Sangheili (Elites) In New Trilogy Matchmaking (Part 1)

Putting aside warzone firefight and Spartan ops, the main reason 343 doesn’t add elites is because VERY FEW people play as them online

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> Putting aside warzone firefight and Spartan ops, the main reason 343 doesn’t add elites is because VERY FEW people play as them online

Thats not true at all. Tens of thousands is not very few

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> Thats not true at all. Tens of thousands is not very few

I guess the higher Spartan count helped to see playable Elites disappear from the serie since Halo 4…

After all, the multiplayer is canon but it’s not the real world and don’t forget they added Flood Spartans so why not Elites, Grunts, Brutes or something else ?

14k responses and 4 years later and we still don’t have our damn Elites!

Okay now it’s time to give 343i some -Yoink- for screwing up the new update. They added the Phantom (it’s about -Yoink!- time) Yet they didn’t add playable Elites, so the only thing I say is… F##K YOU! YOU KNOW WHY?! CAUSE YOU’RE… FIRED!!!

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> Putting aside warzone firefight and Spartan ops, the main reason 343 doesn’t add elites is because VERY FEW people play as them online

No.

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> Okay now it’s time to give 343i some -Yoink- for screwing up the new update. They added the Phantom (it’s about -Yoink!- time) Yet they didn’t add playable Elites, so the only thing I say is… F##K YOU! YOU KNOW WHY?! CAUSE YOU’RE… FIRED!!!

This post was very oddly written, is this some kind of reference?

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> Putting aside warzone firefight and Spartan ops, the main reason 343 doesn’t add elites is because VERY FEW people play as them online

As far as I am aware this is the biggest petition made during the halo franchise. It is very telling that 343 has decided to ignore it for 4 years in the hopes it would go away. Ironically their hopes came true since I, among many of the first people who signed this, left the halo series not long after halo 4.

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> > Putting aside warzone firefight and Spartan ops, the main reason 343 doesn’t add elites is because VERY FEW people play as them online
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> As far as I am aware this is the biggest petition made during the halo franchise. It is very telling that 343 has decided to ignore it for 4 years in the hopes it would go away. Ironically their hopes came true since I, among many of the first people who signed this, left the halo series not long after halo 4.

It’s not even a petition lol, it’s full of back and forth arguements with some “I want elites back!” And then a lot of pointless banter on elite armor, vehicles, cosmetics, ect ect. Tell me how many have said exclusively “yes, I want elites” out of the near 16,000 replies. I have no issue with elites, but it’s legitimately funny seeing people say this is the biggest ignored thread when so much of it has been what I’d say is spam. There’s previous posts by mods even giving warnings on that lol. Even my own post right here has nothing to do with a yes/no anwser. I have to agree with the dude, what bases do you have on the number who played as an elite? Any number at all? Hundreds? Thousands? Ten thousand? Or is it just speculation? Cuz that’s really all I believe. Again, I’ve no issues with adding elites, it harms nothing, but I too would do what 343 does if I see in their shoes. I don’t see this “sangheli role play community” as a large group and therefore shouldn’t need to be a priority over other things that affect more people.

Tell me how many have said “yes” to elites in this entire thread. Anyone even keep count? Anyone going to even bother? Untill I can see the actual “need” for elites, I’ll continue thinking a bit like 343 do on this specific matter.

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> > As far as I am aware this is the biggest petition made during the halo franchise. It is very telling that 343 has decided to ignore it for 4 years in the hopes it would go away. Ironically their hopes came true since I, among many of the first people who signed this, left the halo series not long after halo 4.
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> It’s not even a petition lol, it’s full of back and forth arguements with some “I want elites back!” And then a lot of pointless banter on elite armor, vehicles, cosmetics, ect ect. Tell me how many have said exclusively “yes, I want elites” out of the near 16,000 replies. I have no issue with elites, but it’s legitimately funny seeing people say this is the biggest ignored thread when so much of it has been what I’d say is spam. There’s previous posts by mods even giving warnings on that lol. Even my own post right here has nothing to do with a yes/no anwser. I have to agree with the dude, what bases do you have on the number who played as an elite? Any number at all? Hundreds? Thousands? Ten thousand? Or is it just speculation? Cuz that’s really all I believe. Again, I’ve no issues with adding elites, it harms nothing, but I too would do what 343 does if I see in their shoes. I don’t see this “sangheli role play community” as a large group and therefore shouldn’t need to be a priority over other things that affect more people.
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> Tell me how many have said “yes” to elites in this entire thread. Anyone even keep count? Anyone going to even bother? Untill I can see the actual “need” for elites, I’ll continue thinking a bit like 343 do on this specific matter.

