Sangheili (Elites) In New Trilogy Matchmaking (Part 1)

Games Halo 5: Guardians
8242

> > > you guys are using the wrong words.343 is trying to <mark>REDEFINE halo</mark>. and please try to stick more on topic.
> >
> >
> > Well if that’s so than they should stop because we all know how that turned out last time around.
> > Halo 4 population
>
> Even Halo Reach was peaking in the 100,000s in it’s second year, took Halo 4 less than 3 months to drop below the 100,000 mark for good.
>
> Halo 3 peaked 300,000 players when it was 2 years old, it took MW2’s release to start bringing that juggernaut down, and even then it never fell below an average peak of 150,000.
>
> The fact that Halo 4 was already peaking at 15,000 before it was even one year old is living proof that we just don’t want this game. <mark>We want HALO, the way HALO used to be.</mark> Otherwise we would actually play it now.

Who doesn’t?

The good ol’ Halo 3 days. I can remember them like it was just yesterday.

8243

Sangheili should be in the Multiplayer. Custom games atleast

8244

Flame this all you want but- how much do you expect to see people online in an all Spartan game. Heartache sinks in from playing it overtime and having a beloved part of your gameplay disabled. You can go ahead and blame 343 as much as you want but I’m not placing the blame on them. This is my third post in three pages listing that the lack of Sangheili was a requirement as a new trilogy starter by contract. They learned from their mistakes. The best thing to do is to forgive and look to the future. They’ve already said they will do “alot” for us. Trust what they say and get ready for all the games conventions this year. We will get our news. An important part of our news is the non-placeholder name of “Halo: Xbox One Edition” so people can finally call it by its real name instead of “Halo 5”, Microsoft came out and clearly said it is not “Halo 5” a week after E3. There is a games convention tomorrow and the next day, I hope they release its name. After that, I want to see some Sangheili gameplay. Don’t care if its campaign or multiplayer. I just want my Sangheili.

8245

> Flame this all you want but- how much do you expect to see people online in an all Spartan game. Heartache sinks in from playing it overtime and having a beloved part of your gameplay disabled. You can go ahead and blame 343 as much as you want but I’m not placing the blame on them. This is my third post in three pages listing that the lack of Sangheili was a requirement as a new trilogy starter by contract. They learned from their mistakes. The best thing to do is to forgive and look to the future. They’ve already said they will do “alot” for us. Trust what they say and get ready for all the games conventions this year. We will get our news. An important part of our news is the non-placeholder name of “Halo: Xbox One Edition” so people can finally call it by its real name instead of “Halo 5”, Microsoft came out and clearly said it is not “Halo 5” a week after E3. There is a games convention tomorrow and the next day, I hope they release its name. After that, I want to see some Sangheili gameplay. Don’t care if its campaign or multiplayer. I just want my Sangheili.

We have zero reason to believe they “learned from their mistakes”. If anything, all 343i has proven is that they did NOT learn from Bungie’s mistakes. We won’t have any clue whether or not they actually learned anything until they either come in here and tell us directly about the changes they are making this time around, or until we see some solid gameplay evidence of the changes we want to see. And even then we can’t know 100% that we’re getting what we really want out of the game until it’s released.

8246

Im also for starting a new sangheili clan with this community if the next halo gives us what we want.

…lol, this is kinda getting out of hand, let me put my own input now.

In my opinion, we have already done our task, and should have been heard, as we are almost actually a symbol for the rest of the community as we have the largest thread. We symbolize the community. And if 343 listens to us, the fans will think 343 actually do listen to the fanbase, but if they dont, they will just abandon a non community supported game,and thats where 343 will not redifine halo, but make their own halo.

so what should we do, I think any more outcry from our community wouldnt really reach 343, as they already know our presence and our requests. They are probably not going to look into the thread more than they had in the past. And unfortunately, by this time, just like last time, if they havent already considered it then it is too late.

Sooo, now what…keep the thread busy so it wont DIE, and wait till we hear from 343.Its painful, and our patience will definetly be the last straw on the camels back before it breaks. The longer they hold us like this while they have a bad answer for us, the worse the recoil from the community. Speaking of which, if 343 isnt/wasnt dumb, like have absolutely no brains, which I doubt, they will do SOMETHING AT LEAST for us, the Sangheili community.

