Sangheili (Elites) In New Trilogy Matchmaking (Part 1)

I highly doubt they are reading this because bs angel on her twitter account confirmed there will be no theater in Co-op or Spartan Ops to take screenshots which is very disappointing. We asked for that cause who wants to take screenshots of themselves killing Covies or Prometheans in both areas besides MP? I know I would. So all the screenshots we can take is only on MP which sucks! Halo 4 would be the first Halo game not to have this all the other Halo games Halo 3-Reach has this feature(minus CEA). We did ask for this so 343 said ‘No take MP screenshots instead!’ Us: sad faces Totally uncool 343. Uncool. I hope they are reading our thread here so far I see no 343 member replying to this matter. I’m also very scared of them if they aren’t listening on the Halo 2 forums when the remake of Halo 2 comes out because we did ask for that and we even ask them not to touch the game and go with ither Reach or Halo 3 models. If Halo 2 Annvi. comes out I am gonna be so scared to find out what is gonna happen to our beloved game out of all the Halo series. I hope they listen to us. They must not fail if they wanna continue to make Halo games.

  1. IF 343i is reading, I want closure not suspense of the unknown and have a majority of players dwell in hatred in which it boils over and it bites the company so hard in the -Yoink- it would spell the end of Halo.

  2. Jul probably has a ton of disposal, ranging from vengeful Sangheili, to Human supplies who deal in the dark.
    When you’re dealing with the underground or terrorist organizations they could be supplied by anyone and everyone.
    While he plays the part of a charismatic leader for those following the faith, he plays them easily.
    And still the Remnant is cunning and next we should know they’re gonna use USNC tanks against Spartans if 343i goes that road. AFter all the Flood did the same in Halo 2.

3)Is it just me or I’m really really really getting sick of Humanity being oh so flipping special in every scifi universe I read upon? Like really? Humanity is special why? Mantle of Responsibility or no its starting be BS to me.

(okay okay that third comment was a bit uncalled for, Mass Effect and 40k doesn’t really have that special destiny for our race syndrome going on)

> I highly doubt they are reading this because bs angel on her twitter account confirmed there will be no theater in Co-op or Spartan Ops to take screenshots which is very disappointing. We asked for that cause who wants to take screenshots of themselves killing Covies or Prometheans in both areas besides MP? I know I would. So all the screenshots we can take is only on MP which sucks! Halo 4 would be the first Halo game not to have this all the other Halo games Halo 3-Reach has this feature(minus CEA). We did ask for this so 343 said ‘No take MP screenshots instead!’ Us: sad faces Totally uncool 343. Uncool. I hope they are reading our thread here so far I see no 343 member replying to this matter. I’m also very scared of them if they aren’t listening on the Halo 2 forums when the remake of Halo 2 comes out because we did ask for that and we even ask them not to touch the game and go with ither Reach or Halo 3 models. If Halo 2 Annvi. comes out I am gonna be so scared to find out what is gonna happen to our beloved game out of all the Halo series. I hope they listen to us. They must not fail if they wanna continue to make Halo games.

If they change halo 2 “which was the best by far” at all I will be done with the series. Leave elites in it. great job on cea please don’t break the greatest franchise since star wars.

Also better hope the Halo 2 Elites in the Anniversary version don’t turn out to be ugly looking like in Halo 4…

> Also better hope the Halo 2 Elites in the Anniversary version don’t turn out to be ugly looking like in Halo 4…

I want a simple updated look of Halo 2 Elites. They looked the best out of any Halo. I don’t want 343’s required redesign, they better have the copyright back when they do make it.

> I highly doubt they are reading this because bs angel on her twitter account confirmed there will be no theater in Co-op or Spartan Ops to take screenshots which is very disappointing. We asked for that cause who wants to take screenshots of themselves killing Covies or Prometheans in both areas besides MP? I know I would. So all the screenshots we can take is only on MP which sucks! Halo 4 would be the first Halo game not to have this all the other Halo games Halo 3-Reach has this feature(minus CEA). We did ask for this so 343 said ‘No take MP screenshots instead!’ Us: sad faces Totally uncool 343. Uncool. I hope they are reading our thread here so far I see no 343 member replying to this matter. I’m also very scared of them if they aren’t listening on the Halo 2 forums when the remake of Halo 2 comes out because we did ask for that and we even ask them not to touch the game and go with ither Reach or Halo 3 models. If Halo 2 Annvi. comes out I am gonna be so scared to find out what is gonna happen to our beloved game out of all the Halo series. I hope they listen to us. They must not fail if they wanna continue to make Halo games.

Lacking one feature would not affect another.

still Im confident the Elites will be Playable in Halo 5, and remember this is all based on canon now. so instead of makeing the Elites be a Simulation, how about the MP’s Story takes place somewhere else like in the real battlefield.

> 3)Is it just me or I’m really really really getting sick of Humanity being oh so flipping special in every scifi universe I read upon? Like really? Humanity is special why? Mantle of Responsibility or no its starting be BS to me.

Actuly that I can see being over used in alot of fictional works. infact I have yet to see a Game where the Aliens are the protagonist against another alien race.

