Sangheili (Elites) In New Trilogy Matchmaking (Part 1)

Games Halo 5: Guardians
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> > Here’s the thing, you are only one right now. WE ARE MANY! This thread has continued for the inevitable return of the Elites in Halo’s multiplayer since before Halo 4’s launch. Thousands of posts begging for the return of playable Elites, over a couple saying to keep them out.
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> > Now I hear your arguement of them ruining competitive gameplay, well the answer is simple, just keep them out of Ranked Arena playlists and restrict them to Social Non-ranked Arena Playlists, Warzone, Warzone: Assault, Warzone: Firefight (since we’re not going up against other players, there shouldn’t be an issue here) and Custom Games.
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> > We have been asking for this for years, we are willing to keep them out of competitive Arena (including your precious SWAT). We’re willing to restrict them to certain gametypes, like Infection, or Invasion. We deserve to play as Elites again after waiting for so long. We have more reasons to add them back in than you have reasons to keeping them out.
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> > You see Arctic, you can’t kill, what WON’T DIE
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> > Edit: It’s so sad to see how selfish some so-called “members” of the Halo Community can be
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> Uh, ok? How does that matter? I don’t want Elites mixed with Spartans in PVP period. Not in social, ranked, or Warzone even. Warzone Firefight would be fine. Campaign would be fine. Elite’s only PVP would be fine. Just not Elites and Spartans in PVP. “Your precious SWAT” Lol, god that was a stupid thing to say. But it doesn’t beat your last line: “You see Arctic, you can’t kill, what WON’T DIE” facepalm So stupid, lol.
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> Yeah, ok, I’m being selfish because I want Halo 5 to remain balanced and fair.

You are selfish, you feel that we don’t deserve a feature we’ve always had because you don’t agree with it, and quit whining about competitiveness, if they keep elites out of arena then you can stop whining. I canst stand people who cry over hit boxes, boohoo

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> > > You can’t kill Immortality, this thread is a testament to immortality, progress can’t be halted and if it can certainly not by some disrespective person who can’t defend him/her/itself with relevant facts.
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> > > You can’t insult us and comment on our ‘idiocy’ with little proof or respect when all we have done is hope, respect and use the common decency and facts. Halo Reach with Elites playable was excellent. And Reach to this day still hasn’t died like other games. We are stating the benefits to Halo this would make. So go ahead, keep throwing unsupported insults at us all day long, but know that if you are attempting to kill this thread…it’s just immortal.
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> > > Nuff said.
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> > > Nicely said brother
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> > According to the service record this troll did not play any Halo game until Halo 4, guess that answers a lot of questions, and makes clear that he is a liar who is trying to bother us, now he has begun to insult people, my suggestion is call out for a Monitor to kick him out from here before he can drive mad someone and endanger this thread.
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> That explains alot. Monitor… Oh Monitor…
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> Kick “iArcticFire” from these sacred grounds

Oh for a second I thought you wanted me out. I was scared. Because I never got into Halo until possibly just before MCC. But I always have enjoyed Elites from the day I got Reach and 3.

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> Artic here fights with passion, but for the wrong cause.
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> You mentioned that I didn’t include footage in that old post. Check back. I did.
> But I’m a nice guy and here’s the link again:
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnsFti1I9s8
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> Sorry that you have to copy and paste that, I need to figure that out still.
> And I just read through all of those posts since my last one. I think they changed the mechanic for headshotting Elites. I can recreate the video that I’ve linked above on my 360 copy of Halo 3, but not in MCC. Maybe I’m not precise enough?
> Strange, isn’t it?
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> Another note, in the video you aim on the tip of the neck. I aim at that black panel and I’m fine. Maybe because of the fact that they’re hunched over it counts as hitting the shoulders or something? idk.
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> RZI, unless we see the engine rebuilt from scratch for Halo 6, I don’t think Split-Screen is coming back…
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> Let’s just stop with this argument here shall we? I mean, two pages of that is already more than enough, right?

I understand Split-screen isn’t coming back in Halo 5, I’m just saying I feel bad for those that were upset by the loss of Split-screen

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> > You can’t kill Immortality, this thread is a testament to immortality, progress can’t be halted and if it can certainly not by some disrespective person who can’t defend him/her/itself with relevant facts.
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> > You can’t insult us and comment on our ‘idiocy’ with little proof or respect when all we have done is hope, respect and use the common decency and facts. Halo Reach with Elites playable was excellent. And Reach to this day still hasn’t died like other games. We are stating the benefits to Halo this would make. So go ahead, keep throwing unsupported insults at us all day long, but know that if you are attempting to kill this thread…it’s just immortal.
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> > Nuff said.
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> According to the service record this troll did not play any Halo game until Halo 4, guess that answers a lot of questions, and makes clear that he is a liar who is trying to bother us, now he has begun to insult people, my suggestion is call out for a Monitor to kick him out from here before he can drive mad someone and endanger this thread.

I changed my gamertag multiple times, jerk. I’ve played Halo longer than you have probably. I started on CE, before Halo 2 came out. My old gamertag was an orange peal. I even have a screenshot from this one amazing time I got a Killimanjaro for the first time, which was the highest multikill you could get at the time (Halo 2, before Killtastrophe, Killpocalypse, and Killionaire were added). http://i.imgur.com/hQm7htO.jpg
Now I’VE begun to insult people? For the record, Shadow DRAC 086 called me ignorant, The RZI Guy called me stupid, and now you are calling me a liar. So I’m going to call all of you hypocrites. You can insult me, but I’m not allowed to insult you? That’s hypocrisy.

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> > > You can’t kill Immortality, this thread is a testament to immortality, progress can’t be halted and if it can certainly not by some disrespective person who can’t defend him/her/itself with relevant facts.
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> > > You can’t insult us and comment on our ‘idiocy’ with little proof or respect when all we have done is hope, respect and use the common decency and facts. Halo Reach with Elites playable was excellent. And Reach to this day still hasn’t died like other games. We are stating the benefits to Halo this would make. So go ahead, keep throwing unsupported insults at us all day long, but know that if you are attempting to kill this thread…it’s just immortal.
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> > > Nuff said.
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> > > Nicely said brother
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> >
> > According to the service record this troll did not play any Halo game until Halo 4, guess that answers a lot of questions, and makes clear that he is a liar who is trying to bother us, now he has begun to insult people, my suggestion is call out for a Monitor to kick him out from here before he can drive mad someone and endanger this thread.
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> That explains alot. Monitor… Oh Monitor…
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> Kick “iArcticFire” from these sacred grounds

Lol, yeah, kick me out just because I’m not agreeing with you guys. You guys sure hate free speech.