And look, the thread isnt repeatedly being visited by us. More and more of the community is joining this thread, they too are beginning to see the light.

Soo, i would appreciate it to change our course of thought, as the evidence of the past is just right in our face, we dont forget that easily.

Here is a good question, with an obvious answer from 343, plasma rifle or storm rifle?

8247

> > lol, when you mention a post with not one ‘elite’/‘sangheili’/‘dino’/‘hunched back’ or anything else that refers to elites, it is kinda off topic. but you are right, your no more off topic then the person you replied to.
> >
> > Im not in support of what 343 is doing here , but nether the less, i dont really like flaming that much. You have every right to flame about, but in my opinion, its not what 343 acctually listens to. I agree, ordinance, sprint, poor vehicular wars, and ect. all made halo more like a ‘space COD’ and made it no longer unique and fun…but you forgot to mention elites…
> >
> > and for future reference, when i mention things like i just did, it is not each individual thing that i didnt like, it is the combination of them all.
>
> not trying to start a flame war here, and not targeting any specific person, we are all in favor of elites returning, so let us all be freinds and have peaceful conversations. You have your opinion that i agree with, so im not really arguing anything except the way we approach the problem

As Halo 4 was the game to exclude elites I do not see how general statements on it are off topic but will try to stay closer to the specific topic of this thread. Also I did not mean to flame.

8248

> > > > > > 343i wants to make their own Halo, and that’s the problem.
> > > > >
> > > > > The problem is Halo 4 could barely be called a Halo. It seems to me like they don’t want to make Halo they want to make another game with some vague Halo like attributes.
> > > >
> > > > Halo 4 got game of the year. It was made very well with the resources they had available to them. The gameplay is the smoothest I’ve seen so far in a Halo game and also, I repeat… The lack of Sangheili gameplay was a one game requirement. After that, they now have full creative control of the future of the series. They will fix anything that went wrong. Especially the lack of Sangheili gameplay. Also, I agree with saifa, try to be more on topic if you continue to complain.
> > >
> > > Halo didn’t win game of the year. Halo got a “Game of the Year” edition but never won a single game of the year award, that’s the funny thing about game re-releases is you’re allowed to call it pretty much whatever you want. Halo CE, Halo 2, and Halo 3 have all won game of the year awards, Halo 2 won more than any other Halo game. Halo 4 didn’t win a single one.
> > >
> > > Also, Halo 4 was in development for 4 years. 343i spent more time making this game than Bungie spent on Halo 2, 3 AND Reach. Not only that the game was branded “Gold” 7 months before it’s release date (most games are made “Gold” 3 months prior), meaning they could have spent as many as 4 more months working on the game if they chose to, there was no rush to complete it, there was plenty of time to make adjustments.
> > >
> > > And yet this is what we got.
> > >
> > > And no, plenty of these problems aren’t new to Halo 4. In fact MOST of the issues Halo 4 are facing are issues that saw fan outcry from Halo Reach. From Armour Abilities, to reduced Elite presence. And yet instead of listening to a community saying “Reach isn’t the Halo game we want to play.” The community was blatantly ignored and 343i opted to actually EXPAND, and WORSEN several of the issues we were already complaining about in 2010.
> > >
> > > Despite making a very well designed Reach TU and an amazing remake of Halo CE as a way of trying to convince us that they knew what we wanted from them. Both of which were well receive by Halo veterans, heck the TU actually saved Halo Reach from being knocked off the MLG circuit. They decided to take Halo 4 in the one direction nobody wanted it to go. And yes it sold well because of clever advertising, but 343i lost the one thing they NEED from fans. They lost our trust. The ONLY way they can regain it is by catering the game specifically to the players who didn’t like Halo 4, and making future Halo titles crafted around the ideals of the original trilogy. And even then they have to actually convince their now lost fans that they won’t mess up this time around, that will be the hardest thing to do.
> > >
> > > It’d simple, if Halo 5 isn’t both designed based on what the majority of Halo players want, AND well advertised, it is guaranteed to be the worst-selling Halo game of all time. Because no matter how well they advertise a game that still has Sprint, AA’s, no Elites, and Ordinance Drops, none of the now lost community is going to take interest. Likewise if they make a great game but don’t capitalize and focus their advertising on TELLING us they listened and they ACTUALLY went back to basics and ACTUALLY tried to model the game after the original franchise, none of the lost community will pay it enough mind to try it.
> >
> > Mostly agree except for the part about aa and sprint which are changes I liked from Halo 3. Please no flaming that is just what I think and I do understand how you feel about 343 not putting in classic modes which they promised and could have easily done but did not.
>
> .

