Sangheili (Elites) In New Trilogy Matchmaking (Part 1)

Games Halo 5: Guardians
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> > Does your brother know exactly how the Halo 4 engine works and the extent they would have to go to, to make Elites playable in Halo 4?
> >
> > They’d have to redesign the HUD for all the maps they wanted Elites to be featured on, they’d need to actually update the .map files to add the Elite models to War Games, as well as a canon reason as to why Elites are in a Spartan IV training imulation.
> >
> > Let’s not forget the balance issues, after said canon reason, they’d need to make the Elites more powerful than the Spartan IVs like they are in single player.
> >
> > War Games focuses on your Spartan IV this time around and your career aboard the UNSC Infinity, hence why Multiplayer was renamed to War Games, you are involved with War Games (Spartan IV simulations) aboard the UNSC Infinity.
> >
> > It may be entirely & easily possible in other games, but in Halo, it is near impossible due to how much work has to go into it.
>
> It was done in Reach, why not in 4?
>
> Reach focused on mainly on NOBLE team, and the Spartan IIIs, and yet, Sangheili were still available. Balance issues were almost negated in Reach, the Sangheili would have increased height, increased speed, jump height, but the Spartans would have increased shield strength, health, etc. This is not a reason for their disappearance.
>
> <mark>Canon reasons? Did we ask as to why there are monitors in forge? Grifball becoming a game-type? FOTUS’</mark> description? Need I go on? From that, it would seem that forge and possibly custom games were not included in 343’s “multi-player canon”. And yet, still no sign of elites.
>
> Also, I must point out the idea of this “flood” in War Games. If Infinity can allow Spartan IVs to emulate Flood to take part in a simulation, what is to stop them from emulating a Sangheili?
>
> As for the game engine, if it was not possible for elites to be allowed into multi-player, would that not be a better way to tell us they were out? Instead of giving us false hope with a canon reason?
>
> I, personally, would not mind if elites were simply not in matchmaking. I got used to this in Reach. But not being able to show myself as my elite when playing in custom games and forge is quite upsetting. I have done so since Halo 2. <mark>Most of your reasons can be simply boiled down to a lack of trying</mark>, or that 343 simply does not care enough about the Sangheili Community, which I can’t, or won’t, believe is true.

okay here’s my answer to what is highlighted
1: those are in cause it’s what all the halo fan base wants, evan the Elite fans.

2: that could be one other reason why some people don’t kill elites in the swat game.

> Ive actually gained quite a hatred towards the UNSC please bring back our brothers!

Im okay with people hating spartans or elites, I just don’t like it when people pick on others for playing as spartans or elites.

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Guys, I think its about time we let it go.

I’ve been on this thread since day one, but clearly clearly we aren’t going to get the elites back.

Do I like the fact? No, heck no, but at this point there is nothing I can do about it.

Can I live with the fact, yes. Will the game be as fun? Probably not.

Guys, what say we bring this thread back when Halo 5 starts rolling around ok? Halo 4 releases tomorrow, and the game went gold weeks ago. Its to late. Nothing we can say or do will get elites into halo 4.

It’s over.

Just take the fact and move on to bigger and better things, and when Halo 5 rolls around in two years (just an estimate for when its announced) then we can bring this back.

Until then, just let it go.

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> > Does your brother know exactly how the Halo 4 engine works and the extent they would have to go to, to make Elites playable in Halo 4?
> >
> > They’d have to redesign the HUD for all the maps they wanted Elites to be featured on, they’d need to actually update the .map files to add the Elite models to War Games, as well as a canon reason as to why Elites are in a Spartan IV training imulation.
> >
> > Let’s not forget the balance issues, after said canon reason, they’d need to make the Elites more powerful than the Spartan IVs like they are in single player.
> >
> > War Games focuses on your Spartan IV this time around and your career aboard the UNSC Infinity, hence why Multiplayer was renamed to War Games, you are involved with War Games (Spartan IV simulations) aboard the UNSC Infinity.
> >
> > It may be entirely & easily possible in other games, but in Halo, it is near impossible due to how much work has to go into it.
>
> It was done in Reach, why not in 4?
>
> Reach focused on mainly on NOBLE team, and the Spartan IIIs, and yet, Sangheili were still available. Balance issues were almost negated in Reach, the Sangheili would have increased height, increased speed, jump height, but the Spartans would have increased shield strength, health, etc. This is not a reason for their disappearance.
>
> Canon reasons? Did we ask as to why there are monitors in forge? Grifball becoming a game-type? FOTUS’ description? Need I go on? From that, it would seem that forge and possibly custom games were not included in 343’s “multi-player canon”. And yet, still no sign of elites.
>
> Also, I must point out the idea of this “flood” in War Games. If Infinity can allow Spartan IVs to emulate Flood to take part in a simulation, what is to stop them from emulating a Sangheili?
>
> As for the game engine, if it was not possible for elites to be allowed into multi-player, would that not be a better way to tell us they were out? Instead of giving us false hope with a canon reason?
>
> I, personally, would not mind if elites were simply not in matchmaking. I got used to this in Reach. But not being able to show myself as my elite when playing in custom games and forge is quite upsetting. I have done so since Halo 2. Most of your reasons can be simply boiled down to a lack of trying, or that 343 simply does not care enough about the Sangheili Community, which I can’t, or won’t, believe is true.

