Sangheili (Elites) In New Trilogy Matchmaking (Part 1)

I hope that if they add elites back, we get full customization, and that we can play in all social game modes, including warzone.

I reaaally wanna be able to unlock lots of different armor’s for my elites, as much as I hate to say it, I’d honestly probably drop so much money on req packs out of excitement in Halo 6, (if they even have the req pack system)

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> I hope that if they add elites back, we get full customization, and that we can play in all social game modes, including warzone.
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> I reaaally wanna be able to unlock lots of different armor’s for my elites, as much as I hate to say it, I’d honestly probably drop so much money on req packs out of excitement in Halo 6, (if they even have the req pack system)

I feel the same way, the good news is that we have Halo Wars 2 this year, H3-Anniversary next year, and then Halo 6 in 2018 (I’d prefer 2019 for maximum quality). So we are obviously gonna have more DLC’s for H5 in that time frame, let’s hope Elites are one of them.

Any news on H3 and any Elite related content on that matter?

No new news, but bungie had a unique art style for their Halo’s. Such as what seemed to me as a uniform size of elites regardless of rank n armo. In H4 n H5 they look bigger or the same size as brutes with bungie. So if they r added, then they most likely cant be on the same maps as the npc elites. Most likely do to physics and the particle engine. Perhaps a purchased dlc as I mentioned before were the elite are once again slender and agile, Id like that,;~}

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> No new news, but bungie had a unique art style for their Halo’s. Such as what seemed to me as a uniform size of elites regardless of rank n armo. In H4 n H5 they look bigger or the same size as brutes with bungie. So if they r added, then they most likely cant be on the same maps as the npc elites. Most likely do to physics and the particle engine. Perhaps a purchased dlc as I mentioned before were the elite are once again slender and agile, Id like that,;~}

They said that the H2-Anniv. Style isn’t a dead design. All of the elites in H5 (including Arbiter’s) are Storm class Elites (according to 343). The covenant armor could actually return in H6 (hopefully), and maybe with the sleeker design that the elites could return in H6.

All of this is hopeful thinking of course.

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> > No new news, but bungie had a unique art style for their Halo’s. Such as what seemed to me as a uniform size of elites regardless of rank n armo. In H4 n H5 they look bigger or the same size as brutes with bungie. So if they r added, then they most likely cant be on the same maps as the npc elites. Most likely do to physics and the particle engine. Perhaps a purchased dlc as I mentioned before were the elite are once again slender and agile, Id like that,;~}
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> They said that the H2-Anniv. Style isn’t a dead design. All of the elites in H5 (including Arbiter’s) are Storm class Elites (according to 343). The covenant armor could actually return in H6 (hopefully), and maybe with the sleeker design that the elites could return in H6.
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> All of this is hopeful thinking of course.

Yes my friend, I believe since H2 was remastered they arent a dead style I think u r right. But a dlc would be nice with my fav style n sized elite, how about you my friend,;~}

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> > > No new news, but bungie had a unique art style for their Halo’s. Such as what seemed to me as a uniform size of elites regardless of rank n armo. In H4 n H5 they look bigger or the same size as brutes with bungie. So if they r added, then they most likely cant be on the same maps as the npc elites. Most likely do to physics and the particle engine. Perhaps a purchased dlc as I mentioned before were the elite are once again slender and agile, Id like that,;~}
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> > They said that the H2-Anniv. Style isn’t a dead design. All of the elites in H5 (including Arbiter’s) are Storm class Elites (according to 343). The covenant armor could actually return in H6 (hopefully), and maybe with the sleeker design that the elites could return in H6.
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> Yes my friend, I believe since H2 was remastered they arent a dead style I think u r right. But a dlc would be nice with my fav style n sized elite, how about you my friend,;~}

I feel the same way, best Elite design ever. I wonder if the style will carry over into H3-Anniv.?

