Sangheili (Elites) In New Trilogy Matchmaking (Part 1)

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> According to this, I don’t see any energy dagger behind the hand, what kind of weapon Elites could use to perform assassinations beside an energy dagger like Halo: Reach ?
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> + how someone can like Halo 5 Elites but dislike Halo 4 Elites when they are the same ? Both have very short mandibles, when I see the Arbiter here, his head is too short. Give me a good reason for this 343, the Arbiter is not a random Elite so shorter mandibles don’t make too much sense (too lazy to make another model is not a good reason) .
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> + about assassinations that’s why Elite to Spartan assassinations are cool.

Yeah the change to the arbiter was not needed and they changed arbiter to a new elite species. The elites in H4 and H5 are a new sub species elite.
They could have just taken the arbiter from H2A and put it in to H5 but no.

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> > According to this, I don’t see any energy dagger behind the hand, what kind of weapon Elites could use to perform assassinations beside an energy dagger like Halo: Reach ?
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> > + how someone can like Halo 5 Elites but dislike Halo 4 Elites when they are the same ? Both have very short mandibles, when I see the Arbiter here, his head is too short. Give me a good reason for this 343, the Arbiter is not a random Elite so shorter mandibles don’t make too much sense (too lazy to make another model is not a good reason) .
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> > + about assassinations that’s why Elite to Spartan assassinations are cool.
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> Yeah the change to the arbiter was not needed and they changed arbiter to a new elite species. The elites in H4 and H5 are a new sub species elite.
> They could have just taken the arbiter from H2A and put it in to H5 but no.

It’s all about the time constraints bruv… sadly

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> > > According to this, I don’t see any energy dagger behind the hand, what kind of weapon Elites could use to perform assassinations beside an energy dagger like Halo: Reach ?
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> > > + how someone can like Halo 5 Elites but dislike Halo 4 Elites when they are the same ? Both have very short mandibles, when I see the Arbiter here, his head is too short. Give me a good reason for this 343, the Arbiter is not a random Elite so shorter mandibles don’t make too much sense (too lazy to make another model is not a good reason) .
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> > > + about assassinations that’s why Elite to Spartan assassinations are cool.
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> > Yeah the change to the arbiter was not needed and they changed arbiter to a new elite species. The elites in H4 and H5 are a new sub species elite.
> > They could have just taken the arbiter from H2A and put it in to H5 but no.
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> It’s all about the time constraints bruv… sadly

You mean the excuse to cover laziness?

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> > > > According to this, I don’t see any energy dagger behind the hand, what kind of weapon Elites could use to perform assassinations beside an energy dagger like Halo: Reach ?
> > > >
> > > > + how someone can like Halo 5 Elites but dislike Halo 4 Elites when they are the same ? Both have very short mandibles, when I see the Arbiter here, his head is too short. Give me a good reason for this 343, the Arbiter is not a random Elite so shorter mandibles don’t make too much sense (too lazy to make another model is not a good reason) .
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> > > > + about assassinations that’s why Elite to Spartan assassinations are cool.
> > >
> > >
> > > Yeah the change to the arbiter was not needed and they changed arbiter to a new elite species. The elites in H4 and H5 are a new sub species elite.
> > > They could have just taken the arbiter from H2A and put it in to H5 but no.
> >
> >
> > It’s all about the time constraints bruv… sadly
>
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> You mean the excuse to cover laziness?

If 343 were really a professional game developer company you’d think they’d actually take the time and effort to sort out these inconsistencies but nah. Time constraints…
That’s really not a good excuse to ruin a AAA title game franchise, budget and time shouldn’t be a problem for Halo games. Well… After 4, MCC and 5 they may have lost a lot of budget, but remember that good ol game Halo 2? That barely made the release deadline, they took out so much from that game that they wanted to have in and it’s still a perfect game to many Halo fans. 343 need to fire a lot of people who clearly don’t know what they’re doing. Hire real Halo fans to make Halo games, not people who hate Halo and “know” what needs to be added to make it better. That’s when you get Halo games that try to be like cod or titanfall and that’s when you lose real Halo fans… How is it so damn hard to understand? You’re making HALO games so do what the HALO FANS want!