For the game to be balanced, the Spartan’s shouldn’t have an advantage over the Elites and vice versa, in Reach, the Spartan’s and Elites had many difference like hitbox size, movement and overall, the weapons were not balanced, the Elites has piss poor weapons compared to the Spartans, for example, the Needle Rifle couldn’t wreck vehicles while the DMR could, same goes for the Focus Rifle and all that jazz, I know that is a thing of the past, but all these things need to be nailed on the head if they want to bring Elites back.

Forge is not canon, it isn’t a part of War Games on the Infinity menu’s, while Custom Games is.

Grifball is canon, oddly enough, it is a popular sport in 2557 if I remember correctly, but it does fit perfectly into simulations aboard the Infinity, the FOTUS description is still making me laugh to this day, although it may look like a joke, it is canon.

Flood in War Games is once again, entirely possible, it has been just short of five years since Halo 3, who’s to say mankind hasn’t encountered Flood again and Spartan IVs have been infected, because the fact the Flood exists in Halo 4 is full proof that we have, we just don’t know the story behind it yet, remember that the Flood models are infected Spartan IVs, meaning they can recover the bodies of said Spartan IVs and simulate it, because technically, it is still human, the flood infection just grew over the top of the body.

Elites however, no, they are taller than the Spartan IVs, so even trying to simulate a Spartan IV as an Elite wouldn’t work, remember these aren’t holograms or anything like that, these are real people.

It was entirely possible for Elites to be in multiplayer during the developer stages of the game, but now that the game comes out tomorrow, it would be a massive task to get Elites into Halo 4’s multiplayer because of how the game engine works and how they’d have to treat the updates, it isn’t as simple as copy and pasting the Elite model & HUD from Reach.

You were never given false hope, you were told from the start by Josh Holmes that there would be no playable Elites this time round, your career aboard the Infinity focuses of your Spartan IV, they never ever hinted at the chance of Elite DLC for War Games, if anything, you are living off false hope.

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> > It was done in Reach, why not in 4?
> >
> > Reach focused on mainly on NOBLE team, and the Spartan IIIs, and yet, Sangheili were still available. Balance issues were almost negated in Reach, the Sangheili would have increased height, increased speed, jump height, but the Spartans would have increased shield strength, health, etc. This is not a reason for their disappearance.
> >
> > <mark>Canon reasons? Did we ask as to why there are monitors in forge? Grifball becoming a game-type? FOTUS’</mark> description? Need I go on? From that, it would seem that forge and possibly custom games were not included in 343’s “multi-player canon”. And yet, still no sign of elites.
> >
> > Also, I must point out the idea of this “flood” in War Games. If Infinity can allow Spartan IVs to emulate Flood to take part in a simulation, what is to stop them from emulating a Sangheili?
> >
> > As for the game engine, if it was not possible for elites to be allowed into multi-player, would that not be a better way to tell us they were out? Instead of giving us false hope with a canon reason?
> >
> > I, personally, would not mind if elites were simply not in matchmaking. I got used to this in Reach. But not being able to show myself as my elite when playing in custom games and forge is quite upsetting. I have done so since Halo 2. <mark>Most of your reasons can be simply boiled down to a lack of trying</mark>, or that 343 simply does not care enough about the Sangheili Community, which I can’t, or won’t, believe is true.
>
> okay here’s my answer to what is highlighted
> 1: those are in cause it’s what all the halo fan base wants, evan the Elite fans.
>
> 2: that could be one other reason why some people don’t kill elites in the swat game.

