> > Isn’t there supposed to be some sort of reveal at some point? to “Scratch our itch”?
> >
> > If it’s not Elites, what the hell is it? lol
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> I may have a guess on this by thinking about it for a while when we have heard alot of times that Elites will not be in MP or Custom Games in H4. Well this leaves out only one way we can play as Elites: DLC. If that’s gonna be true it would be the first for Halo to have downloadable species to play as. Just sit and think about it everyone. How to get Elites in H4 if they are not in H4 to begin with when the game comes out? DLC is the only answer. I know there is alot of Halo players whom dislike Elites and constantly complain about it. So if 343 isn’t putting the Elites in H4 when the game comes out it has to be DLC. Only option there is for Elite players.
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> If this happens to not be the answer, then we have to wait until H5. This is my only guess and hope for Elite players. Anoj has stated in his recent video that there is hope for Elite players to “Scratch that itch”. So 343 has probably an idea for the players to get Elites to be a playable species in H4. So 343 is listening I hope we see a video sometime or confirmed report on the Elites. We have had very little information so far I hope there is more to come. Thoughts on Elites to be downloadable as DLC? I think it’s a good idea. Other games does it. Why not Halo do it too?
an intresting thought Alei but one thing, the only games regading downloaded player models was done so far by fighting games, and maybe gears, we don’t know if Halo has reached the point where we can download species models, Jeff may think it could be prometheans, but so far these guy’s are almost the forunner equivlent to flood.
(I think)
Now im not saying the elites as DLC is a bad idea, its great idea, im just not sure if its possible with 360 current technology.
> > > The vessel needs protection. You don’t walk through a bad neighborhood when you have a gang after you, and you don’t travel the galaxy unarmed when you aren’t on good terms with the Covenant.
> > > The UNSC does not need to train with the Elites, and the multiplayer takes place 6 months after the campaign, anyway. In WWII, The US did not send troops to Russia in order to train, despite their alliance.
> >
> > No, the Spartans are just too scared to fight Elites in live fire training.
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> That doesn’t make any sense. The only reason is that the UNSC Infinity is a purely Human ship, made to train Spartans. The Elites and Humans aren’t buddy-buddy yet, so putting them together in a ship for years on end with the sole purpose of fighting each other is a recipe for disaster.
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> I really am saddened that Elites are not playable, but I can’t see a way to work them into the canon. We can only hope that they will be in Halo 5 or 6.
Simulation friend, simulation.
Don’t you think that the moment the UNSC (and more specifically ONI) found out that they were to be fighting hostile elites they would want their spartans to be training against the most gruesome foe (besides hunters) that they’ed ever faced.
It makes sense to me, honestly. And it would make everyone happy, those who want the canon to stay good and those who want elites back. And if the elites were brought back glitch free and completely balanced, no one would have any good reason to complain.
> > > Isn’t there supposed to be some sort of reveal at some point? to “Scratch our itch”?
> > >
> > > If it’s not Elites, what the hell is it? lol
> >
> > I may have a guess on this by thinking about it for a while when we have heard alot of times that Elites will not be in MP or Custom Games in H4. Well this leaves out only one way we can play as Elites: DLC. If that’s gonna be true it would be the first for Halo to have downloadable species to play as. Just sit and think about it everyone. How to get Elites in H4 if they are not in H4 to begin with when the game comes out? DLC is the only answer. I know there is alot of Halo players whom dislike Elites and constantly complain about it. So if 343 isn’t putting the Elites in H4 when the game comes out it has to be DLC. Only option there is for Elite players.
> >
> > If this happens to not be the answer, then we have to wait until H5. This is my only guess and hope for Elite players. Anoj has stated in his recent video that there is hope for Elite players to “Scratch that itch”. So 343 has probably an idea for the players to get Elites to be a playable species in H4. So 343 is listening I hope we see a video sometime or confirmed report on the Elites. We have had very little information so far I hope there is more to come. Thoughts on Elites to be downloadable as DLC? I think it’s a good idea. Other games does it. Why not Halo do it too?
>
> an intresting thought Alei but one thing, the only games regading downloaded player models was done so far by fighting games, and maybe gears, we don’t know if Halo has reached the point where we can download species models, Jeff may think it could be prometheans, but so far these guy’s are almost the forunner equivlent to flood.
> (I think)
>
> Now im not saying the elites as DLC is a bad idea, its great idea, im just not sure if its possible with 360 current technology.
all i will do now, is just wait… it is litteraly all we could do…or we could try to reach the 5000 post count…and miraculously 343 decides to change there mind and rush them in just for us…or we could hope that scraching our itch will be a pleasant gift for us… and that last choice seems to me as to be the best of them
> > > > Isn’t there supposed to be some sort of reveal at some point? to “Scratch our itch”?