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> > > > > > > Here’s the thing, you are only one right now. WE ARE MANY! This thread has continued for the inevitable return of the Elites in Halo’s multiplayer since before Halo 4’s launch. Thousands of posts begging for the return of playable Elites, over a couple saying to keep them out.
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> > > > > > > Now I hear your arguement of them ruining competitive gameplay, well the answer is simple, just keep them out of Ranked Arena playlists and restrict them to Social Non-ranked Arena Playlists, Warzone, Warzone: Assault, Warzone: Firefight (since we’re not going up against other players, there shouldn’t be an issue here) and Custom Games.
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> > > > > > > We have been asking for this for years, we are willing to keep them out of competitive Arena (including your precious SWAT). We’re willing to restrict them to certain gametypes, like Infection, or Invasion. We deserve to play as Elites again after waiting for so long. We have more reasons to add them back in than you have reasons to keeping them out.
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> > > > > > > You see Arctic, you can’t kill, what WON’T DIE
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> > > > > > > Edit: It’s so sad to see how selfish some so-called “members” of the Halo Community can be
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> > > > > > Uh, ok? How does that matter? I don’t want Elites mixed with Spartans in PVP period. Not in social, ranked, or Warzone even. Warzone Firefight would be fine. Campaign would be fine. Elite’s only PVP would be fine. Just not Elites and Spartans in PVP. “Your precious SWAT” Lol, god that was a stupid thing to say.
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> > > > > > Not as bad as the intellect you clearly lack lol
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> > > > > > But it doesn’t beat your last line: “You see Arctic, you can’t kill, what WON’T DIE” facepalm So stupid, lol.
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> > > > > > Yeah, ok, I’m being selfish because I want Halo 5 to remain balanced and fair.
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> > > > > No, you’re selfish because you want Halo’s online gameplay to play as how YOU want it to be. Not caring for what other people want. It’s people like you that I don’t consider “true” Halo fans. We’re willing to keep them out of competitive play, but that’s not good enough for you. You can’t even let them in Social playlists or even Warzone or Warzone: Assault where balance isn’t as strict. Everything has to be done YOUR way apparently. You are a selfish person that cares nothing for what other people want
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> > > > And your different, how? You just want Halo to be the way you want it to be. At least what I’m saying makes sense. I don’t care who you consider “true” fans. I don’t value your opinion in the slightest anymore.
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> > > “And your different how”
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> > > First off, it’s “you’re”. Take English class.
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> > > Secondly, you’re throwing my own insults I made at you back at me. “You just want Halo to be the way you want it to be”. You can’t even make up a simple comeback.
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> > > Thirdly, In response to that statement, I want Halo to be for ALL players, Elite players (like myself), the Split-screenists (have to feel bad for their loss), the Campaign players, the Forgers, the Machinima-makers. The way I want Halo to be is where most, if not ALL Halo players are satisfied with everything. No more complaining, no more issues, just everyone sitting down on their chair or couch, playing some Halo rather their friend is next to them on said couch, or online on the other side of the world having fun.
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> > > Lastly, “At least what I’m saying makes sense”. So keeping an entire part of the community in the dark makes sense? I understand keeping the balance in competitive Arena multiplayer as balanced as possible. That’s fine, you can keep Elites out of there, it makes sense, but what doesn’t make sense is fragmenting a part of the community by keeping Elites as non-NPC’s. Warzone, Warzone: Assault, Warzone: Firefight, Invasion (should it hopefully come back in the “Memories of Reach” update), Social Non-ranked Arena playlists and Custom Games are the perfect places to have playable Elites. If not even Social Arena, then everything else listed.
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> > > Oh and why do many people go to Halo 3 and Halo: Reach for machinima and not Halo 5? (Besides the -Yoink- theater mode they made) Elites. We wouldn’t have the Aliens in RvB (including Tuckers son without them being in Halo 2)
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> > > You don’t give a damn, but I do
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> > My bad, sorry, I’m a bit of a grammar -Yoink!- myself. Everyone makes spelling mistakes though. I highly doubt you’ve never made that mistake.
> > Uh, I dunno, I think basically calling you a hypocrite is a pretty good “comeback”.
> > If every player was satisfied, I don’t think Halo would be a very good game. How is what I’m arguing for keeping an entire community in the dark? Screw the community that wants to have an unfair advantage over other players who don’t chose the same character they do. I don’t want to deal with Elites that don’t die from headshots from behind, while I die easily by them. I don’t want to deal with that in social anymore than I want to deal with it in ranked. If everyone has that advantage fine. Elites only PVP, Elites in Warzone, Elites in Campaign, all fine! Just don’t give another player an advantage I can’t have. ranked or not. I could say you’re the one being selfish here, insisting that you have an advantage over other players for no reason. “but what doesn’t make sense is fragmenting a part of the community by keeping Elites as non-NPC’s.” Lol, What? Non-non-playable-characters? Guess I’m not the only one making mistakes today. :wink:
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> “I could say you’re the one being selfish here, insisting that you have an advantage over other players for no reason”
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> When did I EVER say I wanted Elites back AND for them to have an advantage over Spartans? Now you’re just making stuff up at this point.
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> “Screw the community”
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> 1. People want to play as Elites not because of some advantage they might have, but because Elites are awesome and fun to play as.
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> 2. “Screw the community” SCREW THE COMMUNITY?! You don’t belong in the Halo Community, just leave and don’t come back

Yeah, you said you want Spartans and Elites to verse eachother in PVP. In all past Halo games that had that, it created unfair and unbalanced gameplay. I just proved that. The same thing will happen again if you pit Elites against Spartans, both being actual players. The only way to prevent that would be to have the exact same hit boxes. But considering that the Elites have completely different body structures, that wouldn’t really work. You’d still have the same problem. You took that quote of mine out of context. YES. SCREW THE COMMUNITY THAT WANTS TO HAVE AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE OVER OTHER PLAYERS! Especially just for the sake of their appearance!

