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> > > > > > Nope splits the community up to much and creates unnecessary playlists which force the community apart. If they were to be included it should be for customs only and maybe a playlist which is rotational but no more.
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> > > > > I’m totally on board with this. The elite skin in H3 had wonky hitboxes and the odd bodytype wasn’t so balanced.
> > > > > But Reach Elites!!! Not only were they actual Elites, but I really started to care for my dino as much as I did my spartan.
> > > > > Of all the threads here on waypoint begging for this and that to be added post-launch I’m most hopeful for elite slayer and invasion. You’d think that the warzone maps would be appropriate for invasion, so it wouldn’t seem as though it would be that difficult to do. But I don’t want to sound like one of those armchair game developers screaming about how easy 4 player splitscreen would be…
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> > > > Yeah but Invasion was one of the most popular game types in Reach due to the fact the rest of the game kind of sucked. I feel this was to do with the gamemode however and not because it was spartans vs elites.
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> > > You have a 500 page thread of people wanting Elites back but you tell us that it’s just the same people over and over again when that couldn’t be more false. What do you want me to do? Quote every genuine post on the thread for you? Everyone you’re talking to right now has that same thread in front of them and they see months of patience and passion while you’re trying to convince us that it’s… what was that you said? 20 people max? Sorry but I don’t really know what to tell you other than what you’re saying appears to be quite far from the truth.
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> > > You also say that this thread is fanboyism at it’s finest. I ask again what’s the real issue there? There are passionate fans that want Elites back. There’s no argument there for the continued removal of Elites.
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> > Even if there were 2,000 unique users posting in this thread it’s still far too insignificant of a number to base any kind of change on. But, what it means is that there are 2,000 people who want playable elites which means that there’s a lot more that are indifferent, but would have fun playing as elites. Still though, in order for it to be worth 343’s time it would have to be easy for them to implement which is why I think elite slayer and invasion are our best hope (and imo, the best option 
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> If 20% of a forum community wants Elites than one question that should be asked is if 20% of the entire community want Elites back. It’s a terribly flawed system because we’re only testing within the forum community, and that no one knows how much more or less likely an Elite is to post on Waypont than a Spartan player. Using a forum to gather data is full of compromised data.
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> But at the end of the day when Halo 4 came out a bunch of people on places like Waypoint and beyond complained about so many things and look at how much has been changed for Halo 5. The people who came here to complain about that stuff were only a small fraction of the community too yet they got some of the things they wanted because they were looked at as representatives of the rest of the community. The people here been given a flawed system but within the bounds of that flawed system everything that can be done has been done. Surely I don’t have to say that getting every single Elite fan in here is necessary. If the biggest thread on Waypoint isn’t significant enough than every single other thread is therefore deemed even less significant. It’s either this thread matters or every time someone asks for something around here they should be ignored unless they gather even more support than a thread that has been around for this long.
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> I think you’re taking people too seriously here mate. We’re on an internet forum about a video game. All I see is a passionate group of people here that want one of their favorite features back. Simple as that.
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> And I don’t think anyone around here is denying that this is a fan dominated thread. Yes it’s going to be the Elite fanboys/girls that are going to go through the trouble of posting on this thread. I just don’t see how anyone could see that fact as a reason to keep Elites out of the game.
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> “What? There’s a bunch of people that have come together to state their desire to have Elites and have done so in the most organised, passionate and patient manner that this forum has ever seen? Well there’s no way we can have Elites now. People are actually asking for them. We can’t have that. There’s a chance you could make someone happy. The horror!”
“A bunch of people” isn’t going to change anything. And a massive thread doesn’t prove a massive amount of people, just that the people posting are persistent.
Yes, complaints of the past have been posted on the forums and changes have been issued afterwards, but not because of forum posts alone. There is also a lot of in-house testing involved. And just because one issue can be changed doesn’t mean all issues can be changed. 343, like any business, has to weigh effort against profit and adding elites wouldn’t satisfy enough people to make the extra work worth it–no matter how minor you deem that extra work to be. Saying adding playable elites would be an easy thing to do only demonstrates how little 343 cares to do it. Appealing to a broader audience maximizes profits and there simply aren’t enough people wanting to play as elites for 343 to shift personnel/resources to add playable elites.