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> So it seems that Sangheili will indeed not be playable in Halo 4 Matchmaking due to a ‘canonical matchmaking experience’. I will refrain from stating my opinion on the idea of attempting to make Matchmaking canonical, but the opportunity to have Elites playable is still not forever erased. There is no doubt that this thread has been noticed by at least a few 343 Industries employees. It is the top thread in the Halo 4 Forum, and was mentioned in one of the Q&A Updates. Unfortunately, we have lost the first battle. Elites will not be playable in Multiplayer on the original Halo 4 shipping disc. However there is still time for 343 Industries to listen to their fans.
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> It may be possible to include elite player models in future Downloadable Content, depending on the layout of the Halo 4 engine. If this is not possible, do not lose faith. If 343 Industries wants to be known as one of the few developers that listens to their fans, they will most certainly incorporate elites as playable characters in Halo 5 & 6. With this being the most popular thread on this forum and holding that title, it seems to be one favor that the fans are wishing to see fulfilled. I comprehend that 343 Industries wanted to make this “their Halo” and not “Bungie’s Halo”, and I respect that philosophy, but this does not mean that all core elements should be pushed to the wayside. This is one core element of Halo Matchmaking that should never be pushed to the wayside.
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> Jaime Griesemer: “I’d much rather experiment and do something surprising, and not have everybody appreciate it, than just turn the crank and do another alien war movie with a space marine”
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> This is a quote from Jamie Griesemer regarding the criticism that the Arbiter’s missions in Halo 2 received. So 343 Industries wisely took the information from the fans about this and created the “Spartan Identity” for Halo 4. Unfortunately the Sangheili population has grown much larger since Halo 2. My identity in Halo, and many others, is an elite. It is not going to be a pleasant experience having to change my identity for Halo 4, but if we stick it out, we may be rewarded.
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> Below is the original post written on March 5th, 2012 containing many reasons why the Sangheili community has grown and the importance of their inclusion.
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> -ORIGINAL POST-
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> Without jumping to conclusions, I understand that Sangheili have neither been confirmed or denied for the Multiplayer of Halo 4, but I would like to present my explanation for why it is imperative Elites make a return, much more dignified than the limitations of Reach.
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> It is no doubt the Elite community within Halo is small, but having been involved with it for 6 and half years now, I am astounded at it’s growth. As more Halo media like The Return, Halo: Cole Protocol, and Halo: Glasslands makes it’s way to the gamer, the more compelled the gamer is to prefer playing as an Elite over a Spartan. Especially when the media makes reference to things found on a game level, such as Thel 'Vadam or the Revenant. Although that sounds like a very basic and broad way to explain this, after speaking with the populous of newly converted “Elite players”, this is the general reason I get for this exponential growth. To make this point, I ask you to look around, and in nearly every thread you will see at least one or two users with Elite or Covenant avatars.
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> 343i, I would like you to recognize that we are here collectively, and we deserve the respect and catered opinions just as much as the Spartan fanbase. Although extreme, I know players who actually will not buy Halo 4 if they are not available in Matchmaking, and I cannot say I blame them. What would Halo be without Covenant Weapons/Vehicles as well? Energy Swords, Needlers, and Wraiths are all iconic symbols of what makes Halo, Halo.
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> The limitations of playing as an Elite in Halo Reach are indeed disheartening. Going back to the Halo 3 method of playing as an elite during regular Matchmaking can be the solution. Not only does that add to the customization, but it can also be explained canonically. I understand that 343i is in the process of delivering a canonical explanation for the Red and Blue Spartans fighting each other. The relationship between Humans and Sangheili can be used to add Elites into this mix. Since the UNSC and the Sangheili are allied, having them use human weapons is anything but non-canon. Or if you would like to take the reverse side of the coin, ONI is supplying the Servants of Abiding Truth with weaponry, which is human as well. This can easily be weaved into the plot without creating a mess.
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> I understand the game is very far into the development stage, I do not know for sure, but judging by the newest ViDoc, I believe it isn’t too late to give the Elite fanbase a voice. We’re here, we shouldn’t be neglected, and if we are, I can assure you that 343i will lose a great deal of supporters.
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I miss playable Elites…

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> I feel the same way, best Elite design ever. I wonder if the style will carry over into H3-Anniv.?