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> > > Here’s the thing, you are only one right now. WE ARE MANY! This thread has continued for the inevitable return of the Elites in Halo’s multiplayer since before Halo 4’s launch. Thousands of posts begging for the return of playable Elites, over a couple saying to keep them out.
> > >
> > > Now I hear your arguement of them ruining competitive gameplay, well the answer is simple, just keep them out of Ranked Arena playlists and restrict them to Social Non-ranked Arena Playlists, Warzone, Warzone: Assault, Warzone: Firefight (since we’re not going up against other players, there shouldn’t be an issue here) and Custom Games.
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> > > We have been asking for this for years, we are willing to keep them out of competitive Arena (including your precious SWAT). We’re willing to restrict them to certain gametypes, like Infection, or Invasion. We deserve to play as Elites again after waiting for so long. We have more reasons to add them back in than you have reasons to keeping them out.
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> > > You see Arctic, you can’t kill, what WON’T DIE
> > >
> > > Edit: It’s so sad to see how selfish some so-called “members” of the Halo Community can be
> >
> >
> > Uh, ok? How does that matter? I don’t want Elites mixed with Spartans in PVP period. Not in social, ranked, or Warzone even. Warzone Firefight would be fine. Campaign would be fine. Elite’s only PVP would be fine. Just not Elites and Spartans in PVP. “Your precious SWAT” Lol, god that was a stupid thing to say. But it doesn’t beat your last line: “You see Arctic, you can’t kill, what WON’T DIE” facepalm So stupid, lol.
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> > Yeah, ok, I’m being selfish because I want Halo 5 to remain balanced and fair.
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> You are selfish, you feel that we don’t deserve a feature we’ve always had because you don’t agree with it, and quit whining about competitiveness, if they keep elites out of arena then you can stop whining. I canst stand people who cry over hit boxes, boohoo

You’re the selfish one. You can have your Elites, just don’t bring them into PVP with Spartans. That’s all I’m saying. Ok, lol, I guess you never played Halo 2 or 3 and have no idea how frustrating it was to constantly not be able to kill Elites from behind.

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I enjoyed playing as a Blarg in Halo 3 lol

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> Artic here fights with passion, but for the wrong cause.
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> You mentioned that I didn’t include footage in that old post. Check back. I did.
> But I’m a nice guy and here’s the link again:
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnsFti1I9s8
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> Sorry that you have to copy and paste that, I need to figure that out still.
> And I just read through all of those posts since my last one. I think they changed the mechanic for headshotting Elites. I can recreate the video that I’ve linked above on my 360 copy of Halo 3, but not in MCC. Maybe I’m not precise enough?
> Strange, isn’t it?
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> Another note, in the video you aim on the tip of the neck. I aim at that black panel and I’m fine. Maybe because of the fact that they’re hunched over it counts as hitting the shoulders or something? idk.
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> RZI, unless we see the engine rebuilt from scratch for Halo 6, I don’t think Split-Screen is coming back…
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> Let’s just stop with this argument here shall we? I mean, two pages of that is already more than enough, right?

You must have edited it then, because it wasn’t there originally. Check the quote from you that I added to my comment:
"Did anyone read my post? It’s been proven (many times) that they held NO ADVANTAGE. They used the same hitboxes as Spartans (though this was changed in Reach).
Here’s some ancient footage of someone equally annoyed as me for saying this:

What? You meant that it was harder to see their heads from behind and knew this already? If it wasn’t obvious to shoot them in the back of the neck then I don’t think you have much hope playing SWAT in MCC or whatever…
Also, I’m sure somewhere in the lore Elites do actually use the War Games simulation to train. Mainly with other Elites…"
It wasn’t there. But whatevs, you posted it now.

I can’t really tell because of that video’s poor quality, but it looks like they were all frontal shots. There isn’t any major problem with frontal shots on Elites. I’m talking about the advantage they have when they have their backs towards you. Did you watch my videos?
No biggy :wink: Don’t mind having to copy and paste. But if you want to make a link, you just have to highlight the words you want to make a link and then click that chain-link button next to the caution sign.

Yeah, I dunno, I tried it many different ways. I shot the Elite from behind at the same point I shot the Spartan from behind, and then I even tried my best to actually hit the head of the Elite, but still, it acted like I was hitting their back.

Yup, unfortunately we won’t be getting split-screen for Halo 5, but it sounds like 343 got the message, so they are going to make sure it’s in Halo 6. :slight_smile:

Haha, yeah, I’m thinking so. Thanks for not completely attacking me like everyone else. You’re a good guy. :wink:

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> > > You can’t kill Immortality, this thread is a testament to immortality, progress can’t be halted and if it can certainly not by some disrespective person who can’t defend him/her/itself with relevant facts.
> > >
> > > You can’t insult us and comment on our ‘idiocy’ with little proof or respect when all we have done is hope, respect and use the common decency and facts. Halo Reach with Elites playable was excellent. And Reach to this day still hasn’t died like other games. We are stating the benefits to Halo this would make. So go ahead, keep throwing unsupported insults at us all day long, but know that if you are attempting to kill this thread…it’s just immortal.
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> > > Nuff said.
> >
> >
> > According to the service record this troll did not play any Halo game until Halo 4, guess that answers a lot of questions, and makes clear that he is a liar who is trying to bother us, now he has begun to insult people, my suggestion is call out for a Monitor to kick him out from here before he can drive mad someone and endanger this thread.
>
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> I changed my gamertag multiple times, jerk. I’ve played Halo longer than you have probably. I started on CE, before Halo 2 came out. My old gamertag was an orange peal. I even have a screenshot from this one amazing time I got a Killimanjaro for the first time, which was the highest multikill you could get at the time (Halo 2, before Killtastrophe, Killpocalypse, and Killionaire were added). http://i.imgur.com/hQm7htO.jpg
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> Now I’VE begun to insult people? For the record, Shadow DRAC 086 called me ignorant, The RZI Guy called me stupid, and now you are calling me a liar. So I’m going to call all of you hypocrites. You can insult me, but I’m not allowed to insult you? That’s hypocrisy.

