Sangheili (Elites) In New Trilogy Matchmaking (Part 1)

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> > So let me read that again, No split screen co-op, no firefight, god help 343i if they messed with Forge.
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> There is Forge, what you can’t do is Forge the War Zone maps… Basically will be the same lame Forge from H4.
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> Hell 343, why don’t you just let us upload mods like Fallout 4? that would solve all the problems that you can’t/ you don’t care to solve.

It’s really funny how everyone complains about how “Halo is becoming COD, Titanfall, etc.” when there also many people in the same community who say that Halo “should become more like [fill in the blank with any FPS].”

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> > There’s more than 900 people that wanted elites back. There’s lots of people that don’t use halo waypoint that wanted them back. But 343 doesn’t care what we want. They removed full armor customization, they didn’t bring back firefight, they removed split screen and local. Somebody told me they removed those features to maintain 60fps. Well consoled xbone runs Gta 5 at 30fps and it’s still very popular. 343 you had no reason to remove elites. This whole “canon” thing scrapped my favorite feature. And to all you who don’t understand, think of it lke this, 343 makes a new halo game where you can only play as elites and they removed Spartans. I doubt you’d be happy then. Multiplayer isn’t a place for story 343, you killed halo for me. Thank you.
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> This has not been proved either way I think you and everyone else at the moment is basing this of an old tweet and the beta. No one know the level of customisation for the final game. Also you have to look at this way say 10,000,000 people buy Halo 5 and 5000 people care about playing as Elites, that is less than 1% of the population in terms of statistics. So while some people may love it and are obsessed with them as a must, the majority of people do not care. Sorry but probably due to all the stats that 343 have on people who play as them in matchmaking you are a tiny minority and one of the last things they would look at implementing, on their list when designing the game.

^This.
If there is only 1000 people here on waypoint asking for elites, it’s enough to keep a thread going for 3 years, but no where near enough for 343 to feel it’s worth spending time/resources on.
But, if Halo 6 is just going to build on top of what Halo 5 has already achieved, then it might be much more feasible to bring back elite slayer and invasion, or even a completely new gametype featuring playable elites.
So I say keep fighting you sons of Sanghelios!

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> > > There’s more than 900 people that wanted elites back. There’s lots of people that don’t use halo waypoint that wanted them back. But 343 doesn’t care what we want. They removed full armor customization, they didn’t bring back firefight, they removed split screen and local. Somebody told me they removed those features to maintain 60fps. Well consoled xbone runs Gta 5 at 30fps and it’s still very popular. 343 you had no reason to remove elites. This whole “canon” thing scrapped my favorite feature. And to all you who don’t understand, think of it lke this, 343 makes a new halo game where you can only play as elites and they removed Spartans. I doubt you’d be happy then. Multiplayer isn’t a place for story 343, you killed halo for me. Thank you.
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> > This has not been proved either way I think you and everyone else at the moment is basing this of an old tweet and the beta. No one know the level of customisation for the final game. Also you have to look at this way say 10,000,000 people buy Halo 5 and 5000 people care about playing as Elites, that is less than 1% of the population in terms of statistics. So while some people may love it and are obsessed with them as a must, the majority of people do not care. Sorry but probably due to all the stats that 343 have on people who play as them in matchmaking you are a tiny minority and one of the last things they would look at implementing, on their list when designing the game.
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> I don’t think anyone actually knows the real number on either side, its been a big enough issue to remain across the net, and like Wrath did point out, there are more out there who side with us that don’t use waypoint at all. I think the numbers are far more different than what you spout out, but then again who am I to say that? WE both don’t know.
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> However, minority or not, there is still that request lingering there like an elephant the room. (kind of miss Sandtrap now, and those elephants)
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> One thing is for sure, Halo 5 will be under tighter scrutiny this round, especially after the MCC.

