Sangheili (Elites) In New Trilogy Matchmaking (Part 1)

> > They can add playlists in other halo games without a major update, so i think they will be able to do the same in halo 4. We don’t nessesarily need to customize our elites, especially if we get to play as the Arbiter or some other sangheili character in the halo universe fiction. It would be a nice bonus but i honestly don’t know if it is possible or practicle. And why wouldn’t they want to work on an elite ops or sangheili based campaign add on. This forum show a lot of their fans would love something like that. It could be a great way to show what the Sangheili did after the covenant fell apart and show why some elites are working with other former covenant and fighting the master cheif. Not to mention they could make some good money off of it. I think it is very reasonable to think 343 will try and put playable elites in halo 4. Its something their fans want. If they don’t get on halo 4 we can still try for future halo titles.
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> > BRING ELITES BACK 343!!!
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> Take this from another pro-Sangheili player; you sir defy belief. The Sangheili will not be playable in halo 4, not now not ever. We are not the market they wish to interest with halo 4 so they simply don’t give a yoink.

It’s not that 343 doesn’t care, thats not it at all, elites arn’t playable because MP has a canon, did anyone evan hear that frank said at E3 that they wanted everything to matter in story?, plus they said the story would move along overtime, and Elites can be Playble then. im sure they wanted to make the Elites playable but they chose to have the MP take place on infinity, so elites arn’t present there.

> > > They can add playlists in other halo games without a major update, so i think they will be able to do the same in halo 4. We don’t nessesarily need to customize our elites, especially if we get to play as the Arbiter or some other sangheili character in the halo universe fiction. It would be a nice bonus but i honestly don’t know if it is possible or practicle. And why wouldn’t they want to work on an elite ops or sangheili based campaign add on. This forum show a lot of their fans would love something like that. It could be a great way to show what the Sangheili did after the covenant fell apart and show why some elites are working with other former covenant and fighting the master cheif. Not to mention they could make some good money off of it. I think it is very reasonable to think 343 will try and put playable elites in halo 4. Its something their fans want. If they don’t get on halo 4 we can still try for future halo titles.
> > >
> > > BRING ELITES BACK 343!!!
> >
> > Take this from another pro-Sangheili player; you sir defy belief. The Sangheili will not be playable in halo 4, not now not ever. We are not the market they wish to interest with halo 4 so they simply don’t give a yoink.
>
> It’s not that 343 doesn’t care, thats not it at all, elites arn’t playable because MP has a canon, did anyone evan hear that frank said at E3 that they wanted everything to matter in story?, plus they said the story would move along overtime, and Elites can be Playble then. im sure they wanted to make the Elites playable but they chose to have the MP take place on infinity, so elites arn’t present there.

Multiplayer isn’t supposed to have canon because it’s multiplayer.

> > > > They can add playlists in other halo games without a major update, so i think they will be able to do the same in halo 4. We don’t nessesarily need to customize our elites, especially if we get to play as the Arbiter or some other sangheili character in the halo universe fiction. It would be a nice bonus but i honestly don’t know if it is possible or practicle. And why wouldn’t they want to work on an elite ops or sangheili based campaign add on. This forum show a lot of their fans would love something like that. It could be a great way to show what the Sangheili did after the covenant fell apart and show why some elites are working with other former covenant and fighting the master cheif. Not to mention they could make some good money off of it. I think it is very reasonable to think 343 will try and put playable elites in halo 4. Its something their fans want. If they don’t get on halo 4 we can still try for future halo titles.
> > > >
> > > > BRING ELITES BACK 343!!!
> > >
> > > Take this from another pro-Sangheili player; you sir defy belief. The Sangheili will not be playable in halo 4, not now not ever. We are not the market they wish to interest with halo 4 so they simply don’t give a yoink.
> >
> > It’s not that 343 doesn’t care, thats not it at all, elites arn’t playable because MP has a canon, did anyone evan hear that frank said at E3 that they wanted everything to matter in story?, plus they said the story would move along overtime, and Elites can be Playble then. im sure they wanted to make the Elites playable but they chose to have the MP take place on infinity, so elites arn’t present there.
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> Multiplayer isn’t supposed to have canon because it’s multiplayer.

I wish that was true, but thats the only reaosn Elites are not in. if it didn’t have canon elites would’ve ben playable.

