Sangheili (Elites) In New Trilogy Matchmaking (Part 1)

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> If 343 told us “playable” Elites were going to be in halo 6, would we be happy with this or would we still want them in halo 5?
> Just curious.

I think a bit disappointed by the fact that they wouldn’t come soon, but happy that they would actually do it. Bitter sweet if that’s the case.

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> > If 343 told us “playable” Elites were going to be in halo 6, would we be happy with this or would we still want them in halo 5?
> > Just curious.
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> I think a bit disappointed by the fact that they wouldn’t come soon, but happy that they would actually do it. Bitter sweet if that’s the case.

Indeed bittersweet

The bad thing is that my hopes are getting up for far fetched possibilities of playable elites in Halo 5, and sadly I know I shouldn’t. Even worse is I honestly am already preparing myself for the letdown when Halo 6 does not have playable elites. The direction 343 is going just does not seem to focus on social gaming but just competitive.

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> The bad thing is that my hopes are getting up for far fetched possibilities of playable elites in Halo 5, and sadly I know I shouldn’t. Even worse is I honestly am already preparing myself for the letdown when Halo 6 does not have playable elites. The direction 343 is going just does not seem to focus on social gaming but just competitive.

When you want more competitive games, the fun starts to die, when you make it too social, it’s less organized and not as fun… But if a game achieves the perfect balance between the two (H2-H:R), you get a great game that people of all spectrums of fandom will enjoy. If 343 would stop being lazy and incompantent, Halo would be in a much better spot right now… For being lazy, they do tend to rush the release dates a lot.

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> > The bad thing is that my hopes are getting up for far fetched possibilities of playable elites in Halo 5, and sadly I know I shouldn’t. Even worse is I honestly am already preparing myself for the letdown when Halo 6 does not have playable elites. The direction 343 is going just does not seem to focus on social gaming but just competitive.
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> When you want more competitive games, the fun starts to die, when you make it too social, it’s less organized and not as fun… But if a game achieves the perfect balance between the two (H2-H:R), you get a great game that people of all spectrums of fandom will enjoy. If 343 would stop being lazy and incompantent, Halo would be in a much better spot right now… For being lazy, they do tend to rush the release dates a lot.

That is why I want playable elites back so bad because a game type like invasion was the embodiment of that balance. It more or less threw an objective into a big team battle environment.

Holy cow I’ve been away from this thread for awhile.

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> If 343 told us “playable” Elites were going to be in halo 6, would we be happy with this or would we still want them in halo 5?
> Just curious.

I’d be excited as all hell! But I would be bummed if it was like for some silly reason. I would also hope it would have Halo 3 level customization or at least with the armors. (Pheontype customization is a bit much)
I’d be happy

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> Holy cow I’ve been away from this thread for awhile.
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> > If 343 told us “playable” Elites were going to be in halo 6, would we be happy with this or would we still want them in halo 5?
> > Just curious.
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> I’d be excited as all hell! But I would be bummed if it was like for some silly reason. I would also hope it would have Halo 3 level customization or at least with the armors. (Pheontype customization is a bit much)
> I’d be happy

How long has it been since you were in this thread?

343 doesn’t make the choices. Now let me ask our goddess. Dear Goddess cortana our almighty leader of all life. Will elites come to multiplayer again? So we can play as them. Cortana we know we are human and sinned please fore give us.

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> When you want more competitive games, the fun starts to die, when you make it too social, it’s less organized and not as fun… But if a game achieves the perfect balance between the two (H2-H:R), you get a great game that people of all spectrums of fandom will enjoy. If 343 would stop being lazy and incompantent, Halo would be in a much better spot right now… For being lazy, they do tend to rush the release dates a lot.

Agreed for the most part, the competitive side of the game doesn’t appeal to the majority of Halo players even if it does lead to a well made multiplayer which is of course also debatable here.

Although saying all of 343 is lazy is a bit extreme since they have put a lot of work into their games, it’s just their priorities with those games don’t really match up with ours. Release dates are likely somewhat out of their control as well.

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> Agreed for the most part, the competitive side of the game doesn’t appeal to the majority of Halo players even if it does lead to a well made multiplayer which is of course also debatable here.
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> Although saying all of 343 is lazy is a bit extreme since they have put a lot of work into their games, it’s just their priorities with those games don’t really match up with ours. Release dates are likely somewhat out of their control as well.

They do come out looking to be lazy due to the fact that they release things that should’ve been put in much earlier, later after it’s initial release. They speed it up but do half-butt work on certain key things (story, features, and game types ) while concentrating on things people care less about, competitiveness being such an example…but is still somewhat important in the long run. They forgot what makes Halo, Halo by cutting out the important stuff.