I’m not sure you understood… When I said “Did we ask as to why there are monitors in forge? Grifball becoming a game-type? FOTUS’”, I meant that in terms of canon. I.e. Monitors in forge are highly unlikely to be canon, I doubt Infinity has managed to find many, if any, monitors. Grifball is also not likely to be canon. And FOTUS’ description is NOT canon. And yet, the reason that was given for the lack of sangheili was because “it wouldn’t be canon”. What makes a playable Sangheili so different?

I’m not sure you understand my other point either. But thats my fault, sorry. What I should have said was “Most of your reasons can be simply boiled down to a lack of trying, on 343’s part”. As in, it is most likely that it is possible for elites to be in multiplayer, and 343 has simply not tried to include them.

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> > > It was done in Reach, why not in 4?
> > >
> > > Reach focused on mainly on NOBLE team, and the Spartan IIIs, and yet, Sangheili were still available. Balance issues were almost negated in Reach, the Sangheili would have increased height, increased speed, jump height, but the Spartans would have increased shield strength, health, etc. This is not a reason for their disappearance.
> > >
> > > <mark>Canon reasons? Did we ask as to why there are monitors in forge? Grifball becoming a game-type? FOTUS’</mark> description? Need I go on? From that, it would seem that forge and possibly custom games were not included in 343’s “multi-player canon”. And yet, still no sign of elites.
> > >
> > > Also, I must point out the idea of this “flood” in War Games. If Infinity can allow Spartan IVs to emulate Flood to take part in a simulation, what is to stop them from emulating a Sangheili?
> > >
> > > As for the game engine, if it was not possible for elites to be allowed into multi-player, would that not be a better way to tell us they were out? Instead of giving us false hope with a canon reason?
> > >
> > > I, personally, would not mind if elites were simply not in matchmaking. I got used to this in Reach. But not being able to show myself as my elite when playing in custom games and forge is quite upsetting. I have done so since Halo 2. <mark>Most of your reasons can be simply boiled down to a lack of trying</mark>, or that 343 simply does not care enough about the Sangheili Community, which I can’t, or won’t, believe is true.
> >
> > okay here’s my answer to what is highlighted
> > 1: those are in cause it’s what all the halo fan base wants, evan the Elite fans.
> >
> > 2: that could be one other reason why some people don’t kill elites in the swat game.
>
> I’m not sure you understood… When I said “Did we ask as to why there are monitors in forge? Grifball becoming a game-type? FOTUS’”, I meant that in terms of canon. I.e. Monitors in forge are highly unlikely to be canon, I doubt Infinity has managed to find many, if any, monitors. Grifball is also not likely to be canon. And FOTUS’ description is NOT canon. And yet, the reason that was given for the lack of sangheili was because “it wouldn’t be canon”. What makes a playable Sangheili so different?
>
> I’m not sure you understand my other point either. But thats my fault, sorry. What I should have said was “Most of your reasons can be simply boiled down to a lack of trying, on 343’s part”. As in, it is most likely that it is possible for elites to be in multiplayer, and 343 has simply not tried to include them.

again monitors are in because forge haws become a big part of halo, and the multiplayer takes place on a UNSC ship “Elites are not present there”

and yes all the idea’s from the original post can work, but there going witht hat with halo 4 and the Elties won’t be out of MP forever, sens ean eplye stated and I quote "Elites arn’t playable “This Time” .

don’t take this the wrong way, I would love to have the Elites playable, I want them to be plaayble, but currently it isn’t possible.

