Sangheili (Elites) In New Trilogy Matchmaking (Part 1)

Games Halo 5: Guardians
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> Oh come on this is literally the only consistantly asked for thing. And it wouldnt be hard to do! They got the hit boxes they got the models its an issue of copy paste!
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> In halo ce custom edition on the pc proved this. It would litteraly take 1 person and maybe 2 days total. Just add it as an armor variant and you skip any techincal stuff with making a menu option or anything like that.

How can you know any of this? The last thing I want in Halo 5 is copy and pasted stuff.

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> > 2533274870591903;10581:
> > Oh come on this is literally the only consistantly asked for thing. And it wouldnt be hard to do! They got the hit boxes they got the models its an issue of copy paste!
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> > In halo ce custom edition on the pc proved this. It would litteraly take 1 person and maybe 2 days total. Just add it as an armor variant and you skip any techincal stuff with making a menu option or anything like that.
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> How can you know any of this? The last thing I want in Halo 5 is copy and pasted stuff.

Heres you lesson on game design and no there will be no tl;dr version.

If it anything like any game ever you can move around things. If like any game ever there will be copy paste stuff. Where enemys spawn what type of enemy spawns weapon placements the location of things (rocks grass the like) is copy pasted. If they had to remake everything every time they wanted to place down some grass theyd never be done and we’d see some deviations in art style and level design thatd greatly differ level to level and from location to location wuithin the same level and we wouldnt have any consistantcy.

Making new assets takes a long time to do because its more than just making a model. If i need grass in one spot and a rock in the other im not making hundreds of rocks and grass that all look slightly diffrent. Im going to copy paste 10 if that.

Copy paste isnt a bad thing. Its necessary if you want a complete game that doest feel or look pieced together but is whole if its presentation and play spaces.

Please look at the grass in reach in the first level youll see something.

The models for the arms and legs that you see in first person are chopped from the model armor you are using. Think of you character having floating arms and an extra pair of legs in their legs. The hit box surrounds all of this.
When a gun is made the only things it needs is coding on the player as to how it preforms. The hit box is added to your players and the model you see. Theres no seprate model between what you see on ground and what is in hand.

Basically the first person view for the elites is already made. Its made when they made the whole model of the elites. Theres just some chopping and copy paste that needs be done to have elite legs and arms viewable. Since they can just make it like an armor set that eleminates any coding on player so its not like an alternate character like in a fighting game. Id be like h3, well my sufggestion is less like that as id be more akin to a diffrent armor set to your spartan. The only thing needed to make it unique would be the hud.

I know all of this because i was apart of the HceCE community for many years. it was figured out long ago and so as long as h5 isnt something the world has never seen before it should work like any game ever internally. Theres nothing to make to work with it then add to it , just things that already work with it that are added to it.

Its technical yes but not something that should or would take more than 2 days for 1 person ,who is highly trained, to do. Other than bugs that may appear should they go the reach character select style then we’d have an excuse. Problem is they could have done this long ago.

Long story short 343 can make elites playable.

