> It seems some tensions are running a bit high here…
I’m just really pissed about Traviss’s books. She is ruining the Universe I love. I’m not exaggerating when I say that, I really hate her books. If it weren’t for Greg Bear, I would have quit reading the new novels long ago.
> hello everybody, im back…and guess what. I think there is a definite answer to your question about the looks of elites in halo 2 Anniversary (if there is going to be one). First, at that time, elites were at the pinnicle of there armor suits, so they are probably going to be outfitted as normal sangheli military. So, (hopefully back with the ultra elites for me) Back comes Spec ops commander Rtas… which im expecting for him to look pretty good as well as that we get to see the arbiter, both in his arbiter armor, and in his supreme commander suit. THAT is something I am looking foward to. Also, in halo 2 there were…
> minors
> majors
> ultras
> spec ops
> spec ops commander
> zealots
> supreme commander
> counclers (XD if this comes back and wearable in multiplayer)
> honor guards
> and honor guard ultras
> and not to put in the glitch/ intended boss councler honor guard
> Sooo, those by themselver are more models than any other halo for elites if they need to remake each one. Unless they just change color like in halo 2 originally. but even that leaves us with
> combat
> arbiter
> councler
> and honor guard
> which in my opinion would probably be awsome just to wear the varaitey of them in multiplayer.
>
> and yea, im with you guys… anniversary 2 will be sooo messed up if elites arent playable in multiplayer
Obviously halo 2 anniversery will have the campaigen intact but im not sure if Halo 2 anniversery will evan have Multiplayer. sdtill that would be nice.
and No it wouldn’t maker sense for them to change Halo 2 anniverserys campaigen that will upset the fans, evan the ones who didn’t appreciate the story before.
> just shows how much 343i does care, and I’m sticking to that until I see that “343” tag pop up on this forum.
Kind of expecting abit to much ain’t ya?. but thats okay we all want to hear from 343 about the Elites. but readng the fourms recently they’re still trying to fix up Halo 4’s problems.
> hello everybody, im back…and guess what. I think there is a definite answer to your question about the looks of elites in halo 2 Anniversary (if there is going to be one). First, at that time, elites were at the pinnicle of there armor suits, so they are probably going to be outfitted as normal sangheli military. So, (hopefully back with the ultra elites for me) Back comes Spec ops commander Rtas… which im expecting for him to look pretty good as well as that we get to see the arbiter, both in his arbiter armor, and in his supreme commander suit. THAT is something I am looking foward to. Also, in halo 2 there were…
> minors
> majors
> ultras
> spec ops
> spec ops commander
> zealots
> supreme commander
> counclers (XD if this comes back and wearable in multiplayer)
> honor guards
> and honor guard ultras
> and not to put in the glitch/ intended boss councler honor guard
> Sooo, those by themselver are more models than any other halo for elites if they need to remake each one. Unless they just change color like in halo 2 originally. but even that leaves us with
> combat
> arbiter
> councler
> and honor guard
> which in my opinion would probably be awsome just to wear the varaitey of them in multiplayer.
>
> and yea, im with you guys… anniversary 2 will be sooo messed up if elites arent playable in multiplayer
Good to see you back 
As for the armors for Elites they’re all good except the Arbiter armor we shouldn’t have that because Bungie discussed about that long ago when they were making Halo 2. The Honor Guard and Counsilor armor should return and be available to players.
> > hello everybody, im back…and guess what. I think there is a definite answer to your question about the looks of elites in halo 2 Anniversary (if there is going to be one). First, at that time, elites were at the pinnicle of there armor suits, so they are probably going to be outfitted as normal sangheli military. So, (hopefully back with the ultra elites for me) Back comes Spec ops commander Rtas… which im expecting for him to look pretty good as well as that we get to see the arbiter, both in his arbiter armor, and in his supreme commander suit. THAT is something I am looking foward to. Also, in halo 2 there were…
> > minors
> > majors
> > ultras
> > spec ops
> > spec ops commander
> > zealots
> > supreme commander
> > counclers (XD if this comes back and wearable in multiplayer)
> > honor guards
> > and honor guard ultras
> > and not to put in the glitch/ intended boss councler honor guard
> > Sooo, those by themselver are more models than any other halo for elites if they need to remake each one. Unless they just change color like in halo 2 originally. but even that leaves us with
> > combat
> > arbiter
> > councler
> > and honor guard
> > which in my opinion would probably be awsome just to wear the varaitey of them in multiplayer.
> >
> > and yea, im with you guys… anniversary 2 will be sooo messed up if elites arent playable in multiplayer
>
> Good to see you back As for the armors for Elites they’re all good except the Arbiter armor we shouldn’t have that because Bungie discussed about that long ago when they were making Halo 2. The Honor Guard and Counsilor armor should return and be available to players.
we will have to have size change abit considering the size of the helmets
You know after playing the new Episode on Spartan Ops…
The suddenness of Jul’s so called “Invasion” as 343i so calls is a bit odd.
