> > Hey guys I know this is a little off topic, but what if Thorne is being built up to replace Master Chief! I personally don’t like this idea maybe I should make a thread about this.
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> hop to it then man, if its on your mind, get it out, make a thread.
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> > I know I said I wouldn’t, but I’m going to rant anyway. I’m getting quite good at it as of late.
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> > Jul 'Mdama. I still can’t get my head around him. Should we feel sorry for him? He is captured by Humans after finding his home was under threat of Human intervention, and is then tested upon to find how “successful” poisonous crops (that would be used on his home) were. He finally escapes, to find his wife had been killed at the hands of Humans. To be honest, if we were meant to hate him, and see him as an antagonist, Karen did a bad job. Again, it might be a case of me “over-sympathising” (is that even possible?) with those we are not supposed to.
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> > And then, after all that. Everything he goes through in Kilo-five, and we are meant to hate him in Halo 4. Am I the only one who does not? I most certainly not want to kill him. I can’t help but think this another case of hatred succeeding over rational thought; humanity captured him, experimented on him, and killed his wife. And yet no-one in the UNSC would blink an eyelid before gunning him down. Has no-one in the UNSC thought about why he might want revenge? If someone has, then why do they all simply want to kill him? The (not) funny thing is, if ONI had not intervened in Sangheili affairs, there would not be a remnant, or the Jul we know now. Only a weak Abiding Truth and an angry Sangheili with anti-human views.
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> > For me, Jul is a difficult one to find judgement on. I do find sympathy where there should be none, but I’m not sure it is the case here. I know it’s cheesy, but; “Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be so eager to pass death as judgement. For even the wise cannot see all ends.”
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> > As for Sangheili using Human weapons, the guys here have some pretty interesting points. (Yes, that’s me. Being absolutely smacked down. I’m currently trying to create a response. :P)
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> > Again, I have some pretty strange views, finding sympathy where there should be none. Don’t hesitate to point it out guys, I want to know whether my views are shared, or whether I have, lets say, “unique” views. xD
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> > Though I stand by what I said about Gek. I’m still pretty upset that the only other Sangheili in Halo 4 that has a name has been killed off. If Jul dies, I’ll be even more upset. Don’t get me wrong, I dislike the Covenant remnant and what it stands for. But from my point of view, any “living” Sangheili with a name and a reasonable story is a triumph. For one of them to be killed is a major step backwards.
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> hey I do feel bad for Jul myself, loosing his wife and being tested by humans for poisoness crops.
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> but two wrongs don’t make a right, his reasons for being angrey are understandible, but on the the other hand his actions are not acceptable, ONI arn’t much of the good guys either.
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> I also know that talking about the story is great, but we need to keep focus on makeing elties playable.
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> do we have any more ideas?. like what to include for there armor, cause we can still add some new ones.
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> I was thinking of an armor that would kind of but look abit like a cobra on the helmet. that would be my primary one. for an Elite.
> Start simple, noting that Sangheili are willign to help humanity here and there.
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> So as sims for sure.
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> It would also bring about new weapons such as the Plasma Launcher back into play.
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> What I’d want to see return is the Halo 3 armors along with some from Reach.
Pretty much agree except there are also some Halo 2 armors I want to see. I actually gimped a pic of all the armor I would like to see in the next Halo but I can’t figure out how to show it to you guys, if anyone can help with that it would be appreciated.
> <mark>but two wrongs don’t make a right, his reasons for being angrey are understandible, but on the the other hand his actions are not acceptable, ONI arn’t much of the good guys either.</mark>
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> I also know that talking about the story is great, but we need to keep focus on makeing elties playable.
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> do we have any more ideas?. like what to include for there armor, cause we can still add some new ones.
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> I was thinking of an armor that would kind of but look abit like a cobra on the helmet. that would be my primary one. for an Elite.
That’s exactly my point! Why make it three?
Yeah… We (or I) may have strayed a little. For armours, I’d be happy as long as we get the Halo 3 armours again, maybe a few new ones?
I can’t think of any new ones, but I would love to see something like those armours I posted a while back.
> There were the armors in Halo 2 for sure, and perhaps some new ones could always be made.
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> So what would be the <mark>“Recon”</mark> of the Sangheili armors?
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> Gonna go off topic now.
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> For some reason I’ve been listening to the Halo 2 soundtrack a lot more lately.
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> And secondly, are there still Sangheili based ‘clans’ online still?
I want to say either zealots or spec ops, because both are the ones who reconnaissance about the area and are almost always under hostile areas.
Not good Majestic is there and so is Palmer and they have orders to kill Halsey. Requiem go boom? Looks like Halsey’s running out of time or the Librarian is gonna do some thing to her like she did to John.
> > Share!