As for the fanboy comment, I said a few. I even italicized it. Is it possible you haven’t seen the same few posts as me? Completely possible. I won’t post these comments because that would be calling out which isn’t allowed. The point is they are the ones taking this too seriously. Not me.
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This made me rofl. I don’t know what you look like but I pictured a guy staring at himself all day.
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> > > > To be honest other than completely ignoring my section of the fanbase H5 looks fairly solid as a game. Your average MLG 360 noscope player will probably love it.But I’m a bigger fan of Halo’s lore than it’s competitive community, and find elites drastically more interesting than Spartans. So yes, I would enjoy those features. Without them I will probably lose interest in H5 a month after it’s release just like H4.
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> > > Yes, I think most who play an Elite are bigger fans of the lore of halo IMO. I am the same way. That’s not to say that everyone who plays a spartan isn’t of course, but I think there is definitely some correlation between loving the lore and loving Elites. Those who hate Elites with a passion probably care more about competitive multiplayer than they do the lore IMO, which is fine, but multiplayer should be more about having fun and living out your fantasy of being an 8ft alien monster mixed with a little friendly competition. xD The competitive extreme stuff where everything needs to be even should be its own separate playlist. Everyone should not be forced into this highly competitive stuff. There should be a separation of the two. one area for casual and one for competitive.
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> > > I for one would definitely get a kick out of seeing a couple of Elites headbutt at the end of a match, or even do something like that with a spartan. xD I could just see it. Elite and spartan headbutt to cellebrate victory, Spartan staggers back and falls down from the impact. “Not so hard next time buddy, okay?” xD
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> > God I love your post. But Sure we might be the strangest community but some of us have personal attachments to the Sangheili. I originally swore of Halo as being a Call of Duty/Modern Warfare/Battlefield space shooter copy. Then I played as the arbiter, granted I only played a little bit but suddenly I was curious about who the hell I was. I was introduced to the Arbiter… I then suddenly fell hard for the Sangheili. The Arbiter was the reason I gave Halo a try beyond being utterly bored one day. Hey lets totally do the Sangheili Headbutt of victory!
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> > I have a small sliver of hope for an offshoot game for the Sangheili like ODST. Or DLC for Sangheili. Sure it sucks now but just think… we’ve made a community just wanting them back let’s stop being so pessimistic.
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> Hey, Thanks man! 
I have hope as well [headbutts She Sangheili], but I try to keep it on the dl so I’m not too disappointed in the case we do not get anything for our plight. I heard that ODST was originally supposed to be more about Elites, but so many people complained about that, that they changed it. Not sure where to find that fact, it’s just what I’ve heard. My point is that if we -Yoink- loud enough and have enough support we might get what we want. xD I know it sounds selfish, but apparently that’s how this stuff works. I’m not really sure what all the hate for Elites stemmed from, but I’m pretty sure that every new 12 year old player just goes along with that hate and isn’t really sure why. I feel like that’s where the majority lies. I love playing as an Elite and I do so any chance I get, but I do not hate Spartans. They are incredibly badass. Spartan VI’s not so much as the previous, but still pretty cool. In recent times in halo lore it seems just about anyone can be a Spartan and it really loses its “specialness”. They are nothing compared to the II’s. That’s not to say that some are not incredibly talented and deserving of the Spartan insignia. No, but the days of the “real” Spartans are nearly at an end and we will be left with nothing but “cheep” (that armor probably costs a fortune) ripoffs of what was once something great. However, it is probably for the better that children are no longer kidnapped and forced to be augmented and trained to be the perfect solder anymore. xD
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> I think I got a little off topic there, but nonetheless it serves to show that I do not harbor mindless hatred towards being a Spartan in MP that others show towards Elites. Does it show that? I don’t know. Maybe I just got off topic. xD Anyway, Like you I also fell in love with the Elites even just seeing them in Halo CE when I was a kid. I remember wanting to know more about them. I always tend to love the alien races in every genera, bad guys or not I sided with anything not human. The more savage and monster like the better. Alien from the movie Alien(hard to decide between Alien or Predator for me) xD, the Scrin in command and conquer, the Zerg in in StarCraft (also a hard choice between them and Protoss), Tyranids in Warhammer etc. It’s just how I am. I like to be the odd one in the minority. Most people just don’t understand. xD I dare to be different. 
