Sangheili (Elites) In New Trilogy Matchmaking (Part 1)

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> > > This is another reason I would like playable elite’s back. You can do fun stuff like this with forge. Halo Wars UNSC vs purple UNSC with covenant everything doesn’t make sense. *Cough *Cough Training with enemy weapons and vehicles and your own with a simulation that doesn’t simulate vehicles and weapons being brought to you to fight your red or blue counter part being cannon is just as awful. bs COUGH COUGH
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> > If your opinion was an Elite it wouldn’t have cought a cold…
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> Then it sounds like you agree

If the last few pages of the thread have anything to say about it, you could say that.

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> This is another reason I would like playable elite’s back. You can do fun stuff like this with forge. Halo Wars UNSC vs purple UNSC with covenant everything doesn’t make sense. *Cough *Cough Training with enemy weapons and vehicles and your own with a simulation that doesn’t simulate vehicles and weapons being brought to you to fight your red or blue counter part being cannon is just as awful. bs COUGH COUGH
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> Sorry, my opinion caught a cold.

Man this has been my thought on this CANON crap. I don’t need a reason for reds and blues to fight. Just make a fun game for everyone. Even if you have to add in something you find meaningless. This thread is up to 604 pages if that don’t show 343 that your fans want this then I don’t know.

We shall not let chronic mlg pros, speciests, nor the xenophobic 343 stop us from returning to our former glory! For Sanghelios!

Also I wish this thread would be sticky noted but a sangheili can dream, but a sangheili can take action too!
For Sanghelios!

They need to be added into Halo 5. Not just into next generation Halo Games. 343 needs to understand, people are on Reach because they don’t have playable elites in Halo 5.

I like that the balance issue is always brought up as an argument against mp elites. Its not like there are ways that they couldn’t be made equal or balanced. It becomes a even more weak arguments when you realize that things like warzone exist. Me being an elites doesn’t take from a match of infection.

Im for bringing back elites not because i like playing as them but because invasion was fun and it wouldn’t feel the same without elites

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> Im for bringing back elites not because i like playing as them but because invasion was fun and it wouldn’t feel the same without elites

Everybody’s got there reasons.

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> I like that the balance issue is always brought up as an argument against mp elites. Its not like there are ways that they couldn’t be made equal or balanced. It becomes a even more weak arguments when you realize that things like warzone exist. Me being an elites doesn’t take from a match of infection.

it’s just funny at some point tbh.

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Yeah it would make life easier. Maybe it will get stickied when we get it to 1000 Pages?

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> > Also I wish this thread would be sticky noted but a sangheili can dream, but a sangheili can take action too!
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> Yeah it would make life easier. Maybe it will get stickied when we get it to 1000 Pages?

I do believe 1000 pages is our next goal.

It wouldn’t even matter if we only had a few game types that elites could be played in, having Invasion back on Reach was so much fun. And there’s so much more opportunity with the all new Warzone game type. Warzone Invasion could be a thing; 12 Spartans vs 12 Elites with enemy AIs thrown into the middle. And it would make sense canonically as the elite players in simulation would be SOS elites, so enemy Covenant within the simulation would replicate Jul M’dama’s faction (and then obviously you have Prometheans thrown in because they are a mutual enemy).

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> I like that the balance issue is always brought up as an argument against mp elites. Its not like there are ways that they couldn’t be made equal or balanced. It becomes a even more weak arguments when you realize that things like warzone exist. Me being an elites doesn’t take from a match of infection.

Speaking of infection I don’t thing infection is mlg competitive championship -Yoink-, so why do we still not have playable elites, same with fiesta, firefight, and all this other -Yoink-. Pretty sure that all isn’t MLG!!!

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> > I like that the balance issue is always brought up as an argument against mp elites. Its not like there are ways that they couldn’t be made equal or balanced. It becomes a even more weak arguments when you realize that things like warzone exist. Me being an elites doesn’t take from a match of infection.
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> Speaking of infection I don’t thing infection is mlg competitive championship -Yoink-, so why do we still not have playable elites, same with fiesta, firefight, and all this other -Yoink-. Pretty sure that all isn’t MLG!!!

Lol, we joke about it but the fact that mlg is such a big deal in this game it really hurts the casual gamers. We need elites, it would help bring halo back into the right direction.

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> > > I like that the balance issue is always brought up as an argument against mp elites. Its not like there are ways that they couldn’t be made equal or balanced. It becomes a even more weak arguments when you realize that things like warzone exist. Me being an elites doesn’t take from a match of infection.
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> > Speaking of infection I don’t thing infection is mlg competitive championship -Yoink-, so why do we still not have playable elites, same with fiesta, firefight, and all this other -Yoink-. Pretty sure that all isn’t MLG!!!
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> Lol, we joke about it but the fact that mlg is such a big deal in this game it really hurts the casual gamers. We need elites, it would help bring halo back into the right direction.

Ya, no -Yoink-. I’ve been on reach a lot lately really because of it and to be honest the only gamemodes I usually play on halo 5 is fiesta, warzone occasionally, and breakout. Breakout to me is kinda causal and I do have fun playing it, and im not a competitive player. Hell I’ve been playing battlefield hardline a lot recently too.