That has got to be the most eloquent reply I have gotten on this subject, Thank You! I know Reach wasn’t perfect and a lot things in that game irritated the hell out of me! But also I loved a lot of the changes in Reach and frankly some of the most fun I’ve had in gaming has happened in Reach. I understand perhaps the same could be said for you and Halo 3. So before we get to off topic I will say I hope we both get what we want not the least of which is playable elites!

8249

> Flame this all you want but- how much do you expect to see people online in an all Spartan game. Heartache sinks in from playing it overtime and having a beloved part of your gameplay disabled. You can go ahead and blame 343 as much as you want but I’m not placing the blame on them. This is my third post in three pages listing that the lack of Sangheili was a requirement as a new trilogy starter by contract. They learned from their mistakes. The best thing to do is to forgive and look to the future. They’ve already said they will do “alot” for us. Trust what they say and get ready for all the games conventions this year. We will get our news. An important part of our news is the non-placeholder name of “Halo: Xbox One Edition” so people can finally call it by its real name instead of “Halo 5”, Microsoft came out and clearly said it is not “Halo 5” a week after E3. There is a games convention tomorrow and the next day, I hope they release its name. After that, I want to see some Sangheili gameplay. Don’t care if its campaign or multiplayer. I just want my Sangheili.

This I definitely know of.Thanks for bringing up the contract to the table.Some hate 343i for what they did to our beloved trilogy,but lets hate their actions and not 343i.Though I was in the days of Halo 3 for a limited amount of time,it does quite give me the nostalgic feel.I think there’s a disconnect between 343i,Bungie and the community.343i should recreate some of those utterly classic maps,perhaps one of Zealot,the remake of Heretic,which is the remake of Midship,to have a greater amount of connection with Bungie,the original creators which we all know and love.I’ll take a leap of faith on Halo Xbox One,and I’m confident 343i will nail it.Wow,this post took me the longest of all the others I have to compose and think of.Information overload!Processing all these posts.Nice to see such active participation amongst this thread’s followers.

Question:Are there currently existing Sangheili clans?I have heard of one from Reach however I am unsure of their current status and longevity.If there really are none right now,I’m all in for the idea of a clan in Halo Xbox One.Food for thought.

8250

> This I definitely know of.Thanks for bringing up the contract to the table.Some hate 343i for what they did to our beloved trilogy,but lets hate their actions and not 343i.Though I was in the days of Halo 3 for a limited amount of time,it does quite give me the nostalgic feel.I think there’s a disconnect between 343i,Bungie and the community.343i should recreate some of those utterly classic maps,perhaps one of Zealot,the remake of Heretic,which is the remake of Midship,to have a greater amount of connection with Bungie,the original creators which we all know and love.I’ll take a leap of faith on Halo Xbox One,and I’m confident 343i will nail it.Wow,this post took me the longest of all the others I have to compose and think of.Information overload!Processing all these posts.Nice to see such active participation amongst this thread’s followers.
>
> Question:Are there currently existing Sangheili clans?I have heard of one from Reach however I am unsure of their current status and longevity.If there really are none right now,I’m all in for the idea of a clan in Halo Xbox One.Food for thought.

Yes sir, my clan, The Sangheili Of The Mythic Dawn (SOTMD) has been up and running for 2 and a half years. Even through our gameplay absence we still have been able to stay strong and loyal to Halo. We readily await the next FPS installment. Also, thank you for noticing my comment on the contract. I believe 343i would be receiving much less hostility from angry fans if they were more open about the contract to the community, still. Halo 4 was their equivalent to Combat Evolved, and we all know what came next in Halo 2. (Sangheili!)