The one person you share a common goal (Dr. Hasley) suddenly gets cut off by the UNSC AI, and then the reaction that follows seems a bit odd don’t you think?
I wouldn’t really call it a rescue attempt but damn Jul was quick to react.
> You know after playing the new Episode on Spartan Ops…
>
> The suddenness of Jul’s so called “Invasion” as 343i so calls is a bit odd.
>
> The one person you share a common goal (Dr. Hasley) suddenly gets cut off by the UNSC AI, and then the reaction that follows seems a bit odd don’t you think?
>
> I wouldn’t really call it a rescue attempt but damn Jul was quick to react.
after seeing Helsey overwrite that AI for a momment, I was thinking,
Dr Helsey is a badass and she doesn’t evan need a gun.
as for Jul’s quick to react, maybe he planned it before helsey contacted him.
> Dr Helsey is a badass and she doesn’t evan need a gun.
>
> as for Jul’s quick to react, maybe he planned it before helsey contacted him.
Halsey never needs a gun XD She has brains and words to use against her enemies >3
As for Jul it is interesting the two are working together but they’re after the Librarian since 343 Guilty Spark mentioned in Thursday War that she is alive and he must find her. I’m interested to see in the next episode what’s gonna happen.
> > Dr Helsey is a badass and she doesn’t evan need a gun.
> >
> > as for Jul’s quick to react, maybe he planned it before helsey contacted him.
>
> Halsey never needs a gun XD She has brains and words to use against her enemies >3
>
> As for Jul it is interesting the two are working together but they’re after the Librarian since 343 Guilty Spark mentioned in Thursday War that she is alive and he must find her. I’m interested to see in the next episode what’s gonna happen.
hopefuly this will change the way Jul sees things, or he will be to blinded and then still go on a rampage either way.
but were kind of straying from the topic, the point here is to make Elites Playable.
and I hate repeating this but I’d like an answer
to those who suggest the Elties can be a simulation how about this?
what if the MP’s story doesn’t “need” to take palce as a training simulation.
Reach had canon and the spartans and Elties fighting seemed like the real deal, the only reason why spartans where fighting eachother (for instance) in halo reach is because canon sometimes needs to be broken for convenience
Elites have been a great adition to Halo. They could simply be added to multiplayer. The story behind it would be that they are attached images to Spartans, which have begun being used to help train the Spartans for the new threat from the Remnant. The Infinity would register hits to specific parts of the images instead of the Spartan’s body. If the Elites need to be changed to fix balancing issues, then the attached image fixed to a Spartan would be molded, and would explain the reason why Elites are different looking in multiplayer.
Another story which could also suport elites in multiplayer is a background “contract” between the USNC and an Elite faction (likely Thel’vadams Elites). One of the terms of the “contract” is help from the Elites on various battlegrounds including Requiem. They would have access to Infinity’s war games simulation to train as well as giving a better training session to Spartans, which would help them all fight a better war against the Remnant.
> woltey X;2227452]
> Elites have been a great adition to Halo. They could simply be added to multiplayer. The story behind it would be that they are attached images to Spartans, which have begun being used to help train the Spartans for the new threat from the Remnant. The Infinity would register hits to specific parts of the images instead of the Spartan’s body. If the Elites need to be changed to fix balancing issues, then the attached image fixed to a Spartan would be molded, and would explain the reason why Elites are different looking in multiplayer.
>
> <mark>Another story which could also suport elites in multiplayer is a background “contract” between the USNC and an Elite faction (likely Thel’vadams Elites). One of the terms of the “contract” is help from the Elites on various battlegrounds including Requiem. They would have access to Infinity’s war games simulation to train as well as giving a better training session to Spartans, which would help them all fight a better war against the Remnant</mark>
I like this highlighted one. thats the best way to make Elites playable, but I think first thel needs to get the knowledge of that the cheif is alive. or if thel finds out Jul is on causing trouble.
During the “contract” they could discuss certain battles that would benefit them both, which would also include the fight at Requiem. Therefore Thel could be made aware of Jul which he might want to help due to his rather large rebellion which could turn against Thel if the Remnant wins. They do have the help of prometheans, which would make the threat a rather large one. In the mind of Thel he might think of quelling the threat as quickly as possible allowing the infinity to help them on other battlegrounds.
> On another topic to cheer things up, how many people get Halo based dreams? And how many more get them physically being a Sangheili?
Me.
> > On another topic to cheer things up, how many people get Halo based dreams? And how many more get them physically being a Sangheili?
>
> Me.