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> > 2533274833600810;10582:
> > > 2533274870591903;10581:
> > > Oh come on this is literally the only consistantly asked for thing. And it wouldnt be hard to do! They got the hit boxes they got the models its an issue of copy paste!
> > >
> > > In halo ce custom edition on the pc proved this. It would litteraly take 1 person and maybe 2 days total. Just add it as an armor variant and you skip any techincal stuff with making a menu option or anything like that.
> >
> >
> > How can you know any of this? The last thing I want in Halo 5 is copy and pasted stuff.
>
>
> Heres you lesson on game design and no there will be no tl;dr version.
>
> If it anything like any game ever you can move around things. If like any game ever there will be copy paste stuff. Where enemys spawn what type of enemy spawns weapon placements the location of things (rocks grass the like) is copy pasted. If they had to remake everything every time they wanted to place down some grass theyd never be done and we’d see some deviations in art style and level design thatd greatly differ level to level and from location to location wuithin the same level and we wouldnt have any consistantcy.
>
> Making new assets takes a long time to do because its more than just making a model. If i need grass in one spot and a rock in the other im not making hundreds of rocks and grass that all look slightly diffrent. Im going to copy paste 10 if that.
>
> Copy paste isnt a bad thing. Its necessary if you want a complete game that doest feel or look pieced together but is whole if its presentation and play spaces.
>
> Please look at the grass in reach in the first level youll see something.
>
> The models for the arms and legs that you see in first person are chopped from the model armor you are using. Think of you character having floating arms and an extra pair of legs in their legs. The hit box surrounds all of this.
> When a gun is made the only things it needs is coding on the player as to how it preforms. The hit box is added to your players and the model you see. Theres no seprate model between what you see on ground and what is in hand.
>
> Basically the first person view for the elites is already made. Its made when they made the whole model of the elites. Theres just some chopping and copy paste that needs be done to have elite legs and arms viewable. Since they can just make it like an armor set that eleminates any coding on player so its not like an alternate character like in a fighting game. Id be like h3, well my sufggestion is less like that as id be more akin to a diffrent armor set to your spartan. The only thing needed to make it unique would be the hud.
>
> I know all of this because i was apart of the HceCE community for many years. it was figured out long ago and so as long as h5 isnt something the world has never seen before it should work like any game ever internally. Theres nothing to make to work with it then add to it , just things that already work with it that are added to it.
>
> Its technical yes but not something that should or would take more than 2 days for 1 person ,who is highly trained, to do. Other than bugs that may appear should they go the reach character select style then we’d have an excuse. Problem is they could have done this long ago.
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> Long story short 343 can make elites playable.

Indeed.

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> Hi guys! I have some news about elites directly from an italian group (where i am in because i’m italian too) of halo fans!
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> Recently this group was at the gamescom and asked 343i about elites!
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> Here it is the Q&A that i translated in english for you:
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> Q: One of the many revolutions of Halo 2 , then taken by Halo 3 , was to introduce the Elite player game modes . Will they return in Halo 5 ? Maybe as DLC or future upgrades ?
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> A: We currently have no plans to introduce the Elite in Halo multiplayer 5 : Guardians . For future Halo we do not know yet , maybe in the future we will see them come back , who knows !
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> I still hope in a DLC or halo 6 :slight_smile:

This is why I hate 343i, they know we want elites, but they don’t care. Not buying this halo.

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> > 2533274833600810;10582:
> > > 2533274870591903;10581:
> > > Oh come on this is literally the only consistantly asked for thing. And it wouldnt be hard to do! They got the hit boxes they got the models its an issue of copy paste!
> > >
> > > In halo ce custom edition on the pc proved this. It would litteraly take 1 person and maybe 2 days total. Just add it as an armor variant and you skip any techincal stuff with making a menu option or anything like that.
> >
> >
> > How can you know any of this? The last thing I want in Halo 5 is copy and pasted stuff.
>
>
> Heres you lesson on game design and no there will be no tl;dr version.
>
> If it anything like any game ever you can move around things. If like any game ever there will be copy paste stuff. Where enemys spawn what type of enemy spawns weapon placements the location of things (rocks grass the like) is copy pasted. If they had to remake everything every time they wanted to place down some grass theyd never be done and we’d see some deviations in art style and level design thatd greatly differ level to level and from location to location wuithin the same level and we wouldnt have any consistantcy.
>
> Making new assets takes a long time to do because its more than just making a model. If i need grass in one spot and a rock in the other im not making hundreds of rocks and grass that all look slightly diffrent. Im going to copy paste 10 if that.
>
> Copy paste isnt a bad thing. Its necessary if you want a complete game that doest feel or look pieced together but is whole if its presentation and play spaces.
>
> Please look at the grass in reach in the first level youll see something.
>
> The models for the arms and legs that you see in first person are chopped from the model armor you are using. Think of you character having floating arms and an extra pair of legs in their legs. The hit box surrounds all of this.
> When a gun is made the only things it needs is coding on the player as to how it preforms. The hit box is added to your players and the model you see. Theres no seprate model between what you see on ground and what is in hand.
>
> Basically the first person view for the elites is already made. Its made when they made the whole model of the elites. Theres just some chopping and copy paste that needs be done to have elite legs and arms viewable. Since they can just make it like an armor set that eleminates any coding on player so its not like an alternate character like in a fighting game. Id be like h3, well my sufggestion is less like that as id be more akin to a diffrent armor set to your spartan. The only thing needed to make it unique would be the hud.
>
> I know all of this because i was apart of the HceCE community for many years. it was figured out long ago and so as long as h5 isnt something the world has never seen before it should work like any game ever internally. Theres nothing to make to work with it then add to it , just things that already work with it that are added to it.
>
> Its technical yes but not something that should or would take more than 2 days for 1 person ,who is highly trained, to do. Other than bugs that may appear should they go the reach character select style then we’d have an excuse. Problem is they could have done this long ago.
>
> Long story short 343 can make elites playable.