Lol, just read the beginning of your post, “jerk”, ignorant is not an insult, neither liar, but I’m well aware that the forum automatically writes “Yoink” instead of a word that begins with “F”, so yes, you have insulted people in this thread.

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> > > > You can’t kill Immortality, this thread is a testament to immortality, progress can’t be halted and if it can certainly not by some disrespective person who can’t defend him/her/itself with relevant facts.
> > > >
> > > > You can’t insult us and comment on our ‘idiocy’ with little proof or respect when all we have done is hope, respect and use the common decency and facts. Halo Reach with Elites playable was excellent. And Reach to this day still hasn’t died like other games. We are stating the benefits to Halo this would make. So go ahead, keep throwing unsupported insults at us all day long, but know that if you are attempting to kill this thread…it’s just immortal.
> > > >
> > > > Nuff said.
> > >
> > >
> > > According to the service record this troll did not play any Halo game until Halo 4, guess that answers a lot of questions, and makes clear that he is a liar who is trying to bother us, now he has begun to insult people, my suggestion is call out for a Monitor to kick him out from here before he can drive mad someone and endanger this thread.
> >
> >
> > I changed my gamertag multiple times, jerk. I’ve played Halo longer than you have probably. I started on CE, before Halo 2 came out. My old gamertag was an orange peal. I even have a screenshot from this one amazing time I got a Killimanjaro for the first time, which was the highest multikill you could get at the time (Halo 2, before Killtastrophe, Killpocalypse, and Killionaire were added). http://i.imgur.com/hQm7htO.jpg
> >
> > Now I’VE begun to insult people? For the record, Shadow DRAC 086 called me ignorant, The RZI Guy called me stupid, and now you are calling me a liar. So I’m going to call all of you hypocrites. You can insult me, but I’m not allowed to insult you? That’s hypocrisy.
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> Lol, just read the beginning of your post, “jerk”, ignorant is not an insult, neither liar, but I’m well aware that the forum automatically writes “Yoink” instead of a word that begins with “F”, so yes, you have insulted people in this thread.

Lol, how is calling me a liar when I’m not lying, not an insult? Ignorant is also an insult, just as much as calling me stupid is. The forum replaces any “curse” word with -Yoink-. Go find a quote from me with a -Yoink- in it (from this thread). Uh, I never said I haven’t insulted people on this thread. I just insulted you by calling you a jerk. I admit that. You are a jerk for calling me a liar despite not knowing me at all. But you all insulted me many times as well. So are we done with this pointless argument about who insulted who? lol

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> > You mentioned that I didn’t include footage in that old post. Check back. I did.
> > But I’m a nice guy and here’s the link again:
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnsFti1I9s8
> >
> > Sorry that you have to copy and paste that, I need to figure that out still.
> > And I just read through all of those posts since my last one. I think they changed the mechanic for headshotting Elites. I can recreate the video that I’ve linked above on my 360 copy of Halo 3, but not in MCC. Maybe I’m not precise enough?
> > Strange, isn’t it?
> >
> > Another note, in the video you aim on the tip of the neck. I aim at that black panel and I’m fine. Maybe because of the fact that they’re hunched over it counts as hitting the shoulders or something? idk.
> >
> > RZI, unless we see the engine rebuilt from scratch for Halo 6, I don’t think Split-Screen is coming back…
> >
> > Let’s just stop with this argument here shall we? I mean, two pages of that is already more than enough, right?
>
>
> You must have edited it then, because it wasn’t there originally. Check the quote from you that I added to my comment:
> “Did anyone read my post? It’s been proven (many times) that they held NO ADVANTAGE. They used the same hitboxes as Spartans (though this was changed in Reach).
> Here’s some ancient footage of someone equally annoyed as me for saying this:
>
> What? You meant that it was harder to see their heads from behind and knew this already? If it wasn’t obvious to shoot them in the back of the neck then I don’t think you have much hope playing SWAT in MCC or whatever…
> Also, I’m sure somewhere in the lore Elites do actually use the War Games simulation to train. Mainly with other Elites…”
> It wasn’t there. But whatevs, you posted it now.
>
> I can’t really tell because of that video’s poor quality, but it looks like they were all frontal shots. There isn’t any major problem with frontal shots on Elites. I’m talking about the advantage they have when they have their backs towards you. Did you watch my videos?
> No biggy :wink: Don’t mind having to copy and paste. But if you want to make a link, you just have to highlight the words you want to make a link and then click that chain-link button next to the caution sign.
>
> Yeah, I dunno, I tried it many different ways. I shot the Elite from behind at the same point I shot the Spartan from behind, and then I even tried my best to actually hit the head of the Elite, but still, it acted like I was hitting their back.
>
> Yup, unfortunately we won’t be getting split-screen for Halo 5, but it sounds like 343 got the message, so they are going to make sure it’s in Halo 6. :slight_smile:
>
> Haha, yeah, I’m thinking so. Thanks for not completely attacking me like everyone else. You’re a good guy. :wink:

If there is one thing you and I can actually agree on, it’s for Split-Screen to return in Halo 6

