I would like to See ELites being Playable from Halo 5 to the future titles of the series. and personaly I think it would be cool to have Elites and Prometheons Playable along side spartans.
I miss the days when you could play as an elite attacking a spartan base and feel like you are actually in a war. I miss the days when a Halo game brought something new and great to the world of halo but I do not miss the day when the creators of a new halo game took the amazing new thing away from the current new game. PLEASE BRING BACK ATTACK AND DEFEND WITH ELIETS!!! I play halo all of the time, it’s by far my favorite game, every single one of them ever since my first xbox and my first game was combat evolved. I have halo parties all of the time and nothing would be more kick -Yoink- then being an elite again to attack my friends base full of spartans. I feel like without an antagonistic point of view in matchmaking it’s just a more advanced call of duty. Please listen to all of us and bring back halo!!! My conclusion, don’t take anything away from this amazing game but only to add onto what was already a great hit.
What if I told you…
Nothing. *gasp
> What if I told you…
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> Nothing. *gasp
Mind=Blown.
So, what does everyone think will happen when the Covenant Remnant discover Jul is getting buddy-buddy with a human? I would love to see a Storm revolt later on in the season.
> So, what does everyone think will happen when the Covenant Remnant discover Jul is getting buddy-buddy with a human? I would love to see a Storm revolt later on in the season.
Nothing. The Covenant know about Halsey I’m sure Jul has information on her. Plus many of his men did serve back during the war with the humans during the Covenant/Human war. Jul was one of them since he was a former ship master. Halsey is too important for both sides and Jul would not kill her since she is the top scientist that knows of Forerunner tech.
Is there any news in sight that 343 will bring back playable elite’s?
> Is there any news in sight that 343 will bring back playable elite’s?
Nope. Nothing. Nada. Nein
> > So, what does everyone think will happen when the Covenant Remnant discover Jul is getting buddy-buddy with a human? I would love to see a Storm revolt later on in the season.
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> Nothing. The Covenant know about Halsey I’m sure Jul has information on her. Plus many of his men did serve back during the war with the humans during the Covenant/Human war. Jul was one of them since he was a former ship master. Halsey is too important for both sides and Jul would not kill her since she is the top scientist that knows of Forerunner tech.
then theres only one way to make elites playable in campaign, the Arbiter must Jump in and Kill Jul.
I would like to be a part of that fight, Arbiter Thel Vadam vs Jul Mdama.
Scary thing about Jul is that he had learned to “Think like a human” meaning he’s more deceptive and cunning than before, his time being stuck on Onyx or Trevalyn (did I spell that right?) somewhat twisted his mind, and learning upon the death of Ria (beautiful name too) probably altered it further.
Once again blame goes on ONI. Seriously when are they not gonna get away with everything?
Pause for a second.
Jul has nukes now, nukes. While I can imagine they’re gonna come in play for the seventh episode. That means someone is giving him weapons, stealing that sort of stuff would be very hard and very costly.
I guess perhaps there is some sort of backroom deal going on with our favorite Sangheili and perhaps some Insurrectionist?
> > So, what does everyone think will happen when the Covenant Remnant discover Jul is getting buddy-buddy with a human? I would love to see a Storm revolt later on in the season.
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> Nothing. The Covenant know about Halsey I’m sure Jul has information on her. Plus many of his men did serve back during the war with the humans during the Covenant/Human war. Jul was one of them since he was a former ship master. Halsey is too important for both sides and Jul would not kill her since she is the top scientist that knows of Forerunner tech.
Due to 'Mdama first forming the remnant on Hesduros (and I assume most of its followers are from there), they had no knowledge of the Schism, and would still be devoted to their worship of the Forerunner. At the end of Thursday War, it was made out that Jul was going to twist their faith/worship to his will; to find the Didact and stop Humanity. It would make little sense for him to tell them of the Schism (except for the lies of the San’shyuum).
If most of the remnant are still from Hesduros or other colonies in the same situation, it is unlikely they would have any idea of either the Schism or the alliance between Thel and the UNSC. Unless there are others from the former-Covenant… But if the followers are from Hesduros, then they will find out Jul has been lying to them/missed out vital information… D:
I’m thinking there will be a revolt. (If they are still form Hesduros) It would still be heresy for Jul to “team up” with Halsey, even if their beliefs aren’t shared by Jul. That means only three things; either Jul agrees to work with Halsey in secret, he refuses her offer of working together for fear of revolt, or Jul openly agrees to help and tries to get the rest of the remnant to agree. The first and third options lead to high a chance of revolt, I would have thought. Though I find the second option unlikely, as Halsey is the foremost Human expert of the Forerunners and their technology, let alone the fact that she is a “Reclaimer” and is able to access areas the Sangheili can’t. She would be a great asset to Jul and his goals.
In my opinion, if the remnant know he is teaming up with Halsey, there will be a revolt. If it is done in secret, then there is less chance.
Bah, I don’t know. Too much speculation for me. 