I’m sure no one had any doubt that they could make Elites playable. It’s just a matter of them choosing to go a different rout with the multiplayer and tending to the majority of the halo community. If most people would be upset at Elites being in multiplayer in any form then it is understandable that they would neglect us. It’s in their best interest. It’s business. I don’t know how many people are indifferent to the idea of Elites in multiplayer, but in the case that most people are indifferent then there is no reason to neglect us. At this point we can probably only hope that Halo 6 multiplayer will allow it or maybe a spin off of sorts will arise. We have already heard the answer to our question for Elites in halo 5 multiple times in multiple ways so I don’t think that DLC will be coming. I know it’s very difficult accepting no for an answer when it comes to something you have been hoping and waiting for so patiently for so long, but at least we got an answer from them. Not what we wanted to hear, but still an answer.

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I just don’t get it. Why would 343 do this? It’s easy to think that they’re doing this to spite us, but I can’t believe that to be true. If they know that many of us want Elites to be playable again, then they would have nothing to gain thinking of something like “We should leave Elites out of the game because we don’t like their fanbase”, that’s just illogical. The only conclusions I can think of is that they either haven’t noticed this thread (somehow) or they’re focused so much on E-sports and competitive play that they don’t want to risk jeopardizing the games balance by adding different player models.

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> I just don’t get it. Why would 343 do this? It’s easy to think that they’re doing this to spite us, but I can’t believe that to be true. If they know that many of us want Elites to be playable again, then they would have nothing to gain thinking of something like “We should leave Elites out of the game because we don’t like their fanbase”, that’s just illogical. The only conclusions I can think of is that they either haven’t noticed this thread (somehow) or they’re focused so much on E-sports and competitive play that they don’t want to risk jeopardizing the games balance by adding different player models.

Its 343I they can afford to ignore their playerbase like EA does.

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> I just don’t get it. Why would 343 do this? It’s easy to think that they’re doing this to spite us, but I can’t believe that to be true. If they know that many of us want Elites to be playable again, then they would have nothing to gain thinking of something like “We should leave Elites out of the game because we don’t like their fanbase”, that’s just illogical. The only conclusions I can think of is that they either haven’t noticed this thread (somehow) or they’re focused so much on E-sports and competitive play that they don’t want to risk jeopardizing the games balance by adding different player models.

Because they “listen” to their fans. I’m disappointed, I wanted to play this game, but I have no interest in being a spartan but for some god forsaken reason 343 thinks EVERYONE loves playing as spartans, which isn’t true. At all.

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> I just don’t get it. Why would 343 do this? It’s easy to think that they’re doing this to spite us, but I can’t believe that to be true. If they know that many of us want Elites to be playable again, then they would have nothing to gain thinking of something like “We should leave Elites out of the game because we don’t like their fanbase”, that’s just illogical. The only conclusions I can think of is that they either haven’t noticed this thread (somehow) or they’re focused so much on E-sports and competitive play that they don’t want to risk jeopardizing the games balance by adding different player models.

Time constraints, the fact the elites have different hitboxes, and, to be frank, not that many people played as elites to begin with.

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> > I just don’t get it. Why would 343 do this? It’s easy to think that they’re doing this to spite us, but I can’t believe that to be true. If they know that many of us want Elites to be playable again, then they would have nothing to gain thinking of something like “We should leave Elites out of the game because we don’t like their fanbase”, that’s just illogical. The only conclusions I can think of is that they either haven’t noticed this thread (somehow) or they’re focused so much on E-sports and competitive play that they don’t want to risk jeopardizing the games balance by adding different player models.
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> Time constraints, the fact the elites have different hitboxes, and, to be frank, not that many people played as elites to begin with.