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> > > > > According to this, I don’t see any energy dagger behind the hand, what kind of weapon Elites could use to perform assassinations beside an energy dagger like Halo: Reach ?
> > > > >
> > > > > + how someone can like Halo 5 Elites but dislike Halo 4 Elites when they are the same ? Both have very short mandibles, when I see the Arbiter here, his head is too short. Give me a good reason for this 343, the Arbiter is not a random Elite so shorter mandibles don’t make too much sense (too lazy to make another model is not a good reason) .
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> > > > > + about assassinations that’s why Elite to Spartan assassinations are cool.
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> > > > Yeah the change to the arbiter was not needed and they changed arbiter to a new elite species. The elites in H4 and H5 are a new sub species elite.
> > > > They could have just taken the arbiter from H2A and put it in to H5 but no.
> > >
> > >
> > > It’s all about the time constraints bruv… sadly
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> >
> > You mean the excuse to cover laziness?
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> If 343 were really a professional game developer company you’d think they’d actually take the time and effort to sort out these inconsistencies but nah. Time constraints…
> That’s really not a good excuse to ruin a AAA title game franchise, budget and time shouldn’t be a problem for Halo games. Well… After 4, MCC and 5 they may have lost a lot of budget, but remember that good ol game Halo 2? That barely made the release deadline, they took out so much from that game that they wanted to have in and it’s still a perfect game to many Halo fans. 343 need to fire a lot of people who clearly don’t know what they’re doing. Hire real Halo fans to make Halo games, not people who hate Halo and “know” what needs to be added to make it better. That’s when you get Halo games that try to be like cod or titanfall and that’s when you lose real Halo fans… How is it so damn hard to understand? You’re making HALO games so do what the HALO FANS want!

I mean look at halo 2. 343 has the same amount of time to make the games as bungie did, and bungie ended up scrapping 1 1/2 years of work on halo 2 because the engine didn’t work o the Xbox. Then they scrapped a bunch of stuff and look what we ended up with. One of the greatest halos of all time.

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> > > > > According to this, I don’t see any energy dagger behind the hand, what kind of weapon Elites could use to perform assassinations beside an energy dagger like Halo: Reach ?
> > > > >
> > > > > + how someone can like Halo 5 Elites but dislike Halo 4 Elites when they are the same ? Both have very short mandibles, when I see the Arbiter here, his head is too short. Give me a good reason for this 343, the Arbiter is not a random Elite so shorter mandibles don’t make too much sense (too lazy to make another model is not a good reason) .
> > > > >
> > > > > + about assassinations that’s why Elite to Spartan assassinations are cool.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yeah the change to the arbiter was not needed and they changed arbiter to a new elite species. The elites in H4 and H5 are a new sub species elite.
> > > > They could have just taken the arbiter from H2A and put it in to H5 but no.
> > >
> > >
> > > It’s all about the time constraints bruv… sadly
> >
> >
> > You mean the excuse to cover laziness?
>
>
> If 343 were really a professional game developer company you’d think they’d actually take the time and effort to sort out these inconsistencies but nah. Time constraints…
> That’s really not a good excuse to ruin a AAA title game franchise, budget and time shouldn’t be a problem for Halo games. Well… After 4, MCC and 5 they may have lost a lot of budget, but remember that good ol game Halo 2? That barely made the release deadline, they took out so much from that game that they wanted to have in and it’s still a perfect game to many Halo fans. 343 need to fire a lot of people who clearly don’t know what they’re doing. Hire real Halo fans to make Halo games, not people who hate Halo and “know” what needs to be added to make it better. That’s when you get Halo games that try to be like cod or titanfall and that’s when you lose real Halo fans… How is it so damn hard to understand? You’re making HALO games so do what the HALO FANS want!

You speak the truth, but sadly I think halo will be lost in the era of twitch shooters and mlg players who WILL leave the game once something better comes along.