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> For the game to be balanced, the Spartan’s shouldn’t have an advantage over the Elites and vice versa, in Reach, the Spartan’s and Elites had many difference like hitbox size, movement and overall, the weapons were not balanced, the Elites has piss poor weapons compared to the Spartans, for example, the Needle Rifle couldn’t wreck vehicles while the DMR could, same goes for the Focus Rifle and all that jazz, I know that is a thing of the past, but all these things need to be nailed on the head if they want to bring Elites back.
>
> Forge is not canon, it isn’t a part of War Games on the Infinity menu’s, while Custom Games is.
>
> Grifball is canon, oddly enough, it is a popular sport in 2557 if I remember correctly, but it does fit perfectly into simulations aboard the Infinity, the FOTUS description is still making me laugh to this day, although it may look like a joke, it is canon.
>
> Flood in War Games is once again, entirely possible, it has been just short of five years since Halo 3, who’s to say mankind hasn’t encountered Flood again and Spartan IVs have been infected, because the fact the Flood exists in Halo 4 is full proof that we have, we just don’t know the story behind it yet, remember that the Flood models are infected Spartan IVs, meaning they can recover the bodies of said Spartan IVs and simulate it, because technically, it is still human, the flood infection just grew over the top of the body.
>
> Elites however, no, they are taller than the Spartan IVs, so even trying to simulate a Spartan IV as an Elite wouldn’t work, remember these aren’t holograms or anything like that, these are real people.
>
> It was entirely possible for Elites to be in multiplayer during the developer stages of the game, but now that the game comes out tomorrow, it would be a massive task to get Elites into Halo 4’s multiplayer because of how the game engine works and how they’d have to treat the updates, it isn’t as simple as copy and pasting the Elite model & HUD from Reach.
>
> You were never given false hope, you were told from the start by Josh Holmes that there would be no playable Elites this time round, your career aboard the Infinity focuses of your Spartan IV, they never ever hinted at the chance of Elite DLC for War Games, if anything, you are living off false hope.

It seems I’ve either not explained well enough (Which is probably true xD ), or I’ve set it out in a stupid way.

If forge isn’t canon, then there is hardly a reason to not have an elite in it. Unless you say that if they don’t have an elite in most of War Games, then they shouldn’t be in any of it.

My points are that 343 should have tried (I find no evidence that they have, but if there is, please tell me.) to allow elites into multi-player from the start. Not that they should add them/find a reason to add them tomorrow.

I must be living of false hope then. But was that not my point? If 343 had simply stated that it was not possible to add an elite player into multi-player, I would not be. But, instead, they talked about “multi-player canon”, giving me the hope that maybe, just maybe, 343 would see the error of their ways and correct it in the future of Halo 4. Simply saying it wasn’t possible would have told me otherwise, that would be better than sitting here for the past 6 months hoping that they will.

But it seems I’m against popular opinion. So I’ll stop. I’ll just hope that I can play as my elite in Halo 5, or any other Halo games 343 is planning.

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My brothers, we cannot stand for this! We shall burn our desire into the hearts of these new “demons” and make it to where we return to our former Glory! The Sangheili shall return!

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> > For the game to be balanced, the Spartan’s shouldn’t have an advantage over the Elites and vice versa, in Reach, the Spartan’s and Elites had many difference like hitbox size, movement and overall, the weapons were not balanced, the Elites has piss poor weapons compared to the Spartans, for example, the Needle Rifle couldn’t wreck vehicles while the DMR could, same goes for the Focus Rifle and all that jazz, I know that is a thing of the past, but all these things need to be nailed on the head if they want to bring Elites back.
> >
> > Forge is not canon, it isn’t a part of War Games on the Infinity menu’s, while Custom Games is.
> >
> > Grifball is canon, oddly enough, it is a popular sport in 2557 if I remember correctly, but it does fit perfectly into simulations aboard the Infinity, the FOTUS description is still making me laugh to this day, although it may look like a joke, it is canon.
> >
> > Flood in War Games is once again, entirely possible, it has been just short of five years since Halo 3, who’s to say mankind hasn’t encountered Flood again and Spartan IVs have been infected, because the fact the Flood exists in Halo 4 is full proof that we have, we just don’t know the story behind it yet, remember that the Flood models are infected Spartan IVs, meaning they can recover the bodies of said Spartan IVs and simulate it, because technically, it is still human, the flood infection just grew over the top of the body.
> >
> > Elites however, no, they are taller than the Spartan IVs, so even trying to simulate a Spartan IV as an Elite wouldn’t work, remember these aren’t holograms or anything like that, these are real people.
> >
> > It was entirely possible for Elites to be in multiplayer during the developer stages of the game, but now that the game comes out tomorrow, it would be a massive task to get Elites into Halo 4’s multiplayer because of how the game engine works and how they’d have to treat the updates, it isn’t as simple as copy and pasting the Elite model & HUD from Reach.
> >
> > You were never given false hope, you were told from the start by Josh Holmes that there would be no playable Elites this time round, your career aboard the Infinity focuses of your Spartan IV, they never ever hinted at the chance of Elite DLC for War Games, if anything, you are living off false hope.
>
> It seems I’ve either not explained well enough (Which is probably true xD ), or I’ve set it out in a stupid way.
>
> If forge isn’t canon, then there is hardly a reason to not have an elite in it. Unless you say that if they don’t have an elite in most of War Games, then they shouldn’t be in any.
>
> My points are that 343 should have tried (I find no evidence that they have, but if there is, please tell me.) to allow elites into multi-player from the start. Not that they should add them/find a reason to add them tomorrow.
>
> I must be living of false hope then. But was that not my point? If 343 had simply stated that it was not possible to add and elite player into multi-player, I would not be. But, instead, they talked about “multi-player canon”, giving me the hope that maybe, just maybe, 343 would see the error of their ways and correct it in the future of Halo 4. Simply saying it wasn’t possible would have told me otherwise, that would be better than sitting here for the past 6 months hoping that they will.
>
> But it seems I’m against popular opinion. So I’ll stop. I’ll just hope that I can play as my elite in Halo 5, or any other Halo games 343 is planning.