I’ll get back to you on that. I’m currently on page 3.

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> > > > Putting aside warzone firefight and Spartan ops, the main reason 343 doesn’t add elites is because VERY FEW people play as them online
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> > > As far as I am aware this is the biggest petition made during the halo franchise. It is very telling that 343 has decided to ignore it for 4 years in the hopes it would go away. Ironically their hopes came true since I, among many of the first people who signed this, left the halo series not long after halo 4.
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> > It’s not even a petition lol, it’s full of back and forth arguements with some “I want elites back!” And then a lot of pointless banter on elite armor, vehicles, cosmetics, ect ect. Tell me how many have said exclusively “yes, I want elites” out of the near 16,000 replies. I have no issue with elites, but it’s legitimately funny seeing people say this is the biggest ignored thread when so much of it has been what I’d say is spam. There’s previous posts by mods even giving warnings on that lol. Even my own post right here has nothing to do with a yes/no anwser. I have to agree with the dude, what bases do you have on the number who played as an elite? Any number at all? Hundreds? Thousands? Ten thousand? Or is it just speculation? Cuz that’s really all I believe. Again, I’ve no issues with adding elites, it harms nothing, but I too would do what 343 does if I see in their shoes. I don’t see this “sangheli role play community” as a large group and therefore shouldn’t need to be a priority over other things that affect more people.
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> > Tell me how many have said “yes” to elites in this entire thread. Anyone even keep count? Anyone going to even bother? Untill I can see the actual “need” for elites, I’ll continue thinking a bit like 343 do on this specific matter.
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> I’ll get back to you on that. I’m currently on page 3.

I’ll wait the week it may take to do that. Nevertheless my point was people just don’t see this need for playable elites. It’s more of a want than a need. How many views do these YouTube channels get on this topic? A few thousand? Compare that to the hundred thousand that a general random halo vid is and you’ll see the difference in interest. There’s also your Xbox petition on Xbox.com. Last I checked it was near 600 yes? Where’s this tens of thousands I heard about earlier? Did they give up? Even more reason for 343 to prioritize stuff over this topic if people are just leaving then. I hope you guys understand what I’m getting at. I’m not saying to give up on wanting playable elites, I’m not saying there shouldn’t be any, I don’t mind it, but if you seriously (SERIOUSLY!) put any thought into this on 343s perspective would you do it? You have limited resources and time, the game has other areas full of issues, bugs, lack of variety, ect ect. What would you do? I see so many other issues with halo that I see bigger than this, so it really does baffle me when people say this is the biggest thing that 343 has ignored. I could use the over used sprint exuse as it straight up effects gameplay in a domino effect where as a playable sangheli doesn’t. That is more ignored cuz it directly effects gameplay with other mechanics being involved (not to mention it’s just as old as missing elites)What mechanic is an elite? It’s not.

edit: just to add on I even voted for elites on that Xbox site (probably a month or two ago)even tho I myself never even played them. It really is harmless to have them but as said, you have a lot of convincing to do with 343 to have them as they just aren’t bungie.

hmmm I see the words are still being exchanged.

