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> Been a while since I posted on here, and surprised Agent C hasn’t showed up defending 343I per usual.
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> Anyway, that is one thing that has bothered me so far is the focus on Aesthetics over gameplay. The claim of 343i listening to the community really just irks me, because they didn’t. And to be honest, I honestly feel the “lack of time and resources” is a lie.
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> To recall one thing, isn’t Halo Reach coming to be ported over to the Xbox 1?
Seems to be, and I’ll be look forward to it if it is true.
But hey I’ll find the lack of time to be more logical which would give people a reason to want them in for future DLC. At least we know balance, canon and hitboxes has nothing to do with it.
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> I really hope 343 never implements Elites, full customization or some of these other things into a Halo ever again, then hopefully it will finally force most of you over the top people to leave and I can visit a nice forum again.
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> Sorry, I use to agree with most of you, but with so many people blowing this stuff out of proportion, it makes me hope you guys never get what you want.
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> Split Screen I still understand though, that is a big part of the game.
Usually I would not double post but I feel this had to be address it.
The forums will NEVER be a nice place as long as the following exists
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1: Elitism (As in mistreatment of others because of a lower skill level)
2: people like you are saying its wrong for us to want something in a game.
3: Threads about the same stuff over and over (i.e sprint, BR’s not being the all mighty god of basic weapons, ect.)
4: Accusation of others for their opinions (did you come here because to defend the 1080p decision?)
5: Claiming that he who has the highest skills knows whats best for the game,
6: Trying to label someone as not being true fans for speaking with their wallets
7: Flaming others for choosing to play as aliens and not space marines
**-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------**Until all that I have stated ends here, this forum will never be a nice place. This is why I started playing as a Spartan a lot less.
There is nothing wrong with 1080p, but your attitude and cause for shrinking the community will not save this communities already destroyed grace.
And while we are talking about blowing things out of proportion you might want to look at the other stuff as well. Only the lord knows how many times I have seen topics on sprint. Also, that post of yours will not help either.
So in the words of some of the members here on this forum, you are complaining about complaining.
By the way, how do you expect us to act? I’ve seen people blow things out of proportion over sprint returning in Halo 5, how is that not blowing it out of proportion?
Why was this threaded nechroed?
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> > I really hope 343 never implements Elites, full customization or some of these other things into a Halo ever again, then hopefully it will finally force most of you over the top people to leave and I can visit a nice forum again.
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> > Sorry, I use to agree with most of you, but with so many people blowing this stuff out of proportion, it makes me hope you guys never get what you want.
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> > Split Screen I still understand though, that is a big part of the game.
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> I think you might be seeing the people that actually care as a problem instead of the people that only think they care. In a group this dedicated I think we can all agree that the people here are overwhelmingly part of the former.
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> And can we talk about how some people around here are said to be over-reacting? What are they supposed to do? It’s either they express how they feel about the situation and make it clear that this is an important feature that’s going to effect their decision in buying the game. Or they can just act like someone saying “yeah it’d be nice but there’s no priority, I’ll play the game anyway”. One route has you looking like you’re over-reacting and therefore you don’t deserve to have your request met, or the other route hat you letting your request come off as something that doesn’t need to be looked into with any sense of urgency. Honestly looking at the situation from this perspective I think those people going with the former method probably have the right idea, If you want the communities favor you go with the later method, if you want 343 to take note (actually matters) of this as something that’s urgent you go with the former method and brave the storm that others like you will surely come blowing in.
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> And I’d certainly argue that the fact that this entire issue is contained within one thread only helps the forums health instead of a bunch of annoying clone threads that are made every other day talking about the same damn issue. Remember when it was the norm for there to be a different pack of ordnance threads rolling in every single week? I agreed with the message but the way it ended up being discussed was so disorganized and unnecessarily messy. This thread has been around since before Halo 4 came out and if you think this threads absence means things are going to automatically reset to how things were before in a time so long ago you’re dreaming. It’s a complete disregard to everything else that has effected this forums atmosphere in the past few years. Dropping all the problems you have on Waypoint on just one group of people isn’t cool.
Indeed there are countless other threads out there who are also blowing it out of proportion. This community is by far the worse one I’ve ever been a part of to date. But I choose not o leave because I have not given up on Halo. I’m just choosing to not spend my money on a game that has nothing for me at the moment. If Elites become playable later on then I’ll consider purchasing it. and unless the split-screen isn’t so bad to the point were we can still play MP with our family members and local friends in the same house then it will be a good buy for me.
@TRIPLE ACEZERO
Because the group is disappointed. Its really no different form a complaint about sprint.
Here’s hoping they just lied and Elites are playable in H5. Highly highly doubtful though.
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> Here’s hoping they just lied and Elites are playable in H5. Highly highly doubtful though.
I remember hearing that one before halo 4’s release. xD Even after the game informer about it was released, people still refused to believe it. I also grasped at that tiny sliver of hope at the time. Here’s to hoping once again!
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> > Here’s hoping they just lied and Elites are playable in H5. Highly highly doubtful though.
