Sangheili (Elites) In New Trilogy Matchmaking (Part 1)

so anyone else know what we should do make Elites playable,

how about showing the players emblem on their shoulder.

> > > > > Captain Lasky recognizes that his forces are beginning to thin out too much. In a strategic move he invites Thel to move a ship to Requiem to help with fighting the enemy forces. Lasky promises Thel that they will share technological advances after the battle, but under the circumstance that Thel makes a treaty with Earth in which Thel and the Humans begin the new Covenant.
> > > >
> > > > Nice idea, and it would be plausible before we learned of the Mantle, and of Humanity’s “destiny” as a species. They won’t create a new Covenant, but I can see the UNSC requesting help. :smiley:
> > > >
> > > > A way your idea could be put into practise could be; (speculating from the trailer for Ep 10 of SpOps) Jul successfully reawakens (or finds) the Didact after his ordeal in the campaign. Lasky and the UNSC, after countless fruitless battles against his forces, and after they swallow their pride, (ONI allowing, of course) requests the help of Sanghelios. Their “alliance” still holding some weight with the forces of both peoples. Sanghelios, specifically Thel’s faction, sends help, returning the favour (or in remembrance) of Infinity’s assistance in the closing stages of the Sangheili Civil War.
> > > >
> > > > Plausible? Perhaps. Idealistic? Yes. I’d love to see this happen, but I can’t see it, really. :stuck_out_tongue:
> > >
> > > Thanks! The Didact was destroyed in the main campaign, but seen throughout the terminal videos he was conducting tests on himself to be immune to the flood. That must have been his attempt at becoming part of the digital world, and therefore eternal. Though Jul may have activated something else with the switch in the EP. 10 trailer it may have also brought the Didact back in some way, which would put the Infinity into a significant enough threat to ask for Thel’s assistance. Thel would also be forced to help since he would be destroyed by the didact since he and his followers would not bow to the Didact. Therefore both sides would be forced to act upon a truce to combat the revived massive threat.
> >
> > He’s not dead. I’m sure of that. This is the first of a new trilogy, to kill off the main villain would be a bit strange. They left it open for some debate though, and I’ve seen quite a few theories about his survival. Such as his fall into the “Slipspace event” below the Composer, which could have brought him elsewhere (His latest mutation made him immune to the Composer, IIRC, or at least stopped the Composer from working on his form :P). So I guess it’s up for debate. :smiley:
> >
> > The Didact’s return would definitely call for Humanity calling fro help from other species, but I can’t see the UNSC swallowing their pride, nor can I see 343 wanting to have another species being “saviours”, really. :confused:
> >
> > For me, the best (or most idealistic) way for the Reclaimer Trilogy to end would be in an ME3-type way (not the ending though xD). All the known species work together to fight the Didact, or, if they gain a larger role at a later date, the Precursors, and perhaps their Flood. D:
>
> is the Didact dead? well Yes and No
>
> Yes: the body is dead,
>
> No: the mind is somewhere else now.
>
> I do think however that Elites will probably get a call to help them.
> by the way did anyone notice this next epiosde they are trying to leave Requiem

“Exodus”. Yes, they’re leaving. I don’t know whether that’s a good or a bad thing. o.o

But it isn’t really confirmed whether his body was destroyed either. Being hit by a Pulse Grenade would be nothing, compared to surviving two direct hits from a Binary Rifle, but would have been disorientating enough to knock him off the Light Bridge. And falling into Slipspace isn’t really the most final thing anyway. When it comes to Forerunner technology, I live by this; Don’t underestimate it. His Combat Skin could have allowed for short-range slipspace travel (after entering it, like one of those modified SOEIVs), this was hypothesized by humanity after all, and he was the most powerful military leader during the War. If it travels to anywhere, it would be Requiem. As I said before, why kill off the main antagonist early in the trilogy? I’m speculating, quite a lot, but he’s not dead. I’m almost sure of it. :smiley: / D:

> so anyone else know what we should do make Elites playable,
>
> how about showing the players emblem on their shoulder.

This should have been done in Reach, though I assume it wasn’t done due to time-constraints or simply because the models (I assume) were made for campaign first, multi-player later. It should be done for newer Sangheili models, no doubt.

Oh, and btw; Destiny.

If the Didact does come back he is probably going to try to bring a new enemy to the field because of his earlier defeat. He might even try to bring back the Flood and seed it on Earth. Then test the effectiveness of his knights to combat the flood and the rest of the Humans on Earth. Humanity might be forced to ask for help then from Thel so they can survive since wihtout the homeplanet the colonies would seperate into different factions.