Same here. I dreamed I was playing a halo game with Halo 4’s graphic and my Elite was wearing its armor from halo 3.
> Elites have been a great adition to Halo. […] They would have access to Infinity’s war games simulation to train as well as giving a better training session to Spartans, which would help them all fight a better war against the Remnant.
These sound strangely familiar… xD
They would fit quite nicely. Though we still have no confirmation of the mechanics of Infinity’s simulations, so we don’t for sure know whether it can “layer” something over the body of a Spartan. Though that’s probably how the Flood are simulated, so I see no reason why it wouldn’t be possible. If you can have a Holographic Form Emulator, why not a Sangheili hologram that layers over the body instead?
And that about a contract would fit in nicely to our (or Didakt’s) Usze 'Taham theory.
> and I hate repeating this but I’d like an answer
>
> to those who suggest the Elties can be a simulation how about this?
>
> what if the MP’s story doesn’t “need” to take palce as a training simulation.
>
> Reach had canon and the spartans and Elties fighting seemed like the real deal, the only reason why spartans where fighting eachother (for instance) in halo reach is because canon sometimes needs to be broken for convenience
Infinity simulations appear to be here for good. I can’t see 343i going against this. It seems to be the way multi-player is heading, I’m afraid.
It doesn’t need to be a part of a simulation, but that just seems to be the way things are headed, unfortunately. But don’t let me put you off though, it’s a nice idea, and could very well be a way for Sangheili inclusion.
Reach’s multi-player wasn’t canon, and that’s why we had such variety, and little thought for how a certain aspect would fit into canon. This was for the best, was it not? Canon multi-player seems to have more disadvantages that advantages; yes, it is cool, but how many aspects have been taken out due to it? How many more? Is the loss of certain aspects worth having a nice little story? Bah, I guess I’m not really the one who can make a balanced argument. 
Though I don’t think multi-player should have a story-line of its own, 343 does. And so, we need to think of canon reasons for Sangheili inclusion. We can’t simply discard it, unfortunately (again :P).
Went a bit on the rantish side there. Sorry about that. 
Keep coming up with ideas though. The more the better!
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I agree, canon can tend to ruin multiplayer, but a little bit of canon can sometimes be nice. Not enough though that ruins parts of a game that are left for new/old players to find (again) and enjoy. Heres another story to back the Elites. During the wars occuring between Brutes and Elites, and Elites with themselves. Thel begins to send out a ship to go find and study Forerunner tech to advance their weapons and other stuff so the wars become easier for them to win. While they stumble upon some Forerunner tech here and there, they leave groups to study it and move on. They keep going until they lay eyes upon Requiem. They notice Infinity and make contact. The single and smaller ship would explain the fewer number of Elite players in multiplayer (since there is a larger Spartan presence and the Infinity carries them all). The Elite scientists would exist because of Thel beginning of looking at human ways, and his incorporation of Human logic into his mind.
> > Elites have been a great adition to Halo. […] They would have access to Infinity’s war games simulation to train as well as giving a better training session to Spartans, which would help them all fight a better war against the Remnant.
>
> These sound strangely familiar… xD
>
> They would fit quite nicely. Though we still have no confirmation of the mechanics of Infinity’s simulations, so we don’t for sure know whether it can “layer” something over the body of a Spartan. Though that’s probably how the Flood are simulated, so I see no reason why it wouldn’t be possible. If you can have a Holographic Form Emulator, why not a Sangheili hologram that layers over the body instead?
>
> And that about a contract would fit in nicely to our (or Didakt’s) Usze 'Taham theory.
>
>
>
> > and I hate repeating this but I’d like an answer
> >
> > to those who suggest the Elties can be a simulation how about this?
> >
> > what if the MP’s story doesn’t “need” to take palce as a training simulation.
> >
> > Reach had canon and the spartans and Elties fighting seemed like the real deal, the only reason why spartans where fighting eachother (for instance) in halo reach is because canon sometimes needs to be broken for convenience
>
> Infinity simulations appear to be here for good. I can’t see 343i going against this. It seems to be the way multi-player is heading, I’m afraid.
>
> It doesn’t need to be a part of a simulation, but that just seems to be the way things are headed, unfortunately. But don’t let me put you off though, it’s a nice idea, and could very well be a way for Sangheili inclusion.
>
> Reach’s multi-player wasn’t canon, and that’s why we had such variety, and little thought for how a certain aspect would fit into canon. This was for the best, was it not? Canon multi-player seems to have more disadvantages that advantages; yes, it is cool, but how many aspects have been taken out due to it? How many more? Is the loss of certain aspects worth having a nice little story? Bah, I guess I’m not really the one who can make a balanced argument.