Why would they place Elites in ONE game mode, why go to all that effort for it to be exclusive to one game mode, especially when the story had been set for the multiplayer for a while, I understand you want them to be playable, but for them to develop a new UI and player model that works with multiplayer, for it to be in one gamemode is a waste of resources.

343i wanted the Infinity to be a huge part of the Halo Universe, and by giving multiplayer a story and having Spartan Ops, they managed to do that, they would have added elites if they could, but the story approach they wanted simply didn’t allow it.

Like I said, it was ENTIRELY possible to add Elites into Halo 4’s multiplayer, but they didn’t because of canon, that was them telling you it won’t be possible in DLC, or so on and so forth, it wouldn’t fit into the story.

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> <mark>Why would they place Elites in ONE game mode, why go to all that effort for it to be exclusive to one game mode, especially when the story had been set for the multiplayer for a while, I understand you want them to be playable, but for them to develop a new UI and player model that works with multiplayer, for it to be in one gamemode is a waste of resources.</mark>
>
> 343i wanted the Infinity to be a huge part of the Halo Universe, and by giving multiplayer a story and having Spartan Ops, they managed to do that, they would have added elites if they could, but the story approach they wanted simply didn’t allow it.
>
> Like I said, it was ENTIRELY possible to add Elites into Halo 4’s multiplayer, but they didn’t because of canon, that was them telling you it won’t be possible in DLC, or so on and so forth, it wouldn’t fit into the story.

Is that not what I said? “Unless you say that if they don’t have an elite in most of War Games, then they shouldn’t be in any of it.”

It seems all of my points have been thrown right back at my face. I’m not sure what I expected really.

The Sangheili community was always just too small. If we had more of us, maybe this multi-player canon would not have meant the sacking of our elite player models. But a choice is choice. It just so happens that this one has almost ruined my multi-player experience.

Again, I can just hope that I can play as my elite in the future. And that I, and many others, will not have to go through this disappointment again.

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> I’d rather them play uniquely and be larger than the Spartans, like in Reach. Elites should be the terrifying Aliens they should be.

Unfourtinately recent enmies such as the Prometheon Knights, seems to make any chance of Elites being the monstrous horrors be highly unlikley.

> 343i wanted the Infinity to be a huge part of the Halo Universe, and by giving multiplayer a story and having Spartan Ops, they managed <mark>to do that, they would have added elites if they</mark> could, but the story approach they wanted simply didn’t allow it

maybe they wanted to, and everything lissted that they could do to make elites plaayble was possible, but thats not what they where going for.

