Sangheili (Elites) In New Trilogy Matchmaking (Part 1)

> > Pardon my language, but how the Yoink! is this thread not pinned yet? This may be a non verbal “Screw you” in a matter of speaking, from 343…
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> I don’t think so. I think it’s more just them stopping speculation going off the charts. As soon as they pin it, people are going to take it as confirmation that Elite’s are coming back. Besides, with as much support as this thread has, it’s not dying anytime soon. :wink:

Wow, i never thought about it like that… But that makes sense, i certainly wouldnt want people going off the charts quite yet… In or not in, there would be so many threads we wouldnt be able to see antyhing but elites XD… Yeah no, i expect this thread to become the largest on the site quite soon.

I love elites and will be extremely disapointed if they don’t make an appearance in halo 4 multiplayer but i would also (and i know im gonna get alot of hate for this) but i would like to see brutes implemented in some way as well. I just loved them so much in the previous halos besides the whole armor falling off -Yoink- they just looked so badass and ive always wanted to play as one. And before you tell me i know im a very small minority
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Its been a while since I posted, but I have not forgetten about you brothers!

I have asked my brother to make an arum to represent our ever present struggle and our everlasting efforts!

When it is completed we will send it to 343 (assuming they haven’t announced them by then) with a letter written on behalf of the community.

don’t use elites, but really give these guys the elite during regular games, hitboxes are the same despite those complainers out there I’m not one of them. and if it has custom armor for spartans again, give the elites customization on the same level, i need something different to see besides spartans with big shoulders n eva helms

> Its been a while since I posted, but I have not forgetten about you brothers!
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> I have asked my brother to make an arum to represent our ever present struggle and our everlasting efforts!
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> When it is completed we will send it to 343 (assuming they haven’t announced them by then) with a letter written on behalf of the community.

Being the aspiring writer that i am, would you need me to write the letter?

> don’t use elites, but really give these guys the elite during regular games, hitboxes are the same despite those complainers out there I’m not one of them. and if it has custom armor for spartans again, give the elites customization on the same level, i need something different to see besides spartans with big shoulders n eva helms

Too true, we need variety.

> Without jumping to conclusions, I understand that Sangheili have neither been confirmed or denied for the Multiplayer of Halo 4, but I would like to present my explanation for why it is imperative Elites make a return, much more dignified than the limitations of Reach.
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> It is no doubt the Elite community within Halo is small, but having been involved with it for 6 and half years now, I am astounded at it’s growth. As more Halo media like The Return, Halo: Cole Protocol, and Halo: Glasslands makes it’s way to the gamer, the more compelled the gamer is to prefer playing as an Elite over a Spartan. Especially when the media makes reference to things found on a game level, such as Thel 'Vadam or the Revenant. Although that sounds like a very basic and broad way to explain this, after speaking with the populous of newly converted “Elite players”, this is the general reason I get for this exponential growth. To make this point, I ask you to look around, and in nearly every thread you will see at least one or two users with Elite or Covenant avatars.
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> 343i, I would like you to recognize that we are here collectively, and we deserve the respect and catered opinions just as much as the Spartan fanbase. Although extreme, I know players who actually will not buy Halo 4 if they are not available in Matchmaking, and I cannot say I blame them. What would Halo be without Covenant Weapons/Vehicles as well? Energy Swords, Needlers, and Wraiths are all iconic symbols of what makes Halo, Halo.
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> The limitations of playing as an Elite in Halo Reach are indeed disheartening. Going back to the Halo 3 method of playing as an elite during regular Matchmaking can be the solution. Not only does that add to the customization, but it can also be explained canonically. I understand that 343i is in the process of delivering a canonical explanation for the Red and Blue Spartans fighting each other. The relationship between Humans and Sangheili can be used to add Elites into this mix. Since the UNSC and the Sangheili are allied, having them use human weapons is anything but non-canon. Or if you would like to take the reverse side of the coin, ONI is supplying the Servants of Abiding Truth with weaponry, which is human as well. This can easily be weaved into the plot without creating a mess.
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> I understand the game is very far into the development stage, I do not know for sure, but judging by the newest ViDoc, I believe it isn’t too late to give the Elite fanbase a voice. We’re here, we shouldn’t be neglected, and if we are, I can assure you that 343i will lose a great deal of supporters.
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> > Please Sign (Thank This Post) If You Agree.

Don’t jump the gun yet. Think about it. The covenant have been on your side since the latter of Halo 2. Maybe in the story you’ll finally be able to reach contact with the humans and then be able to contact the Elite species for the newly needed help required to defeat this “new threat”. And with the aid of the covenant comes their weaponry.