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> > > Artic here fights with passion, but for the wrong cause.
> > >
> > > You mentioned that I didn’t include footage in that old post. Check back. I did.
> > > But I’m a nice guy and here’s the link again:
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnsFti1I9s8
> > >
> > > Sorry that you have to copy and paste that, I need to figure that out still.
> > > And I just read through all of those posts since my last one. I think they changed the mechanic for headshotting Elites. I can recreate the video that I’ve linked above on my 360 copy of Halo 3, but not in MCC. Maybe I’m not precise enough?
> > > Strange, isn’t it?
> > >
> > > Another note, in the video you aim on the tip of the neck. I aim at that black panel and I’m fine. Maybe because of the fact that they’re hunched over it counts as hitting the shoulders or something? idk.
> > >
> > > RZI, unless we see the engine rebuilt from scratch for Halo 6, I don’t think Split-Screen is coming back…
> > >
> > > Let’s just stop with this argument here shall we? I mean, two pages of that is already more than enough, right?
> >
> >
> > You must have edited it then, because it wasn’t there originally. Check the quote from you that I added to my comment:
> > “Did anyone read my post? It’s been proven (many times) that they held NO ADVANTAGE. They used the same hitboxes as Spartans (though this was changed in Reach).
> > Here’s some ancient footage of someone equally annoyed as me for saying this:
> >
> > What? You meant that it was harder to see their heads from behind and knew this already? If it wasn’t obvious to shoot them in the back of the neck then I don’t think you have much hope playing SWAT in MCC or whatever…
> > Also, I’m sure somewhere in the lore Elites do actually use the War Games simulation to train. Mainly with other Elites…”
> > It wasn’t there. But whatevs, you posted it now.
> >
> > I can’t really tell because of that video’s poor quality, but it looks like they were all frontal shots. There isn’t any major problem with frontal shots on Elites. I’m talking about the advantage they have when they have their backs towards you. Did you watch my videos?
> > No biggy :wink: Don’t mind having to copy and paste. But if you want to make a link, you just have to highlight the words you want to make a link and then click that chain-link button next to the caution sign.
> >
> > Yeah, I dunno, I tried it many different ways. I shot the Elite from behind at the same point I shot the Spartan from behind, and then I even tried my best to actually hit the head of the Elite, but still, it acted like I was hitting their back.
> >
> > Yup, unfortunately we won’t be getting split-screen for Halo 5, but it sounds like 343 got the message, so they are going to make sure it’s in Halo 6. :slight_smile:
> >
> > Haha, yeah, I’m thinking so. Thanks for not completely attacking me like everyone else. You’re a good guy. :wink:
>
>
> If there is one thing you and I can actually agree on, it’s for Split-Screen to return in Halo 6

Haha, yeah, I think pretty much the entire Halo community can agree on that one! I don’t blame 343 too much though, I understand they were dealing with an entirely new console and an entirely new engine. I’m sure just dealing with those two things was quite time consuming. But now that they’re done with that, it shouldn’t be as hard for them to add it to Halo 6.

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> > > > Artic here fights with passion, but for the wrong cause.
> > > >
> > > > You mentioned that I didn’t include footage in that old post. Check back. I did.
> > > > But I’m a nice guy and here’s the link again:
> > > >
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnsFti1I9s8
> > > >
> > > > Sorry that you have to copy and paste that, I need to figure that out still.
> > > > And I just read through all of those posts since my last one. I think they changed the mechanic for headshotting Elites. I can recreate the video that I’ve linked above on my 360 copy of Halo 3, but not in MCC. Maybe I’m not precise enough?
> > > > Strange, isn’t it?
> > > >
> > > > Another note, in the video you aim on the tip of the neck. I aim at that black panel and I’m fine. Maybe because of the fact that they’re hunched over it counts as hitting the shoulders or something? idk.
> > > >
> > > > RZI, unless we see the engine rebuilt from scratch for Halo 6, I don’t think Split-Screen is coming back…
> > > >
> > > > Let’s just stop with this argument here shall we? I mean, two pages of that is already more than enough, right?
> > >
> > >
> > > You must have edited it then, because it wasn’t there originally. Check the quote from you that I added to my comment:
> > > “Did anyone read my post? It’s been proven (many times) that they held NO ADVANTAGE. They used the same hitboxes as Spartans (though this was changed in Reach).
> > > Here’s some ancient footage of someone equally annoyed as me for saying this:
> > >
> > > What? You meant that it was harder to see their heads from behind and knew this already? If it wasn’t obvious to shoot them in the back of the neck then I don’t think you have much hope playing SWAT in MCC or whatever…
> > > Also, I’m sure somewhere in the lore Elites do actually use the War Games simulation to train. Mainly with other Elites…”
> > > It wasn’t there. But whatevs, you posted it now.
> > >
> > > I can’t really tell because of that video’s poor quality, but it looks like they were all frontal shots. There isn’t any major problem with frontal shots on Elites. I’m talking about the advantage they have when they have their backs towards you. Did you watch my videos?
> > > No biggy :wink: Don’t mind having to copy and paste. But if you want to make a link, you just have to highlight the words you want to make a link and then click that chain-link button next to the caution sign.
> > >
> > > Yeah, I dunno, I tried it many different ways. I shot the Elite from behind at the same point I shot the Spartan from behind, and then I even tried my best to actually hit the head of the Elite, but still, it acted like I was hitting their back.
> > >
> > > Yup, unfortunately we won’t be getting split-screen for Halo 5, but it sounds like 343 got the message, so they are going to make sure it’s in Halo 6. :slight_smile:
> > >
> > > Haha, yeah, I’m thinking so. Thanks for not completely attacking me like everyone else. You’re a good guy. :wink:
> >
> >
> > If there is one thing you and I can actually agree on, it’s for Split-Screen to return in Halo 6
>
>
> Haha, yeah, I think pretty much the entire Halo community can agree on that one! I don’t blame 343 too much though, I understand they were dealing with an entirely new console and an entirely new engine. I’m sure just just dealing with those two things was quite time consuming. But now that they’re done with that, it shouldn’t be as hard for them to add it to Halo 6.

True, can’t blame them for Forge not being at launch either, they tried to make it as good as they could and they succeeded.

Look, I’m willing to let bygones be bygones, let’s just agree to disagree about playable Elites and just move on