The Emblem should be able to be placed anywhere, like right on the helmet. Where it could look like war paint on an Elites bare face, or just be painted over a visor. Maybe we could have really indept customization by being able to take pieces of armor apart and grouping them together into something new to wear. It would be helped with my previous statement (a bit earlier in this thread) that perhaps an “armor bench” can be used. The players could create simple shapes combine them in a forge environment where the armor piece is increased in size, and the shapes can be put together to form various pieces that can then be put together and turned into a helmet, etc. We could also paint a skin by drawing lines over the armor by using a button or something while in forge mode. A 3d image of what the character model would look like would be nearby and updated by switching out of forge mode (like lighting updating). The story would be companies that are trying to make new armor pieces and allowing certain spartans in their respective field to test those pieces.

Also I’d love to see a map where mini bases are used. The map sets could include any following combinations of vehicles: Mammoths, Scarabs, Vultures, and Liches. Just imagine a capture the flag game where you would be a bunch of Elites in a Lich being invaded by a mammoth or two. Invasion could come back if you think about it (Spartans invading Remnant forces, or Remnant forces attacking Spartans). Could be kinda like firefight where the Remnant forces can be only playable Elites, but other covenant forces can be deployed as AI. So if you get "this many kills you can go at a terminal and buy two hunters, or with enough kills you can buy a vehicle like a phantom. Same would go for the Spartans.

That’s just another way to implement Elites into at least one gametype.

> > > > > > Captain Lasky recognizes that his forces are beginning to thin out too much. In a strategic move he invites Thel to move a ship to Requiem to help with fighting the enemy forces. Lasky promises Thel that they will share technological advances after the battle, but under the circumstance that Thel makes a treaty with Earth in which Thel and the Humans begin the new Covenant.
> > > > >
> > > > > Nice idea, and it would be plausible before we learned of the Mantle, and of Humanity’s “destiny” as a species. They won’t create a new Covenant, but I can see the UNSC requesting help. :smiley:
> > > > >
> > > > > A way your idea could be put into practise could be; (speculating from the trailer for Ep 10 of SpOps) Jul successfully reawakens (or finds) the Didact after his ordeal in the campaign. Lasky and the UNSC, after countless fruitless battles against his forces, and after they swallow their pride, (ONI allowing, of course) requests the help of Sanghelios. Their “alliance” still holding some weight with the forces of both peoples. Sanghelios, specifically Thel’s faction, sends help, returning the favour (or in remembrance) of Infinity’s assistance in the closing stages of the Sangheili Civil War.
> > > > >
> > > > > Plausible? Perhaps. Idealistic? Yes. I’d love to see this happen, but I can’t see it, really. :stuck_out_tongue:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks! The Didact was destroyed in the main campaign, but seen throughout the terminal videos he was conducting tests on himself to be immune to the flood. That must have been his attempt at becoming part of the digital world, and therefore eternal. Though Jul may have activated something else with the switch in the EP. 10 trailer it may have also brought the Didact back in some way, which would put the Infinity into a significant enough threat to ask for Thel’s assistance. Thel would also be forced to help since he would be destroyed by the didact since he and his followers would not bow to the Didact. Therefore both sides would be forced to act upon a truce to combat the revived massive threat.
> > >
> > > He’s not dead. I’m sure of that. This is the first of a new trilogy, to kill off the main villain would be a bit strange. They left it open for some debate though, and I’ve seen quite a few theories about his survival. Such as his fall into the “Slipspace event” below the Composer, which could have brought him elsewhere (His latest mutation made him immune to the Composer, IIRC, or at least stopped the Composer from working on his form :P). So I guess it’s up for debate. :smiley:
> > >
> > > The Didact’s return would definitely call for Humanity calling fro help from other species, but I can’t see the UNSC swallowing their pride, nor can I see 343 wanting to have another species being “saviours”, really. :confused:
> > >
> > > For me, the best (or most idealistic) way for the Reclaimer Trilogy to end would be in an ME3-type way (not the ending though xD). All the known species work together to fight the Didact, or, if they gain a larger role at a later date, the Precursors, and perhaps their Flood. D:
> >
> > is the Didact dead? well Yes and No
> >
> > Yes: the body is dead,
> >
> > No: the mind is somewhere else now.
> >
> > I do think however that Elites will probably get a call to help them.
> > by the way did anyone notice this next epiosde they are trying to leave Requiem
>
> “Exodus”. Yes, they’re leaving. I don’t know whether that’s a good or a bad thing. o.o
>
> But it isn’t really confirmed whether his body was destroyed either. Being hit by a Pulse Grenade would be nothing, compared to surviving two direct hits from a Binary Rifle, but would have been disorientating enough to knock him off the Light Bridge. And falling into Slipspace isn’t really the most final thing anyway. When it comes to Forerunner technology, I live by this; Don’t underestimate it. His Combat Skin could have allowed for short-range slipspace travel (after entering it, like one of those modified SOEIVs), this was hypothesized by humanity after all, and he was the most powerful military leader during the War. If it travels to anywhere, it would be Requiem. As I said before, why kill off the main antagonist early in the trilogy? I’m speculating, quite a lot, but he’s not dead. I’m almost sure of it. :smiley: / D:
>
>
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> > so anyone else know what we should do make Elites playable,
> >
> > how about showing the players emblem on their shoulder.
>
> This should have been done in Reach, though I assume it wasn’t done due to time-constraints or simply because the models (I assume) were made for campaign first, multi-player later. It should be done for newer Sangheili models, no doubt.
>
> Oh, and btw; Destiny.