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> > > > I asked one on the post in the thread on Halo 4 whom has played it early and the OP has said ‘No’ to Elites being as a playable character in Halo 4 period. Meaning they’re not in Custom Games nor Forge.
> > > >
> > > > To voice our rage on this if we want Elites be in Halo 4, let 343 hear our call and hopefully bring them to DLC! As you know the DLC map packs will be released soon starting this winter. If 343 won’t bring Sangheilis as playable character in Halo 4 on the DLC, <mark>we look forward to play them on Halo 2 Anniversary and Halo</mark> 5.
> > >
> > > the sentence I just Highlighted is the only way to play as Elites again, causr I don’t think playable character models (one in first person shooters specificly) has en done before. and I don’t think we can with current tech at the momment
> >
> > My brother is a game designer and he says BS! It is possible and it has been done before!343 just doesn’t care enough!
>
> Does your brother know exactly how the Halo 4 engine works and the extent they would have to go to, to make Elites playable in Halo 4?
>
> They’d have to redesign the HUD for all the maps they wanted Elites to be featured on, they’d need to actually update the .map files to add the Elite models to War Games, as well as a canon reason as to why Elites are in a Spartan IV training imulation.
>
> Let’s not forget the balance issues, after said canon reason, they’d need to make the Elites more powerful than the Spartan IVs like they are in single player.
>
> War Games focuses on your Spartan IV this time around and your career aboard the UNSC Infinity, hence why Multiplayer was renamed to War Games, you are involved with War Games (Spartan IV simulations) aboard the UNSC Infinity.
>
> It may be entirely & easily possible in other games, but in Halo, it is near impossible due to how much work has to go into it.

Do you know anything about Halo’s engine? Believe me they would have to purposely limit their game for it to be impossible! I mean people could mod it in to some degree so this should be no problem for 343!

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Wait a second, Were there no flood in campaign? If so… why are they in multiplayer when elites weren’t?

Anyways this whole thing is pretty stupid imo, they would still be using elites in wargames to train on and they would have fit perfectly in dominion mode.

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> Wait a second, Were there no flood in campaign? If so… why are they in multiplayer when elites weren’t?
>
> Anyways this whole thing is pretty stupid imo, they would still be using elites in wargames to train on and they would have fit perfectly in dominion mode.

I know dude I have a topic about this if you want to look it up.

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I have still not given hope for the return of elites! It is possible that they will do dlc, or failing that bring them back in 5 I mean they did it for armor lock and if they thought those haters were bad they had better brace themselves!
Also I can not stress enough that despite all this I do not hate spartans on the contrary I think they are awesome I just think elites are more awesome and do not get why people hate elites so much! But remember the racist yoinks petty victory will not last the Sanghieli will return!!!

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> I have still not given hope for the return of elites! It is possible that they will do dlc, or failing that bring them back in 5 I mean they did it for armor lock and if they thought those haters were bad they had better brace themselves!
> Also I can not stress enough that despite all this I do not hate spartans on the contrary I think they are awesome I just think elites are more awesome and do not get why people hate elites so much! But remember the racist yoinks petty victory will not last the Sanghieli will return!!!

in the Im sure the time when they return is Halo 5!

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I’m glad the broke-back dinosaurs are gone from match making.

KEEP them out.

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> I’m glad the broke-back dinosaurs are gone from match making.
>
> KEEP them out.

This just makes you sound like an -Yoink- and does not contribute to this thread. Elites will be back, I can feel it.

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> I’m glad the broke-back dinosaurs are gone from match making.
>
> KEEP them out.

your not a very varietive player are you?.

anyway on topic, they might return for Halo 5, DLC isn’t possible at this point cause of the possible technicle issues.

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Halo 2 Anniversary or Halo 5 will no doubt have them. You can’t recreate Halo 2’s multiplayer without them! Then it wouldn’t be Halo 2! And Halo 5, depending on how Karen Traviss decides to ruin my image of Sanghelios, could have them. Or another entirely original Halo expansion focusing only on Elites could work greatly as well! 343, you haven’t incredibly dissapointed me yet, so don’t start.

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> Halo 2 Anniversary or Halo 5 will no doubt have them. You can’t recreate Halo 2’s multiplayer without them! Then it wouldn’t be Halo 2! And Halo 5, depending on how Karen Traviss decides to ruin my image of Sanghelios, could have them. Or another entirely original Halo expansion focusing only on Elites could work greatly as well! 343, you haven’t incredibly dissapointed me yet, so don’t start.

the Elties are not in MP for 1 reasona and 1 only: Canon. best hope for Halo 5 because the the inclusion of eltie sin DLC isn’t simple. unless we’ve actuly ben in a Game Dev Company or Team, we have no clue on how difficult this is.

ontopic The Elites might get some news about whats going on. and if the flood come back, they will ahave to work with humanity again because there species would be under threat,