8251

> > Flame this all you want but- how much do you expect to see people online in an all Spartan game. Heartache sinks in from playing it overtime and having a beloved part of your gameplay disabled. You can go ahead and blame 343 as much as you want but I’m not placing the blame on them. This is my third post in three pages listing that the lack of Sangheili was a requirement as a new trilogy starter by contract. They learned from their mistakes. The best thing to do is to forgive and look to the future. They’ve already said they will do “alot” for us. Trust what they say and get ready for all the games conventions this year. We will get our news. An important part of our news is the non-placeholder name of “Halo: Xbox One Edition” so people can finally call it by its real name instead of “Halo 5”, Microsoft came out and clearly said it is not “Halo 5” a week after E3. There is a games convention tomorrow and the next day, I hope they release its name. After that, I want to see some Sangheili gameplay. Don’t care if its campaign or multiplayer. I just want my Sangheili.
>
> We have zero reason to believe they “learned from their mistakes”. If anything, all 343i has proven is that they did NOT learn from Bungie’s mistakes. We won’t have any clue whether or not they actually learned anything until they either come in here and tell us directly about the changes they are making this time around, or until we see some solid gameplay evidence of the changes we want to see. And even then we can’t know 100% that we’re getting what we really want out of the game until it’s released.

Thank You! Finally, someone here that doesn’t go off of hope, but rather facts.

8252

> > Flame this all you want but- how much do you expect to see people online in an all Spartan game. Heartache sinks in from playing it overtime and having a beloved part of your gameplay disabled. You can go ahead and blame 343 as much as you want but I’m not placing the blame on them. This is my third post in three pages listing that the lack of Sangheili was a requirement as a new trilogy starter by contract. They learned from their mistakes. The best thing to do is to forgive and look to the future. They’ve already said they will do “alot” for us. Trust what they say and get ready for all the games conventions this year. We will get our news. An important part of our news is the non-placeholder name of “Halo: Xbox One Edition” so people can finally call it by its real name instead of “Halo 5”, Microsoft came out and clearly said it is not “Halo 5” a week after E3. There is a games convention tomorrow and the next day, I hope they release its name. After that, I want to see some Sangheili gameplay. Don’t care if its campaign or multiplayer. I just want my Sangheili.
>
> This I definitely know of.Thanks for bringing up the contract to the table.Some hate 343i for what they did to our beloved trilogy,but lets hate their actions and not 343i.Though I was in the days of Halo 3 for a limited amount of time,it does quite give me the nostalgic feel.I think there’s a disconnect between 343i,Bungie and the community.343i should recreate some of those utterly classic maps,perhaps one of Zealot,the remake of Heretic,which is the remake of Midship,to have a greater amount of connection with Bungie,the original creators which we all know and love.I’ll take a leap of faith on Halo Xbox One,and I’m confident 343i will nail it.Wow,this post took me the longest of all the others I have to compose and think of.Information overload!Processing all these posts.Nice to see such active participation amongst this thread’s followers.
>
> Question:<mark>Are there currently existing Sangheili clans?</mark>I have heard of one from Reach however I am unsure of their current status and longevity.If there really are none right now,I’m all in for the idea of a clan in Halo Xbox One.Food for thought.

Yes, you have RSL,BTF,Legendary Vanguard, Separatist Fleet, and many more I can’t remeber at this time.

EDIT: Personally, I’m in Separatist Fleet.

8253

It is good to see this thread is still going strong, and its even better to see that there are still sangheili clans out there, its hard to think that this thread was made so long ago… but alas my brothers, even if sangheili are in the next installment of halo, I will not be able to join you I’m afraid, I’ve gone entirely to PCs now, so I will not be there for your next step in the great journey… though perhaps if halo were to spread to the PC (which is a possibility, however slim, demonstrated by ‘spartan assualt’) then maybe, just maybe our paths will cross again.

