Sangheili (Elites) In New Trilogy Matchmaking (Part 1)

> To above, “Sure that’s a troll, I bet you it was a kid who just joined the series and knows nothing of it.”
>
> And lets see what else I missed, ban hammer I see.
>
> hmm, speaking of Halo 5 how soon does everyone think that it will appear? And what of a Halo 2 Anniversary?
>
> Keep the ball rolling folks.
>
>
> And finally more questions, what of Lore now. With the great Covenant Fleets disbanded OR becoming splinter factions what of the Sangheili who know nothing but war? Would they become mercenaries and seek honor that way to die upon a field of battle for their own honor?
> Or to seek strength?
> Or to turn the tide into something more favorable?
>
> Just saying, despite the main Sangheili Empire that is far far bigger than what the UNSC hopes it to be, and a lot smarter than a certain author imagines it, what factors do we not see and can only speculate?
>
> Even more questions beg.
> How many of YOUR Sangheili be you shipmasters or spec ops would be out fighting now and against who? Like questioned above, how many would be loyal to the new regime under the Arbiter, and how many to themselves to seek a new front?
>
> I pose these just because the discussions are awesome…and how everyone views it. Keep our minds safe and sane while we await our answers in the future.
>
> Sincerely
> Skythe

I just want Halo 5 to come out when it’s finished. A Halo 2/3 joint anniversary isn’t out of the question. For mp they could add the best of both worlds. The leftover Sangheili from the covenant war probably all went their separate ways depending on their beliefs while most are likely to have joined the Arbiter since they saw the prophet’s lies before them when the great schism occurred. Some of the more fanatical might have gone to join Jul providing him with the ability to train his troops by using those with military experience. We can speculate if the economy has begun to grow stronger and if the Sangheili are beginning to learn how to create and repair their technology. We can also speculate if a human task force has been assigned to help teach Sangheili about their current technology and that ships made by their hands alone could look different. Who knows maybe we could see human humanitarians begin calling for the destruction of ONI’s Sangheili virus if they found out, it could get out if there was an inside operative leak the secret if they found it disgusting of ONI to create such a thing against possible new allies. It could also lead to a new rebel faction against ONI who could be welcomed on Sangheilios for their defense of the Sangheili.

> > To above, “Sure that’s a troll, I bet you it was a kid who just joined the series and knows nothing of it.”
> >
> > And lets see what else I missed, ban hammer I see.
> >
> > hmm, speaking of Halo 5 how soon does everyone think that it will appear? And what of a Halo 2 Anniversary?
> >
> > Keep the ball rolling folks.
> >
> >
> > And finally more questions, what of Lore now. With the great Covenant Fleets disbanded OR becoming splinter factions what of the Sangheili who know nothing but war? Would they become mercenaries and seek honor that way to die upon a field of battle for their own honor?
> > Or to seek strength?
> > Or to turn the tide into something more favorable?
> >
> > Just saying, despite the main Sangheili Empire that is far far bigger than what the UNSC hopes it to be, and a lot smarter than a certain author imagines it, what factors do we not see and can only speculate?
> >
> > Even more questions beg.
> > How many of YOUR Sangheili be you shipmasters or spec ops would be out fighting now and against who? Like questioned above, how many would be loyal to the new regime under the Arbiter, and how many to themselves to seek a new front?
> > I pose these just because the discussions are awesome…and how everyone views it. Keep our minds safe and sane while we await our answers in the future.
> >
> > Sincerely
> > Skythe
>
> I believe the Arbiter would have already gathered a sizeable armada.He returned to Sanghelios at the end of Halo 3 to settle the ongoing civil war.Thel himself has seen through the Prophets’ lies and his words would probably carry a lot of weight and have large spheres of influence as he holds the title of Arbiter.And the fact that they are probably the only armed faction on Sanghelios leaves them unopposed.Meanwhile,during the Arbiter’s absence in Halo 4,he and his armada could have made improvements in weaponry and technology,and we may see new weapons originating from our’s truly.

I’m assuming you haven’t read any of Karen Traviss’s Halo books. To sum them up Sangheilios is in a civil war, the gigantic Covenant fleet has either disappeared or stopped working and can apparently be defeated by one ship no larger than a Covenant assault carrier, and Elites are now ignorant idiots that can’t change their own light bulbs or farm. Makes total sense doesn’t it?