> > Also better hope the Halo 2 Elites in the Anniversary version don’t turn out to be ugly looking like in Halo 4…
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> I want a simple updated look of Halo 2 Elites. They looked the best out of any Halo. I don’t want 343’s required redesign, they better have the copyright back when they do make it.

That’s all I want. A simple remade Halo 2 Elite, not these “updated” creatures. Halo 2 Elites were the best by far. A Halo 2: Anniversary would be the only future game I would really look forward to (except Halo 5 campaign 'course), it would definitely bring the focus back to Sangheili. Maybe enough to secure their place in future main trilogy games. :smiley:

Like I said, I want some closure, not a revolt.

I honestly find the Halo: Reach elites to be best, though I would have loved to see the Halo 3 armors updated to that style. In Reach they were slick, proud, everything the race would want itself to look as.

As for Humanity being oh so speshul, while I understand behind all these computer screens we are all human (physically as far as I care to know), I’m working on a book for crying outloud and have a lot to deal with.

yes humans are in there but I don’t suddenly go with that bias of POOR WRITING to get away with the norm. No matter what universe, unless its this boring rock 3rd one from the sun, there is always different species and races that come into effect. While it wouldn’t be peace on Earth and Goodwill toward men, it most certainly would be realistic.

I need to stop right here before I go on a rant (again)

On another topic to cheer things up, how many people get Halo based dreams? And how many more get them physically being a Sangheili?

ughhhhhhhhh

> Like I said, I want some closure, not a revolt.
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> I honestly find the Halo: Reach elites to be best, though I would have loved to see the Halo 3 armors updated to that style. In Reach they were slick, proud, everything the race would want itself to look as.
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> As for Humanity being oh so speshul, while I understand behind all these computer screens we are all human (physically as far as I care to know), I’m working on a book for crying outloud and have a lot to deal with.
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> yes humans are in there but I don’t suddenly go with that bias of POOR WRITING to get away with the norm. No matter what universe, unless its this boring rock 3rd one from the sun, there is always different species and races that come into effect. While it wouldn’t be peace on Earth and Goodwill toward men, it most certainly would be realistic.
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> I need to stop right here before I go on a rant (again)
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> On another topic to cheer things up, how many people get Halo based dreams? And how many more get them physically being a Sangheili?

It does get a little on my nerves, with Humanity being having the moral high ground in everything they do. After Cryptum I assumed that if Humanity was going to hold the Mantle differently to the Forerunners, they would need to do so in co-operation with other species, instead of trying to wipe them out (or devolve/move, etc.) to keep their “supremacy” as the Forerunners did. But they aren’t, are they? It begs the question, is Humanity ready for the Mantle? I don’t think I’ll have that rant again, I’ve had to have done that so many times. :stuck_out_tongue:

And no, not really. That means yes. xD xD

> ughhhhhhhhh

Umm… Thanks? I think… I think I’ll take that as support and run. xD

> Also better hope the Halo 2 Elites in the Anniversary version don’t turn out to be ugly looking like in Halo 4…

Thats why I say they should use ither Halo Reach or Halo 3 models like in CEA. CEA had Covenant models while the Flood had H3 models. I hope 343 goes with the same idea they did for CEA cause when they did CEA they did a fantastic job. If they go with the H4 models I’m gonna rage and rip my hair out and rage like a berserk Brute.

> > Also better hope the Halo 2 Elites in the Anniversary version don’t turn out to be ugly looking like in Halo 4…
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> Thats why I say they should use ither Halo Reach or Halo 3 models like in CEA. CEA had Covenant models while the Flood had H3 models. I hope 343 goes with the same idea they did for CEA cause when they did CEA they did a fantastic job. If they go with the H4 models I’m gonna rage and rip my hair out and rage like a berserk Brute.

Another reason not to use H4 models is scale. The H4 Sangheili would be vastly out of scale with the Halo 2 Sangheili models, if I remember H2 correctly. They would need to either use the Halo 3 model or create a new model entirely.

Not even mentioning the movement, skeleton, mandibles, legs, etc., in Halo 4 are of different shape and style to those of the Halo 2 model.

The thing with Halo: CEA is that in Halo: Reach the models were changed to a more Halo: CE-type look, making the conversion of models from Reach to CEA much easier. The same would not be true of a Halo: 2 Anniversary. Unless I’m talikng nonsense again (which I don’t doubt at all). :stuck_out_tongue:

> > Like I said, I want some closure, not a revolt.
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> > I honestly find the Halo: Reach elites to be best, though I would have loved to see the Halo 3 armors updated to that style. In Reach they were slick, proud, everything the race would want itself to look as.
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> > As for Humanity being oh so speshul, while I understand behind all these computer screens we are all human (physically as far as I care to know), I’m working on a book for crying outloud and have a lot to deal with.
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> > yes humans are in there but I don’t suddenly go with that bias of POOR WRITING to get away with the norm. No matter what universe, unless its this boring rock 3rd one from the sun, there is always different species and races that come into effect. While it wouldn’t be peace on Earth and Goodwill toward men, it most certainly would be realistic.
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> > I need to stop right here before I go on a rant (again)
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> > On another topic to cheer things up, how many people get Halo based dreams? And how many more get them physically being a Sangheili?
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> It does get a little on my nerves, with Humanity being having the moral high ground in everything they do. After Cryptum I assumed that if Humanity was going to hold the Mantle differently to the Forerunners, they would need to do so in co-operation with other species, instead of trying to wipe them out (or devolve/move, etc.) to keep their “supremacy” as the Forerunners did. But they aren’t, are they? It begs the question, is Humanity ready for the Mantle? I don’t think I’ll have that rant again, I’ve had to have done that so many times. :stuck_out_tongue:
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> And no, not really. That means yes. xD xD
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> > ughhhhhhhhh
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> Umm… Thanks? I think… I think I’ll take that as support and run. xD

I think a nice direction to go would be Humanity sharing the mantle with all the other species and forming a joint government with them.

> > Also better hope the Halo 2 Elites in the Anniversary version don’t turn out to be ugly looking like in Halo 4…
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> Thats why I say they should use ither Halo Reach or Halo 3 models like in CEA. CEA had Covenant models while the Flood had H3 models. I hope 343 goes with the same idea they did for CEA cause when they did CEA they did a fantastic job. If they go with the H4 models I’m gonna rage and rip my hair out and rage like a berserk Brute.

Completely agree! 343 did an excellent job on CEA! This is why I do not buy the theory that there is some contract out there keeping 343 from doing elites right because of CEA’s existence. I also think it would be a good idea if 343 used a mix of Halo 3 and Halo Reach’s Elite designs. But if they use Halo 4’s models which I consider to be barely recognizable as elites, than yes my reaction will probably be akin to yours!

Joint government…hehe the Covenant was that in all the wrong ways BUT somehow I can see the Innies being able to pull that off with all the other races while the UNSC are just the -Yoinks!-.

Anyone play Sins of a Solar Empire?

I like the Arbiter more then Chief. I like Sangheili more then humanity. Halo 2 is why because Halo 2 gave a unique look at the Covenant. Its what made me fall in love with Sangheili. But the Arbiter was a badass in Halo 2, Sadly, that was the only one he was really great in. Halo 3 butchered my favorite characters. Won’t go into it, but I hope that if Elites come back, that they are cool like they used to be.

I don’t enjoy being stuck with Traviss’s portrayal of the Haloverse. An Elite trying to stick a circle inside a square hole while humanity laughs.

It seems some tensions are running a bit high here…

> I like the Arbiter more then Chief. I like Sangheili more then humanity. Halo 2 is why because Halo 2 gave a unique look at the Covenant. Its what made me fall in love with Sangheili. But the Arbiter was a badass in Halo 2, Sadly, that was the only one he was really great in. Halo 3 butchered my favorite characters. Won’t go into it, but I hope that if Elites come back, that they are cool like they used to be.
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> I don’t enjoy being stuck with Traviss’s portrayal of the Haloverse. An Elite trying to stick a circle inside a square hole while humanity laughs.

I love Halo 2’s plot more than 3 because we the viewers have the great opportunity to understand the outlandish covenant theater more than our heroic badass UNSC heroes. But the Arbiter to me at first was a HUGE surprise for me and at first I was angry but then I replayed his levels, again and again, and I loved them as being spec-ops style. Also, their problems were as dire than the UNSC’s: rivalry, rebellion, secession, genocide, and finally, a civil war. I personally felt that the Covenant dissolving was their primary issue and what I love about this plot is that all of them made a choice: fight a losing battle, or join the Humans and parry them and prevent the halo arrays from firing.

Now, four years later, and they’ve returned as homicidal beasts from CE all over again :frowning: Bad way to start a new trilogy

yup we’ve gone back to square one on the elites being savages again.

just shows how much 343i does care, and I’m sticking to that until I see that “343” tag pop up on this forum.

hello everybody, im back…and guess what. I think there is a definite answer to your question about the looks of elites in halo 2 Anniversary (if there is going to be one). First, at that time, elites were at the pinnicle of there armor suits, so they are probably going to be outfitted as normal sangheli military. So, (hopefully back with the ultra elites for me) Back comes Spec ops commander Rtas… which im expecting for him to look pretty good as well as that we get to see the arbiter, both in his arbiter armor, and in his supreme commander suit. THAT is something I am looking foward to. Also, in halo 2 there were…
minors
majors
ultras
spec ops
spec ops commander
zealots
supreme commander
counclers (XD if this comes back and wearable in multiplayer)
honor guards
and honor guard ultras
and not to put in the glitch/ intended boss councler honor guard
Sooo, those by themselver are more models than any other halo for elites if they need to remake each one. Unless they just change color like in halo 2 originally. but even that leaves us with
combat
arbiter
councler
and honor guard
which in my opinion would probably be awsome just to wear the varaitey of them in multiplayer.

and yea, im with you guys… anniversary 2 will be sooo messed up if elites arent playable in multiplayer