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> Not good Majestic is there and so is Palmer and they have orders to kill Halsey. Requiem go boom? Looks like Halsey’s running out of time or the Librarian is gonna do some thing to her like she did to John.
Perhaps wishful thinking on my part but one way I could see playable Sangheili is being on of the Remnant’s own soldiers primarily a spec ops team defending Hasley against Spartans and Marine forces.
> > > Share!
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> > Not good Majestic is there and so is Palmer and they have orders to kill Halsey. Requiem go boom? Looks like Halsey’s running out of time or the Librarian is gonna do some thing to her like she did to John.
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> Perhaps wishful thinking on my part but one way I could see playable Sangheili is being on of the Remnant’s own soldiers primarily a spec ops team defending Hasley against Spartans and Marine forces.
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> ^not gonna happen but it would be interesting.
Jul Mdama Talking to players start of the game:
STOP THE HUMANS! DO NOT LET THEM THROUGH!
PROTECT DOCTOR HALSEY WITH YOUR LIFE WARRIORS!
KILL THE VILE DEMONS! PROTECT THE DOCTOR AND THE LIBRARIAN!
If you fail:
HALSEY IS DEAD! FALL BACK!
YOU HAVE FAILED THIS MISSION! YOU WILL NOT GET OFF REQUIEM ALIVE!
If you win:
THE HUMANS WERE NO MATCH FOR YOU WARRIORS! VICTORY IS OURS!
HALSEY IS SAFE FOR NOW BUT THE HUMANS WILL RETURN! HEAD BACK TO THE PHANTOM!
WITH THE HUMANS DEAD THE DEMONS WILL DIE ALONG WITH REQUIEM!
> > > > Share!
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> > > Not good Majestic is there and so is Palmer and they have orders to kill Halsey. Requiem go boom? Looks like Halsey’s running out of time or the Librarian is gonna do some thing to her like she did to John.
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> > Perhaps wishful thinking on my part but one way I could see playable Sangheili is being on of the Remnant’s own soldiers primarily a spec ops team defending Hasley against Spartans and Marine forces.
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> > ^not gonna happen but it would be interesting.
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> Jul Mdama Talking to players start of the game:
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> STOP THE HUMANS! DO NOT LET THEM THROUGH!
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> PROTECT DOCTOR HALSEY WITH YOUR LIFE WARRIORS!
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> KILL THE VILE DEMONS! PROTECT THE DOCTOR AND THE LIBRARIAN!
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> If you fail:
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> HALSEY IS DEAD! FALL BACK!
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> YOU HAVE FAILED THIS MISSION! YOU WILL NOT GET OFF REQUIEM ALIVE!
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> If you win:
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> THE HUMANS WERE NO MATCH FOR YOU WARRIORS! VICTORY IS OURS!
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> HALSEY IS SAFE FOR NOW BUT THE HUMANS WILL RETURN! HEAD BACK TO THE PHANTOM!
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> WITH THE HUMANS DEAD THE DEMONS WILL DIE ALONG WITH REQUIEM!
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> THE DEMONS ARE DEAD YOU SHALL BE REWARDED!
thats intresting, I think it would be cool to if we were playing both good and bad elties based on the armor.
> > > > > Share!
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> > > > Not good Majestic is there and so is Palmer and they have orders to kill Halsey. Requiem go boom? Looks like Halsey’s running out of time or the Librarian is gonna do some thing to her like she did to John.
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> > > Perhaps wishful thinking on my part but one way I could see playable Sangheili is being on of the Remnant’s own soldiers primarily a spec ops team defending Hasley against Spartans and Marine forces.
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> > > ^not gonna happen but it would be interesting.
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> > Jul Mdama Talking to players start of the game:
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> > STOP THE HUMANS! DO NOT LET THEM THROUGH!
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> > PROTECT DOCTOR HALSEY WITH YOUR LIFE WARRIORS!
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> > KILL THE VILE DEMONS! PROTECT THE DOCTOR AND THE LIBRARIAN!
> >
> > If you fail:
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> > HALSEY IS DEAD! FALL BACK!
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> > YOU HAVE FAILED THIS MISSION! YOU WILL NOT GET OFF REQUIEM ALIVE!
> >
> > If you win:
> >
> > THE HUMANS WERE NO MATCH FOR YOU WARRIORS! VICTORY IS OURS!
> >
> > HALSEY IS SAFE FOR NOW BUT THE HUMANS WILL RETURN! HEAD BACK TO THE PHANTOM!
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> > WITH THE HUMANS DEAD THE DEMONS WILL DIE ALONG WITH REQUIEM!
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> > THE DEMONS ARE DEAD YOU SHALL BE REWARDED!
