the same as a human character would, not many try to differntiate human play from the alien.
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> > > Quake is pre hce. I was specificly referring to modern aaa fps titles. Of course you can find a million and a half examples if i dont include those conditions.
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> > > Among modern aaa titles halo is a snowflake. Battlefield, CoD, Destiny, ect. Have nothing like MP elites.
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> > > Now again name a modern aaa fps title with a alternate player race that isn’t a race.
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> > Doom and evolve are both games that have playable aliens and demons. I mentioned current and pre halo just an FYI. What’s funny is you mentioning me to name current games, halo no longer features aliens which really just making evolve more of a snowflake over halo, that’s if one sees a race as what defines a game from others which I personally don’t. What would help the case is if playable elites actually differed from Spartans which they’ve never done yet. Both are bipeds that play the same.
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> > sorry, but having elites won’t make halo different than others in the market.
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> C’mon guys why sit and argue the validity of having them when they provide a worthily amazing customization option to supply as a whole! Why leave them out to a series that has had them for many games until now, when ignoring the community for one title was rational. Having them back would rekindle the flame of lost faith that I had to participate in, a loss of trust, which is coming back to bite me now with this new fantastic update, adding everything that everyone’s been yearning for!
> The deal seal, would be playable elites, only than will I, and many others have trust in 343 for future Halo.
> But there is an inclusion for those who, for some reason, don’t want them back at all for the purpose of multiplayer, Reach did it perfectly, and that would serve as an example for that same inclusion, that 343 would, by nature, improve on and make amazing for everyone!
> Elites should return playable in their greatest form, for the potentially amazing customization that was lost in 4! Couldn’t you guys think of the voice lines on the battlefield, classic Elite banter, unique assassinations, MORE assassinations to come!
> And don’t even get me started on Machinimas! haha!
Don’t think we were arguing on not having them, I don’t mind and actually have/do supportedsupport it. I do however don’t see them as a defining feature to the game which was my argument point.
if it was me, simply adding in a playable race isn’t enough to have faith in an incompetent dev that simply sucks at making great gameplay as well as ignoring most of the community, not to mention this specific issue is 4 years? My response would be “about damn time” but I wouldn’t have faith or trust. That’s like my GF asking me to do something and I do it two months later, she isn’t going to be grateful for something that should’ve been done a long time ago, it’s good that it got done in the end, but I shouldn’t expect a thank you on it.