Now you could make the argument that if Halo was all about the Elites and Spartans were the minority, then I would prefer the Spartan. I’m not entirely sure it would work like that for me, since I already love the alien race to begin with. Just throwing that in there so no one else does. xD
Chuckles at the headbutt You know what I’m just tired of complaining about it. I’m tired of how depressing Waypoint can get at times. I’d love a Sangheili spin-off game! But the reality of getting one is slim so we cry for a DLC. However I’d rather play as a Sangheili as it keeps things mixed up and well doesn’t cheapen the Spartans.
I’d make a better post but it’s too hot here.
Playing as Elites is one of the greatest things to happen to halo.
This community’s loud minority has gotton so bad tot he point where it is the voice of the community. I’m actually grateful the Killer Instinct Community is not this bad.
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> Yes, complaints of the past have been posted on the forums and changes have been issued afterwards, but not because of forum posts alone. There is also a lot of in-house testing involved. And just because one issue can be changed doesn’t mean all issues can be changed.
Changes have happened in the past because community members have made their desires known whether it be on Waypoint or somewhere else. This thread is an example of a sub-group in the community coming together to make a request in a patient and organised manner that just happens to have taken place on Waypoint.
When something like this happens it’s an issue that should definitely be considered changing and definitely not ignored. Why? Because the people you’re making you’re game for have done everything in their power to make their desires known.
> 343, like any business, has to weigh effort against profit and adding elites wouldn’t satisfy enough people to make the extra work worth it–no matter how minor you deem that extra work to be. Saying adding playable elites would be an easy thing to do only demonstrates how little 343 cares to do it.
I didn’t deem anything as minor work. I would never assume that any part of working at 343 is easy. That’s why I think it’s perfectly fine for the people to be asking for Elites when there are threads everywhere asking for vehicles, story elements, game mechanics, characters and so much other stuff. They have just as much right to make requests as anyone else.
> Appealing to a broader audience maximizes profits and there simply aren’t enough people wanting to play as elites for 343 to shift personnel/resources to add playable elites.
But when people make dozens of comparatively tiny, disorganized pleas for Halo to go back to more arena focused game play it’s decided that the entire focus of the Beta should be on arena.
> As for the fanboy comment, I said a few. I even italicized it. Is it possible you haven’t seen the same few posts as me? Completely possible. I won’t post these comments because that would be calling out which isn’t allowed. The point is they are the ones taking this too seriously. Not me.
You’re unjustly labeling your fellow community members as extremists. If you think you’re not being insulting tell me why you consider it “calling them out” instead of just providing evidence?
And again, regardless of whether you think of some of the people here in that way it’s still not an argument against bringing Elites back.
I say bring the elites back. Heck, throw in a brute or a promethean while you’re at it.
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> I say bring the elites back. Heck, throw in a brute or a promethean while you’re at it.
If they want to make a separate Halo Battlefront game then fine but for the normal mainstream Halo games please god no.
Honestly i think in halo 5 elites could fit some of the spartan abilities. Thruster pack could be a type of evade (not like reach), sprint both could do automatically, ground pound could be altered in a way it could fit elites and so on. So why take out something that can easily be in the game but fans do love having (most of them at least). I love playing as elites and would love even more to play as them in a more fast pace gaming environment so please put them back in as playable charcters in halo 5!!!
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This on top of it would make it even better XD
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> When something like this happens it’s an issue that should definitely be considered changing and definitely not ignored. Why? Because the people you’re making you’re game for have done everything in their power to make their desires known.
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> > 343, like any business, has to weigh effort against profit and adding elites wouldn’t satisfy enough people to make the extra work worth it–no matter how minor you deem that extra work to be. Saying adding playable elites would be an easy thing to do only demonstrates how little 343 cares to do it.
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> I didn’t deem anything as minor work. I would never assume that any part of working at 343 is easy. That’s why I think it’s perfectly fine for the people to be asking for Elites when there are threads everywhere asking for vehicles, story elements, game mechanics, characters and so much other stuff. They have just as much right to make requests as anyone else.