> > > To above, “Sure that’s a troll, I bet you it was a kid who just joined the series and knows nothing of it.”
> > >
> > > And lets see what else I missed, ban hammer I see.
> > >
> > > hmm, speaking of Halo 5 how soon does everyone think that it will appear? And what of a Halo 2 Anniversary?
> > >
> > > Keep the ball rolling folks.
> > >
> > >
> > > And finally more questions, what of Lore now. With the great Covenant Fleets disbanded OR becoming splinter factions what of the Sangheili who know nothing but war? Would they become mercenaries and seek honor that way to die upon a field of battle for their own honor?
> > > Or to seek strength?
> > > Or to turn the tide into something more favorable?
> > >
> > > Just saying, despite the main Sangheili Empire that is far far bigger than what the UNSC hopes it to be, and a lot smarter than a certain author imagines it, what factors do we not see and can only speculate?
> > >
> > > Even more questions beg.
> > > How many of YOUR Sangheili be you shipmasters or spec ops would be out fighting now and against who? Like questioned above, how many would be loyal to the new regime under the Arbiter, and how many to themselves to seek a new front?
> > > I pose these just because the discussions are awesome…and how everyone views it. Keep our minds safe and sane while we await our answers in the future.
> > >
> > > Sincerely
> > > Skythe
> >
> > I believe the Arbiter would have already gathered a sizeable armada.He returned to Sanghelios at the end of Halo 3 to settle the ongoing civil war.Thel himself has seen through the Prophets’ lies and his words would probably carry a lot of weight and have large spheres of influence as he holds the title of Arbiter.And the fact that they are probably the only armed faction on Sanghelios leaves them unopposed.Meanwhile,during the Arbiter’s absence in Halo 4,he and his armada could have made improvements in weaponry and technology,and we may see new weapons originating from our’s truly.
>
> I’m assuming you haven’t read any of Karen Traviss’s Halo books. To sum them up Sangheilios is in a civil war, the gigantic Covenant fleet has either disappeared or stopped working and can apparently be defeated by one ship no larger than a Covenant assault carrier, and Elites are now ignorant idiots that can’t change their own light bulbs or farm. Makes total sense doesn’t it?

Its true that I haven’t read the book,so forgive me for my ignorance and any loopholes that seem contradictory and does not conform to the canon stated in the books.

It has been speculated that Promethean Knights and the Forerunner enemies will return in Halo Xbox One.To add to strategic campaign gameplay,it’d be nice if we see Sangheili incorporated into strike teams with Promethean Knights,like how Sangheili Rangers would accompany Generals in strike teams in Halo Reach’s firefight.The strike team played to each rank’s weaknesses and supplemented it.The Rangers used their mobility to quickly circumvent terrain and the more experienced Generals would wipe the floor with the Spartans using heavy weaponry.Seeing such a similar mechanic in Halo Xbox One with Sangheili and Prometheans would make gameplay more diverse.Such Knight and Sangheili strike teams could canonically function like the Zealot artefact recovery teams we see in Reach.A new rank could be developed purely for this purpose and their armour could take a distinct Forerunner-esque look.