There won’t be a revolt if Jul is talking and teaming with Halsey he’s using her to achieve his goal yes but Halsey is much smarter than Jul. She knows Jul will use her but she’ll use him to get information. Even though she was kidnapped once by the Covenant in the past, the Covenant won’t kill her even if its a terrorist group. She is very valuable to any Covenant on their goals they can’t kill her or use a revolt just because she’s a human. She’s a very important human.
As for a revolt going on if he lied to them I see that unlikely because that colony is also gonna be held responsible for being a terrorist colony. UNSC knows this and they can inform Arbiter about this once if that happens the Arbiter will go to the council meeting for all states and the government there will decide what to do with Jul and the colony. Once it’s decided I can see Jul being hunted down and executed along with his men for being Sangheili terrorists. Sangheilis never in history would sink to that low as being terrorists to them it’s shameful and dishonorable. The colony would be monitored by Sangheilios if they see that the people living there would revolt against them. Since Jul doesn’t like the Arbiter I’m sure they wouldn’t like him ither and they would most certainly fight.
As for those nukes and stolen UNSC equipment and vehicles, Jul is probably getting supplies to use those weapons against the UNSC since his Storm Faction is only supported by Hesduros colony, its certian to say that they have limited supplies. Like any terrorist group you have to find supplies to go around and kill your enemy this also means stealing their weapons and supplies if you must. They’re probably dismantling the weapons and vehicles to make their own weapons their Covenant weapons since they need any material to make the vehicles and weapons. We can only guess but when you need materials to fight your enemy its best to steal from them. Jul will do anything to obtain his goal. Jul is very desperate to get rid of the humans and awaken the Librarian. He’ll do anything to get his goal to become a reality even if it means talking to Halsey.
> There won’t be a revolt if Jul is talking and teaming with Halsey he’s using her to achieve his goal yes but Halsey is much smarter than Jul. She knows Jul will use her but she’ll use him to get information. Even though she was kidnapped once by the Covenant in the past, the Covenant won’t kill her even if its a terrorist group. She is very valuable to any Covenant on their goals they can’t kill her or use a revolt just because she’s a human. She’s a very important human.
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> As for a revolt going on if he lied to them I see that unlikely because that colony is also gonna be held responsible for being a terrorist colony. UNSC knows this and they can inform Arbiter about this once if that happens the Arbiter will go to the council meeting for all states and the government there will decide what to do with Jul and the colony. Once it’s decided I can see Jul being hunted down and executed along with his men for being Sangheili terrorists. Sangheilis never in history would sink to that low as being terrorists to them it’s shameful and dishonorable. The colony would be monitored by Sangheilios if they see that the people living there would revolt against them. Since Jul doesn’t like the Arbiter I’m sure they wouldn’t like him ither and they would most certainly fight.
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> As for those nukes and stolen UNSC equipment and vehicles, Jul is probably getting supplies to use those weapons against the UNSC since his Storm Faction is only supported by Hesduros colony, its certian to say that they have limited supplies. Like any terrorist group you have to find supplies to go around and kill your enemy this also means stealing their weapons and supplies if you must. They’re probably dismantling the weapons and vehicles to make their own weapons their Covenant weapons since they need any material to make the vehicles and weapons. We can only guess but when you need materials to fight your enemy its best to steal from them. Jul will do anything to obtain his goal. Jul is very desperate to get rid of the humans and awaken the Librarian. He’ll do anything to get his goal to become a reality even if it means talking to Halsey.
The arbiter better get in the battle quickly or send off his best men to the battlefield, caus eI want to see thel kick some butt again.
but ontopic Having Elites playable will be a great thing for the franchise, I’d say bring the Elites back. for MP
> Jul is very desperate to get rid of the humans and awaken the Librarian. He’ll do anything to get his goal to become a reality even if it means talking to Halsey.
The now-defunct Covenant and this “Storm” (Us at Halopedia prefer “Covenant remnant”, due to the “Storm” label being, seemingly, a misinterpretation by the first OXM report and is not used in any later media) are not the same, they are completely different entities. It is unlikely that the remnant has the intelligence capability of the now-defunct Covenant, nor the information it once had. So it may be possible that they know of Halsey, but is equally possible they don’t. I was talking about a revolt due to Jul’s actions (as in needing the help and information of a Human), not Halsey’s. Though knowing Halsey, destroying this remnant of the Covenant would be a secondary objective after she has found the Librarian. And Jul is smart. If an alliance with Halsey would jeopardise his hold on his faction, he would not allow it. Though we still don’t know how much he wants to see the Librarian, he says he wants answers, but for what? Is it simply something to do once the Didact is “dead”?
Sanghelios was in a really bad way when we last saw it. Its intelligence and recon capability was, at the very least at a low capacity. The Eleventh hour reports say that the UNSC knew of a large movement of ships, etc., in Sangheili space, but it never stated they knew where. It is likely they know of Hesduros, but it is also possible they don’t. And I can’t see how Hesduros being a “terrorist colony” would lessen the chance of a revolt, really. Working with a Human is still heresy, whether they are “terrorists” anyway.
