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> > > > > > > > @sniper945
> > > > > > > > Boi you calling halo 4/5 elites ugly? 3:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes, yes I am.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nothing compared to the beauty of the old guys lol
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There will never be a better Sangheili model then pre halo 4.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Halo 3 specifically. People always go on about how the H2A elites were perfect… for the most part I agree but the head of the H2A elites kill the whole design for me.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > BLASPHEMY! The face is the best part, no longer are we subject to eyes that cant look past the helmet, or just straight up look at opposing walls, mandibles that look like they barely function, or designs inside the armor that make the whole figure look silly. Then, with the Halo 3 elites as a whole, they back is hunched over in a way that it makes them look like they can barely hold their head up. H2A will stick with me as the best design, with Reach following close behind.
> > > >
> > > > lol, just realized you posted this three days ago but whatever.
> > >
> > >
> > > Blasphemy! H2A elites have the angle of the head all wrong!
> >
> >
> > Tell that to these Noble Warriors.
>
>
> The angle of the head still ruins it. I don’t want the elite head facing straight. I want it like This at an angle
Could it be that Elites in earlier games were portrayed as more hunched forward as it looks like a more “combat ready” stance? Now that animations (like everything in games now) are a lot more expansive and can support a more dynamic range of poses?
I’d argue that it is more of a tech thing, and perhaps newer models rig better in that stance. Either way, it wouldn’t be hard to to get someone to write the tech to batch edit the rotation of the neck bone across multiple animations (in theory).
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> I would have to say I enjoy all of them fairly well. I used to dislike the new look for the Sangheili, but I grew fond of it as I looked at it more often. It just seems to fit in my eyes, looks like they can actually hold something in their mouth now rather than just dropping everything. Though the old look for the Sangheili has it’s own appeal as well!
My only complaint about the design used in 4/5 is the armor. I’d much rather we see fully armored Halo Reach era elites or the all armored except head from Halo 1-3.
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> > > > > > > > > @sniper945
> > > > > > > > > Boi you calling halo 4/5 elites ugly? 3:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yes, yes I am.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Nothing compared to the beauty of the old guys lol
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There will never be a better Sangheili model then pre halo 4.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Halo 3 specifically. People always go on about how the H2A elites were perfect… for the most part I agree but the head of the H2A elites kill the whole design for me.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > BLASPHEMY! The face is the best part, no longer are we subject to eyes that cant look past the helmet, or just straight up look at opposing walls, mandibles that look like they barely function, or designs inside the armor that make the whole figure look silly. Then, with the Halo 3 elites as a whole, they back is hunched over in a way that it makes them look like they can barely hold their head up. H2A will stick with me as the best design, with Reach following close behind.
> > > > >
> > > > > lol, just realized you posted this three days ago but whatever.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Blasphemy! H2A elites have the angle of the head all wrong!
> > >
> > >
> > > Tell that to these Noble Warriors.
> >
> >
> > The angle of the head still ruins it. I don’t want the elite head facing straight. I want it like This at an angle
>
>
> Could it be that Elites in earlier games were portrayed as more hunched forward as it looks like a more “combat ready” stance? Now that animations (like everything in games now) are a lot more expansive and can support a more dynamic range of poses?
>
> I’d argue that it is more of a tech thing, and perhaps newer models rig better in that stance. Either way, it wouldn’t be hard to to get someone to write the tech to batch edit the rotation of the neck bone across multiple animations (in theory).
Sounds like it could be possible, and I’m willing to bet that Halo 1 did a similar thing that the Mass Effect series did with aliens using the skeleton designed for humans and then manipulated to create elites. I’m also willing to bet that Halo 4/5 uses a unique skeleton rather than a modified Spartan one for Elites and that may be a reason we don’t have them in multiplayer (aside from multiplayer being the now canon wargames simulation).
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> > I would have to say I enjoy all of them fairly well. I used to dislike the new look for the Sangheili, but I grew fond of it as I looked at it more often. It just seems to fit in my eyes, looks like they can actually hold something in their mouth now rather than just dropping everything. Though the old look for the Sangheili has it’s own appeal as well!
>
>
> My only complaint about the design used in 4/5 is the armor. I’d much rather we see fully armored Halo Reach era elites or the all armored except head from Halo 1-3.
Halo 4-5 elites are, just ugly as sin… that’s what 343 wanted, they wanted them to be ugly because there not our friends… nor are they bungies era elites, they have the freedom to do what they would like with the style.