well to answer your first one, thats intresting witht he diadact but I herd somehwere the flood might return, wich means in every trilogy the flood is the ulitmate villan.

So Infinity just left Requiem, Jul is alive with a fleet, and Halsey wants revenge on the UNSC for trying to kill her. Halsey is going to give Jul a very powerful advantage. So therefore the UNSC might request help from Thel now to track down Jul as soon as possible before Halsey helps him track down powerful Forerunner weapons, etc. It would help both the UNSC and Thel’s forces from being wiped out by an advanced fleet.

I’m not too keen on Dr. Hasley being all “revenge” like.

I kept debating myself on where this was all going with Jul and the UNSC.

Here’s the thing with the device the librarian gave to Halsey.

It can only benefit humanity, not the Sangheili.

Why you ask? Its because these are on every covenant ship, making the other device completely useless.

Anyways I hope in halo 5 they have two different sets of specializations for elites and spartans, such as spartans getting wetworks whereas elites getting zealot, and so on.

And about Invasion mode, I made a post a few months back about Invasion 2.0, return to purple elites vs green spartans, bigger maps, pilotable dropships (and now siegeworks vehicles like the lich and mamoth, and throw in some dominion mode esque bases and turrets and such. I think that would be awesome hehe…

Destiny is announced!!! Hopefully 343 brings it for the next Halo, I really would like to remain a fan of Halo but 343 cannot just coast on the name of Halo because there will be competition!

With Destiny announced 343 has to bring it now.

As someone who sarcastically and perhaps truthfully stated that

“Bungie the biggest threat to 343I since 343I”

That aside, I wonder how things will go now with Jul having a fleet on the dark side of the moooooon and what not.

And maybe DLC elites next, that would be nice!

> Destiny is announced!!! Hopefully 343 brings it for the next Halo, I really would like to remain a fan of Halo but 343 cannot just coast on the name of Halo because there will be competition!

as anyone ever looked at what type of game destiney is, its not an FPS.

> I’m not too keen on Dr. Hasley being all “revenge” like.
>
> I kept debating myself on where this was all going with Jul and the UNSC.

I admit Iam not hapopy with Helsy getting angrey. I almost cried again. seeing her loosing an arm like that, I know Im being over dramatic there. but come on, this is the woman who created Cheif.

anyway Specializations can work, and maybe one for Asetics to.

> as anyone ever looked at what type of game destiney is, its not an FPS.

Destiny is as far as I can see, an MMOFPS, but it definitely has guns, first person action, with aliens.

> > as anyone ever looked at what type of game destiney is, its not an FPS.
>
> Destiny is as far as I can see, an MMOFPS, but it definitely has guns, first person action, with aliens.

It does give Bungie a one-up before they’ve even begun though. It’s the first console MMO of this generation and it is a one off payment MMO which there is only one other which is competitive on the market. The only thing that looks like it could be similar on consoles is Borderlands but that’s just too damn awesome.