> > > They can add playlists in other halo games without a major update, so i think they will be able to do the same in halo 4. We don’t nessesarily need to customize our elites, especially if we get to play as the Arbiter or some other sangheili character in the halo universe fiction. It would be a nice bonus but i honestly don’t know if it is possible or practicle. And why wouldn’t they want to work on an elite ops or sangheili based campaign add on. This forum show a lot of their fans would love something like that. It could be a great way to show what the Sangheili did after the covenant fell apart and show why some elites are working with other former covenant and fighting the master cheif. Not to mention they could make some good money off of it. I think it is very reasonable to think 343 will try and put playable elites in halo 4. Its something their fans want. If they don’t get on halo 4 we can still try for future halo titles.
> > >
> > > BRING ELITES BACK 343!!!
> >
> > Take this from another pro-Sangheili player; you sir defy belief. The Sangheili will not be playable in halo 4, not now not ever. We are not the market they wish to interest with halo 4 so they simply don’t give a yoink.
>
> It’s not that 343 doesn’t care, thats not it at all, elites arn’t playable because MP has a canon, did anyone evan hear that frank said at E3 that they wanted everything to matter in story?, plus they said the story would move along overtime, and Elites can be Playble then. im sure they wanted to make the Elites playable but they chose to have the MP take place on infinity, so elites arn’t present there.

See, but there are so many ways around that. So many common sense explanations to give elites life on the infinity in different fields. They coould be holograms, simulations or just the last of the friendly elites.

There are more consoquences to leaving them out then putting them in to custom games. At this point I don’t even care if they aren’t in MM, I’m fine with the gone, but custom games are supposed to be fun. They are supposed to allow us to do anything, whether or not it makes any sense towards the game.

How many here when they were bored played insta kill SMGs on Halo 3 with superspeed and AC? It was just something to do.

And for those who don’t like the elites, If they were in custom games, would it affect you. Would it be so game changing that you would never, ever play custom games or if you did and somone played as an elite you would kick them out? If you answered yes, then you are probably lying.

Custom games and forge are for fun. They aren’t supposed to have an explanation as to why we are doing what we are doing. And to throw elits our the window of custom games because “They aren’t aboard the infinity” makes almost zero sense.

Please, I know its probably too late but rethink this. I know you have a lot on your plate, but to lower the custom game and multiplayer experience not to mention spit in the face of machinima makers is just terrible.

And its not like you care. You don’t owe us anything, we’re going to by the game either way. But honestly think about it. The mutliplayer experience is THE experience for a lot of people. Just goofing off with friends in customs to MLG, should the game not encompass it all?

The elites of this community are going to be left in the dust while everyone else has fun. A lot of them will have nothing to show for them in the game. They’ll still buy it, they’ll still play it, but the level of enjoyment we got from games like halo 2 and 3 will never be there again.

Why should the forgers (Of which I am a part of) get forge, but the elites not get elites?

The elites made an experience in halo 2. An experience no other game ever offered. You could be different, you could be something other than the stereotypical macho man invincible super human that you got to see in almost every other game out there.

To take that away from us is like a non physical kick to the balls.

-SilentA98

> > > > > They can add playlists in other halo games without a major update, so i think they will be able to do the same in halo 4. We don’t nessesarily need to customize our elites, especially if we get to play as the Arbiter or some other sangheili character in the halo universe fiction. It would be a nice bonus but i honestly don’t know if it is possible or practicle. And why wouldn’t they want to work on an elite ops or sangheili based campaign add on. This forum show a lot of their fans would love something like that. It could be a great way to show what the Sangheili did after the covenant fell apart and show why some elites are working with other former covenant and fighting the master cheif. Not to mention they could make some good money off of it. I think it is very reasonable to think 343 will try and put playable elites in halo 4. Its something their fans want. If they don’t get on halo 4 we can still try for future halo titles.
> > > > >
> > > > > BRING ELITES BACK 343!!!
> > > >
> > > > Take this from another pro-Sangheili player; you sir defy belief. The Sangheili will not be playable in halo 4, not now not ever. We are not the market they wish to interest with halo 4 so they simply don’t give a yoink.
> > >
> > > It’s not that 343 doesn’t care, thats not it at all, elites arn’t playable because MP has a canon, did anyone evan hear that frank said at E3 that they wanted everything to matter in story?, plus they said the story would move along overtime, and Elites can be Playble then. im sure they wanted to make the Elites playable but they chose to have the MP take place on infinity, so elites arn’t present there.
> >
> > Multiplayer isn’t supposed to have canon because it’s multiplayer.
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> I wish that was true, but thats the only reaosn Elites are not in. if it didn’t have canon elites would’ve ben playable.

Which makes no sense. How many ways have we personally come up with around this stupid canon nonsense?

I’ve come up with at least three, and there are many, many, many more that have been posted over and over agian within the 252 pages of this enormous thread.