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> > > > > > According to this, I don’t see any energy dagger behind the hand, what kind of weapon Elites could use to perform assassinations beside an energy dagger like Halo: Reach ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > + how someone can like Halo 5 Elites but dislike Halo 4 Elites when they are the same ? Both have very short mandibles, when I see the Arbiter here, his head is too short. Give me a good reason for this 343, the Arbiter is not a random Elite so shorter mandibles don’t make too much sense (too lazy to make another model is not a good reason) .
> > > > > >
> > > > > > + about assassinations that’s why Elite to Spartan assassinations are cool.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeah the change to the arbiter was not needed and they changed arbiter to a new elite species. The elites in H4 and H5 are a new sub species elite.
> > > > > They could have just taken the arbiter from H2A and put it in to H5 but no.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It’s all about the time constraints bruv… sadly
> > >
> > >
> > > You mean the excuse to cover laziness?
> >
> >
> > If 343 were really a professional game developer company you’d think they’d actually take the time and effort to sort out these inconsistencies but nah. Time constraints…
> > That’s really not a good excuse to ruin a AAA title game franchise, budget and time shouldn’t be a problem for Halo games. Well… After 4, MCC and 5 they may have lost a lot of budget, but remember that good ol game Halo 2? That barely made the release deadline, they took out so much from that game that they wanted to have in and it’s still a perfect game to many Halo fans. 343 need to fire a lot of people who clearly don’t know what they’re doing. Hire real Halo fans to make Halo games, not people who hate Halo and “know” what needs to be added to make it better. That’s when you get Halo games that try to be like cod or titanfall and that’s when you lose real Halo fans… How is it so damn hard to understand? You’re making HALO games so do what the HALO FANS want!
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> You speak the truth, but sadly I think halo will be lost in the era of twitch shooters and mlg players who WILL leave the game once something better comes along.

Its all just so very heart breaking I’ve grown up with halo its been my only major game really hope it survives all this

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> > > > > > > According to this, I don’t see any energy dagger behind the hand, what kind of weapon Elites could use to perform assassinations beside an energy dagger like Halo: Reach ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > + how someone can like Halo 5 Elites but dislike Halo 4 Elites when they are the same ? Both have very short mandibles, when I see the Arbiter here, his head is too short. Give me a good reason for this 343, the Arbiter is not a random Elite so shorter mandibles don’t make too much sense (too lazy to make another model is not a good reason) .
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > + about assassinations that’s why Elite to Spartan assassinations are cool.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yeah the change to the arbiter was not needed and they changed arbiter to a new elite species. The elites in H4 and H5 are a new sub species elite.
> > > > > > They could have just taken the arbiter from H2A and put it in to H5 but no.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > It’s all about the time constraints bruv… sadly
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You mean the excuse to cover laziness?
> > >
> > >
> > > If 343 were really a professional game developer company you’d think they’d actually take the time and effort to sort out these inconsistencies but nah. Time constraints…
> > > That’s really not a good excuse to ruin a AAA title game franchise, budget and time shouldn’t be a problem for Halo games. Well… After 4, MCC and 5 they may have lost a lot of budget, but remember that good ol game Halo 2? That barely made the release deadline, they took out so much from that game that they wanted to have in and it’s still a perfect game to many Halo fans. 343 need to fire a lot of people who clearly don’t know what they’re doing. Hire real Halo fans to make Halo games, not people who hate Halo and “know” what needs to be added to make it better. That’s when you get Halo games that try to be like cod or titanfall and that’s when you lose real Halo fans… How is it so damn hard to understand? You’re making HALO games so do what the HALO FANS want!
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> > You speak the truth, but sadly I think halo will be lost in the era of twitch shooters and mlg players who WILL leave the game once something better comes along.
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> Its all just so very heart breaking I’ve grown up with halo its been my only major game really hope it survives all this

As do we all brother!

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> > > > If they do retun in the next halo game i hope we can select the old classic elite design, not hate to 343, i really like them, its just that i preferred the bungie elite design.
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> > > They can’t use the design. If you noticed everything has a different design now.
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> > Speaking of how come humans don’t have a new design, like wth. They change all the other races looks but humans. That had to be biggest over look ever by 343.
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> Many people actually dislike the new Spartan designs and how the marines look in h5. 343 have changed how everything looks.

That wasn’t what I was getting at, I meant it as a rant because they changed all covenant species looks, like race and everything. Then they made lore that they are different races but basically made them as if they are the races from the older games with no change at all. I have a forum thing about how they did that with the arbiter if you want to check that out. But ya that was basically just a sarcastic rant.