> > > > To above, “Sure that’s a troll, I bet you it was a kid who just joined the series and knows nothing of it.”
> > > >
> > > > And lets see what else I missed, ban hammer I see.
> > > >
> > > > hmm, speaking of Halo 5 how soon does everyone think that it will appear? And what of a Halo 2 Anniversary?
> > > >
> > > > Keep the ball rolling folks.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > And finally more questions, what of Lore now. With the great Covenant Fleets disbanded OR becoming splinter factions what of the Sangheili who know nothing but war? Would they become mercenaries and seek honor that way to die upon a field of battle for their own honor?
> > > > Or to seek strength?
> > > > Or to turn the tide into something more favorable?
> > > >
> > > > Just saying, despite the main Sangheili Empire that is far far bigger than what the UNSC hopes it to be, and a lot smarter than a certain author imagines it, what factors do we not see and can only speculate?
> > > >
> > > > Even more questions beg.
> > > > How many of YOUR Sangheili be you shipmasters or spec ops would be out fighting now and against who? Like questioned above, how many would be loyal to the new regime under the Arbiter, and how many to themselves to seek a new front?
> > > > I pose these just because the discussions are awesome…and how everyone views it. Keep our minds safe and sane while we await our answers in the future.
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely
> > > > Skythe
> > >
> > > I believe the Arbiter would have already gathered a sizeable armada.He returned to Sanghelios at the end of Halo 3 to settle the ongoing civil war.Thel himself has seen through the Prophets’ lies and his words would probably carry a lot of weight and have large spheres of influence as he holds the title of Arbiter.And the fact that they are probably the only armed faction on Sanghelios leaves them unopposed.Meanwhile,during the Arbiter’s absence in Halo 4,he and his armada could have made improvements in weaponry and technology,and we may see new weapons originating from our’s truly.
> >
> > I’m assuming you haven’t read any of Karen Traviss’s Halo books. To sum them up Sangheilios is in a civil war, the gigantic Covenant fleet has either disappeared or stopped working and can apparently be defeated by one ship no larger than a Covenant assault carrier, and Elites are now ignorant idiots that can’t change their own light bulbs or farm. Makes total sense doesn’t it?
>
> Its true that I haven’t read the book,so forgive me for my ignorance and any loopholes that seem contradictory and does not conform to the canon stated in the books.
>
> It has been speculated that Promethean Knights and the Forerunner enemies will return in Halo Xbox One.To add to strategic campaign gameplay,it’d be nice if we see Sangheili incorporated into strike teams with Promethean Knights,like how Sangheili Rangers would accompany Generals in strike teams in Halo Reach’s firefight.The strike team played to each rank’s weaknesses and supplemented it.The Rangers used their mobility to quickly circumvent terrain and the more experienced Generals would wipe the floor with the Spartans using heavy weaponry.Seeing such a similar mechanic in Halo Xbox One with Sangheili and Prometheans would make gameplay more diverse.Such Knight and Sangheili strike teams could canonically function like the Zealot artefact recovery teams we see in Reach.A new rank could be developed purely for this purpose and their armour could take a distinct Forerunner-esque look.

I would read the books. They’re pretty good.

Technically, Prometheans can’t come back. Jul sent it flying into the sun, remember?

No offence guys, but I think we should stick more to the topic of the thread. How about Invasion 2.0? Or Sangheili integration into matchmaking? Should we have a separate playlist, or should we be confined to Invasion and Custom Games like Halo: Reach? To tell you the truth, Elites in regular matchmaking would just not work. Not without major design changes (Halo 3 hunch-backed MM Elites). I personally like the hulking, intimidating Elites from every other game.

I would like to see Sangheili return in matchmaking. H4 was good for a time but lost it’s appeal to me in a matter of months. I then just continued (and still do) to play Reach. If Sangheili are to return then I’d like to see:

  • customisable armour like in h3
  • The ability to play as them in all playlists.
  • The evade ability make a return.
  • Have the energy knives come out when performing an assassination. The Sangheili assassinations on Reach will remain the coolest looking.
  • Invasion (my all time favourite playlist)

There is still a relatively large Sangheili community out there. It would be boosted if Sangheili are playable in H5 and 6. However, I do remember why 343 couldn’t put them on H4 though and it was due to legal reasons I think.

> I would like to see Sangheili return in matchmaking. H4 was good for a time but lost it’s appeal to me in a matter of months. I then just continued (and still do) to play Reach. If Sangheili are to return then I’d like to see:
> - customisable armour like in h3
> - The ability to play as them in all playlists.
> - The evade ability make a return.
> - Have the energy knives come out when performing an assassination. The Sangheili assassinations on Reach will remain the coolest looking.
> - Invasion (my all time favourite playlist)
>
> There is still a relatively large Sangheili community out there. It would be boosted if Sangheili are playable in H5 and 6. However, I do remember why 343 couldn’t put them on H4 though and it was due to legal reasons I think.

Least you got the right idea of getting Elite’s back into Matchmaking. Hence why I still enjoy Halo 3 more than Reach. More variety of species in every kind of playlist and without being restricted from what I wanted to play, however I wanted to play it as. Just as long as we are not hunch backs and that we are not too damn tall.

Halo 2 had it right in terms of Sangheili and Spartans on the same play list.

Though perhaps there should be a few differences.

ie the evasion over sprinting, since after all who perfected that before the Spartans?

Honestly I can live with a bigger hit box, and I’d rather not be a hunchback. What I would like to see is the load out change.

Maybe playing as a Sangheili would allow a different way of supporting not only your battle brothers but the lil humies in their power armor. AS well as having shared load outs such as Jet Packing or a regen field.

