Sangheili (Elites) In New Trilogy Matchmaking (Part 1)

Just to clarify a point about the Prophets, only around 1000 of them are believed to be alive post-Halo 3 and those who did have an active role in continued hostilities against the Sangheili have since suddenly vanished, throwing their Brute cohorts in disarray. So while the effects of their rule will continue to be felt, I have my doubts we’ll see them again.

Though the Precursors are assumed dead,it’d be nice to see how Halo 5’s plot functions if they were to be brought in.They may have secretly massed entire armies and could have influenced some groups such as rogue Covenant forces and the Prophets which guide them.

Please bring back Elites to Halo 5. We need them for action machinimas.

Has anyone ever thought about a Covenant character with tattoos? Not just Elites but any of the alien species in Halo even Forerunners.

How is it that we’re the only ones that invented them? The closest thing we’ve seen is Sangheili singeing their flesh and it’s not something that any Sangheili particularly wants.

Just look at the Storm’s Elite armor. There’s no armor along the arms. That’s just begging for some ink.

And Jul would look great with some Forerunner Tattoos of the Didact symbol.

> Has anyone ever thought about a Covenant character with tattoos? Not just Elites but any of the alien species in Halo even Forerunners.
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> How is it that we’re the only ones that invented them? The closest thing we’ve seen is Sangheili singeing their flesh and it’s not something that any Sangheili particularly wants.
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> Just look at the Storm’s Elite armor. There’s no armor along the arms. That’s just begging for some ink.
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> And Jul would look great with some Forerunner Tattoos of the Didact symbol.

Maybe they could have glowing orange ink and simple non-glowing orange ink. The ink in game could be randomized for each Sangheili, maybe representing personal stories tied with their allegiance.

> Please bring back Elites to Halo 5. We need them for action machinimas.

Custom games and forge YES 100% theirs no reason not 2 but for MM/MP No
Sorry that’s just how i feel

> > Please bring back Elites to Halo 5. We need them for action machinimas.
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> Custom games and forge YES 100% theirs no reason not 2 but for MM/MP No
> Sorry that’s just how i feel

That’s fair, but why exclude them from MM?

> > Has anyone ever thought about a Covenant character with tattoos? Not just Elites but any of the alien species in Halo even Forerunners.
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> > How is it that we’re the only ones that invented them? The closest thing we’ve seen is Sangheili singeing their flesh and it’s not something that any Sangheili particularly wants.
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> > Just look at the Storm’s Elite armor. There’s no armor along the arms. That’s just begging for some ink.
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> > And Jul would look great with some Forerunner Tattoos of the Didact symbol.
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> Maybe they could have glowing orange ink and simple non-glowing orange ink. The ink in game could be randomized for each Sangheili, maybe representing personal stories tied with their allegiance.

If they were to have symbols tied to their allegiance,I believe their military doctrine would have either embossed or engraved them onto the armour.Though we do not see emblems on Sangheili in Reach,Jul 'Mdama’s armour as we have seen in Spartan Ops cutscenes that he has the ‘Ranked Up’ emblem on his chest piece,and is unique to his armour.I hence believe that having any sort,way or form of an emblem to denounce allegiance will be reserved higher up the military doctrine ranks.

What would be nice is that Sangheili fulfilling special roles such as Zealots and those exclusive ones performing specialized tasks in Halo 5 were to have personalized emblems to show their prowess.

