i’ve been a fan of elites since HALO:CE and i was disappointed with Reach as you didn’t really get to play as them or customise them. At least let us play as them in custom game modes and forge.
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Any ideas for new covenant weapons?
> Any ideas for new covenant weapons?
I don’t mind having something new, but i’d love for the Carbine to return!
Maybe some combined Human-Sangheili weapons, though since each Covenant weapon was designed to be the opposite and equal of a certain human weapon (i.e. the Plasma Rifle and the Assault Rifle) it wouldn’t have much of an impact.
One thing I would like to see is Covenant weapons that don’t have a human counterpart and vise-verse. I mean, it’s pretty convenient how they all line up, especially considering that Human weapons and Covenant weapons were developed in completely different, alien cultures.
343 did say that there would be new weapons if I remember, I just hope the needler stays.
11.200 veiws…not bad
> 11.200 veiws…not bad
We really want those dinos!
> Maybe some combined Human-Sangheili weapons, though since each Covenant weapon was designed to be the opposite and equal of a certain human weapon (i.e. the Plasma Rifle and the Assault Rifle) it wouldn’t have much of an impact.
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> One thing I would like to see is Covenant weapons that don’t have a human counterpart and vise-verse. I mean, it’s pretty convenient how they all line up, especially considering that Human weapons and Covenant weapons were developed in completely different, alien cultures.
Well, it makes sense for them to develop something for each task. But I wish they made them more different.
Halo CE had it pretty good. The Plasma Pistol and Needler were nothing like the Magnum. and the Plasma Rifle and AR, though similar, still played completely different from one another, the Plasma Rifle being more powerful, and having stun, but requiring you to lead shots, the AR being alot less accurate with a higher rate of fire, requiring controlled bursts. The Sword and Shotgun are different for obvious reasons, and the Fuel Rod vs Rocket Launcher was basically like Wraith vs Scorpion, one was a Mortar, the other was a straight-firing death cannon.
Vehicles are all really well done though. With the exception of the Spectre and Prowler, which were both attemts at ripping off the Warthog.
I like some of the changes in Reach though, the Plasma Repeater and NR are almost exactly the same as the DMR and AR sure. But the Plasma Launcher vs Spartan Laser, Focus Rifle vs Sniper Rifle etc. Are really nice differences.
> > Maybe some combined Human-Sangheili weapons, though since each Covenant weapon was designed to be the opposite and equal of a certain human weapon (i.e. the Plasma Rifle and the Assault Rifle) it wouldn’t have much of an impact.
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> > One thing I would like to see is Covenant weapons that don’t have a human counterpart and vise-verse. I mean, it’s pretty convenient how they all line up, especially considering that Human weapons and Covenant weapons were developed in completely different, alien cultures.
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> Well, it makes sense for them to develop something for each task. But I wish they made them more different.
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> Halo CE had it pretty good. The Plasma Pistol and Needler were nothing like the Magnum. and the Plasma Rifle and AR, though similar, still played completely different from one another, the Plasma Rifle being more powerful, and having stun, but requiring you to lead shots, the AR being alot less accurate with a higher rate of fire, requiring controlled bursts. The Sword and Shotgun are different for obvious reasons, and the Fuel Rod vs Rocket Launcher was basically like Wraith vs Scorpion, one was a Mortar, the other was a straight-firing death cannon.
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> Vehicles are all really well done though. With the exception of the Spectre and Prowler, which were both attemts at ripping off the Warthog.
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> I like some of the changes in Reach though, the Plasma Repeater and NR are almost exactly the same as the DMR and AR sure. But the Plasma Launcher vs Spartan Laser, Focus Rifle vs Sniper Rifle etc. Are really nice differences.
Nope the AR and plasma repeater aren’t the same, plasma repeater is terrible, they shouldn’t have put it in in my opinion because the plasma rifle is cooler and better.
> > > Maybe some combined Human-Sangheili weapons, though since each Covenant weapon was designed to be the opposite and equal of a certain human weapon (i.e. the Plasma Rifle and the Assault Rifle) it wouldn’t have much of an impact.
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> > > One thing I would like to see is Covenant weapons that don’t have a human counterpart and vise-verse. I mean, it’s pretty convenient how they all line up, especially considering that Human weapons and Covenant weapons were developed in completely different, alien cultures.
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> > Well, it makes sense for them to develop something for each task. But I wish they made them more different.
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> > Halo CE had it pretty good. The Plasma Pistol and Needler were nothing like the Magnum. and the Plasma Rifle and AR, though similar, still played completely different from one another, the Plasma Rifle being more powerful, and having stun, but requiring you to lead shots, the AR being alot less accurate with a higher rate of fire, requiring controlled bursts. The Sword and Shotgun are different for obvious reasons, and the Fuel Rod vs Rocket Launcher was basically like Wraith vs Scorpion, one was a Mortar, the other was a straight-firing death cannon.