IDK who would have what?

How’s my elite?

> > > > > To above, “Sure that’s a troll, I bet you it was a kid who just joined the series and knows nothing of it.”
> > > > >
> > > > > And lets see what else I missed, ban hammer I see.
> > > > >
> > > > > hmm, speaking of Halo 5 how soon does everyone think that it will appear? And what of a Halo 2 Anniversary?
> > > > >
> > > > > Keep the ball rolling folks.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > And finally more questions, what of Lore now. With the great Covenant Fleets disbanded OR becoming splinter factions what of the Sangheili who know nothing but war? Would they become mercenaries and seek honor that way to die upon a field of battle for their own honor?
> > > > > Or to seek strength?
> > > > > Or to turn the tide into something more favorable?
> > > > >
> > > > > Just saying, despite the main Sangheili Empire that is far far bigger than what the UNSC hopes it to be, and a lot smarter than a certain author imagines it, what factors do we not see and can only speculate?
> > > > >
> > > > > Even more questions beg.
> > > > > How many of YOUR Sangheili be you shipmasters or spec ops would be out fighting now and against who? Like questioned above, how many would be loyal to the new regime under the Arbiter, and how many to themselves to seek a new front?
> > > > > I pose these just because the discussions are awesome…and how everyone views it. Keep our minds safe and sane while we await our answers in the future.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sincerely
> > > > > Skythe
> > > >
> > > > I believe the Arbiter would have already gathered a sizeable armada.He returned to Sanghelios at the end of Halo 3 to settle the ongoing civil war.Thel himself has seen through the Prophets’ lies and his words would probably carry a lot of weight and have large spheres of influence as he holds the title of Arbiter.And the fact that they are probably the only armed faction on Sanghelios leaves them unopposed.Meanwhile,during the Arbiter’s absence in Halo 4,he and his armada could have made improvements in weaponry and technology,and we may see new weapons originating from our’s truly.
> > >
> > > I’m assuming you haven’t read any of Karen Traviss’s Halo books. To sum them up Sangheilios is in a civil war, the gigantic Covenant fleet has either disappeared or stopped working and can apparently be defeated by one ship no larger than a Covenant assault carrier, and Elites are now ignorant idiots that can’t change their own light bulbs or farm. Makes total sense doesn’t it?
> >
> > Its true that I haven’t read the book,so forgive me for my ignorance and any loopholes that seem contradictory and does not conform to the canon stated in the books.
> >
> > It has been speculated that Promethean Knights and the Forerunner enemies will return in Halo Xbox One.To add to strategic campaign gameplay,it’d be nice if we see Sangheili incorporated into strike teams with Promethean Knights,like how Sangheili Rangers would accompany Generals in strike teams in Halo Reach’s firefight.The strike team played to each rank’s weaknesses and supplemented it.The Rangers used their mobility to quickly circumvent terrain and the more experienced Generals would wipe the floor with the Spartans using heavy weaponry.Seeing such a similar mechanic in Halo Xbox One with Sangheili and Prometheans would make gameplay more diverse.Such Knight and Sangheili strike teams could canonically function like the Zealot artefact recovery teams we see in Reach.A new rank could be developed purely for this purpose and their armour could take a distinct Forerunner-esque look.
>
> I would read the books. They’re pretty good.
>
> Technically, Prometheans can’t come back. Jul sent it flying into the sun, remember?
>
> No offence guys, but I think we should stick more to the topic of the thread. How about Invasion 2.0? Or Sangheili integration into matchmaking? Should we have a separate playlist, or should we be confined to Invasion and Custom Games like Halo: Reach? <mark>To tell you the truth, Elites in regular matchmaking would just not work.</mark> Not without major design changes (Halo 3 hunch-backed MM Elites). I personally like the hulking, intimidating Elites from every other game.

Sangheili can work if 343i put the effort in making them work for all aspects of Halo 5’s MP. Just like how Sangheili were in H2, and H3. (Except w/o the ugly hunch-back.)

> How’s my elite?

Start learning human anatomy first before deciding to work on complicated figures and such. This is a critique from an artist by the way.

> > How’s my elite?
>
> Start learning human anatomy first before deciding to work on complicated figures and such. This is a critique from an artist by the way.

Well, it softens the punch when you say you have experience. lol jk I drew that years ago. I’ve just been too lazy to improve it.