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> I remember hearing that one before halo 4’s release. xD Even after the game informer about it was released, people still refused to believe it. I also grasped at that tiny sliver of hope at the time. Here’s to hoping once again!
DLC is are only hope for Halo 5 I think.
Hi guys! I have some news about elites directly from an italian group (where i am in because i’m italian too) of halo fans!
Recently this group was at the gamescom and asked 343i about elites!
Here it is the Q&A that i translated in english for you:
Q: One of the many revolutions of Halo 2 , then taken by Halo 3 , was to introduce the Elite player game modes . Will they return in Halo 5 ? Maybe as DLC or future upgrades ?
A: We currently have no plans to introduce the Elite in Halo multiplayer 5 : Guardians . For future Halo we do not know yet , maybe in the future we will see them come back , who knows !
I still hope in a DLC or halo 6 
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> Hi guys! I have some news about elites directly from an italian group (where i am in because i’m italian too) of halo fans!
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> Recently this group was at the gamescom and asked 343i about elites!
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> Here it is the Q&A that i translated in english for you:
>
> Q: One of the many revolutions of Halo 2 , then taken by Halo 3 , was to introduce the Elite player game modes . Will they return in Halo 5 ? Maybe as DLC or future upgrades ?
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> A: We currently have no plans to introduce the Elite in Halo multiplayer 5 : Guardians . For future Halo we do not know yet , maybe in the future we will see them come back , who knows !
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> I still hope in a DLC or halo 6
If they can do that, for DLC then that will give a consideration. If not Halo 5 will be skipped and then we shall wait for Halo 6.
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> Hi guys! I have some news about elites directly from an italian group (where i am in because i’m italian too) of halo fans!
>
> Recently this group was at the gamescom and asked 343i about elites!
>
> Here it is the Q&A that i translated in english for you:
>
> Q: One of the many revolutions of Halo 2 , then taken by Halo 3 , was to introduce the Elite player game modes . Will they return in Halo 5 ? Maybe as DLC or future upgrades ?
>
> A: We currently have no plans to introduce the Elite in Halo multiplayer 5 : Guardians . For future Halo we do not know yet , maybe in the future we will see them come back , who knows !
>
> I still hope in a DLC or halo 6
Dang. That’s kinda disheartening. I hope they change their mind on the DLC angle.
This may be a naive question, but is there any reason for not including Elites in MP? I mean they’ve created a multitude of assets for Elites I’d imagine in the game, so it’s not like its a time or recourse issue. How can there be any logic in not including them? I’m not trying to be smart, I legit don’t know so if anyone can enlighten me it’d be great because all the time in the world isn’t enough to skim this massive thread XD
> 2533274873310189;10569:
> Hi guys! I have some news about elites directly from an italian group (where i am in because i’m italian too) of halo fans!
>
> Recently this group was at the gamescom and asked 343i about elites!
>
> Here it is the Q&A that i translated in english for you:
>
> Q: One of the many revolutions of Halo 2 , then taken by Halo 3 , was to introduce the Elite player game modes . Will they return in Halo 5 ? Maybe as DLC or future upgrades ?
>
> A: We currently have no plans to introduce the Elite in Halo multiplayer 5 : Guardians . For future Halo we do not know yet , maybe in the future we will see them come back , who knows !
>
> I still hope in a DLC or halo 6
That’s all we needed. Not only did they not have the time or resources to add them in the first place, but they don’t even see them as important enough to be implemented in as DLC or in latter titles. How frustrating.
Alright, so definitely no DLC. Bummer. I guess it’s back to waiting. Again. Still looking forward to some campaign action though. Also Halo Wars 2! Gave the Brutes some spot light in that trailer. They deserve it! I wonder what time period it will be held in? Halo 2 ish? Anyone have an Idea? I hope they increase the scale of the game this time around. I also think they should switch around the style. What I mean is that the covenant stuff should be more powerful instead of UNSC being more powerful. That just didn’t make sense at all. They should have had the UNSC have a higher unit capacity and covenant a smaller capacity, but more destructive. That would be more cannon. It was still a very fun game and I can’t wait to play the next one no matter what they do.
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> This may be a naive question, but is there any reason for not including Elites in MP? I mean they’ve created a multitude of assets for Elites I’d imagine in the game, so it’s not like its a time or recourse issue. How can there be any logic in not including them? I’m not trying to be smart, I legit don’t know so if anyone can enlighten me it’d be great because all the time in the world isn’t enough to skim this massive thread XD
Exactly! Sadly no one knows…
It seems that 343 don’t sympathize with elites in multiplayer 
They are great in big maps and custom games! At least give us elite in custom games 343!
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> > 2533274923873915;10572:
> > This may be a naive question, but is there any reason for not including Elites in MP? I mean they’ve created a multitude of assets for Elites I’d imagine in the game, so it’s not like its a time or recourse issue. How can there be any logic in not including them? I’m not trying to be smart, I legit don’t know so if anyone can enlighten me it’d be great because all the time in the world isn’t enough to skim this massive thread XD
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> Exactly! Sadly no one knows…
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> It seems that 343 don’t sympathize with elites in multiplayer They are great in big maps and custom games! At least give us elite in custom games 343!
