> So was it just me or were we all hoping that halo 4 would allow us to fight along side sanghelli? (sorry if i misspelled)
I don’t think so, though we might be seeing the Elites in Halo 5 and fight along side them, and evan if Invasion is in or was going to be in Halo 4. Soemthing tells me it still won’t be the same without the Elites (invasion gametype specificly)
> > So was it just me or were we all hoping that halo 4 would allow us to fight along side sanghelli? (sorry if i misspelled)
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> I don’t think so, though we might be seeing the Elites in Halo 5 and fight along side them, and evan if Invasion is in or was going to be in Halo 4. Soemthing tells me it still won’t be the same without the Elites (invasion gametype specificly)
I certainly did. Story-wise and multi-player. We should be fighting alongside the Sangheili. To be honest, I thought that was the direction the Halo story was going, chronologically that is (Reach does not count, as the UEG and the entirety of the covenant were at war. Thus affecting multi-player).
I keep going back to Halo 3 for this. The fact that you fought alongside Sangheili (Or in my case, as the Sangheili) in both campaign and multi-player was the greatest point in Halo 3. But now its gone. Such a shame.
Does anyone else think Halo 4 is more of a sequel to Halo: Reach than Halo 3, Sangheili-wise?
I’m surprised that humanity didn’t offer the Elites to coexist with them. Yet, that may conduct more problems rather than creating a better alliance 
> > > So was it just me or were we all hoping that halo 4 would allow us to fight along side sanghelli? (sorry if i misspelled)
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> > I don’t think so, though we might be seeing the Elites in Halo 5 and fight along side them, and evan if Invasion is in or was going to be in Halo 4. Soemthing tells me it still won’t be the same without the Elites (invasion gametype specificly)
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> I certainly did. Story-wise and multi-player. We should be fighting alongside the Sangheili. To be honest, I thought that was the direction the Halo story was going, chronologically that is (Reach does not count, as the UEG and the entirety of the covenant were at war. Thus affecting multi-player).
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> I keep going back to Halo 3 for this. The fact that you fought alongside Sangheili (Or in my case, as the Sangheili) in both campaign and multi-player was the greatest point in Halo 3. But now its gone. Such a shame.
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> Does anyone else think Halo 4 is more of a sequel to Halo: Reach than Halo 3, Sangheili-wise?
Im sure were still fiends with most of the Elites. and to tell you, we arn’t fighting the arbiter’s elites, these are a Terrorist group (I think)
> > I certainly did. Story-wise and multi-player. We should be fighting alongside the Sangheili. To be honest, I thought that was the direction the Halo story was going, chronologically that is (Reach does not count, as the UEG and the entirety of the covenant were at war. Thus affecting multi-player).
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> > I keep going back to Halo 3 for this. The fact that you fought alongside Sangheili (Or in my case, as the Sangheili) in both campaign and multi-player was the greatest point in Halo 3. But now its gone. Such a shame.
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> > Does anyone else think Halo 4 is more of a sequel to Halo: Reach than Halo 3, Sangheili-wise?
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> Im sure were still fiends with most of the Elites. and to tell you, we arn’t fighting the arbiter’s elites, these are a Terrorist group (I think)
Yes. I know. We are fighting the remnants. I’ll try not to be insulted… xD
But even though we are fighting the remnants, it still doesn’t mean our negotiations are going well. The lack of a mention of the Arbiter and the separatists does not exactly raise my hopes. Remember, ONI seems to be against the alliance, and would prefer to simply wipe out the Sangheili (Note the arming of the Abiding Truth, and the back-up of poisoning Sanghelios’ crops), or weaken them beyond recovery. And ONI’s word cannot be easily ignored. 
> I’m surprised that humanity didn’t offer the Elites to coexist with them. Yet, that may conduct more problems rather than creating a better alliance
As am I. But, unfortunately, I guess a brutal 30 year war doesn’t exactly allow for a quick and painless co-existence.
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Has anyone else noticed the inconsistencies with the Sangheili in Spartan Ops? I may as well list it here, as we’re veering into story now. Plus, no other thread seems to have touched on it.
I’ll start with “Parg Vol”. Firstly, his name is wrong. Where is the apostrophe before “Vol”? He is a terrorist? How? I’m sure this is against Sangheili code. If If remember correctly, Avu Med 'Telcam states that Jiralhanae attacks were “Terrorism, a filthy tactic learned from you humans”. Surely Parg should be dishonoured, not having a high rank and a large following.