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> > > > > Artic here fights with passion, but for the wrong cause.
> > > > >
> > > > > You mentioned that I didn’t include footage in that old post. Check back. I did.
> > > > > But I’m a nice guy and here’s the link again:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnsFti1I9s8
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry that you have to copy and paste that, I need to figure that out still.
> > > > > And I just read through all of those posts since my last one. I think they changed the mechanic for headshotting Elites. I can recreate the video that I’ve linked above on my 360 copy of Halo 3, but not in MCC. Maybe I’m not precise enough?
> > > > > Strange, isn’t it?
> > > > >
> > > > > Another note, in the video you aim on the tip of the neck. I aim at that black panel and I’m fine. Maybe because of the fact that they’re hunched over it counts as hitting the shoulders or something? idk.
> > > > >
> > > > > RZI, unless we see the engine rebuilt from scratch for Halo 6, I don’t think Split-Screen is coming back…
> > > > >
> > > > > Let’s just stop with this argument here shall we? I mean, two pages of that is already more than enough, right?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You must have edited it then, because it wasn’t there originally. Check the quote from you that I added to my comment:
> > > > “Did anyone read my post? It’s been proven (many times) that they held NO ADVANTAGE. They used the same hitboxes as Spartans (though this was changed in Reach).
> > > > Here’s some ancient footage of someone equally annoyed as me for saying this:
> > > >
> > > > What? You meant that it was harder to see their heads from behind and knew this already? If it wasn’t obvious to shoot them in the back of the neck then I don’t think you have much hope playing SWAT in MCC or whatever…
> > > > Also, I’m sure somewhere in the lore Elites do actually use the War Games simulation to train. Mainly with other Elites…”
> > > > It wasn’t there. But whatevs, you posted it now.
> > > >
> > > > I can’t really tell because of that video’s poor quality, but it looks like they were all frontal shots. There isn’t any major problem with frontal shots on Elites. I’m talking about the advantage they have when they have their backs towards you. Did you watch my videos?
> > > > No biggy :wink: Don’t mind having to copy and paste. But if you want to make a link, you just have to highlight the words you want to make a link and then click that chain-link button next to the caution sign.
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, I dunno, I tried it many different ways. I shot the Elite from behind at the same point I shot the Spartan from behind, and then I even tried my best to actually hit the head of the Elite, but still, it acted like I was hitting their back.
> > > >
> > > > Yup, unfortunately we won’t be getting split-screen for Halo 5, but it sounds like 343 got the message, so they are going to make sure it’s in Halo 6. :slight_smile:
> > > >
> > > > Haha, yeah, I’m thinking so. Thanks for not completely attacking me like everyone else. You’re a good guy. :wink:
> > >
> > >
> > > If there is one thing you and I can actually agree on, it’s for Split-Screen to return in Halo 6
> >
> >
> > Haha, yeah, I think pretty much the entire Halo community can agree on that one! I don’t blame 343 too much though, I understand they were dealing with an entirely new console and an entirely new engine. I’m sure just just dealing with those two things was quite time consuming. But now that they’re done with that, it shouldn’t be as hard for them to add it to Halo 6.
>
>
> True, can’t blame them for Forge not being at launch either, they tried to make it as good as they could and they succeeded.
>
> Look, I’m willing to let bygones be bygones, let’s just agree to disagree about playable Elites and just move on

Nope we want them

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> > > > > Artic here fights with passion, but for the wrong cause.
> > > > >
> > > > > You mentioned that I didn’t include footage in that old post. Check back. I did.
> > > > > But I’m a nice guy and here’s the link again:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnsFti1I9s8
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry that you have to copy and paste that, I need to figure that out still.
> > > > > And I just read through all of those posts since my last one. I think they changed the mechanic for headshotting Elites. I can recreate the video that I’ve linked above on my 360 copy of Halo 3, but not in MCC. Maybe I’m not precise enough?
> > > > > Strange, isn’t it?
> > > > >
> > > > > Another note, in the video you aim on the tip of the neck. I aim at that black panel and I’m fine. Maybe because of the fact that they’re hunched over it counts as hitting the shoulders or something? idk.
> > > > >
> > > > > RZI, unless we see the engine rebuilt from scratch for Halo 6, I don’t think Split-Screen is coming back…
> > > > >
> > > > > Let’s just stop with this argument here shall we? I mean, two pages of that is already more than enough, right?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You must have edited it then, because it wasn’t there originally. Check the quote from you that I added to my comment:
> > > > “Did anyone read my post? It’s been proven (many times) that they held NO ADVANTAGE. They used the same hitboxes as Spartans (though this was changed in Reach).
> > > > Here’s some ancient footage of someone equally annoyed as me for saying this:
> > > >
> > > > What? You meant that it was harder to see their heads from behind and knew this already? If it wasn’t obvious to shoot them in the back of the neck then I don’t think you have much hope playing SWAT in MCC or whatever…
> > > > Also, I’m sure somewhere in the lore Elites do actually use the War Games simulation to train. Mainly with other Elites…”
> > > > It wasn’t there. But whatevs, you posted it now.
> > > >
> > > > I can’t really tell because of that video’s poor quality, but it looks like they were all frontal shots. There isn’t any major problem with frontal shots on Elites. I’m talking about the advantage they have when they have their backs towards you. Did you watch my videos?
> > > > No biggy :wink: Don’t mind having to copy and paste. But if you want to make a link, you just have to highlight the words you want to make a link and then click that chain-link button next to the caution sign.
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, I dunno, I tried it many different ways. I shot the Elite from behind at the same point I shot the Spartan from behind, and then I even tried my best to actually hit the head of the Elite, but still, it acted like I was hitting their back.
> > > >
> > > > Yup, unfortunately we won’t be getting split-screen for Halo 5, but it sounds like 343 got the message, so they are going to make sure it’s in Halo 6. :slight_smile:
> > > >
> > > > Haha, yeah, I’m thinking so. Thanks for not completely attacking me like everyone else. You’re a good guy. :wink:
> > >
> > >
> > > If there is one thing you and I can actually agree on, it’s for Split-Screen to return in Halo 6
> >
> >
> > Haha, yeah, I think pretty much the entire Halo community can agree on that one! I don’t blame 343 too much though, I understand they were dealing with an entirely new console and an entirely new engine. I’m sure just just dealing with those two things was quite time consuming. But now that they’re done with that, it shouldn’t be as hard for them to add it to Halo 6.
>
>
> True, can’t blame them for Forge not being at launch either, they tried to make it as good as they could and they succeeded.
>
> Look, I’m willing to let bygones be bygones, let’s just agree to disagree about playable Elites and just move on

Yeah, Forge is great. Really impressed with what people have been able to do with it. That Valhalla remake by no god anywhere was perfect. Almost looks like it was pulled straight out of Halo 3. Eagle Square is one of my favorite BTB maps now. SHIFTY time did an amazing job on it, especially with the fact that it’s an entirely new map.