>
> Though I don’t think multi-player should have a story-line of its own, 343 does. And so, we need to think of canon reasons for Sangheili inclusion. We can’t simply discard it, unfortunately (again :P).
>
> Went a bit on the rantish side there. Sorry about that.
>
> Keep coming up with ideas though. The more the better!
>
> Recruit - Silver!
well I think if tis going to stay as a simulaiton (based on your concern) then Elties may not make it into the next game.
makeing it the real deal can give the Elite fans the thing that we all want.
to play as an Elite.
plus its still can’t be explained as to way where seeing guilty spark models in forge
> I agree, canon can tend to ruin multiplayer, but a little bit of canon can sometimes be nice. Not enough though that ruins parts of a game that are left for new/old players to find (again) and enjoy. Heres another story to back the Elites. During the wars occuring between Brutes and Elites, and Elites with themselves. Thel begins to send out a ship to go find and study Forerunner tech to advance their weapons and other stuff so the wars become easier for them to win. While they stumble upon some Forerunner tech here and there, they leave groups to study it and move on. They keep going until they lay eyes upon Requiem. They notice Infinity and make contact. The single and smaller ship would explain the fewer number of Elite players in multiplayer (since there is a larger Spartan presence and the Infinity carries them all). The Elite scientists would exist because of Thel beginning of looking at human ways, and his incorporation of Human logic into his mind.
thats a nice Idea but the only way we can see that working is if thel’s elites where allowed on the Infinity.
though thel has visited the Infinity before (according to someone who read the book).
Actually the Infinity helped Thel by attacking part of a rebellion called the servants of abiding truth. So the Infinity is on good terms with the Arbiter based on the folllowing paragraph I read.
Its the paragraph with the subtitle Sanghelios.
> Actually the Infinity helped Thel by attacking part of a rebellion called the servants of abiding truth. So the Infinity is on good terms with the Arbiter based on the folllowing paragraph I read.
>
> Thel 'Vadam | Halo Alpha | Fandom
>
> Its the paragraph with the subtitle Sanghelios.
But, ONI (Or more specifically Port Stanley) destroys multiple Arbiter allied ships.
We still need to find out about whether Thel’s proposed visit to Infinity was approved (it was left as a cliffhanger, reptile), at the end of Thursday War, to make anything of Infinity’s aid. Still speculation at the moment.
Though improbable, I would love to see an Arbiter-allied research team stumbling across Infinity. Though I would not know whether the meeting would be a happy one, Requiem is now a UNSC research base, and therefore classified (If Sangheili-Human relations were at the same rate as they were at the end of halo: Thursday War. Again, it all depends on how Thel’s visit was successful), after all. It’s a nice idea though.
> > Actually the Infinity helped Thel by attacking part of a rebellion called the servants of abiding truth. So the Infinity is on good terms with the Arbiter based on the folllowing paragraph I read.
> >
> > Thel 'Vadam | Halo Alpha | Fandom
> >
> > Its the paragraph with the subtitle Sanghelios.
>
> But, ONI (Or more specifically Port Stanley) destroys multiple Arbiter allied ships.
>
> We still need to find out about whether Thel’s proposed visit to Infinity was approved (it was left as a cliffhanger, reptile), at the end of Thursday War, to make anything of Infinity’s aid. Still speculation at the moment.
>
> Though improbable, I would love to see an Arbiter-allied research team stumbling across Infinity. Though I would not know whether the meeting would be a happy one, Requiem is now a UNSC research base, and therefore classified, after all. It’s a nice idea though.
thats why the MP’s story should not be simulaiton so that Elites can be included into the MP’s story.
> > > Actually the Infinity helped Thel by attacking part of a rebellion called the servants of abiding truth. So the Infinity is on good terms with the Arbiter based on the folllowing paragraph I read.
> > >
> > > Thel 'Vadam | Halo Alpha | Fandom
> > >
> > > Its the paragraph with the subtitle Sanghelios.
> >
> > But, ONI (Or more specifically Port Stanley) destroys multiple Arbiter allied ships.
> >
> > We still need to find out about whether Thel’s proposed visit to Infinity was approved (it was left as a cliffhanger, reptile), at the end of Thursday War, to make anything of Infinity’s aid. Still speculation at the moment.
> >
> > Though improbable, I would love to see an Arbiter-allied research team stumbling across Infinity. Though I would not know whether the meeting would be a happy one, Requiem is now a UNSC research base, and therefore classified, after all. It’s a nice idea though.
>
> thats why the MP’s story should not be simulaiton so that Elites can be included into the MP’s story.
The simulated Sangheili points still haven’t been discounted.
Though what I said about Requiem being classified was crap. Sorry about that. Edited post. If the Sangheili-Human relationship has improved, then why not have Sangheili squads helping on Requiem and in simulations?