This may seem tiny, but it gets a little on my nerves. In various books, it is stated that when a weapon is drawn it “demands blood”. So why do the Minors in Jul’s following unleash their swords in “support” for him? I was a little confused when Ripa 'Moramee unleashed his swords in one Halo Wars cutscene in front of Regret. But I dismissed it due to Ripa’s dishonourable past. Just one thing that is a little confusing.
Anyone else noticed these? They’re by no means important, I just wanted to point them out.
> > > I certainly did. Story-wise and multi-player. We should be fighting alongside the Sangheili. To be honest, I thought that was the direction the Halo story was going, chronologically that is (Reach does not count, as the UEG and the entirety of the covenant were at war. Thus affecting multi-player).
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> > > I keep going back to Halo 3 for this. The fact that you fought alongside Sangheili (Or in my case, as the Sangheili) in both campaign and multi-player was the greatest point in Halo 3. But now its gone. Such a shame.
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> > > Does anyone else think Halo 4 is more of a sequel to Halo: Reach than Halo 3, Sangheili-wise?
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> > Im sure were still fiends with most of the Elites. and to tell you, we arn’t fighting the arbiter’s elites, these are a Terrorist group (I think)
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> Yes. I know. We are fighting the remnants. I’ll try not to be insulted… xD
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> But even though we are fighting the remnants, it still doesn’t mean our negotiations are going well. The lack of a mention of the Arbiter and the separatists does not exactly raise my hopes. Remember, ONI seems to be against the alliance, and would prefer to simply wipe out the Sangheili (Note the arming of the Abiding Truth, and the back-up of poisoning Sanghelios’ crops), or weaken them beyond recovery. And ONI’s word cannot be easily ignored.
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> > I’m surprised that humanity didn’t offer the Elites to coexist with them. Yet, that may conduct more problems rather than creating a better alliance
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> As am I. But, unfortunately, I guess a brutal 30 year war doesn’t exactly allow for a quick and painless co-existence.
The reaosn why he wasn;t mentioned was because he wasn’t the focus. im sure well se ehim soon. and if ONI is doing that I sense that humanity will be going back to fighting itself again.
> > > > I certainly did. Story-wise and multi-player. We should be fighting alongside the Sangheili. To be honest, I thought that was the direction the Halo story was going, chronologically that is (Reach does not count, as the UEG and the entirety of the covenant were at war. Thus affecting multi-player).
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> > > > I keep going back to Halo 3 for this. The fact that you fought alongside Sangheili (Or in my case, as the Sangheili) in both campaign and multi-player was the greatest point in Halo 3. But now its gone. Such a shame.
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> > > > Does anyone else think Halo 4 is more of a sequel to Halo: Reach than Halo 3, Sangheili-wise?
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> > > Im sure were still fiends with most of the Elites. and to tell you, we arn’t fighting the arbiter’s elites, these are a Terrorist group (I think)
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> > Yes. I know. We are fighting the remnants. I’ll try not to be insulted… xD
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> > But even though we are fighting the remnants, it still doesn’t mean our negotiations are going well. The lack of a mention of the Arbiter and the separatists does not exactly raise my hopes. Remember, ONI seems to be against the alliance, and would prefer to simply wipe out the Sangheili (Note the arming of the Abiding Truth, and the back-up of poisoning Sanghelios’ crops), or weaken them beyond recovery. And ONI’s word cannot be easily ignored.
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> > > I’m surprised that humanity didn’t offer the Elites to coexist with them. Yet, that may conduct more problems rather than creating a better alliance
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> > As am I. But, unfortunately, I guess a brutal 30 year war doesn’t exactly allow for a quick and painless co-existence.
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> The reaosn why he wasn;t mentioned was because he wasn’t the focus. im sure well se ehim soon. and if ONI is doing that I sense that humanity will be going back to fighting itself again.
He wasn’t the focus, but he deserves a mention. For continuity’s sake at least.
> > > > > I certainly did. Story-wise and multi-player. We should be fighting alongside the Sangheili. To be honest, I thought that was the direction the Halo story was going, chronologically that is (Reach does not count, as the UEG and the entirety of the covenant were at war. Thus affecting multi-player).
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> > > > > I keep going back to Halo 3 for this. The fact that you fought alongside Sangheili (Or in my case, as the Sangheili) in both campaign and multi-player was the greatest point in Halo 3. But now its gone. Such a shame.