TL;DR: In the story the Sanghelli and Humans might team up from the start this time.

> > Its been a while since I posted, but I have not forgetten about you brothers!
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> > I have asked my brother to make an arum to represent our ever present struggle and our everlasting efforts!
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> > When it is completed we will send it to 343 (assuming they haven’t announced them by then) with a letter written on behalf of the community.
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> Being the aspiring writer that i am, would you need me to write the letter?

I would be honored if you would write it!

Though right now it might take some time for him to make the Arum.

Brothers!
We must make sure this topic gets pinned, one way or another!

i agree 100%

As for Elites in the campaign I hope they make a small cameo but nothing more. No covenant weapons in the campaign, give us forerunner weapons instead.

No covenant weapons or vehicles in the MM, as for the elites in MM? They say that MP is going to have some story elements and if the elites fit in to that sure why not, I have nothing against covenant weapons or elites, I just want something fresh and new. So don’t put elites in just because they have been in the other games. Nostalgia is awesome but it can keep a game from moving forward.

If you have read the books you will know that humans have had their hands on some serious foreunner tech for like 4 years when Halo 4 starts. So the weapons and vehicles I think we will see are a combination of human/furerunner.

So to sum up, forerunner weapon and vehicles instead of covenant and no elites, new trilogi, lets move on from the covenant and elites.

> So to sum up, forerunner weapon and vehicles instead of covenant and no elites, new trilogi, lets move on from the covenant and elites.

And completely destroy a large portion of the halo community… no way…

We need them to return in MM at the bare minimum… We need covenant weapons and vehicles for machinima… even if they are prohibited in MM.

And wouldnt it be more awesome to have more than just spartans on either side in MM?

> > So to sum up, forerunner weapon and vehicles instead of covenant and no elites, new trilogi, lets move on from the covenant and elites.
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> And completely destroy a large portion of the halo community… no way…
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> We need them to return in MM at the bare minimum… We need covenant weapons and vehicles for machinima… even if they are prohibited in MM.
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> And wouldnt it be more awesome to have more than just spartans on either side in MM?

I totally agree with you. Expanding the Universe does not mean that we should throw away the 90% of it. Expand a universe means move forward and add things not shrink it, or else Halo’s first trilogy and the Reclaimer trilogy would be irrelevant to each other.

> > > Pardon my language, but how the Yoink! is this thread not pinned yet? This may be a non verbal “Screw you” in a matter of speaking, from 343…
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> > I don’t think so. I think it’s more just them stopping speculation going off the charts. As soon as they pin it, people are going to take it as confirmation that Elite’s are coming back. Besides, with as much support as this thread has, it’s not dying anytime soon. :wink:
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> Wow, i never thought about it like that… But that makes sense, i certainly wouldnt want people going off the charts quite yet… In or not in, there would be so many threads we wouldnt be able to see antyhing but elites XD… Yeah no, i expect this thread to become the largest on the site quite soon.

Everybody in this thread has different ideas about how the Sangheili should return. Imaging 343i pinning it; it would be a total mess.Probably it will be pinned when the Sangheili are confirmed to be in Halo 4.

> I dont think that elites are coming back for MP. Look at the First look. They created a fiction, they created Spartan4s for MP. Wouldnt make sense to throw dinos in.

In Halo Reach they created the Sspartan 3s and the Sangheili are in it. Plus 343i said that they do want to satisfy all the fans. If somebody hates the Sangheili then he can simply not plaay as them. It is really easy.

As long as they fix it so that an Elite WILL die when shot in the back of the head (especially when blood pours out) unlike with H3, then YES! =D

Otherwise, just leave it out.

> > > Its been a while since I posted, but I have not forgetten about you brothers!
> > >
> > > I have asked my brother to make an arum to represent our ever present struggle and our everlasting efforts!
> > >
> > > When it is completed we will send it to 343 (assuming they haven’t announced them by then) with a letter written on behalf of the community.
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> > Being the aspiring writer that i am, would you need me to write the letter?
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> I would be honored if you would write it!
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> Though right now it might take some time for him to make the Arum.

Well, hopefully the arum gets finished quickly, before its too late. And write the letter i shall.

I doubt 343 would want to dissapoint a large (Probably fairly significant) fan base such as the elite fans. So i rather hope that they make the right decision.

I for one would love to see the elites with a great all around starting weapon such as a plasma rifle as strong as the ones in halo CE

Does anyone know why the general has a stubby horn thing on his helmet?

> Does anyone know why the general has a stubby horn thing on his helmet?

Its his antenna for his noob radar, thats why he can spot anyone from 500 miles away and hear the shot of a silenced pistol 1000 miles away