8254

> > > Flame this all you want but- how much do you expect to see people online in an all Spartan game. Heartache sinks in from playing it overtime and having a beloved part of your gameplay disabled. You can go ahead and blame 343 as much as you want but I’m not placing the blame on them. This is my third post in three pages listing that the lack of Sangheili was a requirement as a new trilogy starter by contract. They learned from their mistakes. The best thing to do is to forgive and look to the future. They’ve already said they will do “alot” for us. Trust what they say and get ready for all the games conventions this year. We will get our news. An important part of our news is the non-placeholder name of “Halo: Xbox One Edition” so people can finally call it by its real name instead of “Halo 5”, Microsoft came out and clearly said it is not “Halo 5” a week after E3. There is a games convention tomorrow and the next day, I hope they release its name. After that, I want to see some Sangheili gameplay. Don’t care if its campaign or multiplayer. I just want my Sangheili.
> >
> > This I definitely know of.Thanks for bringing up the contract to the table.Some hate 343i for what they did to our beloved trilogy,but lets hate their actions and not 343i.Though I was in the days of Halo 3 for a limited amount of time,it does quite give me the nostalgic feel.I think there’s a disconnect between 343i,Bungie and the community.343i should recreate some of those utterly classic maps,perhaps one of Zealot,the remake of Heretic,which is the remake of Midship,to have a greater amount of connection with Bungie,the original creators which we all know and love.I’ll take a leap of faith on Halo Xbox One,and I’m confident 343i will nail it.Wow,this post took me the longest of all the others I have to compose and think of.Information overload!Processing all these posts.Nice to see such active participation amongst this thread’s followers.
> >
> > Question:<mark>Are there currently existing Sangheili clans?</mark>I have heard of one from Reach however I am unsure of their current status and longevity.If there really are none right now,I’m all in for the idea of a clan in Halo Xbox One.Food for thought.
>
> Yes, you have RSL,BTF,Legendary Vanguard, Separatist Fleet, and many more I can’t remeber at this time.
>
> EDIT: Personally, I’m in Separatist Fleet.

Believe it or not, The Sovereign Guard is still around as well. Of course, we’ve been around for 8 years, but we’ve persevered through this Dark Age of Halo. We readily await Destiny, as well as news on the next installment in the Halo series.

8255

> > > > Flame this all you want but- how much do you expect to see people online in an all Spartan game. Heartache sinks in from playing it overtime and having a beloved part of your gameplay disabled. You can go ahead and blame 343 as much as you want but I’m not placing the blame on them. This is my third post in three pages listing that the lack of Sangheili was a requirement as a new trilogy starter by contract. They learned from their mistakes. The best thing to do is to forgive and look to the future. They’ve already said they will do “alot” for us. Trust what they say and get ready for all the games conventions this year. We will get our news. An important part of our news is the non-placeholder name of “Halo: Xbox One Edition” so people can finally call it by its real name instead of “Halo 5”, Microsoft came out and clearly said it is not “Halo 5” a week after E3. There is a games convention tomorrow and the next day, I hope they release its name. After that, I want to see some Sangheili gameplay. Don’t care if its campaign or multiplayer. I just want my Sangheili.
> > >
> > > This I definitely know of.Thanks for bringing up the contract to the table.Some hate 343i for what they did to our beloved trilogy,but lets hate their actions and not 343i.Though I was in the days of Halo 3 for a limited amount of time,it does quite give me the nostalgic feel.I think there’s a disconnect between 343i,Bungie and the community.343i should recreate some of those utterly classic maps,perhaps one of Zealot,the remake of Heretic,which is the remake of Midship,to have a greater amount of connection with Bungie,the original creators which we all know and love.I’ll take a leap of faith on Halo Xbox One,and I’m confident 343i will nail it.Wow,this post took me the longest of all the others I have to compose and think of.Information overload!Processing all these posts.Nice to see such active participation amongst this thread’s followers.
> > >
> > > Question:<mark>Are there currently existing Sangheili clans?</mark>I have heard of one from Reach however I am unsure of their current status and longevity.If there really are none right now,I’m all in for the idea of a clan in Halo Xbox One.Food for thought.
> >
> > Yes, you have RSL,BTF,Legendary Vanguard, Separatist Fleet, and many more I can’t remeber at this time.
> >
> > EDIT: Personally, I’m in Separatist Fleet.
>
> Believe it or not, The Sovereign Guard is still around as well. Of course, we’ve been around for 8 years, but we’ve persevered through this Dark Age of Halo. We readily await Destiny, as well as news on the next installment in the Halo series.

My bad Rathas I knew I forgot a clan.

8256

I guess this means, the CFS, the clan i used to be in, and the leader of the clan, who originally posted this whole thread acctually collapsed…wow. never thought that would happen

8257

> I guess this means, <mark>the CFS</mark>, the clan i used to be in, and the leader of the clan, who originally posted this whole thread acctually collapsed…wow. never thought that would happen

It could have I’ve never heard of it, but they could’ve just changed the names or merged with another clan.