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> > > > > Putting aside warzone firefight and Spartan ops, the main reason 343 doesn’t add elites is because VERY FEW people play as them online
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> > > > As far as I am aware this is the biggest petition made during the halo franchise. It is very telling that 343 has decided to ignore it for 4 years in the hopes it would go away. Ironically their hopes came true since I, among many of the first people who signed this, left the halo series not long after halo 4.
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> > > It’s not even a petition lol, it’s full of back and forth arguements with some “I want elites back!” And then a lot of pointless banter on elite armor, vehicles, cosmetics, ect ect. Tell me how many have said exclusively “yes, I want elites” out of the near 16,000 replies. I have no issue with elites, but it’s legitimately funny seeing people say this is the biggest ignored thread when so much of it has been what I’d say is spam. There’s previous posts by mods even giving warnings on that lol. Even my own post right here has nothing to do with a yes/no anwser. I have to agree with the dude, what bases do you have on the number who played as an elite? Any number at all? Hundreds? Thousands? Ten thousand? Or is it just speculation? Cuz that’s really all I believe. Again, I’ve no issues with adding elites, it harms nothing, but I too would do what 343 does if I see in their shoes. I don’t see this “sangheli role play community” as a large group and therefore shouldn’t need to be a priority over other things that affect more people.
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> > > Tell me how many have said “yes” to elites in this entire thread. Anyone even keep count? Anyone going to even bother? Untill I can see the actual “need” for elites, I’ll continue thinking a bit like 343 do on this specific matter.
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> > I’ll get back to you on that. I’m currently on page 3.
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> I’ll wait the week it may take to do that. Nevertheless my point was people just don’t see this need for playable elites. It’s more of a want than a need. How many views do these YouTube channels get on this topic? A few thousand? Compare that to the hundred thousand that a general random halo vid is and you’ll see the difference in interest. There’s also your Xbox petition on Xbox.com. Last I checked it was near 600 yes? Where’s this tens of thousands I heard about earlier? Did they give up? Even more reason for 343 to prioritize stuff over this topic if people are just leaving then. I hope you guys understand what I’m getting at. I’m not saying to give up on wanting playable elites, I’m not saying there shouldn’t be any, I don’t mind it, but if you seriously (SERIOUSLY!) put any thought into this on 343s perspective would you do it? You have limited resources and time, the game has other areas full of issues, bugs, lack of variety, ect ect. What would you do? I see so many other issues with halo that I see bigger than this, so it really does baffle me when people say this is the biggest thing that 343 has ignored. I could use the over used sprint exuse as it straight up effects gameplay in a domino effect where as a playable sangheli doesn’t. That is more ignored cuz it directly effects gameplay with other mechanics being involved (not to mention it’s just as old as missing elites)What mechanic is an elite? It’s not.
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> edit: just to add on I even voted for elites on that Xbox site (probably a month or two ago)even tho I myself never even played them. It really is harmless to have them but as said, you have a lot of convincing to do with 343 to have them as they just aren’t bungie.

As you said adding playable elites wouldn’t harm anything. I think people talk on this post to make it bigger. That they want to play as elites is implied by their support of this post and the continuing discussion.

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> > > > > Putting aside warzone firefight and Spartan ops, the main reason 343 doesn’t add elites is because VERY FEW people play as them online
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> > > > As far as I am aware this is the biggest petition made during the halo franchise. It is very telling that 343 has decided to ignore it for 4 years in the hopes it would go away. Ironically their hopes came true since I, among many of the first people who signed this, left the halo series not long after halo 4.
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> > > It’s not even a petition lol, it’s full of back and forth arguements with some “I want elites back!” And then a lot of pointless banter on elite armor, vehicles,
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> I’ll wait the week it may take to do that. Nevertheless my point was people just don’t see this need for playable elites. It’s more of a want than a need.

Well, since nobody else seems to have an argument ready I’ll go ahead and start. You know whats also more of a want than a need? Classic playlist, no sprint, more playlist options, customization options, dev arena maps, any additional content, and their response to anything for that matter. I could list more but as it stands, Halo 5 was a complete game at launch, not a complete Halo game but a complete game, so everything we have gotten was either a want, or something 343 cooked up to put out later. What I’m trying to get at is that just because its a “want” doesn’t mean that it is any less important to people than other wants, when almost everything we have gotten was a want.

> How many views do these YouTube channels get on this topic? A few thousand? Compare that to the hundred thousand that a general random halo vid is and you’ll see the difference in interest. There’s also your Xbox petition on Xbox.com. Last I checked it was near 600 yes? Where’s this tens of thousands I heard about earlier? Did they give up? Even more reason for 343 to prioritize stuff over this topic if people are just leaving then.

Yeah no, after doing a quick search, I found that smaller youtubers below 500 subs did indeed make the few thousand views on their video for Sangheili, while two channels that were bigger than 20,000 made a video that generated 100,000 views(even though one only had it in the title and small portion of the video). After checking further I saw that none of them even knew about the petition which made it so all the supporters that came to the video couldn’t even vote for it. There is till a pretty large audience for elites, especially on MCC where you can’t go a game without seeing at least two.