They don’t look right for the sos, but there ‘okay’ for jul.
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> > > > > > > > > > @sniper945
> > > > > > > > > > Boi you calling halo 4/5 elites ugly? 3:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yes, yes I am.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Nothing compared to the beauty of the old guys lol
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There will never be a better Sangheili model then pre halo 4.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Halo 3 specifically. People always go on about how the H2A elites were perfect… for the most part I agree but the head of the H2A elites kill the whole design for me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BLASPHEMY! The face is the best part, no longer are we subject to eyes that cant look past the helmet, or just straight up look at opposing walls, mandibles that look like they barely function, or designs inside the armor that make the whole figure look silly. Then, with the Halo 3 elites as a whole, they back is hunched over in a way that it makes them look like they can barely hold their head up. H2A will stick with me as the best design, with Reach following close behind.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > lol, just realized you posted this three days ago but whatever.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Blasphemy! H2A elites have the angle of the head all wrong!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Tell that to these Noble Warriors.
> > >
> > >
> > > The angle of the head still ruins it. I don’t want the elite head facing straight. I want it like This at an angle
> >
> >
> > Could it be that Elites in earlier games were portrayed as more hunched forward as it looks like a more “combat ready” stance? Now that animations (like everything in games now) are a lot more expansive and can support a more dynamic range of poses?
> >
> > I’d argue that it is more of a tech thing, and perhaps newer models rig better in that stance. Either way, it wouldn’t be hard to to get someone to write the tech to batch edit the rotation of the neck bone across multiple animations (in theory).
>
>
> Sounds like it could be possible, and I’m willing to bet that Halo 1 did a similar thing that the Mass Effect series did with aliens using the skeleton designed for humans and then manipulated to create elites. I’m also willing to bet that Halo 4/5 uses a unique skeleton rather than a modified Spartan one for Elites and that may be a reason we don’t have them in multiplayer (aside from multiplayer being the now canon wargames simulation).
Sounds about right. Small companies need to find creative solutions to fix problems and reduce workload. Making a game like Halo is a massive undertaking.
I’d argue though, that the core reason we don’t have Elites in matchmaking is 343’s adamant narrative focus on Spartan IV’s.
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> > > I would have to say I enjoy all of them fairly well. I used to dislike the new look for the Sangheili, but I grew fond of it as I looked at it more often. It just seems to fit in my eyes, looks like they can actually hold something in their mouth now rather than just dropping everything. Though the old look for the Sangheili has it’s own appeal as well!
> >
> >
> > My only complaint about the design used in 4/5 is the armor. I’d much rather we see fully armored Halo Reach era elites or the all armored except head from Halo 1-3.
>
>
> Halo 4-5 elites are, just ugly as sin… that’s what 343 wanted, they wanted them to be ugly because there not our friends… nor are they bungies era elites, they have the freedom to do what they would like with the style.
>
> They don’t look right for the sos, but there ‘okay’ for jul.
Ehh, overall you either like it or don’t. It’s fine whether you enjoy the look or don’t, it leads to discussion and whatnot and that’s great.
at least the h4/5 elites despite being “ugly” have more expression than the reach elites. (that and they don’t have a permanent smile stuck on their face)
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> at least the h4/5 elites despite being “ugly” have more expression than the reach elites. (that and they don’t have a permanent smile stuck on their face)
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> > at least the h4/5 elites despite being “ugly” have more expression than the reach elites. (that and they don’t have a permanent smile stuck on their face)
>
>
> Smile Away!
So it seems yet again another Sangheili Themed Update, and it’s supposed to be “Huge”. What makes it huge? The new Forge Objects, the new forge map, or are we getting what we have been wanting for so long?
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> So it seems yet again another Sangheili Themed Update, and it’s supposed to be “Huge”. What makes it huge? The new Forge Objects, the new forge map, or are we getting what we have been wanting for so long?
It’s not gonna happen… we must accept that 343 are making jrashta decisions.
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> > So it seems yet again another Sangheili Themed Update, and it’s supposed to be “Huge”. What makes it huge? The new Forge Objects, the new forge map, or are we getting what we have been wanting for so long?
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> It’s not gonna happen… we must accept that 343 are making jrashta decisions.
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> > > halo 6 is our last hope.
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> >
> > I wish I shared your optimism.
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>
> Just remember…
>
> We’re not out of this yet…
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>
> We can still destroy the enemy core…
> Those words inspire legends…
Elites never die, there just missing in multiplayer.