I agree, nothing left to argue about on that topic. lol

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> > > > > > Artic here fights with passion, but for the wrong cause.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You mentioned that I didn’t include footage in that old post. Check back. I did.
> > > > > > But I’m a nice guy and here’s the link again:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnsFti1I9s8
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sorry that you have to copy and paste that, I need to figure that out still.
> > > > > > And I just read through all of those posts since my last one. I think they changed the mechanic for headshotting Elites. I can recreate the video that I’ve linked above on my 360 copy of Halo 3, but not in MCC. Maybe I’m not precise enough?
> > > > > > Strange, isn’t it?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Another note, in the video you aim on the tip of the neck. I aim at that black panel and I’m fine. Maybe because of the fact that they’re hunched over it counts as hitting the shoulders or something? idk.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > RZI, unless we see the engine rebuilt from scratch for Halo 6, I don’t think Split-Screen is coming back…
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Let’s just stop with this argument here shall we? I mean, two pages of that is already more than enough, right?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You must have edited it then, because it wasn’t there originally. Check the quote from you that I added to my comment:
> > > > > “Did anyone read my post? It’s been proven (many times) that they held NO ADVANTAGE. They used the same hitboxes as Spartans (though this was changed in Reach).
> > > > > Here’s some ancient footage of someone equally annoyed as me for saying this:
> > > > >
> > > > > What? You meant that it was harder to see their heads from behind and knew this already? If it wasn’t obvious to shoot them in the back of the neck then I don’t think you have much hope playing SWAT in MCC or whatever…
> > > > > Also, I’m sure somewhere in the lore Elites do actually use the War Games simulation to train. Mainly with other Elites…”
> > > > > It wasn’t there. But whatevs, you posted it now.
> > > > >
> > > > > I can’t really tell because of that video’s poor quality, but it looks like they were all frontal shots. There isn’t any major problem with frontal shots on Elites. I’m talking about the advantage they have when they have their backs towards you. Did you watch my videos?
> > > > > No biggy :wink: Don’t mind having to copy and paste. But if you want to make a link, you just have to highlight the words you want to make a link and then click that chain-link button next to the caution sign.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeah, I dunno, I tried it many different ways. I shot the Elite from behind at the same point I shot the Spartan from behind, and then I even tried my best to actually hit the head of the Elite, but still, it acted like I was hitting their back.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yup, unfortunately we won’t be getting split-screen for Halo 5, but it sounds like 343 got the message, so they are going to make sure it’s in Halo 6. :slight_smile:
> > > > >
> > > > > Haha, yeah, I’m thinking so. Thanks for not completely attacking me like everyone else. You’re a good guy. :wink:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If there is one thing you and I can actually agree on, it’s for Split-Screen to return in Halo 6
> > >
> > >
> > > Haha, yeah, I think pretty much the entire Halo community can agree on that one! I don’t blame 343 too much though, I understand they were dealing with an entirely new console and an entirely new engine. I’m sure just just dealing with those two things was quite time consuming. But now that they’re done with that, it shouldn’t be as hard for them to add it to Halo 6.
> >
> >
> > True, can’t blame them for Forge not being at launch either, they tried to make it as good as they could and they succeeded.
> >
> > Look, I’m willing to let bygones be bygones, let’s just agree to disagree about playable Elites and just move on
>
>
> Nope we want them

For the record, I just want to say, I’m fine with playable Elites in Halo 5 (or 6). Just don’t mix them with Spartans in any PVP. The only way I would be ok with both Elites and Spartans in PVP is if there was some kind of gametype where one team is forced to be all Elites, while the opposing team is forced to all be Spartans. Then you could trade off with each round, with like 3-5 rounds. Like an Aliens VS Humans Breakout or something. Wasn’t something similar done in Reach? Or maybe it was Halo 4?

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So, Arctic seems like a good guy and I see where he is coming from, but bro, you are wasting your time arguing with these guys because they won’t change their opinion nor will I. However, you have stirred up quite a bit of activity for this thread so thanks for that I suppose. :slight_smile: I have to say though that I think having Elites limited to game modes such as an invasion-like Spartan vs Elite game mode and customs is very fair because those who feel as strongly about it as you do have complete control to avoid that one particular game mode should it be reintroduced in future titles. I commend you for your bravery to speak your mind in this hostile territory though. XD You have provided good evidence from the MCC that it was more difficult to take Elites down from behind in that player model. Reach did not have that problem though because their head were pushed up. Like I said in an earlier post, there is a fair compromise to be had in this situation. In my opinion, if they do return to multiplayer, it will be done in a way that will work such as the way I just mentioned, so you probably don’t need to worry about it at all. I’m sure 343 would take all aspects of their addition into consideration and make it work if they have the mind to, which they may never. Who knows? Let’s just wait and see. In the meantime, the people that really want this will continue to ask and perhaps it will gain enough popularity that we will see something that works for everyone. It’s very possible!