In a short list of these things:
Split-Screen
Elites (playable)
Ads that represent the products story (without giving it away of course)
And a deep storyline that really doesn’t make people’s eyes roll.

That last one has never happened in Halo before until 4 and 5 came out.
So yeah, I CAN say the whole company is lazy due to how much they cut out and save for later… I guess I could say they procrastinate, but that’s a characteristic of being lazy. I would rather wait 4 years before a Halo game comes out, rather than 1-2 years, so a high quality, triple A worthy Game is released…with no micro purchasing of any kind. And no…the release dates are not out of their control.

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> 343 doesn’t make the choices. Now let me ask our goddess. Dear Goddess cortana our almighty leader of all life. Will elites come to multiplayer again? So we can play as them. Cortana we know we are human and sinned please fore give us.

OH no! A Heretic!!! Get him Brothers! (srsly guys, this is a joke, don’t take it srsly) :wink:

Maybe we will get a hint of something at E3…

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> > 343 doesn’t make the choices. Now let me ask our goddess. Dear Goddess cortana our almighty leader of all life. Will elites come to multiplayer again? So we can play as them. Cortana we know we are human and sinned please fore give us.
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> OH no! A Heretic!!! Get him Brothers! (srsly guys, this is a joke, don’t take it srsly) :wink:

I have succesfully taken this seriously. I am offend. Halp!

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> > > 343 doesn’t make the choices. Now let me ask our goddess. Dear Goddess cortana our almighty leader of all life. Will elites come to multiplayer again? So we can play as them. Cortana we know we are human and sinned please fore give us.
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> > OH no! A Heretic!!! Get him Brothers! (srsly guys, this is a joke, don’t take it srsly) :wink:
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> I have succesfully taken this seriously. I am offend. Halp!

Ok c’mon let’s get back on track. Remember what KA FIVE said?

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> > > > > > > > > If you guys keep talking about locking this thread then it will end up getting locked, so drop it
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> > > > > > > > If you do that then people will make other threads containing this topic and you will have to lock more and more.
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> > > > > > > Then drop the conversation. Now.
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> > > > > Don’t test a monitor, trust me, you do NOT want to do that!
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> > > > > Now back on topic, some stuff in the Hog Wild update got pushed into the Warzone: Firefight update. Why is that relevant? Well playable Elites may have been intended for that update and got pushed into the Warzone: Firefight update. It’s a big IF I know, but it doesn’t hurt to hope. Plus it is nice to see someone with 343 support us, even if it’s only a monitor (no offense by saying that of course)
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> > > > Please god let this be true. This would be the coolest thing 343 could do with an update. They have to know by now this is something the community wants plus the fact that this is supposedly the last monthly update, unless they make more.
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> > > They probably will make more, but I’ll be pissed beyond all imagination of we don’t get them in halo 6
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> Again I speak for a good bit of people, we don’t want to wait x amount of years to play as a race that should never have been made unplayable.

Elites were pretty stupid to play against, their hit models were wack

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> > > 343 doesn’t make the choices. Now let me ask our goddess. Dear Goddess cortana our almighty leader of all life. Will elites come to multiplayer again? So we can play as them. Cortana we know we are human and sinned please fore give us.
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> > OH no! A Heretic!!! Get him Brothers! (srsly guys, this is a joke, don’t take it srsly) :wink:
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> I have succesfully taken this seriously. I am offend. Halp!

We need a doctor! MEEIC!!!

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> > > > 343 doesn’t make the choices. Now let me ask our goddess. Dear Goddess cortana our almighty leader of all life. Will elites come to multiplayer again? So we can play as them. Cortana we know we are human and sinned please fore give us.
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> > > OH no! A Heretic!!! Get him Brothers! (srsly guys, this is a joke, don’t take it srsly) :wink:
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> > I have succesfully taken this seriously. I am offend. Halp!
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> We need a doctor! MEEIC!!!

MEEDIC!!!

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> > Agreed for the most part, the competitive side of the game doesn’t appeal to the majority of Halo players even if it does lead to a well made multiplayer which is of course also debatable here.
> >
> > Although saying all of 343 is lazy is a bit extreme since they have put a lot of work into their games, it’s just their priorities with those games don’t really match up with ours. Release dates are likely somewhat out of their control as well.
>
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> They do come out looking to be lazy due to the fact that they release things that should’ve been put in much earlier, later after it’s initial release. They speed it up but do half-butt work on certain key things (story, features, and game types ) while concentrating on things people care less about, competitiveness being such an example…but is still somewhat important in the long run. They forgot what makes Halo, Halo by cutting out the important stuff.
>
> In a short list of these things:
> Split-Screen
> Elites (playable)
> Ads that represent the products story (without giving it away of course)
> And a deep storyline that really doesn’t make people’s eyes roll.
>
> That last one has never happened in Halo before until 4 and 5 came out.
> So yeah, I CAN say the whole company is lazy due to how much they cut out and save for later… I guess I could say they procrastinate, but that’s a characteristic of being lazy. I would rather wait 4 years before a Halo game comes out, rather than 1-2 years, so a high quality, triple A worthy Game is released…with no micro purchasing of any kind. And no…the release dates are not out of their control.