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> > Vehicles are all really well done though. With the exception of the Spectre and Prowler, which were both attemts at ripping off the Warthog.
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> > I like some of the changes in Reach though, the Plasma Repeater and NR are almost exactly the same as the DMR and AR sure. But the Plasma Launcher vs Spartan Laser, Focus Rifle vs Sniper Rifle etc. Are really nice differences.
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> Nope the AR and plasma repeater aren’t the same, plasma repeater is terrible, they shouldn’t have put it in in my opinion because the plasma rifle is cooler and better.
They are the same. The only difference is the reload mechanism, and a little bit about the fire rate.
They both do the exact same shot-for-shot damage to shields and health. So the Plasma Repeater doesn’t even behave like a Plasma Weapon to begin with. The Plasma Repeater opens up with a slightly higher rate of fire than the AR, but slows down so that their kill time is almost identical (Plasma Repeater has a very subtle advantage if every single shot hits. The only REAL difference is the reload, the Plasma Repeater becomes almost useless after 32 shots, the AR is forced to reload no matter what you do.
In the end, though, they have the exact same gameplay value, identical forms of skill and strategies are used for both weapons, so they are the same.
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> Nope the AR and plasma repeater aren’t the same, plasma repeater is terrible, they shouldn’t have put it in in my opinion because the plasma rifle is cooler and better.
The only reason the Plasma Repeater appeared to be garbage was because it had a wider spread then the AR, and in a Spartan Vs. Elite fight the less spread gun versus the bigger target usually win’s.
Well if they bring the BR and DMR back, we better get the Carbine and NR (if not the NR, we better get the Carbine anyways!). It would be cool to see diversity in Covenant weapons like they’re doing with UNSC weaponry. And maybe the Focus and Beam Rifles together.
Also like to see both the Revenant and Spectre return.
Sangheili needs moar vehicles and weapons, to counter the UNSC.
> Well if they bring the BR and DMR back, we better get the Carbine and NR (if not the NR, we better get the Carbine anyways!). It would be cool to see diversity in Covenant weapons like they’re doing with UNSC weaponry. And maybe the Focus and Beam Rifles together.
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> Also like to see both the Revenant and Spectre return.
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> Sangheili needs moar vehicles and weapons, to counter the UNSC.
I want the Phantom, Seraph, Scarab, Locust, Vampire, and Phantom gunboat (That’d be so much fun in infection) And carbine and needle-rifle.
And I think the Elites need something to counter the Spartan 4s… Begins day dreaming
> > Well if they bring the BR and DMR back, we better get the Carbine and NR (if not the NR, we better get the Carbine anyways!). It would be cool to see diversity in Covenant weapons like they’re doing with UNSC weaponry. And maybe the Focus and Beam Rifles together.
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> > Also like to see both the Revenant and Spectre return.
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> > Sangheili needs moar vehicles and weapons, to counter the UNSC.
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> I want the Phantom, Seraph, Scarab, Locust, Vampire, and Phantom gunboat (That’d be so much fun in infection) And carbine and needle-rifle.
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> And I think the Elites need something to counter the Spartan 4s… Begins day dreaming
More vehicles and unique vehicles would be nice, same goes for weapons (unique). Covenant vehicles could really use some variety and maybe some better ones, ghost and banshee is good, wraith not so much. Revenant is ok but far from good, on the other hand it takes just one man to handle it…
More power to the Wort wort wort community 
> > > Well if they bring the BR and DMR back, we better get the Carbine and NR (if not the NR, we better get the Carbine anyways!). It would be cool to see diversity in Covenant weapons like they’re doing with UNSC weaponry. And maybe the Focus and Beam Rifles together.
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> > > Also like to see both the Revenant and Spectre return.
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> > > Sangheili needs moar vehicles and weapons, to counter the UNSC.
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> > I want the Phantom, Seraph, Scarab, Locust, Vampire, and Phantom gunboat (That’d be so much fun in infection) And carbine and needle-rifle.
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> > And I think the Elites need something to counter the Spartan 4s… Begins day dreaming
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> More vehicles and unique vehicles would be nice, same goes for weapons (unique). Covenant vehicles could really use some variety and maybe some better ones, ghost and banshee is good, wraith not so much. Revenant is ok but far from good, on the other hand it takes just one man to handle it…
> More power to the Wort wort wort community
Wort Wort to that!
Oh, if we get mentioned in the weekly bulletin will this happen back on Sanghelios?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJG7SB9PAZk&feature=channel
jesus. with the amount of love this forumn is getting, 343 would have to be completely brain dead to ignore us.
I think we will have to wait a while, but I think 343i will eventually address the issue. The Elites need some love!
> Should there be Elites in Halo 4 Multiplayer?
Yes
> <em>Could</em> There Be Elites in Halo 4 Multiplayer?
Yes
> Do you Want Elites in Halo 4 Multiplayer?
Yes,Yes and Yes.
A Thousand Times Yes.