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> > > > > > > Artic here fights with passion, but for the wrong cause.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You mentioned that I didn’t include footage in that old post. Check back. I did.
> > > > > > > But I’m a nice guy and here’s the link again:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnsFti1I9s8
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sorry that you have to copy and paste that, I need to figure that out still.
> > > > > > > And I just read through all of those posts since my last one. I think they changed the mechanic for headshotting Elites. I can recreate the video that I’ve linked above on my 360 copy of Halo 3, but not in MCC. Maybe I’m not precise enough?
> > > > > > > Strange, isn’t it?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Another note, in the video you aim on the tip of the neck. I aim at that black panel and I’m fine. Maybe because of the fact that they’re hunched over it counts as hitting the shoulders or something? idk.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > RZI, unless we see the engine rebuilt from scratch for Halo 6, I don’t think Split-Screen is coming back…
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Let’s just stop with this argument here shall we? I mean, two pages of that is already more than enough, right?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You must have edited it then, because it wasn’t there originally. Check the quote from you that I added to my comment:
> > > > > > “Did anyone read my post? It’s been proven (many times) that they held NO ADVANTAGE. They used the same hitboxes as Spartans (though this was changed in Reach).
> > > > > > Here’s some ancient footage of someone equally annoyed as me for saying this:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What? You meant that it was harder to see their heads from behind and knew this already? If it wasn’t obvious to shoot them in the back of the neck then I don’t think you have much hope playing SWAT in MCC or whatever…
> > > > > > Also, I’m sure somewhere in the lore Elites do actually use the War Games simulation to train. Mainly with other Elites…”
> > > > > > It wasn’t there. But whatevs, you posted it now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I can’t really tell because of that video’s poor quality, but it looks like they were all frontal shots. There isn’t any major problem with frontal shots on Elites. I’m talking about the advantage they have when they have their backs towards you. Did you watch my videos?
> > > > > > No biggy :wink: Don’t mind having to copy and paste. But if you want to make a link, you just have to highlight the words you want to make a link and then click that chain-link button next to the caution sign.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yeah, I dunno, I tried it many different ways. I shot the Elite from behind at the same point I shot the Spartan from behind, and then I even tried my best to actually hit the head of the Elite, but still, it acted like I was hitting their back.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yup, unfortunately we won’t be getting split-screen for Halo 5, but it sounds like 343 got the message, so they are going to make sure it’s in Halo 6. :slight_smile:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Haha, yeah, I’m thinking so. Thanks for not completely attacking me like everyone else. You’re a good guy. :wink:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > If there is one thing you and I can actually agree on, it’s for Split-Screen to return in Halo 6
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Haha, yeah, I think pretty much the entire Halo community can agree on that one! I don’t blame 343 too much though, I understand they were dealing with an entirely new console and an entirely new engine. I’m sure just just dealing with those two things was quite time consuming. But now that they’re done with that, it shouldn’t be as hard for them to add it to Halo 6.
> > >
> > >
> > > True, can’t blame them for Forge not being at launch either, they tried to make it as good as they could and they succeeded.
> > >
> > > Look, I’m willing to let bygones be bygones, let’s just agree to disagree about playable Elites and just move on
> >
> >
> > Nope we want them
>
>
> For the record, I just want to say, I’m fine with playable Elites in Halo 5 (or 6). Just don’t mix them with Spartans in any PVP. The only way I would be ok with both Elites and Spartans in PVP is if there was some kind of gametype where one team is forced to be all Elites, while the opposing team is forced to all be Spartans. Then you could trade off with each round, with like 3-5 rounds. Like an Aliens VS Humans Breakout or something. Wasn’t something similar done in Reach? Or maybe it was Halo 4?

It was reach and that’s pretty much what everyone has been arguing to you the whole time lol.

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> > > > > > > Artic here fights with passion, but for the wrong cause.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You mentioned that I didn’t include footage in that old post. Check back. I did.
> > > > > > > But I’m a nice guy and here’s the link again:
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> > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnsFti1I9s8
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> > > > > > > Sorry that you have to copy and paste that, I need to figure that out still.
> > > > > > > And I just read through all of those posts since my last one. I think they changed the mechanic for headshotting Elites. I can recreate the video that I’ve linked above on my 360 copy of Halo 3, but not in MCC. Maybe I’m not precise enough?
> > > > > > > Strange, isn’t it?
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> > > > > > > Another note, in the video you aim on the tip of the neck. I aim at that black panel and I’m fine. Maybe because of the fact that they’re hunched over it counts as hitting the shoulders or something? idk.
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> > > > > > > RZI, unless we see the engine rebuilt from scratch for Halo 6, I don’t think Split-Screen is coming back…
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> > > > > > > Let’s just stop with this argument here shall we? I mean, two pages of that is already more than enough, right?
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> > > > > > You must have edited it then, because it wasn’t there originally. Check the quote from you that I added to my comment:
> > > > > > “Did anyone read my post? It’s been proven (many times) that they held NO ADVANTAGE. They used the same hitboxes as Spartans (though this was changed in Reach).
> > > > > > Here’s some ancient footage of someone equally annoyed as me for saying this:
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> > > > > > What? You meant that it was harder to see their heads from behind and knew this already? If it wasn’t obvious to shoot them in the back of the neck then I don’t think you have much hope playing SWAT in MCC or whatever…
> > > > > > Also, I’m sure somewhere in the lore Elites do actually use the War Games simulation to train. Mainly with other Elites…”
> > > > > > It wasn’t there. But whatevs, you posted it now.
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> > > > > > I can’t really tell because of that video’s poor quality, but it looks like they were all frontal shots. There isn’t any major problem with frontal shots on Elites. I’m talking about the advantage they have when they have their backs towards you. Did you watch my videos?
> > > > > > No biggy :wink: Don’t mind having to copy and paste. But if you want to make a link, you just have to highlight the words you want to make a link and then click that chain-link button next to the caution sign.
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> > > > > > Yeah, I dunno, I tried it many different ways. I shot the Elite from behind at the same point I shot the Spartan from behind, and then I even tried my best to actually hit the head of the Elite, but still, it acted like I was hitting their back.
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> > > > > > Yup, unfortunately we won’t be getting split-screen for Halo 5, but it sounds like 343 got the message, so they are going to make sure it’s in Halo 6. :slight_smile:
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> > > > > > Haha, yeah, I’m thinking so. Thanks for not completely attacking me like everyone else. You’re a good guy. :wink:
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> > > > > If there is one thing you and I can actually agree on, it’s for Split-Screen to return in Halo 6
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> > > > Haha, yeah, I think pretty much the entire Halo community can agree on that one! I don’t blame 343 too much though, I understand they were dealing with an entirely new console and an entirely new engine. I’m sure just just dealing with those two things was quite time consuming. But now that they’re done with that, it shouldn’t be as hard for them to add it to Halo 6.
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> > > True, can’t blame them for Forge not being at launch either, they tried to make it as good as they could and they succeeded.
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> > > Look, I’m willing to let bygones be bygones, let’s just agree to disagree about playable Elites and just move on
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> > Nope we want them
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> For the record, I just want to say, I’m fine with playable Elites in Halo 5 (or 6). Just don’t mix them with Spartans in any PVP. The only way I would be ok with both Elites and Spartans in PVP is if there was some kind of gametype where one team is forced to be all Elites, while the opposing team is forced to all be Spartans. Then you could trade off with each round, with like 3-5 rounds. Like an Aliens VS Humans Breakout or something. Wasn’t something similar done in Reach? Or maybe it was Halo 4?

“The only way I would be ok with both Elites and Spartans in PVP is if there was some kind of gametype where one team is forced to be all Elites, while the opposing team is forced to all be Spartans. Then you could trade off with each round”

That’s pretty much Invasion from Halo: Reach which is my All-Time favorite Halo game mode. I enjoyed it more than even Warzone. If they had playable Elites only for Invasion (and if they bring back Invasion), I’d be 100% satisfied