That’s not goanna stop anyone from complaining about it.

Most people didn’t even make it to rank 50 that’s why Bungie replaced it with a new ranking system in reach.

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> > 2533274978553590;10587:
> > I just don’t get it. Why would 343 do this? It’s easy to think that they’re doing this to spite us, but I can’t believe that to be true. If they know that many of us want Elites to be playable again, then they would have nothing to gain thinking of something like “We should leave Elites out of the game because we don’t like their fanbase”, that’s just illogical. The only conclusions I can think of is that they either haven’t noticed this thread (somehow) or they’re focused so much on E-sports and competitive play that they don’t want to risk jeopardizing the games balance by adding different player models.
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> Time constraints, the fact the elites have different hitboxes, and, to be frank, not that many people played as elites to begin with.

“Not that Many played as elites to begin with” Um there were a sizable amount of Elite based clans since Halo 2, 3, and Reach, and some still exist even now.

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I really hope they put the elites in this game more than what it looked like they did. Your right, 343 should give us more info.

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> I really hope they put the elites in this game more than what it looked like they did. Your right, 343 should give us more info.

I hope so to.

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I’ve been gone for awhile. Sure it’s a little disheartening but I’m still putting my money on Halo Online. But we have to remain relatively calm and polite I mean we could have given up long ago and the thread would have gone and died ages ago but look at us. We’ve kept our passion alive and with the backwards compatibility we can still enjoy our favorite aliens. I’d say something better and cooler but my brain is mush today.

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> I’ve been gone for awhile. Sure it’s a little disheartening but I’m still putting my money on Halo Online. But we have to remain relatively calm and polite I mean we could have given up long ago and the thread would have gone and died ages ago but look at us. We’ve kept our passion alive and with the backwards compatibility we can still enjoy our favorite aliens. I’d say something better and cooler but my brain is mush today.

Just have to ask…
Was SangSHEili already taken?

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> > I’ve been gone for awhile. Sure it’s a little disheartening but I’m still putting my money on Halo Online. But we have to remain relatively calm and polite I mean we could have given up long ago and the thread would have gone and died ages ago but look at us. We’ve kept our passion alive and with the backwards compatibility we can still enjoy our favorite aliens. I’d say something better and cooler but my brain is mush today.
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> Just have to ask…
> Was SangSHEili already taken?

My question is how you’re supposed to shorten it when addressing her in general conversation and She Sangheili feels like too long of a name. Sang? She? I need something with three syllables or less.

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> I’ve been gone for awhile. Sure it’s a little disheartening but I’m still putting my money on Halo Online. But we have to remain relatively calm and polite I mean we could have given up long ago and the thread would have gone and died ages ago but look at us. We’ve kept our passion alive and with the backwards compatibility we can still enjoy our favorite aliens. I’d say something better and cooler but my brain is mush today.

True. but I think the reason we are all still dosing this is because we want to enjoy the new game but not having playable Elites keeps some of us away from it. lots o fpeople wouldn’t spend money on a game that has nothing for them.

(Also to my fellow Elite fans, Killer Instinct is planning to have more guest characters and the Arbiter is among the requested by the KI fans)

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Haven’t seen a reply in a while…
Seems like that was the middle finger to all of us when they mentioned no plans for us.

I’ll admit, and with great despite, I’ll buy it, for the sake of a friend that’s moving out of country, but that’s it. As soon as he drops the game, I’m done. Haven’t pre-order, haven’t gotten hyped, haven’t a slight motivation other than mentioned to get Halo 5.

Well, 343i, if you ever feel like adding playable Sangheili, I might be back. But meanwhile, thanks for ignoring part of your fanbase, some who have been since the very beginning and some who grew to love it. Thanks.

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I wish to start a fleet on Halo 5, The lack of sangheili won’t stop me from continuing the community into the newer games, hellioskrill will have to do.

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I already said that I wont be buying Halo 5. However, I’ll keep fighting to have Elites return in Halo 6.