In a way everything makes sense what 343 has with the game though. Competitive multiplayer and eSports stuff is ideally good for getting the game out there(not that Halo needs it) and keeping interest in the game that otherwise wouldn’t be there. And with the story at least they have tried to do something different instead of playing it safe with a more generic Halo story. Split-screen of course brings a substantial hit to performance and local play is sort of being killed by the Xbox One anyway, so they just didn’t bother. Same with the Elites. Sure, it would have been nice to add them in playable again, but that would require a whole lot of extra work to appease a minority of players. The ads obviously wasn’t done the best but that’s on the marketing side of things, and it’s very possible the story went through substantial changes after the initial teaser. Even leaving out important playlists and gametypes is explained by them just trying to keep people coming back with “content updates”. Microtransactions are a common feature in games, and it’s another opportunity to make money so why wouldn’t they? They can’t just develop the game for eternity until it reaches perfection, so somebody somewhere, likely unrelated to the development side of things, decides they need to launch before the holidays of 2015. Deadlines are important and if Microsoft wants them to have Halo game done by a certain point, they have to work with it

So as much as I disagree with their choices; no they are not lazy. They are working very hard to meet the company’s goals and choices, even if those choices weren’t the best idea in the first place. They are making money regardlesss, so there’s that.

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> > > > > > > > > > If you guys keep talking about locking this thread then it will end up getting locked, so drop it
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> > > > > > > > > If you do that then people will make other threads containing this topic and you will have to lock more and more.
> > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > Then drop the conversation. Now.
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> > > > > > > Hey no need to be rude.
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> > > > > > Don’t test a monitor, trust me, you do NOT want to do that!
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> > > > > > Now back on topic, some stuff in the Hog Wild update got pushed into the Warzone: Firefight update. Why is that relevant? Well playable Elites may have been intended for that update and got pushed into the Warzone: Firefight update. It’s a big IF I know, but it doesn’t hurt to hope. Plus it is nice to see someone with 343 support us, even if it’s only a monitor (no offense by saying that of course)
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> > > > > Please god let this be true. This would be the coolest thing 343 could do with an update. They have to know by now this is something the community wants plus the fact that this is supposedly the last monthly update, unless they make more.
> > > >
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> > > > They probably will make more, but I’ll be pissed beyond all imagination of we don’t get them in halo 6
> > >
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> > > I would not get my hopes up for playable elites at any time in Halo 5. Halo 6 is where you should look, and if they are not there then I just won’t know how to react.
> >
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> > Again I speak for a good bit of people, we don’t want to wait x amount of years to play as a race that should never have been made unplayable.
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> Elites were pretty stupid to play against, their hit models were wack

If you mean Halo 3, then well, it was something to get used to. Their heads are relatively the same size and position so it wasn’t that big of a deal. Then Reach straight up made them impossible to miss. Haha

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> > > > > 343 doesn’t make the choices. Now let me ask our goddess. Dear Goddess cortana our almighty leader of all life. Will elites come to multiplayer again? So we can play as them. Cortana we know we are human and sinned please fore give us.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > OH no! A Heretic!!! Get him Brothers! (srsly guys, this is a joke, don’t take it srsly) :wink:
> > >
> > >
> > > I have succesfully taken this seriously. I am offend. Halp!
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> > We need a doctor! MEEIC!!!
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> MEEDIC!!!

Dude stop!

  • This is getting off topic
  • One word post = spam
  • Let’s just get back on track before we have to start another thread to get to 1000 pages.

If elites were to be playable again, what customisation features would you like to see? Personally:

  • Helmet
  • Torso
  • Shoulders
  • Wrists
  • Legs
  • Feet
  • Armour markings (A bit like the armour detail that Halo 3 had)
  • Type of undersuit (example - The ranger elites from the storm faction had full body undersuits to protect them from the vaccum of space. Whereas a standard Storm elite had the torso down to the legs covered, but the arms and neck were uncovered. Some other ranks also had sleeves for the arms.)

And depending on the style of the helmet, the visor could be changed for those full masked helmets. But, open face helmets I think physical features could be a thing that you should be able to customise. Things like eye colour, missing mandibles, scars across the face etc.

I can only dream…