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> > As for the fanboy comment, I said a few. I even italicized it. Is it possible you haven’t seen the same few posts as me? Completely possible. I won’t post these comments because that would be calling out which isn’t allowed. The point is they are the ones taking this too seriously. Not me.
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> You’re unjustly labeling your fellow community members as extremists. If you think you’re not being insulting tell me why you consider it “calling them out” instead of just providing evidence?
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> And again, regardless of whether you think of some of the people here in that way it’s still not an argument against bringing Elites back.
343 has not ignored this thread. They’ve seen it and considered it. The answer is no to playable elites, unfortunately.
The point I’m making about this thread also applies to the “threads everywhere asking for vehicles, story elements, game mechanics, characters and so much other stuff.” I never implied that those requests have anymore merit than playable elites. I absolutely think this thread should exist, and so, I contributed to it by offering my opinion. I know my opinion may seem unpopular, but no playable elites is almost a certainty and there is a lot of false hope ITT. It sucks to see so many people get there hopes up like this.
And Halo 5’s focus on arena gameplay is a direct result of Halo 4’s abysmal online population. When you consider how uniquely noncompetitive Halo 4’s mp was it’s a no-brainer that for the next one to do better arena needs to be a focus. Of course such a major and obvious problem will be discussed on the message boards. This issue is in no way comparable to an absent mp skin or the removal of two superfluous gametypes from Reach.
If you think I’m being unjust by labeling someone an extremist without even knowing what they said for me to label them as such, then it would appear to me that you just have an axe to grind because of my difference of opinion. So be it. That being said let me reiterate once more: I said a few people were taking it too far and I said it in defense of someone else who brought it up (perhaps a bit more pointedly than I would). And I didn’t say it so much to defend as much as I did to agree. Most of the people ITT are even-keeled articulate people contributing to the conversation in a meaningful way. But as I said, a few seem as though they want species re-assignment surgery.
My personal thoughts on playable elites is that the best we can hope for is a post-launch update. Warzone maps would be great for invasion and from there it shouldn’t be too difficult to also give us elite slayer, but I’m no arm-chair game developer. There could be a myriad of reasons why this can’t happen.
By expecting the worse I may be pleasantly surprised. But a least I for sure won’t be disappointed. This is my perspective and It’s what I try to share ITT.
A post launch update is all we can hope for.
The lack of split-screen is a big issue to.
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> > Changes have happened in the past because community members have made their desires known whether it be on Waypoint or somewhere else. This thread is an example of a sub-group in the community coming together to make a request in a patient and organised manner that just happens to have taken place on Waypoint.
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> > > As for the fanboy comment, I said a few. I even italicized it. Is it possible you haven’t seen the same few posts as me? Completely possible. I won’t post these comments because that would be calling out which isn’t allowed. The point is they are the ones taking this too seriously. Not me.
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> > And again, regardless of whether you think of some of the people here in that way it’s still not an argument against bringing Elites back.
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> 343 has not ignored this thread. They’ve seen it and considered it. The answer is no to playable elites, unfortunately.
> The point I’m making about this thread also applies to the “threads everywhere asking for vehicles, story elements, game mechanics, characters and so much other stuff.” I never implied that those requests have anymore merit than playable elites. I absolutely think this thread should exist, and so, I contributed to it by offering my opinion. I know my opinion may seem unpopular, but no playable elites is almost a certainty and there is a lot of false hope ITT. It sucks to see so many people get there hopes up like this.
> And Halo 5’s focus on arena gameplay is a direct result of Halo 4’s abysmal online population. When you consider how uniquely noncompetitive Halo 4’s mp was it’s a no-brainer that for the next one to do better arena needs to be a focus. Of course such a major and obvious problem will be discussed on the message boards. This issue is in no way comparable to an absent mp skin or the removal of two superfluous gametypes from Reach.
> If you think I’m being unjust by labeling someone an extremist without even knowing what they said for me to label them as such, then it would appear to me that you just have an axe to grind because of my difference of opinion. So be it. That being said let me reiterate once more: I said a few people were taking it too far and I said it in defense of someone else who brought it up (perhaps a bit more pointedly than I would). And I didn’t say it so much to defend as much as I did to agree. Most of the people ITT are even-keeled articulate people contributing to the conversation in a meaningful way. But as I said, a few seem as though they want species re-assignment surgery.