> > > >
> > > > If it’s not Elites, what the hell is it? lol
> > >
> > > I may have a guess on this by thinking about it for a while when we have heard alot of times that Elites will not be in MP or Custom Games in H4. Well this leaves out only one way we can play as Elites: DLC. If that’s gonna be true it would be the first for Halo to have downloadable species to play as. Just sit and think about it everyone. How to get Elites in H4 if they are not in H4 to begin with when the game comes out? DLC is the only answer. I know there is alot of Halo players whom dislike Elites and constantly complain about it. So if 343 isn’t putting the Elites in H4 when the game comes out it has to be DLC. Only option there is for Elite players.
> > >
> > > If this happens to not be the answer, then we have to wait until H5. This is my only guess and hope for Elite players. Anoj has stated in his recent video that there is hope for Elite players to “Scratch that itch”. So 343 has probably an idea for the players to get Elites to be a playable species in H4. So 343 is listening I hope we see a video sometime or confirmed report on the Elites. We have had very little information so far I hope there is more to come. Thoughts on Elites to be downloadable as DLC? I think it’s a good idea. Other games does it. Why not Halo do it too?
> >
> > an intresting thought Alei but one thing, the only games regading downloaded player models was done so far by fighting games, and maybe gears, we don’t know if Halo has reached the point where we can download species models, Jeff may think it could be prometheans, but so far these guy’s are almost the forunner equivlent to flood.
> > (I think)
> >
> > Now im not saying the elites as DLC is a bad idea, its great idea, im just not sure if its possible with 360 current technology.
>
> all i will do now, is just wait… it is litteraly all we could do…or we could try to reach the 5000 post count…and miraculously 343 decides to change there mind and rush them in just for us…or we could hope that scraching our itch will be a pleasant gift for us… and that last choice seems to me as to be the best of them
I guarente it will be along time ebfore we reach 5000 pages, still 5 or 6 is the best bet.
I prefer spartans over the elites. I thought they would have replaced them with the new enemy. DLC would not be a bad idea. Forge and Customs would have been a good thing.
I know I’m not the first to say this, but I really hope that they have some sort of Promethean as a playable species because I would definitely play as one. I now it’s unlikely, but I have no other idea as to how invasion would work in Halo 4.
> I prefer spartans over the elites. I thought they would have replaced them with the new enemy. DLC would not be a bad idea. Forge and Customs would have been a good thing.
I doubt it though, I don’t evan know if its possible for an fps to have Character DLC, and I know I said this before, but fighting games are the only ones that have done the character DLC.
> > I prefer spartans over the elites. I thought they would have replaced them with the new enemy. DLC would not be a bad idea. Forge and Customs would have been a good thing.
>
> I doubt it though, I don’t evan know if its possible for an fps to have Character DLC, and I know I said this before, but fighting games are the only ones that have done the character DLC.
Games that you can get skins in DLC like gears of war already had the skins on the disc. you purchasing the DLC just unlocks it. we won’t get to play with character skins in MM unless everybody you play with has them too. they could release an update with the dlc or restrict playing as elites to certain playlists you get with dlc.
> Games that you can get skins in DLC like gears of war already had the skins on the disc. you purchasing the DLC just unlocks it. we won’t get to play with character skins in MM unless everybody you play with has them too. they could release an update with the dlc or restrict playing as elites to certain playlists you get with dlc.
That’s not entirely true about Gear’s, When the second DLC for Gear’s of War 3 added RAAM, Tai and Minh, there was a mandatory Title Update for every player that added those skins to all the maps. So that those who dident purchase the DLC could still see the new model’s.
So yes technically the “DLC” was an unlock code for the models. But the Title Update beforehand literally added them to the game.
Gears player models are way more extensive and require more Memmory than Halo model’s. So if Gears can do it Halo can too.
> > Games that you can get skins in DLC like gears of war already had the skins on the disc. you purchasing the DLC just unlocks it. we won’t get to play with character skins in MM unless everybody you play with has them too. they could release an update with the dlc or restrict playing as elites to certain playlists you get with dlc.
>
> That’s not entirely true about Gear’s, When the second DLC for Gear’s of War 3 added RAAM, Tai and Minh, there was a mandatory Title Update for every player that added those skins to all the maps. So that those who dident purchase the DLC could still see the new model’s.
>
> So yes technically the “DLC” was an unlock code for the models. But the Title Update beforehand literally added them to the game.
>
> Gears player models are way more extensive and require more Memmory than Halo model’s. So if Gears can do it Halo can too.
Well there ya go, but that also depends on what the solution, but so far fighting games still did this with no problem. not to sure on shooting games though.
> > Games that you can get skins in DLC like gears of war already had the skins on the disc. you purchasing the DLC just unlocks it. we won’t get to play with character skins in MM unless everybody you play with has them too. they could release an update with the dlc or restrict playing as elites to certain playlists you get with dlc.