Yes I understand and if you want the feature to return by all means use forums like waypoint to make your voice heard and 343 may listen in the future that is kind of part of the purpose of forums in the first place feedback etc. The numbers I used were made up just as an example however just to make a point as we don’t have the real statistic available. Even if you use the numbers I did as an estimate lets just say Halo 5 does indeed sell 10 million copies for even 1% of people to want playable Elites you need 500,000 people. While that is quite a large number of people in terms of an actual number when you look at it statistically it is still pretty insignificant.

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> > > > There’s more than 900 people that wanted elites back. There’s lots of people that don’t use halo waypoint that wanted them back. But 343 doesn’t care what we want. They removed full armor customization, they didn’t bring back firefight, they removed split screen and local. Somebody told me they removed those features to maintain 60fps. Well consoled xbone runs Gta 5 at 30fps and it’s still very popular. 343 you had no reason to remove elites. This whole “canon” thing scrapped my favorite feature. And to all you who don’t understand, think of it lke this, 343 makes a new halo game where you can only play as elites and they removed Spartans. I doubt you’d be happy then. Multiplayer isn’t a place for story 343, you killed halo for me. Thank you.
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> > > This has not been proved either way I think you and everyone else at the moment is basing this of an old tweet and the beta. No one know the level of customisation for the final game. Also you have to look at this way say 10,000,000 people buy Halo 5 and 5000 people care about playing as Elites, that is less than 1% of the population in terms of statistics. So while some people may love it and are obsessed with them as a must, the majority of people do not care. Sorry but probably due to all the stats that 343 have on people who play as them in matchmaking you are a tiny minority and one of the last things they would look at implementing, on their list when designing the game.
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> > I don’t think anyone actually knows the real number on either side, its been a big enough issue to remain across the net, and like Wrath did point out, there are more out there who side with us that don’t use waypoint at all. I think the numbers are far more different than what you spout out, but then again who am I to say that? WE both don’t know.
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> > However, minority or not, there is still that request lingering there like an elephant the room. (kind of miss Sandtrap now, and those elephants)
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> > One thing is for sure, Halo 5 will be under tighter scrutiny this round, especially after the MCC.
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> Yes I understand and if you want the feature to return by all means use forums like waypoint to make your voice heard and 343 may listen in the future that is kind of part of the purpose of forums in the first place feedback etc. The numbers I used were made up just as an example however just to make a point as we don’t have the real statistic available. Even if you use the numbers I did as an estimate lets just say Halo 5 does indeed sell 10 million copies for even 1% of people to want playable Elites you need 500,000 people. While that is quite a large number of people in terms of an actual number when you look at it statistically it is still pretty insignificant.

There’s honestly not much of a reason to defend 343. Literally all it is is adding a new player model with different animations and HUD. It’s not that hard when you have such a huge budget like what they have. There’s no reason to defend them. They could’ve made elites playable just as easy as it was for Spartans to be playable. But they didn’t. Why? Because they don’t care about this issue that’s been existing since halo 4. They claim they listen to fans, but they haven’t done anything for us. Sure they removed load outs, but they also added ADS. And don’t tell me “oh it’s not real aiming down sights” actually it is because there’s a video showing when you aim down sights it reduces spread. And the whole elite thing not being canon, well neither is Spartans aiming down sights. Oh wait, I forgot elites are canon considering they fought alongside Spartans in training. Silly 343. I guess they just don’t care about a thread that’s been around for years.

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> > > So let me read that again, No split screen co-op, no firefight, god help 343i if they messed with Forge.
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> >
> > There is Forge, what you can’t do is Forge the War Zone maps… Basically will be the same lame Forge from H4.
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> > Hell 343, why don’t you just let us upload mods like Fallout 4? that would solve all the problems that you can’t/ you don’t care to solve.
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> It’s really funny how everyone complains about how “Halo is becoming COD, Titanfall, etc.” when there also many people in the same community who say that Halo “should become more like [fill in the blank with any FPS].”

Yeah, good stolen features… not arguably pointless ones. What sane person doesn’t want a few Fallout features in Halo?