8258

> > I guess this means, <mark>the CFS</mark>, the clan i used to be in, and the leader of the clan, who originally posted this whole thread acctually collapsed…wow. never thought that would happen
>
> It could have I’ve never heard of it, but they could’ve just changed the names or merged with another clan.

He means CSF, Crusading Spirit Fleet.

And yes, it is dead. Onea and I were effectively forced to let it die, as instead of returning to Reach, or Halo 3, our members opted to simply quit playing Halo in general.

I’m surprised any of the clans still scraping by on Reach have more than 8 members. It’s a 3 year old game that so many people hated in the first place. You’d think Sangheili clans would find more to survive off of in Halo 3.

8259

> > > I guess this means, <mark>the CFS</mark>, the clan i used to be in, and the leader of the clan, who originally posted this whole thread acctually collapsed…wow. never thought that would happen
> >
> > It could have I’ve never heard of it, but they could’ve just changed the names or merged with another clan.
>
> He means CSF, Crusading Spirit Fleet.
>
> And yes, it is dead. Onea and I were effectively forced to let it die, as instead of returning to Reach, or Halo 3, our members opted to simply quit playing Halo in general.
>
> I’m surprised any of the clans still scraping by on Reach have more than 8 members. It’s a 3 year old game that so many people hated in the first place. <mark>You’d think Sangheili clans would find more to survive off of in Halo 3</mark>.

Oh, I’ve heard before that you had to shutdown a clan, but I didn’t know what it was called. That ashame you had to do that.

Yea, I find it pretty ironic that a lot people hated Reach ( I wasn’t one of them, but I did hate AL) and yet all of the Sangheili clans are on Reach.

8260

> > > > I guess this means, <mark>the CFS</mark>, the clan i used to be in, and the leader of the clan, who originally posted this whole thread acctually collapsed…wow. never thought that would happen
> > >
> > > It could have I’ve never heard of it, but they could’ve just changed the names or merged with another clan.
> >
> > He means CSF, Crusading Spirit Fleet.
> >
> > And yes, it is dead. Onea and I were effectively forced to let it die, as instead of returning to Reach, or Halo 3, our members opted to simply quit playing Halo in general.
> >
> > I’m surprised any of the clans still scraping by on Reach have more than 8 members. It’s a 3 year old game that so many people hated in the first place. <mark>You’d think Sangheili clans would find more to survive off of in Halo 3</mark>.
>
> Oh, I’ve heard before that you had to shutdown a clan, but I didn’t know what it was called. That ashame you had to do that.
>
> Yea, I find it pretty ironic that a lot people hated Reach ( I wasn’t one of them, but I did hate AL) and yet all of the Sangheili clans are on Reach.

Well,Reach does have a lot of versatility and you can play custom games with your friends.Thats pretty much where I source all my Sangheili play in Reach,and to be brutally honest,Halo 3 is slightly,well,outdated.

And its nice to see existing clans that have lasted so long,especially the Sovereign Guard,whose presence has lasted for 8 years.I’m impressed.

Hail all clans,and take heed,our glorious and triumphant return is nigh.

And Ender Ghost,would you ever reconsider playing on the Xbox 360 or Xbox One again if Halo Xbox One is good enough.

I’d like to thank everyone who are following and have participated in this thread.I’ve been cut off from Xbox Live for about 4 months now,its hit me pretty hard.But it is this thread which has allowed me to stay connected to the community and voice my views openly.And for that I thank you,all of you.

8261

In my opinion i believe that the whole “canon” multiplayer should be tossed out the
window…

-Return halo multiplayer to its core and build off it there.
-Keep classic playlists and game-modes and have infinity(or whatever it will be called in the next game) slayer as well.
-allow elite player models (in addition add elite slayer like halo reach)
-allow a greater diversity of elite customization as well as spartans
-PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE return elites to their cool, blue/grey, smooth skin look.

Might as well throw this in as well:

-full custom game-mode settings like in reach
-proper file share
-allow us to be able to render saved clips and images in file share on our PC’s
it would make filming and editing waaay easier especially for machinima makers
instead of having to buy capture hardware