> > > > I did come up with a general idea for elites in Halo 5, and seeing as people have been doing this for a while now, I’m sure someone already came up with this. But to hell with it, I’m posting this anyways.
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> > > > If there’s elites in the game in two seperate factions (Those loyal to Thel/Arbiter, those loyal to Jul/Remnant), they should have extremelly different armor kits.
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> > > > Elites loyal to Arbiter-These guys wear more intelligently designed combat gear. Almost all variants are built off of armor similar in design to the Assault Harness, to show an increasing anti-Covenant focus. Thse are less ornamental than the classic elite armors, and the NPC’s wearing this armor follow a slightly different ranking system than the Remnant Faction. Some notes include; A variant of Assault that lacks the mandible guards, an upgraded form of the Halo 3 Ascetic armor, Pouches on the armor, and more solid/angular designs.
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> > > > Elites loyal to Remnant-Wearing more ornamental armor than those loyal to the Arbiter, these elites are more religiously driven. Like the Prometheans, they have hardlight shielding showing rank (By the shape and of the hardlight), as well as Didact’s hand Symbols adorning thier armor. With the exception of the newer format of the Zealot class (Stealthy), they also glow more. They have stronger shielding due to the hardlight on the armor, and also contact with the Prometheans.
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> > > > If both faction’s armors would be available in MP, the Covenant Remnant armors would be lacking the Didact’s Hand emblems, as well as having the Hardlight shields be more like holograms, that change depending on secondary color choice.
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> > > If the Prophets return,we may see another faction loyal to the Prophets enter the battlefield.The original Covenant worshipped the Forerunners.Though the Didact is one,he was betrayed by his fellow brethren,hence leading the faction loyal to the Prophets to believe he is in a way a heretic.
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> > Or there could be a faction led by a prophet that worships Precursors.
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> This is definitely a possibility. They could take the Didact’s downfall by humanities hands as weakness on his part and learning of these immensely powerful Precursors could make this new group think they are the true Gods.

A way they could do this is the prophet could claim the Forerunners were a test to see if the Covenant would figure it out and get one step closer to godhood. Or a war of the gods direction could be taken similar to the Greek gods versus Titans or similar to the Christian god versus the devil.

> > Please bring back Elites to Halo 5. We need them for action machinimas.
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> Custom games and forge YES 100% theirs no reason not 2 but for MM/MP No
> Sorry that’s just how i feel

So your saying you want the multiplayer to remain full of Spartans and not have any variety of different kinds of races and such to be in it.

About having to remove Elites from MM because they’re not completely equal to Spartans.

Is that really a problem anymore? With the addition of custom load outs is equality absolutely essential anymore?

Now I’m not saying that Custom load outs didn’t come with it’s issues but I can only imagine that There are plenty of Elite players that would rather use a Carbine over a BR that just looks hideous when held by an Elite.

So as an Elite player do any of you guys think equality is essential?

Its not just the aesthetic aspect of holding a Battle Rifle for a Sangheili,but the technical aspect of the weapon’s nature.The Battle Rifle is meant as a 4 burst kill weapon,and is the load out weapon which requires the least burst/shots to kill the enemy.The Carbine is meant as a quick firing platform to take down enemies quickly.Seasoned players like myself prefer it due to the fact that constant shifting of aim is required.Its also capable of killing Spartans faster than the Battle Rifle if all shots hit home due to its faster firing rate.

And yes,I believe there is a trick of defeating the Battle Rifle’s overpowered nature in closer quarters.Since it shoots 3 shot bursts,I believe moving laterally will make less rounds hit you.

> Its not just the aesthetic aspect of holding a Battle Rifle for a Sangheili,but the technical aspect of the weapon’s nature.The Battle Rifle is meant as a 4 burst kill weapon,and is the load out weapon which requires the least burst/shots to kill the enemy.The Carbine is meant as a quick firing platform to take down enemies quickly.Seasoned players like myself prefer it due to the fact that constant shifting of aim is required.<mark>Its also capable of killing Spartans faster than the Battle Rifle if all shots hit home due to its faster firing rate.</mark>
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> And yes,I believe there is a trick of defeating the Battle Rifle’s overpowered nature in closer quarters.Since it shoots 3 shot bursts,I believe moving laterally will make less rounds hit you.

Yeah, no it isn’t. In H4 it’s killtime is slower than the BR’s. Being a “seasoned player” has nothing to do with it. The choice between BR & CC comes down to preference of the user, really nothing more.

Also, the BR’s spread isn’t significant enough to create any major effect in CQC. Even though I haven’t played much H4 post tuning, I’m pretty sure the BR isn’t OP.

> Its not just the aesthetic aspect of holding a Battle Rifle for a Sangheili,but the technical aspect of the weapon’s nature.The Battle Rifle is meant as a 4 burst kill weapon,and is the load out weapon which requires the least burst/shots to kill the enemy.The Carbine is meant as a quick firing platform to take down enemies quickly.Seasoned players like myself prefer it due to the fact that constant shifting of aim is required.Its also capable of killing Spartans faster than the Battle Rifle if all shots hit home due to its faster firing rate.
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> And yes,I believe there is a trick of defeating the Battle Rifle’s overpowered nature in closer quarters.Since it shoots 3 shot bursts,I believe moving laterally will make less rounds hit you.