> but if you seriously (SERIOUSLY!) put any thought into this on 343s perspective would you do it? You have limited resources and time, the game has other areas full of issues, bugs, lack of variety, ect ect. What would you do? I see so many other issues with halo that I see bigger than this, so it really does baffle me when people say this is the biggest thing that 343 has ignored.

I would put playable elites in the game is what I’d yoinking do! If I was a developer, while I would focus on fixing bugs, I’d have my second priority being pleasing the community then comes adding whatever the yoink I want in. What issue is so big that it keeps elites out? Most of it are warzone bugs that while they do annoy you, are things I’m sure could be fixed within two months if 343 wasn’t constantly trying to put out REQ"s and other stuff. I mean, the only thing, and I mean the ONLY thing keeping 343 from putting elites in the game is this excessive amount of REQ’s they put in the game. I don’t know if its microsoft telling them to do it or 343, but either way they are completely capable of adding them in if they don’t focus on trivial things such as a Halo 2 beam rifle, rocket launcher(their version), 100 ugly armor sets and variants, or the three different versions of ward. This is the biggest thing 343 has ignored, they haven’t even gone as far as saying they won’t be in this or the next Halo til around a week ago when some 343 member said we shouldn’t get are hopes up for Halo 5.

> I could use the over used sprint exuse as it straight up effects gameplay in a domino effect where as a playable sangheli doesn’t. That is more ignored cuz it directly effects gameplay with other mechanics being involved (not to mention it’s just as old as missing elites)What mechanic is an elite? It’s not.

I didn’t really understand this last part but I’ll end with saying that 343 is completely capable, and there is nothing as far as I can see that keeps them from it other than 343 wanting to change everything they can and distinguish themselves from bungie, even at the expense of large communities.

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> > > > > > Putting aside warzone firefight and Spartan ops, the main reason 343 doesn’t add elites is because VERY FEW people play as them online
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> > > > > As far as I am aware this is the biggest petition made during the halo franchise. It is very telling that 343 has decided to ignore it for 4 years in the hopes it would go away. Ironically their hopes came true since I, among many of the first people who signed this, left the halo series not long after halo 4.
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> > > > It’s not even a petition lol, it’s full of back and forth arguements with some “I want elites back!” And then a lot of pointless banter on elite armor, vehicles,
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> > I’ll wait the week it may take to do that. Nevertheless my point was people just don’t see this need for playable elites. It’s more of a want than a need.
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> Well, since nobody else seems to have an argument ready I’ll go ahead and start. You know whats also more of a want than a need? Classic playlist, no sprint, more playlist options, customization options, dev arena maps, any additional content, and their response to anything for that matter. I could list more but as it stands, Halo 5 was a complete game at launch, not a complete Halo game but a complete game, so everything we have gotten was either a want, or something 343 cooked up to put out later. What I’m trying to get at is that just because its a “want” doesn’t mean that it is any less important to people than other wants, when almost everything we have gotten was a want.
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> > How many views do these YouTube channels get on this topic? A few thousand? Compare that to the hundred thousand that a general random halo vid is and you’ll see the difference in interest. There’s also your Xbox petition on Xbox.com. Last I checked it was near 600 yes? Where’s this tens of thousands I heard about earlier? Did they give up? Even more reason for 343 to prioritize stuff over this topic if people are just leaving then.
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> Yeah no, after doing a quick search, I found that smaller youtubers below 500 subs did indeed make the few thousand views on their video for Sangheili, while two channels that were bigger than 20,000 made a video that generated 100,000 views(even though one only had it in the title and small portion of the video). After checking further I saw that none of them even knew about the petition which made it so all the supporters that came to the video couldn’t even vote for it. There is till a pretty large audience for elites, especially on MCC where you can’t go a game without seeing at least two.
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> > but if you seriously (SERIOUSLY!) put any thought into this on 343s perspective would you do it? You have limited resources and time, the game has other areas full of issues, bugs, lack of variety, ect ect. What would you do? I see so many other issues with halo that I see bigger than this, so it really does baffle me when people say this is the biggest thing that 343 has ignored.
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> I would put playable elites in the game is what I’d yoinking do! If I was a developer, while I would focus on fixing bugs, I’d have my second priority being pleasing the community then comes adding whatever the yoink I want in. What issue is so big that it keeps elites out? Most of it are warzone bugs that while they do annoy you, are things I’m sure could be fixed within two months if 343 wasn’t constantly trying to put out REQ"s and other stuff. I mean, the only thing, and I mean the ONLY thing keeping 343 from putting elites in the game is this excessive amount of REQ’s they put in the game. I don’t know if its microsoft telling them to do it or 343, but either way they are completely capable of adding them in if they don’t focus on trivial things such as a Halo 2 beam rifle, rocket launcher(their version), 100 ugly armor sets and variants, or the three different versions of ward. This is the biggest thing 343 has ignored, they haven’t even gone as far as saying they won’t be in this or the next Halo til around a week ago when some 343 member said we shouldn’t get are hopes up for Halo 5.
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> > I could use the over used sprint exuse as it straight up effects gameplay in a domino effect where as a playable sangheli doesn’t. That is more ignored cuz it directly effects gameplay with other mechanics being involved (not to mention it’s just as old as missing elites)What mechanic is an elite? It’s not.
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> I didn’t really understand this last part but I’ll end with saying that 343 is completely capable, and there is nothing as far as I can see that keeps them from it other than 343 wanting to change everything they can and distinguish themselves from bungie, even at the expense of large communities.