> > > > > They can add playlists in other halo games without a major update, so i think they will be able to do the same in halo 4. We don’t nessesarily need to customize our elites, especially if we get to play as the Arbiter or some other sangheili character in the halo universe fiction. It would be a nice bonus but i honestly don’t know if it is possible or practicle. And why wouldn’t they want to work on an elite ops or sangheili based campaign add on. This forum show a lot of their fans would love something like that. It could be a great way to show what the Sangheili did after the covenant fell apart and show why some elites are working with other former covenant and fighting the master cheif. Not to mention they could make some good money off of it. I think it is very reasonable to think 343 will try and put playable elites in halo 4. Its something their fans want. If they don’t get on halo 4 we can still try for future halo titles.
> > > > >
> > > > > BRING ELITES BACK 343!!!
> > > >
> > > > Take this from another pro-Sangheili player; you sir defy belief. The Sangheili will not be playable in halo 4, not now not ever. We are not the market they wish to interest with halo 4 so they simply don’t give a yoink.
> > >
> > > It’s not that 343 doesn’t care, thats not it at all, elites arn’t playable because MP has a canon, did anyone evan hear that frank said at E3 that they wanted everything to matter in story?, plus they said the story would move along overtime, and Elites can be Playble then. im sure they wanted to make the Elites playable but they chose to have the MP take place on infinity, so elites arn’t present there.
> >
> > Multiplayer isn’t supposed to have canon because it’s multiplayer.
>
> I wish that was true, but thats the only reaosn Elites are not in. if it didn’t have canon elites would’ve ben playable.

We Elites can still play Halo 3 and Halo Reach until Halo 5 releases.

343!!! I’m a fan of playing as both elite and spartan and PLEEEEZ BRNG BACK ELITES!!!

I was thinking that the elite’s presence could be used in Spartan Ops. Because Season 1 has already been planned, maybe season 2 could have some of Allied elites come to help on Requiem

  1. Because it’s a forerunner planet and they would be naturally interested

  2. The reuniting of Arby and the Chief (The perfect duo)

  3. Elites vs elites. Confusing to who’s your buddy and who you’re planning to t-bag after killing them, BUT WHO CARES!!! IT WOULD BE FLIPPING AWESOME!!!

Anyway, back to why the elites would be in multiplayer. After allying with the Infinity, Elites would become interested in the Infinity’s training combat deck for the SIVs and would volunteer their greatest skilled warriors to train with the spartans.

DO WHATEVER YOU WANT, JUST PUT ELITES INTO HALO 4 MATCHMAKING!!!

> 343!!! I’m a fan of playing as both elite and spartan and PLEEEEZ BRNG BACK ELITES!!!
>
> I was thinking that the elite’s presence could be used in Spartan Ops. Because Season 1 has already been planned, maybe season 2 could have some of Allied elites come to help on Requiem
>
> 1. Because it’s a forerunner planet and they would be naturally interested
>
> 2. The reuniting of Arby and the Chief (The perfect duo)
>
> 3. Elites vs elites. Confusing to who’s your buddy and who you’re planning to t-bag after killing them, BUT WHO CARES!!! IT WOULD BE FLIPPING AWESOME!!!
>
> Anyway, back to why the elites would be in multiplayer. After allying with the Infinity, Elites would become interested in the Infinity’s training combat deck for the SIVs and would volunteer their greatest skilled warriors to train with the spartans.
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> DO WHATEVER YOU WANT, JUST PUT ELITES INTO HALO 4 MATCHMAKING!!!

You would tell whos your buddy by looking at the tag above them.

> I’ve come up with at least three, and there are many, many, many more that have been posted over and over agian within the 252 pages of this enormous thread.

And yes they can go with it, but prehaps they will consider using one of those ways in Halo 5.

I know one of the reasons elites aren’t in matchmaking is cannon, and after the demo, I can see how much the infinity will play a part in the story and don’t blame 343 for coming up with a lame excuse why elites are training with spartans just for the sake of getting them in there. But why can’t they come up with a good reason they are there? Numerous people have posted fair reasons they could be on the Infinity, and we are just plain people that don’t develop blockbuster games like halo 4. Surely with all the talent at 343 they could find a compelling story behind elites on the Infinity.

The bottom line is that elites NEED to be in halo. It just won’t be the same without them. Like SilentA98 said, it won’t offer the same experience as H2, H3, or even Reach. We won’t have as much fun as we would with them in.

BRING ELITES BACK 343!!!

