Sangheili (Elites) In New Trilogy Matchmaking (Part 1)

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> cmon guys, we all know the elites arent coming back, just let the thread die already.

How about no?
When elites return to their rightfully place as apart of the player customization and general matchmaking experience then this thread is done. Untill then this will go on until such time.
Elites should have never been removed from mp in the first place that is why we ask for their return.

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> > POSTING ABOUT MODERATION DECISION IS NOT ALLOWED! I RECOMMEND DROPPING THIS CONVERSATION.
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> Jeez man, calm down.

Nobody was talking about moderation decisions.

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> > I personally think (even though it might be a dumb idea) use the elite armor system similar to the spartan armor system we have currently, Like the Elite officer helmet on the zealot body armor.
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They could but they would either need to limit it to a reach style invasion mode or non ranked only and really try and make the hut boxes the same as Spartans, which would make them not look like elites, because they wouldn’t be able to be hunched over or be taller. I’m all for customization but not at the expense of balanced gameplay

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> > > I personally think (even though it might be a dumb idea) use the elite armor system similar to the spartan armor system we have currently, Like the Elite officer helmet on the zealot body armor.
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> They could but they would either need to limit it to a reach style invasion mode or non ranked only and really try and make the hut boxes the same as Spartans, which would make them not look like elites, because they wouldn’t be able to be hunched over or be taller. I’m all for customization but not at the expense of balanced gameplay

They will most likely just use the elites that are already in campaign. If the elites are tall we will get something like reach did.

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> > > well lets get the discussion rolling again so how many votes do you guys think we need to get to to bring elites back to halo?
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> > Well according to some people it took 10000 for GOW to become backwards compatible… so I’m guessing 10000. We should all start trying to contact YouTubers and ask them to make videos about the poll.
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> Like who? LNG, Hiddenxperia RUL?

Exactly.

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> > > I personally think (even though it might be a dumb idea) use the elite armor system similar to the spartan armor system we have currently, Like the Elite officer helmet on the zealot body armor.
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> They could but they would either need to limit it to a reach style invasion mode or non ranked only and really try and make the hut boxes the same as Spartans, which would make them not look like elites, because they wouldn’t be able to be hunched over or be taller. I’m all for customization but not at the expense of balanced gameplay

Well they were in competitive play in Halo 2 Anniversary so what do you mean? They had the same hitbox as the spartans too. It’s possible. They could even use those exact models.

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> > They could but they would either need to limit it to a reach style invasion mode or non ranked only and really try and make the hut boxes the same as Spartans, which would make them not look like elites, because they wouldn’t be able to be hunched over or be taller. I’m all for customization but not at the expense of balanced gameplay
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> Well they were in competitive play in Halo 2 Anniversary so what do you mean? They had the same hitbox as the spartans too. It’s possible. They could even use those exact models.

In my opinion ranks above diamond should all have the same armour even as Spartans, keep it as even and competitive as possible

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> > > They could but they would either need to limit it to a reach style invasion mode or non ranked only and really try and make the hut boxes the same as Spartans, which would make them not look like elites, because they wouldn’t be able to be hunched over or be taller. I’m all for customization but not at the expense of balanced gameplay
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> In my opinion ranks above diamond should all have the same armour even as Spartans, keep it as even and competitive as possible

I don’t think that’s necessary, but i know there are some sweaty people that like to be babies about everything. I’m a gihgh onyx in FFA which is arguably the sweatiest gametype and I don’t think its at all necessary. I know some cry baby try hards might though.

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> > > > > > I personally think (even though it might be a dumb idea) use the elite armor system similar to the spartan armor system we have currently, Like the Elite officer helmet on the zealot body armor.
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> > > > They could but they would either need to limit it to a reach style invasion mode or non ranked only and really try and make the hut boxes the same as Spartans, which would make them not look like elites, because they wouldn’t be able to be hunched over or be taller. I’m all for customization but not at the expense of balanced gameplay
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> > > Well they were in competitive play in Halo 2 Anniversary so what do you mean? They had the same hitbox as the spartans too. It’s possible. They could even use those exact models.
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> > In my opinion ranks above diamond should all have the same armour even as Spartans, keep it as even and competitive as possible
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> I don’t think that’s necessary, but i know there are some sweaty people that like to be babies about everything. I’m a gihgh onyx in FFA which is arguably the sweatiest gametype and I don’t think its at all necessary. I know some cry baby try hards might though.

It has nothing to do with being a cry baby try hard, and flaming is not allowed on this forum. Diffrent armours can give people advantages and disadvantages, some of them have bigger heads, wider shoulders, and other various things. But bringing back the elites, if they even had a slight difference in hit box would be banned from ranked modes. We don’t need halo 3 swat all over again

Playable elites is necessary for Halo IMO. It adds to the diversity that all spartan MP cannot do. Besides it really does take to the whole “playing as something your not” thing
since I can think of at least one or two things that I have an common with a spartan. So with Spartans I’m Still playing as something I’am.

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> > > > > They could but they would either need to limit it to a reach style invasion mode or non ranked only and really try and make the hut boxes the same as Spartans, which would make them not look like elites, because they wouldn’t be able to be hunched over or be taller. I’m all for customization but not at the expense of balanced gameplay
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> > > > Well they were in competitive play in Halo 2 Anniversary so what do you mean? They had the same hitbox as the spartans too. It’s possible. They could even use those exact models.
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> > > In my opinion ranks above diamond should all have the same armour even as Spartans, keep it as even and competitive as possible
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> > I don’t think that’s necessary, but i know there are some sweaty people that like to be babies about everything. I’m a gihgh onyx in FFA which is arguably the sweatiest gametype and I don’t think its at all necessary. I know some cry baby try hards might though.
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> It has nothing to do with being a cry baby try hard, and flaming is not allowed on this forum. Diffrent armours can give people advantages and disadvantages, some of them have bigger heads, wider shoulders, and other various things. But bringing back the elites, if they even had a slight difference in hit box would be banned from ranked modes. We don’t need halo 3 swat all over again

The hitbox is what determines the balance. No armor makes a difference. We shoot hitboxes in game, not actual armor.