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> > > > > Does anyone else think Halo 4 is more of a sequel to Halo: Reach than Halo 3, Sangheili-wise?
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> > > > Im sure were still fiends with most of the Elites. and to tell you, we arn’t fighting the arbiter’s elites, these are a Terrorist group (I think)
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> > > Yes. I know. We are fighting the remnants. I’ll try not to be insulted… xD
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> > > But even though we are fighting the remnants, it still doesn’t mean our negotiations are going well. The lack of a mention of the Arbiter and the separatists does not exactly raise my hopes. Remember, ONI seems to be against the alliance, and would prefer to simply wipe out the Sangheili (Note the arming of the Abiding Truth, and the back-up of poisoning Sanghelios’ crops), or weaken them beyond recovery. And ONI’s word cannot be easily ignored.
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> > > > I’m surprised that humanity didn’t offer the Elites to coexist with them. Yet, that may conduct more problems rather than creating a better alliance
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> > > As am I. But, unfortunately, I guess a brutal 30 year war doesn’t exactly allow for a quick and painless co-existence.
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> > The reaosn why he wasn;t mentioned was because he wasn’t the focus. im sure well se ehim soon. and if ONI is doing that I sense that humanity will be going back to fighting itself again.
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> He wasn’t the focus, but he deserves a mention. For continuity’s sake at least.
Im sure he’s still trying to help maintaint he threat. by the way the Elites do crops. I thought Elties wern’t good at farming. (according to frank’s ABCs in Halo)
> > > > > > I certainly did. Story-wise and multi-player. We should be fighting alongside the Sangheili. To be honest, I thought that was the direction the Halo story was going, chronologically that is (Reach does not count, as the UEG and the entirety of the covenant were at war. Thus affecting multi-player).
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> > > > > > I keep going back to Halo 3 for this. The fact that you fought alongside Sangheili (Or in my case, as the Sangheili) in both campaign and multi-player was the greatest point in Halo 3. But now its gone. Such a shame.
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> > > > > > Does anyone else think Halo 4 is more of a sequel to Halo: Reach than Halo 3, Sangheili-wise?
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> > > > > Im sure were still fiends with most of the Elites. and to tell you, we arn’t fighting the arbiter’s elites, these are a Terrorist group (I think)
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> > > > Yes. I know. We are fighting the remnants. I’ll try not to be insulted… xD
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> > > > But even though we are fighting the remnants, it still doesn’t mean our negotiations are going well. The lack of a mention of the Arbiter and the separatists does not exactly raise my hopes. Remember, ONI seems to be against the alliance, and would prefer to simply wipe out the Sangheili (Note the arming of the Abiding Truth, and the back-up of poisoning Sanghelios’ crops), or weaken them beyond recovery. And ONI’s word cannot be easily ignored.
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> > > > > I’m surprised that humanity didn’t offer the Elites to coexist with them. Yet, that may conduct more problems rather than creating a better alliance
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> > > > As am I. But, unfortunately, I guess a brutal 30 year war doesn’t exactly allow for a quick and painless co-existence.
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> > > The reaosn why he wasn;t mentioned was because he wasn’t the focus. im sure well se ehim soon. and if ONI is doing that I sense that humanity will be going back to fighting itself again.
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> > He wasn’t the focus, but he deserves a mention. For continuity’s sake at least.
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> Im sure he’s still trying to help maintaint he threat. by the way the Elites do crops. I thought Elties wern’t good at farming. (according to frank’s ABCs in Halo)
They aren’t. They are re-learning how to. After their reliance on other species and imports. But ONI (More specifically, Dr. Magnusson) was going to poison whatever Colo and Irukan crops were being raised/farmed.
He may have been. But that doesn’t mean he could not have been mentioned by name within the story. I guess I’m just going to have to wait until the third instalment of Kilo-five come out. I hope its soon! 
I see that now…
Energy rakes and hardlight shovels for cropping tools ftw!
Back on topic. to be honest I would love to see Elites as DLC for Halo 4, but I don’t think it was possible. but not because of what moa said, but because a chaarcter model for DLC has neevr ben done for an fps game before.
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I think it has been done before… I just can’t remember where…
On another note, Dice does weapons, does it not? So, theoretically, why would it be harder (aside from the body has to react etc.) to set up a new character as DLC?
