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> > But it has just one flaw. Having Fire teams consisting of mixes of both SIVs and Sangheili wouldn’t exist. Which would really suck because having a team with mixed troops could lead to so many cool characters. I want mixed teams that work together just like Majestic does but the only difference is that some of the members would be Sangheili. Can you imagine just how cool that would be!
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> And I’m going to guess that when the Canadians and Seals teamed up there weren’t mixed squads consisting of both Canadians and Seals just Seal squads and Canadian squads working towards the same goal. Having mixed squads is something that I think would be very cool but I’ve said that already. And as I’ve already said before, what you’re suggesting that the Separatists and UNSC do is a completely reasonable thing to suggest but the one flaw of them working as separate forces is that there will be no mixed squads which will be a bit of a let down story wise and in some ways even game play wise.
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> And that’s not to say that I want Thel’s military to be completely absorbed by the Spartans. just a few hundred Sangheili foot soldiers should be Spartans and fight with the SIVs. While Thel should still have his military force in it’s entirety and be run by Thel and other Separatist leaders independently as their own full fledged faction. Think of it as a gesture of good will by the Arbiter along with an assurance to him that the UNSC trusts him so much and has nothing to hide that they’re willing to have his men living and working on one of their greatest assets. And since Arbiter will still have his own military there’s no reason why we still couldn’t have the UNSC and Separatists team up in the way that you suggest.
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> IDEA! How cool would it be if both factions traded a few soldiers instead of it being one way? Some Sangheili can join the Spartan branch while some SIVs can go work for the Arbiter? Just think of the story potential in that! Screw Palmer, Lasky, Infinity and the Branch, sign me up for a trip to Sanghelios!
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> And I just want to make the point to everyone that I don’t think the Sangheili’s culture should be used as a reason for them not to become Spartans. Up until a few years ago they thought that they were put in this galaxy by Forerunners to be the protectors of the Prophets and help them wipe out all life in the galaxy including themselves. This along with the fact that if the Sangheili are going to survive then they are going to have to start being farmers, mechanics and whatever their equivalent of that guy who buys beer for teenagers is as their main occupations. The sangheili are going through a huge cultural shift right now so I think anything could be possible with them.
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> And Waltey’s on the right track, lets just hope that whatever unity Humanity, The Sangheili, The Jiralhanea etc find themselves in it’s a lot more on the equal rights of all sentient species side of things then past powers have been.
I just don’t see why they have to be a static fireteam necessarily. If you think about it, Crimson isn’t static, it can be comprised of as many Spartans, and as many “Characters” as we want when we play Spartan Ops, Crimson can be a 2 Spartan Headhunter team, a full blown 4 Spartan squad, or even just a single badass Spartan known as “Crimson”. Master Chief didn’t need a Canonical excuse to be in a fireteam with the Arbiter, Ntho 'Soram, and Uzse 'Taham. But if you play 4 player coop they are a squad throughout the entire game. Didn’t mean those 3 Elites were a part of the Spartan II branch of the navy. They just worked together to accomplish the singular missions at hand, defeat Truth, and the Flood. In the same sense I don’t see why Crimson in Halo 4 couldn’t have been just teamed up with some of the Arbiter’s Elites just to accomplish a common goal of defeating the Covenant Remnant on Requiem. If Elites were in Spartan Ops in Halo 5, I don’t see why they can’t just design the game so that Elite players are receiving orders from Thel 'Vadam, as opposed to Sarah Palmer, who would be coordinating their efforts to accomplish that Spartan Ops story arc’s mission (said dialogue could even include times when Thel would communicate with Spartan players, and Palmer would communicate with Elite players on occasion as well, if say one is indisposed at the time, or the mission’s objective is being primarily handled by one faction, or the other) all it would require is some extra voice acting that only appears if there are Spartans or Elites in the game.
The alliance doesn’t include donating soldiers to one another’s military branches, it just includes the two separate factions working together to accomplish military goals. And if “Crimson” or “Crimson Team” is used to represent the Spartans in the game, why can’t the Elites be referred to by their own squad’s title.