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> thats intresting, I think it would be cool to if we were playing both good and bad elties based on the armor.
the catch is, that mission should be the hardest one for anyone.
More fun on off topics: is it heresy for me to use this human shotgun against the flood?
> > > > > > Share!
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> > > > > Not good Majestic is there and so is Palmer and they have orders to kill Halsey. Requiem go boom? Looks like Halsey’s running out of time or the Librarian is gonna do some thing to her like she did to John.
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> > > > Perhaps wishful thinking on my part but one way I could see playable Sangheili is being on of the Remnant’s own soldiers primarily a spec ops team defending Hasley against Spartans and Marine forces.
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> > > > ^not gonna happen but it would be interesting.
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> > > Jul Mdama Talking to players start of the game:
> > >
> > > STOP THE HUMANS! DO NOT LET THEM THROUGH!
> > >
> > > PROTECT DOCTOR HALSEY WITH YOUR LIFE WARRIORS!
> > >
> > > KILL THE VILE DEMONS! PROTECT THE DOCTOR AND THE LIBRARIAN!
> > >
> > > If you fail:
> > >
> > > HALSEY IS DEAD! FALL BACK!
> > >
> > > YOU HAVE FAILED THIS MISSION! YOU WILL NOT GET OFF REQUIEM ALIVE!
> > >
> > > If you win:
> > >
> > > THE HUMANS WERE NO MATCH FOR YOU WARRIORS! VICTORY IS OURS!
> > >
> > > HALSEY IS SAFE FOR NOW BUT THE HUMANS WILL RETURN! HEAD BACK TO THE PHANTOM!
> > >
> > > WITH THE HUMANS DEAD THE DEMONS WILL DIE ALONG WITH REQUIEM!
> > >
> > > THE DEMONS ARE DEAD YOU SHALL BE REWARDED!
> >
> > thats intresting, I think it would be cool to if we were playing both good and bad elties based on the armor.
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> the catch is, that mission should be the hardest one for anyone.
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> More fun on off topics: is it heresy for me to use this human shotgun against the flood?
I haven’t been on this thread in about 2 months. Can i get a stand on people’s current view on 343’s change of Elites? How you the Sangheili community now feel?
> I haven’t been on this thread in about 2 months. Can i get a stand on people’s current view on 343’s change of Elites? How you the Sangheili community now feel?
Since 343i announced that elites aren’t returning, I have been angry and shocked at the same time. However, I have been very calm lately as 343i has been steadily improvising the game, but I feel that they will return again (unsure how) and that gives me, and perhaps other people here, hope.
> > I haven’t been on this thread in about 2 months. Can i get a stand on people’s current view on 343’s change of Elites? How you the Sangheili community now feel?
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> Since 343i announced that elites aren’t returning, I have been angry and shocked at the same time. However, I have been very calm lately as 343i has been steadily improvising the game, but I feel that they will return again (unsure how) and that gives me, and perhaps other people here, hope.
you can hang me for pessimism later. But all things considered I have no faith in 343.
And to quote “Hope is the first step towards disappointment”
> I haven’t been on this thread in about 2 months. Can i get a stand on people’s current view on 343’s change of Elites? How you the Sangheili community now feel?
I guess the general vibe here is defeat.
We tried to fight, we lost, we have no chance of changing what is done.
All we can do is reminisce and hope for the future.
Congratulations to everybody for keeping this forum going for so long, especially OP ('Telcam).
The Custom Games community has received a response, and so shall we, we just have to keep trying.
> > I haven’t been on this thread in about 2 months. Can i get a stand on people’s current view on 343’s change of Elites? How you the Sangheili community now feel?
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> I guess the general vibe here is defeat.
> We tried to fight, we lost, we have no chance of changing what is done.
> All we can do is reminisce and hope for the future.
> Congratulations to everybody for keeping this forum going for so long, especially OP ('Telcam).
> The Custom Games community has received a response, and so shall we, we just have to keep trying.
Unfortunately so, the Custom Games deal also applies to us, though I wonder how much the Machima makers are bummed out, I figure a few are still using Reach.
Trying, but I’m not even sure if we even made progression at all.
The honor guard, using those staves would be fun, be a nice counter to the Gravity Hammer. Totally not saying that the Energy Sword is inferior to that brute weaponry.
> Honor Guard Elites and their spears/staffs/javelins as weapons would be so cool.
If they are bought in Halo 2 Anniversary it should be only for custom game and not for a weapon cause that is only a weapon to protect someone of high authority. It would be a good use in a machinima if 343 makes H2 Anniv. As for the weapons they would use energy swords more often or any other weapon but I would love to see the Honor Guard appear as a armor unlock in H2 Anniv. Btw you guys think by looking at the General in Halo Reach looks like an Honor Guard? XD I see a resemblance o.o