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> > > > > > > According to this, I don’t see any energy dagger behind the hand, what kind of weapon Elites could use to perform assassinations beside an energy dagger like Halo: Reach ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > + how someone can like Halo 5 Elites but dislike Halo 4 Elites when they are the same ? Both have very short mandibles, when I see the Arbiter here, his head is too short. Give me a good reason for this 343, the Arbiter is not a random Elite so shorter mandibles don’t make too much sense (too lazy to make another model is not a good reason) .
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > + about assassinations that’s why Elite to Spartan assassinations are cool.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yeah the change to the arbiter was not needed and they changed arbiter to a new elite species. The elites in H4 and H5 are a new sub species elite.
> > > > > > They could have just taken the arbiter from H2A and put it in to H5 but no.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > It’s all about the time constraints bruv… sadly
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You mean the excuse to cover laziness?
> > >
> > >
> > > If 343 were really a professional game developer company you’d think they’d actually take the time and effort to sort out these inconsistencies but nah. Time constraints…
> > > That’s really not a good excuse to ruin a AAA title game franchise, budget and time shouldn’t be a problem for Halo games. Well… After 4, MCC and 5 they may have lost a lot of budget, but remember that good ol game Halo 2? That barely made the release deadline, they took out so much from that game that they wanted to have in and it’s still a perfect game to many Halo fans. 343 need to fire a lot of people who clearly don’t know what they’re doing. Hire real Halo fans to make Halo games, not people who hate Halo and “know” what needs to be added to make it better. That’s when you get Halo games that try to be like cod or titanfall and that’s when you lose real Halo fans… How is it so damn hard to understand? You’re making HALO games so do what the HALO FANS want!
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> >
> > You speak the truth, but sadly I think halo will be lost in the era of twitch shooters and mlg players who WILL leave the game once something better comes along.
>
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> Its all just so very heart breaking I’ve grown up with halo its been my only major game really hope it survives all this

As batman said, “you either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become a villain.”

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> > > > > > > > According to this, I don’t see any energy dagger behind the hand, what kind of weapon Elites could use to perform assassinations beside an energy dagger like Halo: Reach ?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > + how someone can like Halo 5 Elites but dislike Halo 4 Elites when they are the same ? Both have very short mandibles, when I see the Arbiter here, his head is too short. Give me a good reason for this 343, the Arbiter is not a random Elite so shorter mandibles don’t make too much sense (too lazy to make another model is not a good reason) .
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > + about assassinations that’s why Elite to Spartan assassinations are cool.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yeah the change to the arbiter was not needed and they changed arbiter to a new elite species. The elites in H4 and H5 are a new sub species elite.
> > > > > > > They could have just taken the arbiter from H2A and put it in to H5 but no.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It’s all about the time constraints bruv… sadly
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You mean the excuse to cover laziness?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If 343 were really a professional game developer company you’d think they’d actually take the time and effort to sort out these inconsistencies but nah. Time constraints…
> > > > That’s really not a good excuse to ruin a AAA title game franchise, budget and time shouldn’t be a problem for Halo games. Well… After 4, MCC and 5 they may have lost a lot of budget, but remember that good ol game Halo 2? That barely made the release deadline, they took out so much from that game that they wanted to have in and it’s still a perfect game to many Halo fans. 343 need to fire a lot of people who clearly don’t know what they’re doing. Hire real Halo fans to make Halo games, not people who hate Halo and “know” what needs to be added to make it better. That’s when you get Halo games that try to be like cod or titanfall and that’s when you lose real Halo fans… How is it so damn hard to understand? You’re making HALO games so do what the HALO FANS want!
> > >
> > >
> > > You speak the truth, but sadly I think halo will be lost in the era of twitch shooters and mlg players who WILL leave the game once something better comes along.
> >
> >
> > Its all just so very heart breaking I’ve grown up with halo its been my only major game really hope it survives all this
>
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> As batman said, “you either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become a villain.”

Nice quote man

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> That wasn’t what I was getting at, I meant it as a rant because they changed all covenant species looks, like race and everything. Then they made lore that they are different races but basically made them as if they are the races from the older games with no change at all. I have a forum thing about how they did that with the arbiter if you want to check that out. But ya that was basically just a sarcastic rant.