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> By expecting the worse I may be pleasantly surprised. But a least I for sure won’t be disappointed. This is my perspective and It’s what I try to share ITT.
This. Absolutely this.
Halo is a fantastic COMPETITIVE multiplayer experience. I don’t think I need to remind people of Halo 3 Swat, where EVERYONE had an elite and headshots were unpunished. Sure, after awhile you learned. But if the main focus of this game is a purely competitive Arena experience. There are legitimate problems adding a separate race.
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This is also true. If I want to play Halo Arena, I don’t want to deal with a bunch of random races. A ‘Battlefront’ style game might be a good move for the Halo Franchise, but it certainly wouldn’t do as well as your base Halo - Spartan games.
> Halo is a fantastic COMPETITIVE multiplayer experience. I don’t think I need to remind people of Halo 3 Swat, where EVERYONE had an elite and headshots were unpunished. Sure, after awhile you learned. But if the main focus of this game is a purely competitive Arena experience. There are legitimate problems adding a separate race.
there was a video that tried to prove that elites could still be shot in the back of the head. Halo 3 was also a time were it was okay to bust the chops of a player because they were not good at the games.
Without that variety I see no reason to play Halo. but thanks to this recent news regarding playable Elites, I’m at least glade that balance has nothing to do with their exclusion.
However, not all of us are in for the competitive fun, that’s why some prefer to play games with friends in custom games and forged maps.
I tried to be like these kind of players once, but after loosing and getting killed a lot (regardless of race)I realized that what good is having fun when you try so hard to get good at it in the first place? if you enjoy the game then play it. Plus that, some people who are good at the game tend to flip the table when they loose because they got so good at the game, that they take it to seriously.
at some point the community even those who still hold on to the swat argument) need to understand that we don’t need to think or play the same way.
Besides some could also defend the lack of split-screen as well.
with both of these gone I see no point in playing Halo 5 as a whole.
I don’t expect anyone to understand these reasons anyway.
it would be awsome if 343 made some dlc that gave us elites and a short campaign made using assets and the coding of h5 kinda like how h3 odst used h3 as its base.
(hint hint wink wink to you 343)
(you say you read these forums wonder how many times youve seen this thread. daily for basically 3 years)
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> (hint hint wink wink to you 343)
> (you say you read these forums wonder how many times youve seen this thread. daily for basically 3 years)
I wonder to.I alos wondered if Bungie could make Elites playable and still have time for all the stuff 343 has put into Halo 5.
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Some people do indeed enjoy looking at themselves in the mirror lol. My younger brother is a body builder and he loves to look at himself and pose in the mirror. I think he would marry his reflection if he could. xD
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> > > > > To be honest other than completely ignoring my section of the fanbase H5 looks fairly solid as a game. Your average MLG 360 noscope player will probably love it.But I’m a bigger fan of Halo’s lore than it’s competitive community, and find elites drastically more interesting than Spartans. So yes, I would enjoy those features. Without them I will probably lose interest in H5 a month after it’s release just like H4.
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> > > > I for one would definitely get a kick out of seeing a couple of Elites headbutt at the end of a match, or even do something like that with a spartan. xD I could just see it. Elite and spartan headbutt to cellebrate victory, Spartan staggers back and falls down from the impact. “Not so hard next time buddy, okay?” xD
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> > > Chuckles at the headbutt You know what I’m just tired of complaining about it. I’m tired of how depressing Waypoint can get at times. I’d love a Sangheili spin-off game! But the reality of getting one is slim so we cry for a DLC. However I’d rather play as a Sangheili as it keeps things mixed up and well doesn’t cheapen the Spartans. I’d make a better post but it’s too hot here.
Understandable. xD
I’ve watched the comments on this post grow and grow
Elites deserve to be in the game or at least an upcoming game.
It doesn’t have to have a playlist, custom games will do.
