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> > > Given the ending of Halo 5, Elites should definitely be around.
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> > They will be, just not in multiplayer Matchmaking, because the hitboxes should all be the same for balancing purposes.
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> Invasion say otherwise, Elites have their chances…
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> But I hate how the Banshee in the hands of a Spartan is still broken, an Elite that steal the Scorpion isn’t a big deal, Spartans use cool toys for this, Elites don’t have this for the Banshee, plasma launcher suck for fast targets.
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> The biggest threat for Elites vehicles is the Spartan Laser, Bungie shouldn’t have created that weapon, the Halo 2 rocket launcher was fine, you can avoid but you can’t lose, or maybe you can make the rocket crash on something else.
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> I think the plasma launcher on Hemorrage was added instead of the rocket launcher for that specific purpose : Halo 2 feeling.
Just to go off topic for awhile,the Spartan Laser is the most dangerous weapon to all vehicles,but in that it was designed purely as an anti vehicular weapon,incapable of effectively engaging personnel at close ranges,unlike the rocket launcher.Ultimately its a matter of the weapon’s design.The rocket launcher is a fire and forget weapon,and you can quickly fire another round if the first rocket fails to dispatch w/ the enemy.The Spartan Laser required direct LOS to target,once it goes behind some form of cover its useless,the rocket can track and compensate for alterations in the target’s trajectory.
The rocket launcher’s tracking ability suck, the one from the plasma launcher is good but the plasma bolts themselves are slow, you just can’t destroy a Banshee with the rocket launcher (who use surface-to-surface missiles if I remember) or the plasma launcher) .
And this is the problem with Invasion, once the Spartan team steal the Banshee, Elites are defenseless, their spawn points are open to enemy fire and they don’t have anything good against where Spartans have the sniper rifle, Spartan Laser and non-power weapons like DMR.
Even if the team destroy the Banshee, damage is done, forget about winning from now.
When it come to weapon, Invasion isn’t that possible and it’s sad.
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> Personally, don’t hold your breaths, considering how this thread has still yet to be resolved. Honestly, I think Frank was trolling.
Let us both hope that you are wrong. After the Arbiter’s return I am itching for playable elites to return.
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> The rocket launcher’s tracking ability suck, the one from the plasma launcher is good but the plasma bolts themselves are slow, you just can’t destroy a Banshee with the rocket launcher (who use surface-to-surface missiles if I remember) or the plasma launcher) .
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> And this is the problem with Invasion, once the Spartan team steal the Banshee, Elites are defenseless, their spawn points are open to enemy fire and they don’t have anything good against where Spartans have the sniper rifle, Spartan Laser and non-power weapons like DMR.
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> Even if the team destroy the Banshee, damage is done, forget about winning from now.
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> When it come to weapon, Invasion isn’t that possible and it’s sad.
That doesn’t make any sense at all and has nothing to do with the topic.
Well, adding Elites is possible, we all know that, adding Invasion balanced is another story.
(what doesn’t make sense by the way ? )
Adding Elites should bring Invasion and Spartan Vs. Elites too, that would make things better, non sense adding Elites without this when Reach behind who use those modes.
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> > Personally, don’t hold your breaths, considering how this thread has still yet to be resolved. Honestly, I think Frank was trolling.
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> Let us both hope that you are wrong. After the Arbiter’s return I am itching for playable elites to return.
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> Well, adding Elites is possible, we all know that, adding Invasion balanced is another story.
> (what doesn’t make sense by the way ? )
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> Adding Elites should bring Invasion and Spartan Vs. Elites too, that would make things better, non sense adding Elites without this when Reach behind who use those modes.
If ti did it would be a training scenario since the elite your playing is technically an part of the Arbiters forces
Yeah, I honestly would love to see them in Halo 5 Invasion and custom games. In fact, they NEED to be playable.
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> The only sign of hope in this thread being a joking Twitter post from Frank O’Connor isn’t a good sign.
And I think Frank did that because I called him earlier that day asking him about the possibility of Elites being playable in Halo 5 custom games. But “resources” are not being dedicated to them.
Anyways if you don’t believe that I called him, give Microsoft Studios a call and ask to speak to Frank O’Connor, start a nice conversation about Elites being playable in custom games.
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> Yeah, I honestly would love to see them in Halo 5 Invasion and custom games. In fact, they NEED to be playable.
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> And I think Frank did that because I called him earlier that day asking him about the possibility of Elites being playable in Halo 5 custom games. But “resources” are not being dedicated to them.
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> Anyways if you don’t believe that I called him, give Microsoft Studios a call and ask to speak to Frank O’Connor, start a nice conversation about Elites being playable in custom games.
Indeed, so it proves that canon, balance, and whatever else people are saying is the reason has no bearing on their inclusion.
If they do add elites,I think they should vary the armor. Maybe some classic armor (CE-Reach) and some new Halo 4-5 styled armor. I want elites to be the customizable part they weren’t in Reach. I have respect for the elite fan base,as I am a Spartan that wants to see both fan bases cooperating together.
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> If they do add elites,I think they should vary the armor. Maybe some classic armor (CE-Reach) and some new Halo 4-5 styled armor. I want elites to be the customizable part they weren’t in Reach. I have respect for the elite fan base,as I am a Spartan that wants to see both fan bases cooperating together.
As an Eltie fan, I want the same thing for Spartans. Equality, all things considered on the same level.
They killed their chance of adding elites to multiplayer since they decided to get too serious and incorporate multiplayer into the story, which is mad stupid
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> They killed their chance of adding elites to multiplayer since they decided to get too serious and incorporate multiplayer into the story, which is mad stupid
Canon multiplayer himself is okay, I know another game with a canon multiplayer (and that was the first in the serie to have a multi) .
It’s just a bonus most of the time, this is part of the story but you don’t know how is that side, players make this part of the story.
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> They killed their chance of adding elites to multiplayer since they decided to get too serious and incorporate multiplayer into the story, which is mad stupid
ANVIL and Invasion simulation are canon, so story is not a real excuse to exclude them. However if they do decide to put them on REQ packs, they would need to make new armors, of course I don’t think that would be a problem; if they wasted time on at least a dozen of horrible helmets they surely have time for serious work. Maybe if we start some kind of collect they would do it?
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> > They killed their chance of adding elites to multiplayer since they decided to get too serious and incorporate multiplayer into the story, which is mad stupid
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> ANVIL and Invasion simulation are canon, so story is not a real excuse to exclude them. However if they do decide to put them on REQ packs, they would need to make new armors, of course I don’t think that would be a problem; if they wasted time on at least a dozen of horrible helmets they surely have time for serious work. Maybe if we start some kind of collect they would do it?
Funny that all those “Time and resources” were for those helmets eh?
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> > > They killed their chance of adding elites to multiplayer since they decided to get too serious and incorporate multiplayer into the story, which is mad stupid
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> > ANVIL and Invasion simulation are canon, so story is not a real excuse to exclude them. However if they do decide to put them on REQ packs, they would need to make new armors, of course I don’t think that would be a problem; if they wasted time on at least a dozen of horrible helmets they surely have time for serious work. Maybe if we start some kind of collect they would do it?
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> Funny that all those “Time and resources” were for those helmets eh?
Id take my -Yoink!- elites over the other armor ANY DAY of the week. Reach did it just fine while still maintaining great customization aspects.