I know weapons and a playable character with different hitboxes aren’t the same, but…
If dice can add weapons and skins, along with new jets and vehicles, it can’t be much more difficult to do a new player model…
Still I have yet to see if it worked very effciantly evan so I still think Halo 5 is the Elites best chance, Elites for DLC would be nice of course.
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> I think it has been done before… I just can’t remember where…
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> On another note, Dice does weapons, does it not? So, theoretically, why would it be harder (aside from the body has to react etc.) to set up a new character as DLC?
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> I know weapons and a playable character with different hitboxes aren’t the same, but…
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> If dice can add weapons and skins, along with new jets and vehicles, it can’t be much more difficult to do a new player model…
Same with ME3. I don’t see much difference with adding a Sangheili to multi-player than adding a Volus…
But then again, you would imagine that ME3’s multi-player isn’t as sophisticated as Halo 4’s (Possible slight understatement…).
> Still I have yet to see if it worked very effciantly evan so I still think Halo 5 is the Elites best chance, Elites for DLC would be nice of course.
The unfortunate truth.
Halo 5, ladies and gents, Halo 5… I hope they don’t go any farther with the ordinance or what not in Halo 5… or at least include the option to turn it off (and have an actual classic playlist.)
> > Still I have yet to see if it worked very effciantly evan so I still think Halo 5 is the Elites best chance, Elites for DLC would be nice of course.
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> The unfortunate truth.
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> Halo 5, ladies and gents, Halo 5… I hope they don’t go any farther with the ordinance or what not in Halo 5… or at least include the option to turn it off (and have an actual classic playlist.)
a completley diffrent subject my friend, you might wanna put that in a halo 4 fourms. and im sure there would be a playlist somewhere in Halo 5.
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> > I think it has been done before… I just can’t remember where…
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> > On another note, Dice does weapons, does it not? So, theoretically, why would it be harder (aside from the body has to react etc.) to set up a new character as DLC?
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> > I know weapons and a playable character with different hitboxes aren’t the same, but…
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> > If dice can add weapons and skins, along with new jets and vehicles, it can’t be much more difficult to do a new player model…
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> Same with ME3. I don’t see much difference with adding a Sangheili to multi-player than adding a Volus…
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> But then again, you would imagine that ME3’s multi-player isn’t as sophisticated as Halo 4’s (Possible slight understatement…).
From what I’ve’ seen ME3 is a “Third Person Shooter”. I said Character DLC has never ben done for a “First Person Shooter”
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> > > I think it has been done before… I just can’t remember where…
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> > > On another note, Dice does weapons, does it not? So, theoretically, why would it be harder (aside from the body has to react etc.) to set up a new character as DLC?
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> > > I know weapons and a playable character with different hitboxes aren’t the same, but…
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> > > If dice can add weapons and skins, along with new jets and vehicles, it can’t be much more difficult to do a new player model…
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> > Same with ME3. I don’t see much difference with adding a Sangheili to multi-player than adding a Volus…
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> > But then again, you would imagine that ME3’s multi-player isn’t as sophisticated as Halo 4’s (Possible slight understatement…).
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> From what I’ve’ seen ME3 is a “Third Person Shooter”. I said Character DLC has never ben done for a “First Person Shooter”
Is there much of a difference? I would not have thought so. As for the UI problem that I can see being brought up, ME3 also introduced scopes for weapons. I see little difference between adding a new UI for a scope and a UI for a player character in an FPS.
As I said, "you would imagine that ME3’s multi-player isn’t as sophisticated as Halo 4’s ". I was only pointing it out, not stating it as a reason why it would be possible with Halo 4. -.- Not sure if condescending or explaining… xD
i really hope you add all the missing things in halo 4 such as Elite game play and all of the weapons that where took out.also i am mostly upset about their being no halo 4 unsc air vehicles in multiply player. also should add back all of halo reach ground and air-vehicles, weapons, and other adds. i don’t care how many updates it takes just please add them cause halo is my favorite game ever like in reach i became a legend within 4-6 months and in halo 4 i am already a spartan rank 70. i say halo 4 is one of the best halos too be cause easy to kill and i think that it is really fun but if you add all the weapons and vehicles back and elite game play i bet more people will get halo 4 sales will go up and machinimas would rise again. also that people playing reach would join halo 4 and then you could beat bunjie call of duty in sales. ounce again please add the stuff above and i will play halo 4 all the time until the next halo comes out.
sincerely, masterchiefa0e/masterchief117N