> Halo 2 had it right in terms of Sangheili and Spartans on the same play list.
>
> Though perhaps there should be a few differences.
>
> ie the evasion over sprinting, since after all who perfected that before the Spartans?
>
> Honestly I can live with a bigger hit box, and I’d rather not be a hunchback. What I would like to see is the load out change.
>
> Maybe playing as a Sangheili would allow a different way of supporting not only your battle brothers but the lil humies in their power armor. AS well as having shared load outs such as Jet Packing or a regen field.
>
> IDK who would have what?

My sentiments exactly.I wouldn’t mind being a larger target for the sake of aesthetic accuracy.Speaking of armour abilities,343i would have to design different shapes for the armour abilities of Sangheili,regardless of whether they use the same ones as humans like they did in Reach.I’d like the Sangheili jetpack/anti-gravity pack to be a little different from Reach.It’d be nice to have a purple orange flame emitting from the thrusters.I’d hope that different armour abilities besides jetpack would look different for either species at the waist level where it is positioned.So for example,Promethean Vision and Hardlight shield would look different from each other and a single armour ability would have a unique styling to each species.So basically one AA having 2 designs.

> To above, “Sure that’s a troll, I bet you it was a kid who just joined the series and knows nothing of it.”
>
> And lets see what else I missed, ban hammer I see.
>
> hmm, speaking of Halo 5 how soon does everyone think that it will appear? And what of a Halo 2 Anniversary?
>
> Keep the ball rolling folks.
>
>
> And finally more questions, what of Lore now. With the great Covenant Fleets disbanded OR becoming splinter factions what of the Sangheili who know nothing but war? Would they become mercenaries and seek honor that way to die upon a field of battle for their own honor?
> Or to seek strength?
> Or to turn the tide into something more favorable?
>
> Just saying, despite the main Sangheili Empire that is far far bigger than what the UNSC hopes it to be, and a lot smarter than a certain author imagines it, what factors do we not see and can only speculate?
>
> Even more questions beg.
> How many of YOUR Sangheili be you shipmasters or spec ops would be out fighting now and against who? Like questioned above, how many would be loyal to the new regime under the Arbiter, and how many to themselves to seek a new front?
>
> I pose these just because the discussions are awesome…and how everyone views it. Keep our minds safe and sane while we await our answers in the future.
>
> Sincerely
> Skythe

More blind Traviss bashing. By the way there is no Sangheili empire. There is the Covenant which no longer exists and some colonies, none of which are united by any sort of government now that the Covenant is gone.

> More blind Traviss bashing. By the way there is no Sangheili empire. There is the Covenant which no longer exists and some colonies, none of which are united by any sort of government now that the Covenant is gone.

I think we already have been aware of that. But you also forgot to mention that higher up such as the Arbiter are trying to get the Sangheili back on their feet and gain back some of their momentum after serving the Covies for quiet some time. Though, there is some hindering enemies that have strayed some of their own people into the brink of civil war…

Sangheili society lived united before they even met the Prophets and formed the Covenant.

In fact, up until Karen Travis butchered Elite politics, we were lead to believe that the Sangheili are a strong AND united race. With only a few massive states in existence on both Sangheilios and some planets colonized by Elites, but still with a joint government that existed outside of the Covenant.

Personally I think that it was completely unnecessary to bring Elites back as the villains in Halo 4. I’m fairly certain most fans would rather them just used the remainder of Covenant Loyalists, claiming that their disappearance occurred because they discovered and were dedicating 100% of remaining resources trying to enter Requiem.

It sure as hell would have made more sense, and been simpler than just saying “The Elites made their own loyalist Covenant faction called the Remnant, who LITERALLY follow the same religion, beliefs, and ideals as the loyalists but refuse to cooperate with them… Oh and also they are all brutish-mercenary-pirates now instea of elegant, honorable warriors… And despite following the ideals of the covenant religion I’ll be -Yoink!- if any of that awesome ‘mystical’ Covenant feel present in Halo 2 and 3 returns.”