> > 343!!! I’m a fan of playing as both elite and spartan and PLEEEEZ BRNG BACK ELITES!!!
> >
> > I was thinking that the elite’s presence could be used in Spartan Ops. Because Season 1 has already been planned, maybe season 2 could have some of Allied elites come to help on Requiem
> >
> > 1. Because it’s a forerunner planet and they would be naturally interested
> >
> > 2. The reuniting of Arby and the Chief (The perfect duo)
> >
> > 3. Elites vs elites. Confusing to who’s your buddy and who you’re planning to t-bag after killing them, BUT WHO CARES!!! IT WOULD BE FLIPPING AWESOME!!!
> >
> > Anyway, back to why the elites would be in multiplayer. After allying with the Infinity, Elites would become interested in the Infinity’s training combat deck for the SIVs and would volunteer their greatest skilled warriors to train with the spartans.
> >
> >
> > DO WHATEVER YOU WANT, JUST PUT ELITES INTO HALO 4 MATCHMAKING!!!
>
> You would tell whos your buddy by looking at the tag above them.
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>
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> > I’ve come up with at least three, and there are many, many, many more that have been posted over and over agian within the 252 pages of this enormous thread.
>
> And yes they can go with it, but prehaps they will consider using one of those ways in Halo 5.

Hope so, gonna miss the dinos…

And with the ODST helmet I saw… I’ll take default for this one.

> I know one of the reasons elites aren’t in matchmaking is cannon, and after the demo, I can see how much the infinity will play a part in the story and don’t blame 343 for coming up with a lame excuse why elites are training with spartans just for the sake of getting them in there. But why can’t they come up with a good reason they are there? Numerous people have posted fair reasons they could be on the Infinity, and we are just plain people that don’t develop blockbuster games like halo 4. Surely with all the talent at 343 they could find a compelling story behind elites on the Infinity.
>
> The bottom line is that elites NEED to be in halo. It just won’t be the same without them. Like SilentA98 said, it won’t offer the same experience as H2, H3, or even Reach. We won’t have as much fun as we would with them in.
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> BRING ELITES BACK 343!!!

They said the MP’s story will evolve over time, chances are they woould have Elites in Halo 5 with a gametype revolving around there civil war.

Woah. Ok I was looking for this thread and its been moved and not in the Halo 4 thread. Wtf? We’re voicing our feelings and opinions on Sangheili to return in Halo 4. Did anyone see that this is now moved into General Discussion? It’s weird for me because this topic has been on the Halo 4 discussion thread for months.

> Woah. Ok I was looking for this thread and its been moved and not in the Halo 4 thread. Wtf? We’re voicing our feelings and opinions on Sangheili to return in Halo 4. Did anyone see that this is now moved into General Discussion? It’s weird for me because this topic has been on the Halo 4 discussion thread for months.

Don’t know why it was moved to general discussion. But since we are discussing the trilogy and not specifically halo 4 anymore, general discussion was the only place remotely fitting.

I hate -Yoink- excuses 343 gives why Sagheili are not playable!! I mean honestly if the Infinity can energy swords,ghosts,and banshees it should be able to make Elites, and when you look at it that it kind of makes sense to include them in some way!! I will give Halo 4 a chance but if screw us again in Halo 5 then I am done with the franchise!!!

> I hate -Yoink!- excuses 343 gives why Sagheili are not playable!! I mean honestly if the Infinity can energy swords,ghosts,and banshees it should be able to make Elites, and when you look at it that it kind of makes sense to include them in some way!! I will give Halo 4 a chance but if screw us again in Halo 5 then I am done with the franchise!!!

Why did mess up my post???

> > I hate -Yoink!- excuses 343 gives why Sagheili are not playable!! I mean honestly if the Infinity can energy swords,ghosts,and banshees it should be able to make Elites, and when you look at it that it kind of makes sense to include them in some way!! I will give Halo 4 a chance but if screw us again in Halo 5 then I am done with the franchise!!!
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> Why did mess up my post???

typos so many typos

i was looking for this thread on 20 pages of the halo 4 topics…tell others that the thread has moved please.

I just noticed but this thread was moved to General Discussion? Why?

> I just noticed but this thread was moved to General Discussion? Why?

Elites are confirmed not to be in Halo 4, the topic is rallying for them in the future games, which don’t have sections yet and won’t for a while, it is more suited here.

> > I just noticed but this thread was moved to General Discussion? Why?
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> Elites are confirmed not to be in Halo 4, the topic is rallying for them in the future games, which don’t have sections yet and won’t for a while, it is more suited here.

Ah right then, did 343 give a full reason yet to why they were removed from matchmaking?