I think the main issue is the hitboxes are different for elites. And realistically you wouldn’t be able to have them the same (just think of the relative difference of head positions between elites and humans). H5 is really trying to give everybody an equal start in matchmaking so it would add an element of unfairness to standard games.
As much as id love to see playable elites I think it could only be done in (1) Elite only playlists (2) Elite team vs Spartan team playlists like invasion or (3) custom games
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> > > This may be a naive question, but is there any reason for not including Elites in MP? I mean they’ve created a multitude of assets for Elites I’d imagine in the game, so it’s not like its a time or recourse issue. How can there be any logic in not including them? I’m not trying to be smart, I legit don’t know so if anyone can enlighten me it’d be great because all the time in the world isn’t enough to skim this massive thread XD
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> >
> > Exactly! Sadly no one knows…
> >
> > It seems that 343 don’t sympathize with elites in multiplayer They are great in big maps and custom games! At least give us elite in custom games 343!
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> I think the main issue is the hitboxes are different for elites. And realistically you wouldn’t be able to have them the same (just think of the relative difference of head positions between elites and humans). H5 is really trying to give everybody an equal start in matchmaking so it would add an element of unfairness to standard games.
> As much as id love to see playable elites I think it could only be done in (1) Elite only playlists (2) Elite team vs Spartan team playlists like invasion or (3) custom games
343 can just copy and paste elites from H2A campaign. They have almost the same size of a spartan. Reach was a great game with elites in multi imo. I don’t see any reason behind to include them in H5! In reach the hitboxes were different but in any case was really fun to play spartan vs elites despite the big differences!
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> This may be a naive question, but is there any reason for not including Elites in MP? I mean they’ve created a multitude of assets for Elites I’d imagine in the game, so it’s not like its a time or recourse issue. How can there be any logic in not including them? I’m not trying to be smart, I legit don’t know so if anyone can enlighten me it’d be great because all the time in the world isn’t enough to skim this massive thread XD
Hey, buddy!
What’s funny is that their excuse was just that, time and resources.
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> > > This may be a naive question, but is there any reason for not including Elites in MP? I mean they’ve created a multitude of assets for Elites I’d imagine in the game, so it’s not like its a time or recourse issue. How can there be any logic in not including them? I’m not trying to be smart, I legit don’t know so if anyone can enlighten me it’d be great because all the time in the world isn’t enough to skim this massive thread XD
> >
> >
> > Exactly! Sadly no one knows…
> >
> > It seems that 343 don’t sympathize with elites in multiplayer They are great in big maps and custom games! At least give us elite in custom games 343!
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>
> I think the main issue is the hitboxes are different for elites. And realistically you wouldn’t be able to have them the same (just think of the relative difference of head positions between elites and humans). H5 is really trying to give everybody an equal start in matchmaking so it would add an element of unfairness to standard games.
> As much as id love to see playable elites I think it could only be done in (1) Elite only playlists (2) Elite team vs Spartan team playlists like invasion or (3) custom games
Interestingly enough this “Arena” mode they’re trying recreate is exactly what Bungie had in older Halo titles. All of which excluding the first and a certain spin-off included playable Elites. The lack of playable Elites has nothing to do with hitboxes, balancing, or equality. It has everything to do with 343 (supposedly) lacking the time and resources to include them initially, and not caring enough to implement them later via DLC.
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> > > > This may be a naive question, but is there any reason for not including Elites in MP? I mean they’ve created a multitude of assets for Elites I’d imagine in the game, so it’s not like its a time or recourse issue. How can there be any logic in not including them? I’m not trying to be smart, I legit don’t know so if anyone can enlighten me it’d be great because all the time in the world isn’t enough to skim this massive thread XD
> > >
> > >
> > > Exactly! Sadly no one knows…
> > >
> > > It seems that 343 don’t sympathize with elites in multiplayer They are great in big maps and custom games! At least give us elite in custom games 343!
> >
> >
> > I think the main issue is the hitboxes are different for elites. And realistically you wouldn’t be able to have them the same (just think of the relative difference of head positions between elites and humans). H5 is really trying to give everybody an equal start in matchmaking so it would add an element of unfairness to standard games.
> > As much as id love to see playable elites I think it could only be done in (1) Elite only playlists (2) Elite team vs Spartan team playlists like invasion or (3) custom games
>
>
> Interestingly enough this “Arena” mode they’re trying recreate is exactly what Bungie had in older Halo titles. All of which excluding the first and a certain spin-off included playable Elites. The lack of playable Elites has nothing to do with hitboxes, balancing, or equality. It has everything to do with 343 (supposedly) lacking the time and resources to include them initially, and not caring enough to implement them later via DLC.
Something which further justifies any reason for some of us to skip Halo 5.
Oh come on this is literally the only consistantly asked for thing. And it wouldnt be hard to do! They got the hit boxes they got the models its an issue of copy paste!
In halo ce custom edition on the pc proved this. It would litteraly take 1 person and maybe 2 days total. Just add it as an armor variant and you skip any techincal stuff with making a menu option or anything like that.