> Sangheili society lived united before they even met the Prophets and formed the Covenant.
>
> In fact, up until Karen Travis butchered Elite politics, we were lead to believe that the Sangheili are a strong AND united race. With only a few massive states in existence on both Sangheilios and some planets colonized by Elites, but still with a joint government that existed outside of the Covenant.
>
> Personally I think that it was completely unnecessary to bring Elites back as the villains in Halo 4. I’m fairly certain most fans would rather them just used the remainder of Covenant Loyalists, claiming that their disappearance occurred because they discovered and were dedicating 100% of remaining resources trying to enter Requiem.
>
> It sure as hell would have made more sense, and been simpler than just saying “The Elites made their own loyalist Covenant faction called the Remnant, who LITERALLY follow the same religion, beliefs, and ideals as the loyalists but refuse to cooperate with them… Oh and also they are all brutish-mercenary-pirates now instea of elegant, honorable warriors… And despite following the ideals of the covenant religion I’ll be -Yoink!- if any of that awesome ‘mystical’ Covenant feel present in Halo 2 and 3 returns.”

I think how they brought them back as villains had potential but I think 343 botched it. I’m more interested in what the prophets are doing because as I’ve pointed out before the destruction of the Ark doesn’t necessarily disprove their religion and the appearance of the Didact seemingly proves it to be true. I think it would be interesting to see how the existence of Jul’s, the loyalist, and Arbiters’s plays out and it is not to late for some good stuff.

> I think how they brought them back as villains had potential but I think 343 botched it. I’m more interested in what the prophets are doing because as I’ve pointed out before the destruction of the Ark doesn’t necessarily disprove their religion and the appearance of the Didact seemingly proves it to be true. I think it would be interesting to see how the existence of Jul’s, the loyalist, and Arbiters’s plays out and it is not to late for some good stuff.

There was only 1000 Prophets left by the time the Human-Covenant War was over. They have either died off, or simply just disappeared. And just by how they run their society, they barely ever try to re-populate their own species due to religion so pretty much your ideal is out of the question.

> > I think how they brought them back as villains had potential but I think 343 botched it. I’m more interested in what the prophets are doing because as I’ve pointed out before the destruction of the Ark doesn’t necessarily disprove their religion and the appearance of the Didact seemingly proves it to be true. I think it would be interesting to see how the existence of Jul’s, the loyalist, and Arbiters’s plays out and it is not to late for some good stuff.
>
> There was only 1000 Prophets left by the time the Human-Covenant War was over. They have either died off, or simply just disappeared. And just by how they run their society, they barely ever try to re-populate their own species due to religion so pretty much your ideal is out of the question.

'‘The lifespan of a Prophet appears to be extensive, largely through the development of technologies to increase longevity. Such a process began in about 1552, which was one thousand years before the events of Halo 3. The San ‘Shyuum have put considerable effort into the increase of lifespan of their own species, as more than a quarter of their population are now super-bicentenarians.’’
-Quoted & edited from Halo Wiki

Given this fact,I don’t see why the San Shyuum could not have survived.Honestly,I think it’d be phenomenal if they returned in Halo Xbox One.With the original Covenant faction with their beautiful traditional armour sets,that’d be a sight to behold.Though their reappearance in the trilogy is certainly possible,I find it unlikely that their return will be in the next Halo.343i have stated that Halo 5 is a future project,and that Halo Xbox One will not be a Halo 5.According to much speculation from people like Halo Follower on youtube,Halo Xbox One probably takes place during Spartan Ops,6 months after the events of Halo 4,except from a different perspective.We heard nothing of the San Shyuum in Spartan Ops,so their return may not be likely.However,there’s still that glimmer of hope left in me.

Now, we just have to wait for an answer…few years ago
Now,…still waiting, 343, please tell us our patience has not gone to wast. We have very little left, tell us our efforts have not been lost in vain. 343 ,please bring back our elites!!!

This is my final verdict on the issue of Elites in multiplayer in Halo 5.

343i has blatantly ignored this thread, and by extension, the entire Elite community, one that thrived between 2004 and 2011, and is now barely getting by.

It is little more than an insult. And the best way to react to an insult, is to pay it back in kind.

If Elites are not playable in Halo 5’s multiplayer matchmaking, by which I mean ENTIRELY available by player choice. I will REFUSE to purchase the game, or any other Halo related merchandise. From this moment on, the day I give 343i money, is the day they create a product I am happy with.

In the meantime I will still play Halo 3, and the occasional Halo Reach or 4, simply because I continue to own those games. And I will CERTAINLY be playing Destiny. But this is my ultimatum to 343i, Elites, or no monetary income from myself, and anyone else who reads this and has the WILL, and the RESOLVE to follow my lead.