Elites, Grunts and Jackals are different from their storm counterpart because of the combat suit they use, it’s a good way for 343 to use Grunts and Jackals who are with Swords of Sanghellios (we know for Grunts because Halo 2 and because Grunts follow their masters but Jackals… ) .

Halo 2 Grunt Vs. Halo 5 GruntHalo 3 Jackal Vs. 343 Jackal (I know if it’s a Halo 5 render)

Come on, the world can tell if that Grunt here is a storm Grunt or not and don’t forget the funny voice in Halo: CE/2/3.

About the SoS armor, I don’t know Halo 5… but why they don’t use the old Covenant armor ?

EDIT : so I can’t put a line between two links, nice 343.

Personally I would love to see 343 make use of the different subspecies of jackals and breeds of grunts to add variety to their ranks. The classic jackals could be a lot more defensive while the new jackals can be offensive and the halo 4 grunts could have the strongest punches since they have the most muscle mass but die the quickest since they don’t have much armor, the classic grunts would have pathetic punches but can “tank” the most damage , and the halo 5 grunts could be in the middle. Elites just have phenotypes they could just have their appearance randomized within the ranks.

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> Personally I would love to see 343 make use of the different subspecies of jackals and breeds of grunts to add variety to their ranks. The classic jackals could be a lot more defensive while the new jackals can be offensive and the halo 4 grunts could have the strongest punches since they have the most muscle mass but die the quickest since they don’t have much armor, the classic grunts would have pathetic punches but can “tank” the most damage , and the halo 5 grunts could be in the middle. Elites just have phenotypes they could just have their appearance randomized within the ranks.

Everyone would, the only complaint that is possible (Assuming they don’t screw it up) would be there being to much enemy verity type.

Sometimes it feels like game designers don’t think were very smart.

OMFG 343i JUST LOOKING AT THE HUNDREDS OF THREADS LIKE THIS YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO US!!!

ARE YOU BLIND TO THE TRUTH OR JUST INCOMPETENT TO THE FANS WHO BUY YOUR GAMES.

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> OMFG 343i JUST LOOKING AT THE HUNDREDS OF THREADS LIKE THIS YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO US!!!
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> ARE YOU BLIND TO THE TRUTH OR JUST INCOMPETENT TO THE FANS WHO BUY YOUR GAMES.

They are arrogant just like the false prophets before them. Truth was a Liar just as 343i are liars one promissed the universe the other to care for the universe.

Cri

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> > ARE YOU BLIND TO THE TRUTH OR JUST INCOMPETENT TO THE FANS WHO BUY YOUR GAMES.
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> They are arrogant just like the false prophets before them. Truth was a Liar just as 343i are liars one promissed the universe the other to care for the universe.

Well this just got deep…

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> Cri

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Ok so this is in the description for the new prophets bane req pack…
“Wield the Mythic energy sword, Prophets’ Bane! Use the sword’s cloaking field and increased movement speed to serve as the Arbiter’s assassin.”
Seriously? Serve as the arbiter’s assassin? That honestly sounds like something to promote playable elites especially with the swords of sanghelios in Halo 5’s campaign… Not trying to stir up hype because I know it’s not gonna happen but goddamit these teases are -Yoinking!- cruel :confused:

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> According to this, I don’t see any energy dagger behind the hand, what kind of weapon Elites could use to perform assassinations beside an energy dagger like Halo: Reach ?
> + how someone can like Halo 5 Elites but dislike Halo 4 Elites when they are the same ? Both have very short mandibles, when I see the Arbiter here, his head is too short. Give me a good reason for this 343, the Arbiter is not a random Elite so shorter mandibles don’t make too much sense (too lazy to make another model is not a good reason) .
> + about assassinations that’s why Elite to Spartan assassinations are cool.

Halo 4 & 5 elites are the absolute ugliest they’ve been, Halo Reach I’ve always thought had the most badass representation of the elites. I honestly just wish 343 would see the benefit in adding playable elites into multiplayer and custom games. The Elites have always been beloved among the Halo franchise so there is no reason why they shouldn’t at least be playable in some way, shape, or form. This company has no idea what the hell they are doing (no infection, forge, or btb on release … Lol.).