I agree that the remnant is Thel’s problem. And should be being dealt with. Though I’m still waiting for the third book of Kilo-five to give us more information on this subject. Its all speculation right now.
And this whole thing brings up so many retcons we have seen in this later media. In Thursday War we saw Avu Med ‘Telcam horrified at the sight of Jiralhanae terrorism; “Cowards, utter cowards. Why do they plant bombs? This is a filthy, sly habit they have learned from you humans. Terrorism.” and "No! This is not war! There is a line between catching the enemy off guard and being too cowardly to show yourself. I will not cross it. We fight for faith, we fight to restore what we were, to come close to knowing the gods’ intent for us again - not to make them shun us in disgust.", yet we see the likes of Parg Vol, a Sangheili terrorist. The exact thing that would horrify most Sangheili.
And the fact that these Sangheili are taking Human weapons? Am I right to remember that Sangheili, and most former-Covenant species, would rather die than take a Human weapon? It was heresy, and still should be in the eyes of the remnant. If the Humans are heretics, then why use their weapons? I could see Jiralhanae stealing nuclear weapons (in fact, they did), but not a Sangheili.
I’m quite enjoying this conversation though. It’s an interesting subject. 
Lol me too there is like soo many questions but all we can do is guess on our own since we read the books and played the Spartan Ops episodes. XD
However though Jul wouldn’t care and I’m sure his men were aware he was talking to Halsey the Covenant do have their ways on getting information on what they want in the past from humans and Jul is finding a way with Halsey. I’m sure he knows what she is capable of that’s why he needs her to find out about the Librarian and everything since Glassman escaped. Plus humans are the only ones that can acess Forerunner tech since their DNA prints are only unlocked if a species has 5 fingers and humans are the only ones that can do this. Every Covenant member including Jul’s men knows that they only had limited access to Forerunner tech but not the important ones.
I only see a revolt from Hesduros if the Arbiter and his people will monitor them because they are aiding Jul. However I am interest to find out what will happen if they find out that Jul lied to them like what their reaction would be. Will they start a war with the Arbiter? Will they aid Jul still or kill him if he lied to them? There’s a lot of questions that we are asking all we can do is wait and guess.
As for weapons and nukes on that subject Jul can become like a Brute copying off of them since they have little support from their people and other factions the only supplies they can possibly get is from Kig-yar, Hesduros, or Loyalists we simply don’t know where the supplies is coming from other than Hesduros. Most certainly Kig-yar will aid Jul since they are good at space pirating how ever since the civil war began with the Covenant there will be limited supplies for Jul. He may have to rely on getting UNSC weapons and manufacture his own some how. Plus if you recall the nukes could be used for the Covenant Carbine since the ammo is made of radioactive material.
> > Is there any news in sight that 343 will bring back playable elite’s?
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> Nope. Nothing. Nada. Nein
Perhaps we should start spamming 343. That seems to be the only way to get an answer from them. Sad I know=(
I know were all enjoying this coversation but we need to get back to the main subject, wich is getting Elites in Multiplayer Matchmakeing.
by the way, has anyone considered that the MP story doesn’t need to take place as a training simulation?
> > > Is there any news in sight that 343 will bring back playable elite’s?
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> > Nope. Nothing. Nada. Nein
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> Perhaps we should start spamming 343. That seems to be the only way to get an answer from them. Sad I know=(
What gives you that idea?
Looks at the customs people spamming and raging on these forums with only 200 pages
> > > > Is there any news in sight that 343 will bring back playable elite’s?
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> > > Nope. Nothing. Nada. Nein
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> > Perhaps we should start spamming 343. That seems to be the only way to get an answer from them. Sad I know=(
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> What gives you that idea?
> Looks at the customs people spamming and raging on these forums with only 200 pages
Beleive it or not, they have ben reading these forms. just because they can’t reply doesn’t mean there not reading it.
Dominion would be alot funner if you could have elites vs Spartans. And the whole mp maps would make more sense to I mean why the heck is there wraiths and ghosts and banshees but no elites no ones mentioned that I think. We might use thier weapons when we have to but the unsc has no need of covenant vehicles. And since war games is training it’d make more sense for Spartans to fight elites than eachother. Spartans don’t fight the same.
> > > > > Is there any news in sight that 343 will bring back playable elite’s?
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> > > > Nope. Nothing. Nada. Nein
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> > > Perhaps we should start spamming 343. That seems to be the only way to get an answer from them. Sad I know=(
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> > What gives you that idea?
> > Looks at the customs people spamming and raging on these forums with only 200 pages
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> Beleive it or not, they have ben reading these forms. just because they can’t reply doesn’t mean there not reading it.
I know they read it, but we could still get some reaffirmation that they care. They can say that they are listening, that I will believe, but do they even care about elites? Do they want to completely trash them from ever being playable? These are the things I would like to know.