Point 1. Disagree. You’re comparing playable elites to sprint which is a mechanic with a domino effect and playable sangheli aren’t that. Mechanics wanting to be changed in a failing franchise is more of a need than a want. Classic playlist? That is a want, not a need, I think you’re missing my point on this specific matter.

Point 2. Cool, I’ll still wait till someone can give numbers rather than speculation.

point 3. You may add them but no one really knows 343s priorities. Devs say it all the time where stuff gets cut, or they’ll try later, ect ect on what they’ll add. As I said earlier, if “I’m” 343 cuz I see things their way, there’s much more to do over playable elites. You say they could do it if they dropped the reqs, why? The art team makes the reqs, the models are already made. What would actually need to happen is have physics for the model that also works with the player and making said character also be able to interact with the environment. 343 dropping reqs wouldn’t free up time to make playable elites as it’d be a different teams job to begin with, and most if those guys are onto h6 or a h3A at this point.

point 4. I too believe 343 capable, but I don’t agree with you’re reasoning being they want to be different than bungie. Do they do things their own way? Yes. I think the reasons is only cuz of -Yoink- management, not the purpose of being different than bungie.

Do you guys think that with the new sangheili based maps and the covenant tech we got Elites might possibly come next update?

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> Do you guys think that with the new sangheili based maps and the covenant tech we got Elites might possibly come next update?