> Here’s the thing with the device the librarian gave to Halsey.
>
> It can only benefit humanity, not the Sangheili.
>
> Why you ask? Its because these are on every covenant ship, making the other device completely useless.
>
>
> Anyways I hope in halo 5 they have two different sets of specializations for elites and spartans, such as spartans getting wetworks whereas elites getting zealot, and so on.
>
> And about Invasion mode, I made a post a few months back about Invasion 2.0, return to purple elites vs green spartans, bigger maps, pilotable dropships (and now siegeworks vehicles like the lich and mamoth, and throw in some dominion mode esque bases and turrets and such. I think that would be awesome hehe…

A Luminary isn’t exactly flawless, don’t forget. It appears to only detect Forerunner technology, rather than show where every piece in the galaxy is. The Covenant would have been much more powerful otherwise. The Key, however, would benefit the remnant in unimaginable ways… If it can be used by the Sangheili anyways. That would be a big plot point, wouldn’t it? Jul finally gets a way to gain his power, but can’t actually use it. :smiley: / D:

I’d love to have specialised specialisations (xD) and a new and improved Invasion. It would be great! :smiley:

> > as anyone ever looked at what type of game destiney is, its not an FPS.
>
> Destiny is as far as I can see, an MMOFPS, but it definitely has guns, first person action, with aliens.

I’d say it was a console MMORPGFPS. xD

Wikis have already been created for Destiny, if you guys want more info (I say that like we know anything xD). I can’t wait! :smiley:

I still haven’t tried SpOps, so I can’t give judgement just yet. Can I just ask though, should I expect more retcons? I had a chat with some people, over Halsey’s amputation, and it fails to notice that the Sangheili did have medical technology, and medics, and amputation was not the only option. It was simply a profession that was seen as dishonourable. I haven’t played it yet, so maybe you guys can give some light on this subject. :smiley:

Destiny is a MMOFPS. Incase you have not got the clear message of a small part in the vid with the person running around in First Person View o_0

Still, the game does look rather interesting. Considering you can Customize your armor, your gear, Go wherever you want, and even have chances of space battles. My class choice is likely gonna be Hunter because of Snipers and being stealthy heh.

> > Here’s the thing with the device the librarian gave to Halsey.
> >
> > It can only benefit humanity, not the Sangheili.
> >
> > Why you ask? Its because these are on every covenant ship, making the other device completely useless.
> >
> >
> > Anyways I hope in halo 5 they have two different sets of specializations for elites and spartans, such as spartans getting wetworks whereas elites getting zealot, and so on.
> >
> > And about Invasion mode, I made a post a few months back about Invasion 2.0, return to purple elites vs green spartans, bigger maps, pilotable dropships (and now siegeworks vehicles like the lich and mamoth, and throw in some dominion mode esque bases and turrets and such. I think that would be awesome hehe…
>
> A Luminary isn’t exactly flawless, don’t forget. It appears to only detect Forerunner technology, rather than show where every piece in the galaxy is. The Covenant would have been much more powerful otherwise. The Key, however, would benefit the remnant in unimaginable ways… If it can be used by the Sangheili anyways. That would be a big plot point, wouldn’t it? Jul finally gets a way to gain his power, but can’t actually use it. :smiley: / D:
>
> I’d love to have specialised specialisations (xD) and a new and improved Invasion. It would be great! :smiley:
>
>
> I still haven’t tried SpOps, so I can’t give judgement just yet. Can I just ask though, should I expect more retcons? I had a chat with some people, over Halsey’s amputation, and it fails to notice that the Sangheili did have medical technology, and medics, and amputation was not the only option. It was simply a profession that was seen as dishonourable. I haven’t played it yet, so maybe you guys can give some light on this subject. :smiley:

Well true, but the map the Librarian gave Halsey (since we don’t know exactly how it works) is probably a few billion years out of date, meaning that it too will be imperfect.

I just hope halo 5 will be better to the elites then halo 4 was…

Anyways do you guys want to make a not-so-sangheili destiny clan?

> > > Here’s the thing with the device the librarian gave to Halsey.
> > >
> > > It can only benefit humanity, not the Sangheili.
> > >
> > > Why you ask? Its because these are on every covenant ship, making the other device completely useless.
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyways I hope in halo 5 they have two different sets of specializations for elites and spartans, such as spartans getting wetworks whereas elites getting zealot, and so on.
> > >
> > > And about Invasion mode, I made a post a few months back about Invasion 2.0, return to purple elites vs green spartans, bigger maps, pilotable dropships (and now siegeworks vehicles like the lich and mamoth, and throw in some dominion mode esque bases and turrets and such. I think that would be awesome hehe…
> >
> > A Luminary isn’t exactly flawless, don’t forget. It appears to only detect Forerunner technology, rather than show where every piece in the galaxy is. The Covenant would have been much more powerful otherwise. The Key, however, would benefit the remnant in unimaginable ways… If it can be used by the Sangheili anyways. That would be a big plot point, wouldn’t it? Jul finally gets a way to gain his power, but can’t actually use it. :smiley: / D:
> >
> > I’d love to have specialised specialisations (xD) and a new and improved Invasion. It would be great! :smiley:
> >
> >
> > I still haven’t tried SpOps, so I can’t give judgement just yet. Can I just ask though, should I expect more retcons? I had a chat with some people, over Halsey’s amputation, and it fails to notice that the Sangheili did have medical technology, and medics, and amputation was not the only option. It was simply a profession that was seen as dishonourable. I haven’t played it yet, so maybe you guys can give some light on this subject. :smiley:
>
> Well true, but the map the Librarian gave Halsey (since we don’t know exactly how it works) is probably a few billion years out of date, meaning that it too will be imperfect.
>
> I just hope halo 5 will be better to the elites then halo 4 was…
>
> Anyways do you guys want to make a not-so-sangheili destiny clan?