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> > > > > > They could but they would either need to limit it to a reach style invasion mode or non ranked only and really try and make the hut boxes the same as Spartans, which would make them not look like elites, because they wouldn’t be able to be hunched over or be taller. I’m all for customization but not at the expense of balanced gameplay
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> > > > In my opinion ranks above diamond should all have the same armour even as Spartans, keep it as even and competitive as possible
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> > > I don’t think that’s necessary, but i know there are some sweaty people that like to be babies about everything. I’m a gihgh onyx in FFA which is arguably the sweatiest gametype and I don’t think its at all necessary. I know some cry baby try hards might though.
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> > It has nothing to do with being a cry baby try hard, and flaming is not allowed on this forum. Diffrent armours can give people advantages and disadvantages, some of them have bigger heads, wider shoulders, and other various things. But bringing back the elites, if they even had a slight difference in hit box would be banned from ranked modes. We don’t need halo 3 swat all over again
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> The hitbox is what determines the balance. No armor makes a difference. We shoot hitboxes in game, not actual armor.

Yea but take fotus for example, you can see someone’s unicorn horn even if they are crouched behind someone

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> > > > > In my opinion ranks above diamond should all have the same armour even as Spartans, keep it as even and competitive as possible
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> Yea but take fotus for example, you can see someone’s unicorn horn even if they are crouched behind someone

Then dont wear Fotus? If you want to take the risk, do it by all means, but it doesn’t mean everyone should use the Recruit armour or something.

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> > > > > > > > > > I personally think (even though it might be a dumb idea) use the elite armor system similar to the spartan armor system we have currently, Like the Elite officer helmet on the zealot body armor.
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> > > > > > In my opinion ranks above diamond should all have the same armour even as Spartans, keep it as even and competitive as possible
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> > > > > I don’t think that’s necessary, but i know there are some sweaty people that like to be babies about everything. I’m a gihgh onyx in FFA which is arguably the sweatiest gametype and I don’t think its at all necessary. I know some cry baby try hards might though.
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> > > > It has nothing to do with being a cry baby try hard, and flaming is not allowed on this forum. Diffrent armours can give people advantages and disadvantages, some of them have bigger heads, wider shoulders, and other various things. But bringing back the elites, if they even had a slight difference in hit box would be banned from ranked modes. We don’t need halo 3 swat all over again
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> Then dont wear Fotus? If you want to take the risk, do it by all means, but it doesn’t mean everyone should use the Recruit armour or something.

If playable elites were in the game I would say the same thing. Don’t play as an elites then.

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> That’s quite ignorant to say, especially since they showed back up in H2A’s multiplayer.

Well if you watch the end game credits of H5 , clearly says “See you on Sanghelios” ! So they are going to be in H6,;~}

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We can only hope.

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hey doc, ho u r well today, I made several posts about how to get this done, Today, I get to talk to Cortana on my xbox1, very very cool. Did 343 do this, probably not, MS did. so please, read my posts earlier. That said the physics for elites are way different then a Sparton in any multi player situation, period. Most everything about an Elite is not currently compatable so This is a very big ask for H5.

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> hey doc, ho u r well today, I made several posts about how to get this done, Today, I get to talk to Cortana on my xbox1, very very cool. Did 343 do this, probably not, MS did. so please, read my posts earlier. That said the physics for elites are way different then a Sparton in any multi player situation, period. Most everything about an Elite is not currently compatable so This is a very big ask for H5.

I got the jist of what you said but I still don’t understand it well but either way I went back to one of the posts you made about share holder and stuff. To be honest there is an easier way to go about getting 343 to pay attention. Simply put, if many of the Halo youtubers did a video about how to make elites work than we can most likely make sure they see it. I understand it is no easy task for them to do, but it is something that can only add positives to the game if done correctly.

I don’t know much about programming and such, but in all honesty they already have the campaign models that they rigged and did animations for, as well as the firefight models. Though it won’t be easy to make them into player controlled characters, it shouldn’t take a year to do as the balancing ideas are already out there, the models are ready, and the next game comes out in two years. To be honest, they could probably put them in 5 if they put enough time and effort into it then already have it ready for 6 if they don’t plan on majorly updating the mechanics or engine.

But then again, I’m only a fanboy sitting on a computer with no knowledge of game development.

I personally luv the spirit and luv for the game shared by all in this thread, I share that too, and this thread has the best manors ive seen,;~} Real world is this is just a job to most @ 343. They truly believe at the top, they know better than us, look I earned the Armor , u know Helio Skrill twice, the fact that I could get their armor told me Elites mostly likely would not be available for multi player, so I asked why to the right people. asnwer; this is a Sparton only simulation, any other would almost be a remake, like the physics for the game and that elites, well i could go on, but its just boring programer stuff. But even I knew it mostlily wasnt happening. How do you add Elites to griff ball, u c now? This is why Im so hard on H5’s sand boxers. Take care my Halo family,;~}

Just posting my support and opinion, i would like elites back but only in invasion/social play lists because i loved what reach did with the different sized models and different abilities although in my brain still keeping it balancedish eg: 1 on 1 I had as much chance against a spartan as he did against me, also I loved the custom wars we used to have base wars, banshees vs falcons.
Probably gonna get alot of people disagreeing with me but I miss the option.