Exo suit didn’t even make the cut for Black Ops 3, for one. Half that stuff is gone…

I think that’s what the glory of Halo was, it was its own unique brand, but seriously…really seriously people wanting Halo to become more like CoD or BF4? …



That’s really freaking depressing…

Alright people let’s move away from apathy

Still not everyone wants to play as a Spartan some just prefer something that’s more different.

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> > > > So let me read that again, No split screen co-op, no firefight, god help 343i if they messed with Forge.
> > >
> > >
> > > There is Forge, what you can’t do is Forge the War Zone maps… Basically will be the same lame Forge from H4.
> > >
> > > Hell 343, why don’t you just let us upload mods like Fallout 4? that would solve all the problems that you can’t/ you don’t care to solve.
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> > It’s really funny how everyone complains about how “Halo is becoming COD, Titanfall, etc.” when there also many people in the same community who say that Halo “should become more like [fill in the blank with any FPS].”
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> Yeah, good stolen features… not arguably pointless ones. What sane person doesn’t want a few Fallout features in Halo?
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> Exo suit didn’t even make the cut for Black Ops 3, for one. Half that stuff is gone…

No, it’s all there in black ops 3.

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> > > > > So let me read that again, No split screen co-op, no firefight, god help 343i if they messed with Forge.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There is Forge, what you can’t do is Forge the War Zone maps… Basically will be the same lame Forge from H4.
> > > >
> > > > Hell 343, why don’t you just let us upload mods like Fallout 4? that would solve all the problems that you can’t/ you don’t care to solve.
> > >
> > >
> > > It’s really funny how everyone complains about how “Halo is becoming COD, Titanfall, etc.” when there also many people in the same community who say that Halo “should become more like [fill in the blank with any FPS].”
> >
> >
> > Yeah, good stolen features… not arguably pointless ones. What sane person doesn’t want a few Fallout features in Halo?
> >
> > Exo suit didn’t even make the cut for Black Ops 3, for one. Half that stuff is gone…
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> No, it’s all there in black ops 3.

Except they’re not called exo suits. Treyark completely reworked the movement system.

People despised the double jump.

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> > > > > > So let me read that again, No split screen co-op, no firefight, god help 343i if they messed with Forge.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > There is Forge, what you can’t do is Forge the War Zone maps… Basically will be the same lame Forge from H4.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hell 343, why don’t you just let us upload mods like Fallout 4? that would solve all the problems that you can’t/ you don’t care to solve.
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> > > > It’s really funny how everyone complains about how “Halo is becoming COD, Titanfall, etc.” when there also many people in the same community who say that Halo “should become more like [fill in the blank with any FPS].”
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> > > Yeah, good stolen features… not arguably pointless ones. What sane person doesn’t want a few Fallout features in Halo?
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> > > Exo suit didn’t even make the cut for Black Ops 3, for one. Half that stuff is gone…
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> > No, it’s all there in black ops 3.
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> Except they’re not called exo suits. Treyark completely reworked the movement system.
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> People despised the double jump.

Yeah… CoD and BS. Enough. Don’t need this thread getting shut down for going off topic.

Well, guys…
I guess just keep fighting the Sangheili fight.
They have to listen to us eventually, right?
…Right?
sigh

… Here’s to another 3 years… shrug

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> Well, guys…
> I guess just keep fighting the Sangheili fight.
> They have to listen to us eventually, right?
> …Right?
> sigh
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> … Here’s to another 3 years… shrug

Looks that way. Elites have been confirmed to not be a playable race in Halo 5.

Looks like I’ll have to wait another 3 to 5 years before I completely give up on this godforsaken franchise. Sigh.

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> > Well, guys…
> > I guess just keep fighting the Sangheili fight.
> > They have to listen to us eventually, right?
> > …Right?
> > sigh
> >
> > … Here’s to another 3 years… shrug
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> Looks that way. Elites have been confirmed to not be a playable race in Halo 5.
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> Looks like I’ll have to wait another 3 to 5 years before I completely give up on this godforsaken franchise. Sigh.

Sangheili are playable in Russia. #HaloOnline.