Hmm Perhaps if Precursors invade Jul and Humans will have to work together hence uniting Humans and Covenant and perhaps Forerunners rescuing the story. If 343 played their cards right than they could create an epic story that I think Human, Covenant, and Forerunner fans could all agree on. It is one my biggest fears that they will fail to see this and do something really stupid!

> > > > Here’s the thing with the device the librarian gave to Halsey.
> > > >
> > > > It can only benefit humanity, not the Sangheili.
> > > >
> > > > Why you ask? Its because these are on every covenant ship, making the other device completely useless.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Anyways I hope in halo 5 they have two different sets of specializations for elites and spartans, such as spartans getting wetworks whereas elites getting zealot, and so on.
> > > >
> > > > And about Invasion mode, I made a post a few months back about Invasion 2.0, return to purple elites vs green spartans, bigger maps, pilotable dropships (and now siegeworks vehicles like the lich and mamoth, and throw in some dominion mode esque bases and turrets and such. I think that would be awesome hehe…
> > >
> > > A Luminary isn’t exactly flawless, don’t forget. It appears to only detect Forerunner technology, rather than show where every piece in the galaxy is. The Covenant would have been much more powerful otherwise. The Key, however, would benefit the remnant in unimaginable ways… If it can be used by the Sangheili anyways. That would be a big plot point, wouldn’t it? Jul finally gets a way to gain his power, but can’t actually use it. :smiley: / D:
> > >
> > > I’d love to have specialised specialisations (xD) and a new and improved Invasion. It would be great! :smiley:
> > >
> > >
> > > I still haven’t tried SpOps, so I can’t give judgement just yet. Can I just ask though, should I expect more retcons? I had a chat with some people, over Halsey’s amputation, and it fails to notice that the Sangheili did have medical technology, and medics, and amputation was not the only option. It was simply a profession that was seen as dishonourable. I haven’t played it yet, so maybe you guys can give some light on this subject. :smiley:
> >
> > Well true, but the map the Librarian gave Halsey (since we don’t know exactly how it works) is probably a few billion years out of date, meaning that it too will be imperfect.
> >
> > I just hope halo 5 will be better to the elites then halo 4 was…
> >
> > Anyways do you guys want to make a not-so-sangheili destiny clan?
>
> Hmm Perhaps if Precursors invade Jul and Humans will have to work together hence uniting Humans and Covenant and perhaps Forerunners rescuing the story. If 343 played their cards right than they could create an epic story that I think Human, Covenant, and Forerunner fans could all agree on. It is one my biggest fears that they will fail to see this and do something really stupid!

And yes I would be up for a Destiny Sangheili clan but I am a bit of a lone wolf when it comes to gaming. While we are on the subject I wonder if Destiny will have any cool alien playability like the Elites.

> Hmm Perhaps if Precursors invade Jul and Humans will have to work together hence uniting Humans and Covenant and perhaps Forerunners rescuing the story. If 343 played their cards right than they could create an epic story that I think Human, Covenant, and Forerunner fans could all agree on. It is one my biggest fears that they will fail to see this and do something really stupid!

Well I think actually it’d be more along the lines of the prometheans and Jul spreading the war and the Arbiter the Sangheili rallied (possibly with the other covenant races) to fight along side humanity against Jul and the forerunners.

Then elites could be in Spartan Ops, multiplayer, and even single player co op, but if they are in multiplayer (which they better -Yoinking!- be), I hope they have seperate specializations, ranks, perks, and emblems. That would be awesome.

They could just add Elites, then focus on the story behind why they are there so it becomes canon. We the community can maybe help them with that. When they begin balancing Elites then let us test them in a gametype of one whole Elite team versus one whole Spartan team. Then we can give feedback on what we like and don’t like, and they can get results on what’s happening.