nope

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> > > > > > As far as I am aware this is the biggest petition made during the halo franchise. It is very telling that 343 has decided to ignore it for 4 years in the hopes it would go away. Ironically their hopes came true since I, among many of the first people who signed this, left the halo series not long after halo 4.
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> > > > > It’s not even a petition lol, it’s full of back and forth arguements with some “I want elites back!” And then a lot of pointless banter on elite armor, vehicles,
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> > > I’ll wait the week it may take to do that. Nevertheless my point was people just don’t see this need for playable elites. It’s more of a want than a need.
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> > Well, since nobody else seems to have an argument ready I’ll go ahead and start. You know whats also more of a want than a need? Classic playlist, no sprint, more playlist options, customization options, dev arena maps, any additional content, and their response to anything for that matter. I could list more but as it stands, Halo 5 was a complete game at launch, not a complete Halo game but a complete game, so everything we have gotten was either a want, or something 343 cooked up to put out later. What I’m trying to get at is that just because its a “want” doesn’t mean that it is any less important to people than other wants, when almost everything we have gotten was a want.
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> > > How many views do these YouTube channels get on this topic? A few thousand? Compare that to the hundred thousand that a general random halo vid is and you’ll see the difference in interest. There’s also your Xbox petition on Xbox.com. Last I checked it was near 600 yes? Where’s this tens of thousands I heard about earlier? Did they give up? Even more reason for 343 to prioritize stuff over this topic if people are just leaving then.
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> > Yeah no, after doing a quick search, I found that smaller youtubers below 500 subs did indeed make the few thousand views on their video for Sangheili, while two channels that were bigger than 20,000 made a video that generated 100,000 views(even though one only had it in the title and small portion of the video). After checking further I saw that none of them even knew about the petition which made it so all the supporters that came to the video couldn’t even vote for it. There is till a pretty large audience for elites, especially on MCC where you can’t go a game without seeing at least two.
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> > > but if you seriously (SERIOUSLY!) put any thought into this on 343s perspective would you do it? You have limited resources and time, the game has other areas full of issues, bugs, lack of variety, ect ect. What would you do? I see so many other issues with halo that I see bigger than this, so it really does baffle me when people say this is the biggest thing that 343 has ignored.
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> > I would put playable elites in the game is what I’d yoinking do! If I was a developer, while I would focus on fixing bugs, I’d have my second priority being pleasing the community then comes adding whatever the yoink I want in. What issue is so big that it keeps elites out? Most of it are warzone bugs that while they do annoy you, are things I’m sure could be fixed within two months if 343 wasn’t constantly trying to put out REQ"s and other stuff. I mean, the only thing, and I mean the ONLY thing keeping 343 from putting elites in the game is this excessive amount of REQ’s they put in the game. I don’t know if its microsoft telling them to do it or 343, but either way they are completely capable of adding them in if they don’t focus on trivial things such as a Halo 2 beam rifle, rocket launcher(their version), 100 ugly armor sets and variants, or the three different versions of ward. This is the biggest thing 343 has ignored, they haven’t even gone as far as saying they won’t be in this or the next Halo til around a week ago when some 343 member said we shouldn’t get are hopes up for Halo 5.
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> > > I could use the over used sprint exuse as it straight up effects gameplay in a domino effect where as a playable sangheli doesn’t. That is more ignored cuz it directly effects gameplay with other mechanics being involved (not to mention it’s just as old as missing elites)What mechanic is an elite? It’s not.
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> > I didn’t really understand this last part but I’ll end with saying that 343 is completely capable, and there is nothing as far as I can see that keeps them from it other than 343 wanting to change everything they can and distinguish themselves from bungie, even at the expense of large communities.
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> Point 1. Disagree. You’re comparing playable elites to sprint which is a mechanic with a domino effect and playable sangheli aren’t that. Mechanics wanting to be changed in a failing franchise is more of a need than a want. Classic playlist? That is a want, not a need, I think you’re missing my point on this specific matter.

But the thing about sprint is, nobody knows if it truly is the thing making the franchise fail, yes many didn’t like it, but as you say there are no exact numbers on it, only those that complain about it on the forums. So please, if you want to say its a need then give me numbers on the people who left specifically because of sprint.

> Point 2. Cool, I’ll still wait till someone can give numbers rather than speculation.

I will too, there are no numbers on the amount of people who want anything on this forum, so what should lead me to believe a large amount of people want it huh? If you have an answer then it most likely factors in with playable elites too.

> point 3. You may add them but no one really knows 343s priorities. Devs say it all the time where stuff gets cut, or they’ll try later, ect ect on what they’ll add. As I said earlier, if “I’m” 343 cuz I see things their way, there’s much more to do over playable elites. You say they could do it if they dropped the reqs, why? The art team makes the reqs, the models are already made. What would actually need to happen is have physics for the model that also works with the player and making said character also be able to interact with the environment. 343 dropping reqs wouldn’t free up time to make playable elites as it’d be a different teams job to begin with, and most if those guys are onto h6 or a h3A at this point.

Like what? Give me an example of what places of playable elites other than more playlists(which are made by a different division within 343 than people who would do playable elites), bugs? Yeah those can be fixed, but I’m pretty sure they shouldn’t take more than 3 months to do, and would already be fixed if REQ’s weren’t consitently added providing more REQ’s and raising the time required to fix them, as well as the bugs number. By the way, I understand most of 343 has moved unto make Halo 6, but I don’t see what’s keeping them from adding them to that game, and don’t come at me with no “priorities” -Yoink if you’re not going to state them.

> point 4. I too believe 343 capable, but I don’t agree with you’re reasoning being they want to be different than bungie. Do they do things their own way? Yes. I think the reasons is only cuz of -Yoink- management, not the purpose of being different than bungie.

Well I disagree, they have meaninglessly changed many things despite not only fan disapproval and its friction with the classic style. We can agree to disagree I guess, I jst can’t put 343 in the saints light you do.