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> > > Well, guys…
> > > I guess just keep fighting the Sangheili fight.
> > > They have to listen to us eventually, right?
> > > …Right?
> > > sigh
> > >
> > > … Here’s to another 3 years… shrug
> >
> >
> > Looks that way. Elites have been confirmed to not be a playable race in Halo 5.
> >
> > Looks like I’ll have to wait another 3 to 5 years before I completely give up on this godforsaken franchise. Sigh.
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> Sangheili are playable in Russia. #HaloOnline.

I’ve heard about that. I’m hoping this is true.

Thankfully thus far the only thing that’s confirmed to be “Russia exclusive” is the beta. Here’s hoping the full release will go global.

Hey 343, bring back elites.

> Being able to play as an Elite is something that’s special to many of us here. To you, they are reskinned Spartans. To us, they are an incredible alien race that can only be seen in Halo, with a rich amount of culture and lore behind them. The Elites have sentimental value to us, much like how many of us cherish the games we’ve played as kids. Like the Legend of Zelda, Star Fox, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro the Dragon, we value Elites the same way we value games like these, and to make them playable again would not only satisfy our nostalgia but it would be trivial for 343 to do.

Yes! Spyro! Halo 6 featuring Spyro the Dragon! Love it! xD But seriously, I had high hopes that we would have elites back as playable in some form. At this point saying multiplayer is cannon works in our favor since elites are working with humans. Perfect opportunity to add them in. I don’t know if that answer about them not having a big enough budget is satisfactory. It does not seem likely. I don’t know, I guess it’s all about the statistics blah, blah, blah. It is upsetting since i’m the kind of person who plays as an elite any chance I get, but even so, the game looks damn fun. I hope we at least get to see Arbiters elites shine in the spotlight for a little bit. It would be nice if they had at least one really cool cut-scene where they are kicking -Yoink-. A man can dream though.

If they do have some sort of DLC which I highly doubt, I would prefer that elites be far different from the spartans like they did in Reach, only even more dramatic. Larger size, stronger shields higher jump height plus movement speed to compensate for their larger size. Perhaps even a stronger beat down? Fear the elite in close quarters! Then they could have their evade, sprint and clamber for quick getaways on the ground, but sacrifice the thruster pack. That should be unique to the spartans so they can have their ground pound and what not. This could all be done in a unique non competitive playlist. Warzone was actually the perfect opportunity for them to be implemented but I guess not. Just maybe Halo 6 will feature this sort of thing, but the way they are doing things with everything being based around highly competitive gameplay, it doesn’t look like a promising future for our favorite alien race. We shall see what the future holds.

I’m not sure if they will be added as DLC but they are special to us. Its true that some will never see it this way. But if they can add them as DLC, Halo 5 might have a chance.

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> I’m not sure if they will be added as DLC but they are special to us. Its true that some will never see it this way. But if they can add them as DLC, Halo 5 might have a chance.

Though I’m not sure if 343 even knows there are people who would like Elites as DLC. Has there been anyone that asked them about it?

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> > > > Well, guys…
> > > > I guess just keep fighting the Sangheili fight.
> > > > They have to listen to us eventually, right?
> > > > …Right?
> > > > sigh
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> > > > … Here’s to another 3 years… shrug
> > >
> > >
> > > Looks that way. Elites have been confirmed to not be a playable race in Halo 5.
> > >
> > > Looks like I’ll have to wait another 3 to 5 years before I completely give up on this godforsaken franchise. Sigh.
> >
> >
> > Sangheili are playable in Russia. #HaloOnline.
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> I’ve heard about that. I’m hoping this is true.
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> Thankfully thus far the only thing that’s confirmed to be “Russia exclusive” is the beta. Here’s hoping the full release will go global.

It all sounds completely ideal too. Some images that I’m not really allowed to talk about in detail around here suggests that they might be using the H2A campaign Elite model or something like it and the fact that it’s based off Halo 3’s engine means they’re probably unrestricted.

And story wise it’s supposed to be all about allied Sangeili training alongside SIVs in Wargames.

Why couldn’t this be Halo 5?