It would add more diversity and fun to each game you play
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> The point I’m making about this thread also applies to the “threads everywhere asking for vehicles, story elements, game mechanics, characters and so much other stuff.” I never implied that those requests have anymore merit than playable elites. I absolutely think this thread should exist, and so, I contributed to it by offering my opinion. I know my opinion may seem unpopular, but no playable elites is almost a certainty and there is a lot of false hope ITT. It sucks to see so many people get there hopes up like this.
The intention of this thread is to make the statement that there are community members that want Elites back and that 343 should do it. You said earlier that “A bunch of people isn’t going to change anything” yet you say here that the thread should still exist and you still care to add your voice. If you think the thread should still be listened to than what are you trying to say?
And when the people here are seeing that other requests are being accepted from story elements to game play mechanics they’re going to get their hopes up, especially since they’ve done so well to make their request known. It’s not false hope, it’s justified hope that hasn’t been met. The attention that Elites have been getting in everything except Halo 5 doesn’t help either.
> And Halo 5’s focus on arena gameplay is a direct result of Halo 4’s abysmal online population. When you consider how uniquely noncompetitive Halo 4’s mp was it’s a no-brainer that for the next one to do better arena needs to be a focus. Of course such a major and obvious problem will be discussed on the message boards. This issue is in no way comparable to an absent mp skin or the removal of two superfluous gametypes from Reach.
Then let’s pull an example of something that’s more in the realm of cosmetics. During the H5 Beta complaints were made about the Rocket launcher design. Now there’s gonna be a classic RL in the game as a result of the demand. You could also look at the ODST and Mk V armor sets that were made available in Halo 4’s champion bundle. The community made their desires known and 343 took action. That’s what’s trying to be achieved here.
> If you think I’m being unjust by labeling someone an extremist without even knowing what they said for me to label them as such, then it would appear to me that you just have an axe to grind because of my difference of opinion. So be it. That being said let me reiterate once more: I said a few people were taking it too far and I said it in defense of someone else who brought it up (perhaps a bit more pointedly than I would). And I didn’t say it so much to defend as much as I did to agree. Most of the people ITT are even-keeled articulate people contributing to the conversation in a meaningful way. But as I said, a few seem as though they want species re-assignment surgery.
If I may, can I ask if you were just defending Saijyan because you thought his statement was correct? Do you agree with the overall argument or just the supporting evidence? Sorry if I’m making baseless assumptions here but it seems to me that you’re more concerned with proving that the statement is true, not the argument it fails to support.
I know I sound like a broken record but one way or the other this still doesn’t change whether or not Elites should be in the game. The people here can be the weirdest people on the internet and that still shouldn’t affect anything. “Let’s keep Elites out because some of them are weirdos” is where this started and as much as I want to argue that you shouldn’t talking about people like that I’m questioning why you feel like this is an argument that has to be made at all in he first place.
And one person or a hundred it doesn’t matter if it’s only a few people you’re talking about. I’m not saying that you’re generalizing, I’m saying that labeling people as extremists to support a flawed argument that I’m not even 100% sure you believe in really isn’t something that’s all that appropriate or even productive.
> My personal thoughts on playable elites is that the best we can hope for is a post-launch update. Warzone maps would be great for invasion and from there it shouldn’t be too difficult to also give us elite slayer, but I’m no arm-chair game developer. There could be a myriad of reasons why this can’t happen. By expecting the worse I may be pleasantly surprised. But a least I for sure won’t be disappointed. This is my perspective and It’s what I try to share ITT.
You’ve lost me mate. I’m have to admit that I’m confused in a lot of areas right now. I’m certain that I’ve lost your position in this and I apologize. You’ve provided nothing but arguments against the inclusion of Elites or at least that’s what I’ve come to understand but now I have no idea of this perspective of yours is at this stage. Elites. Yes or no? Can I get a brief summary of where you stand so I can figure where I should be standing right now? Please and thank you.
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> I’ve watched the comments on this post grow and grow
> Elites deserve to be in the game or at least an upcoming game.
> It doesn’t have to have a playlist, custom games will do.
> It would add more diversity and fun to each game you play
Something I don’t think the ones who fear balance issues will understand.
A playlist is also fine to. I wont go on matchmaking unless someone invites me to it if this happens.