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> > > > I like that the balance issue is always brought up as an argument against mp elites. Its not like there are ways that they couldn’t be made equal or balanced. It becomes a even more weak arguments when you realize that things like warzone exist. Me being an elites doesn’t take from a match of infection.
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> > > Speaking of infection I don’t thing infection is mlg competitive championship -Yoink-, so why do we still not have playable elites, same with fiesta, firefight, and all this other -Yoink-. Pretty sure that all isn’t MLG!!!
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> > Lol, we joke about it but the fact that mlg is such a big deal in this game it really hurts the casual gamers. We need elites, it would help bring halo back into the right direction.
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> Ya, no -Yoink-. I’ve been on reach a lot lately really because of it and to be honest the only gamemodes I usually play on halo 5 is fiesta, warzone occasionally, and breakout. Breakout to me is kinda causal and I don’t have fun playing, and im not a competitive player. Hell I’ve been playing battlefield hardline a lot recently too.

Well bruv, all we can do is keep given support for those Elites to make it into the game. It’s been far to long for this to go on without true support from 343.

Casual elites unite! :smiley:

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> > > > > I like that the balance issue is always brought up as an argument against mp elites. Its not like there are ways that they couldn’t be made equal or balanced. It becomes a even more weak arguments when you realize that things like warzone exist. Me being an elites doesn’t take from a match of infection.
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> > > > Speaking of infection I don’t thing infection is mlg competitive championship -Yoink-, so why do we still not have playable elites, same with fiesta, firefight, and all this other -Yoink-. Pretty sure that all isn’t MLG!!!
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> > > Lol, we joke about it but the fact that mlg is such a big deal in this game it really hurts the casual gamers. We need elites, it would help bring halo back into the right direction.
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> > Ya, no -Yoink-. I’ve been on reach a lot lately really because of it and to be honest the only gamemodes I usually play on halo 5 is fiesta, warzone occasionally, and breakout. Breakout to me is kinda causal and I don’t have fun playing, and im not a competitive player. Hell I’ve been playing battlefield hardline a lot recently too.
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> Well bruv, all we can do is keep given support for those Elites to make it into the game. It’s been far to long for this to go on without true support from 343.
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> Casual elites unite! :smiley:

Casual elite units!!! We will no fall.

In the name of the Arbiter, bring back the Elites in multiplayer!

I agree with the argument that quantity isn’t quality. However these posts and arguments have kept on going. It shows players did find this worthy to talk about for more than 600 pages. Some players kept posting to put their 2 cents in, others to argue and debate. What I’ve seen consistently is this:

Why elites can’t be in the game:
Health recharge and speed (such as in Halo Reach) one up the spartans in competitive plays
Hit box ratio for competitive games.
Canon

How it can be fixed:
Adjust the Sangheili hit boxes similar to Halo 3’s style.
Have Spartan vs Elite game types along with Elite vs Elite
As far as Canon… “Elites train with spartans” poof. I should be a writer for 343 (That was a joke, calm your -Yoink!-).

Why 343 hasn’t put elites in:
They’ve been fighting consistent time crunches and haven’t been able to focus on elites since they feel it’s not essential to the multiplayer
They feel it isn’t a big deal since a “majority” of the players don’t want it.

How can we address them? At this point, something more organized and thought out would attract their attention. As impressive as a 600 page thread is, it is still sadly just that. A thread. People spewing out ideas faster then anyone can read and 343 won’t have time to look through that. Now if this thread had the most likes and the most posts, that be a milestone. (Forgive my ignorance, I don’t know the status in comparison with the others).

Those are my proposals. Will anyone be willing to act on it too?

There are only 1.1 thousand likes for this thread. With 600 pages multiplied by 20 comments, you might be looking at number (Maximum grant you) of 12,000 likes. Only 8% of that has been reached. I know a lot of people posted multiply times, I’m one of them (yes hi there) but there should be more than 8% potential comments vs likes.

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> I agree with the argument that quantity isn’t quality. However these posts and arguments have kept on going. It shows players did find this worthy to talk about for more than 600 pages. Some players kept posting to put their 2 cents in, others to argue and debate. What I’ve seen consistently is this:
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> Why elites can’t be in the game:
> Health recharge and speed (such as in Halo Reach) one up the spartans in competitive plays
> Hit box ratio for competitive games.
> Canon
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> How it can be fixed:
> Adjust the Sangheili hit boxes similar to Halo 3’s style.
> Have Spartan vs Elite game types along with Elite vs Elite
> As far as Canon… “Elites train with spartans” poof. I should be a writer for 343 (That was a joke, calm your -Yoink!-).
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> Why 343 hasn’t put elites in:
> They’ve been fighting consistent time crunches and haven’t been able to focus on elites since they feel it’s not essential to the multiplayer
> They feel it isn’t a big deal since a “majority” of the players don’t want it.
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> How can we address them? At this point, something more organized and thought out would attract their attention. As impressive as a 600 page thread is, it is still sadly just that. A thread. People spewing out ideas faster then anyone can read and 343 won’t have time to look through that. Now if this thread had the most likes and the most posts, that be a milestone. (Forgive my ignorance, I don’t know the status in comparison with the others).
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> Those are my proposals. Will anyone be willing to act on it too?

You bring up good points. 343 does have to deal with a lot of time related issues and it’s understandable that they are human beings.

The problem is, 343 is trying to prioritize a fan base that effectively left the game a few years back rather then stay loyal and injoy the game for what it should have been.

Indeed.