What? Yeah I get that the weapons are different. The BR looking ugly in an Elites hand wasn’t the real point.

What I’m asking you is if equality is still a must for Halo games. People keep saying that everything must be equal. I’m just wondering what Elite players think of that considering that they’ve never been completely equal.

And do like the options that custom load outs present?

> What? Yeah I get that the weapons are different. The BR looking ugly in an Elites hand wasn’t the real point.
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> What I’m asking you is if equality is still a must for Halo games. People keep saying that everything must be equal. I’m just wondering what Elite players think of that considering that they’ve never been completely equal.
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> And do like the options that custom load outs present?

Equality has always been a must since the days of Halo Reach. There never has been a much better equality since the days of Halo 2. Ever since then, it’s been going downhill and such. As for custom load outs, take out the Plasma grenades and the Plasma Pistol as a standard secondary weapon pick and perhaps it wouldn’t be a complain fest in Halo 4.

I miss being able to play as elites, I’d love that feature in Halo 5.

> > Its not just the aesthetic aspect of holding a Battle Rifle for a Sangheili,but the technical aspect of the weapon’s nature.The Battle Rifle is meant as a 4 burst kill weapon,and is the load out weapon which requires the least burst/shots to kill the enemy.The Carbine is meant as a quick firing platform to take down enemies quickly.Seasoned players like myself prefer it due to the fact that constant shifting of aim is required.<mark>Its also capable of killing Spartans faster than the Battle Rifle if all shots hit home due to its faster firing rate.</mark>
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> > And yes,I believe there is a trick of defeating the Battle Rifle’s overpowered nature in closer quarters.Since it shoots 3 shot bursts,I believe moving laterally will make less rounds hit you.
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> Yeah, no it isn’t. In H4 it’s killtime is slower than the BR’s. Being a “seasoned player” has nothing to do with it. The choice between BR & CC comes down to preference of the user, really nothing more.
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> Also, the BR’s spread isn’t significant enough to create any major effect in CQC. Even though I haven’t played much H4 post tuning, I’m pretty sure the BR isn’t OP.

It does kill faster as its ROF is much higher,the BR needs a short pause between its bursts.

> > > Its not just the aesthetic aspect of holding a Battle Rifle for a Sangheili,but the technical aspect of the weapon’s nature.The Battle Rifle is meant as a 4 burst kill weapon,and is the load out weapon which requires the least burst/shots to kill the enemy.The Carbine is meant as a quick firing platform to take down enemies quickly.Seasoned players like myself prefer it due to the fact that constant shifting of aim is required.<mark>Its also capable of killing Spartans faster than the Battle Rifle if all shots hit home due to its faster firing rate.</mark>
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> > > And yes,I believe there is a trick of defeating the Battle Rifle’s overpowered nature in closer quarters.Since it shoots 3 shot bursts,I believe moving laterally will make less rounds hit you.
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> > Yeah, no it isn’t. In H4 it’s killtime is slower than the BR’s. Being a “seasoned player” has nothing to do with it. The choice between BR & CC comes down to preference of the user, really nothing more.
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> > Also, the BR’s spread isn’t significant enough to create any major effect in CQC. Even though I haven’t played much H4 post tuning, I’m pretty sure the BR isn’t OP.
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> It does kill faster as its ROF is much higher,the BR needs a short pause between its bursts.

Firing rate isn’t the only factor. There’s also damage-per-shot.

Quick question,did anyone of you appreciate the exposed arms of the Sangheili in Halo 4 only covered by the skin tight suit.I’d prefer them with arm guards like in all other Halos before it.

And does anyone know here a player which goes by the gamer tag of ORI THE PROD1GY.

> Quick question,did anyone of you appreciate the exposed arms of the Sangheili in Halo 4 only covered by the skin tight suit.I’d prefer them with arm guards like in all other Halos before it.
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> And does anyone know here a player which goes by the gamer tag of ORI THE PROD1GY.

The lack of armor made the arms look a bit out of place. Though the fact that these arms belonged to storm Sangheili makes more sense canon wise since they aren’t the original covenant who could probably mass produce armor and weaponry by using other species.