I hope it’s a no, why remakes and remasters can’t use the same design, the same sounds, the same textures, all that stuff but in higher quality ? Nope, they use different things…

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> > I feel the same way, best Elite design ever. I wonder if the style will carry over into H3-Anniv.?
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> I hope it’s a no, why remakes and remasters can’t use the same design, the same sounds, the same textures, all that stuff but in higher quality ? Nope, they use different things…

Hello grunt, while remasters and remakes are not the same thing, it is true they get used as to mean the same thing often. But since 343 said that style isnt dead,(I think it is used in HW2) it wont be a remaster. So I personally like the more slender agile Elite like the Arbitor and MC are in H2 n H3. So if it is renewed for H5 or a dlc you would like it then, right my friend,;~}

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> > > I feel the same way, best Elite design ever. I wonder if the style will carry over into H3-Anniv.?
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> Hello grunt, while remasters and remakes are not the same thing, it is true they get used as to mean the same thing often. But since 343 said that style isnt dead,(I think it is used in HW2) it wont be a remaster. So I personally like the more slender agile Elite like the Arbitor and MC are in H2 n H3. So if it is renewed for H5 or a dlc you would like it then, right my friend,;~}

Ah, the Halo 3 era design I like it, not the Halo 4 one… also used on Halo 2A + that’s why I used remaster and remake, one use assets from the original game while the other do not…

In all honesty, Halo 5’s elites are my favorite, alongside with Reach’s. Although I would be happy with any elite style in MP, as long as I can finally be one, so bored of being a spartan.

dream halo 6 = never forget theme playing in game menus whilst customizing my elite ;’)
343 may not be my favorite developers, and I don’t care for the direction they’ve taken Halo, but if they bring back Elites in MP, i’ll be WAY to happy to be upset over their mistakes in the past, I really believe that we’ll see them in Halo 6, but at the same time I’m nervous that once again we’ll be hugely disappointed, and the fact it’ll be the final Halo game in this trilogy would make that 100x more insulting.

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> In all honesty, Halo 5’s elites are my favorite, alongside Halo 2A, and Reach. I feel that the Halo 1,2 and 3 elites don’t look mean enough, but I still prefer any elite design over a spartan, as I just find playing as a spartan boring.

Hello xWrath, I c u earned ur helio skrill, nice work my friend, I had to earn it twice, really,lol. But while The Elites u mention do look large n tough, I do like them as bosses and were fun to play against in H5 legendary or any other dif, I would want to be able to play the same agile size they used to be and I think r in HW2. I asked the 1st week of H5 if there was a way to play as an elite for a few reasons too. Take care and be well,;~}

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> > In all honesty, Halo 5’s elites are my favorite, alongside Halo 2A, and Reach. I feel that the Halo 1,2 and 3 elites don’t look mean enough, but I still prefer any elite design over a spartan, as I just find playing as a spartan boring.
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> Hello xWrath, I c u earned ur helio skrill, nice work my friend, I had to earn it twice, really,lol. But while The Elites u mention do look large n tough, I do like them as bosses and were fun to play against in H5 legendary or any other dif, I would want to be able to play the same agile size they used to be and I think r in HW2. I asked the 1st week of H5 if there was a way to play as an elite for a few reasons too. Take care and be well,;~}

Yeah earning Helioskril was definitely the hardest thing I’ve had to do in Halo, but it was well worth it! But yeah I’m fine with any types of elites being playable, I’ll be happy as long as we’re an elite.

How many votes do we have?

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> How many votes do we have?

591

i never really played as an elite but i would love to have the option again!!

Hey guys, back again. Just wanted to let you know I had a brief conversation with Grim on Twitter. If you’re worried they don’t know about us or that we’re begging for playable Elites back, then don’t…

They know :slight_smile:

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> Hey guys, back again. Just wanted to let you know I had a brief conversation with Grim on Twitter. If you’re worried they don’t know about us or that we’re begging for playable Elites back, then don’t…
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> They know :slight_smile:

Big thanks to Grim for the short talk on the topic by the way. Don’t know if you’ll ever see this here, but thanks :slight_smile:

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> Hey guys, back again. Just wanted to let you know I had a brief conversation with Grim on Twitter. If you’re worried they don’t know about us or that we’re begging playable Elites back, then don’t…
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> They know :slight_smile:

That happen with wilko and 343 said the same thing with mcc and that was months ago. So far they haven’t fixed it but add a few a few things. But who knows. They might come back. No. They SHALL come back!!!

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> > Hey guys, back again. Just wanted to let you know I had a brief conversation with Grim on Twitter. If you’re worried they don’t know about us or that we’re begging for playable Elites back, then don’t…
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> > They know :slight_smile:
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> Big thanks to Grim for the short talk on the topic by the way. Don’t know if you’ll ever see this here, but thanks :slight_smile:

Well il be -Yoink!-… last time you talked about this didnt he just tell you to slow down?