>
> That’s not entirely true about Gear’s, When the second DLC for Gear’s of War 3 added RAAM, Tai and Minh, there was a mandatory Title Update for every player that added those skins to all the maps. So that those who dident purchase the DLC could still see the new model’s.
>
> So yes technically the “DLC” was an unlock code for the models. But the Title Update beforehand literally added them to the game.
>
> Gears player models are way more extensive and require more Memmory than Halo model’s. So if Gears can do it Halo can too.
That’s a poor judgement, they are two completely different engines, stop making things sound so simple, trust me, when it comes to Halo, it isn’t.
343 Industries will make a substitute for elites in Multiplayer, whether it is additional Spartan IV armor, and accessories, or different species altogether, is unknown. Worrying about it and spamming this forum doesn’t really solve anything or get us closer to discovering what we want to know. Stay on topic please.
Yeah, at least add Elites for Halo 4 Custom Games. Lot’s of Machinimas use them. And I just thought of this. What would happen to Arby n the Chief if Elites aren’t put into custom games? Arby n the Chief has to be my favorite Halo machinima ever, and the Arbiter character always uses the Elite model. C’mon, 343, at least let the Elites thrive in customs.
Feel free to look through all the episodes if you want. If you look at the scenes where they’re on the Xbox, you can see that the Arbiter always uses the Elite model.
> > > Games that you can get skins in DLC like gears of war already had the skins on the disc. you purchasing the DLC just unlocks it. we won’t get to play with character skins in MM unless everybody you play with has them too. they could release an update with the dlc or restrict playing as elites to certain playlists you get with dlc.
> >
> > That’s not entirely true about Gear’s, When the second DLC for Gear’s of War 3 added RAAM, Tai and Minh, there was a mandatory Title Update for every player that added those skins to all the maps. So that those who dident purchase the DLC could still see the new model’s.
> >
> > So yes technically the “DLC” was an unlock code for the models. But the Title Update beforehand literally added them to the game.
> >
> > Gears player models are way more extensive and require more Memmory than Halo model’s. So if Gears can do it Halo can too.
>
> That’s a poor judgement, they are two completely different engines, stop making things sound so simple, trust me, when it comes to Halo, it isn’t.
unless one of us works at 343 or even some other 360 game developer, we can’t really say what they are or arn’t capable of. We are just giving examples of how other developers have given out characters in DLC and suggesting that 343 could do the same or something similar. right now we’re just discussing wether it is possible or praticle. I hope 343 is looking at this and realizing how big a part of halo sangheili are and are working on bringing them back.
> > > > Games that you can get skins in DLC like gears of war already had the skins on the disc. you purchasing the DLC just unlocks it. we won’t get to play with character skins in MM unless everybody you play with has them too. they could release an update with the dlc or restrict playing as elites to certain playlists you get with dlc.
> > >
> > > That’s not entirely true about Gear’s, When the second DLC for Gear’s of War 3 added RAAM, Tai and Minh, there was a mandatory Title Update for every player that added those skins to all the maps. So that those who dident purchase the DLC could still see the new model’s.
> > >
> > > So yes technically the “DLC” was an unlock code for the models. But the Title Update beforehand literally added them to the game.
> > >
> > > Gears player models are way more extensive and require more Memmory than Halo model’s. So if Gears can do it Halo can too.
> >
> > That’s a poor judgement, they are two completely different engines, stop making things sound so simple, trust me, when it comes to Halo, it isn’t.
>
> unless one of us works at 343 or even some other 360 game developer, we can’t really say what they are or arn’t capable of. We are just giving examples of how other developers have given out characters in DLC and suggesting that 343 could do the same or something similar. right now we’re just discussing wether it is possible or praticle. I hope 343 is looking at this and realizing how big a part of halo sangheili are and are working on bringing them back.
>
> BRING ELITES BACK 343!!!
No, that post earlier was not worded like that at all, it was implying that because of Gears of War of did it, Halo can do it, which from any person with a common sense would understand that Halo & Gears of War’s engines are nothing alike.
Considering Halo has used the same engine since CE but upgraded it hugely each time, I wouldn’t expect, in fact, I know it won’t be possible for Armour DLC or skin DLC like you guys keep rallying for.
I feel sorry for those who actually understand Elites won’t be coming to Halo 4 because guys like this who keep denying the solid evidence in front of them but keep on rallying with the stupid excuses are making this topic look like an absolute joke.
Once again, Halo is NOT Gears of War.
If you are going by that logic, then considering worms can be cut in half and survive, then automatically, humans can be cut in half and live, which is quite obvious they can’t.
> That’s a poor judgement, they are two completely different engines, stop making things sound so simple, trust me, when it comes to Halo, it isn’t.
Im stating the fact’s. I can almost guarantee if the developer put some effort into it Elite’s could very well be DLC on Halo’s engine.
The engine has evolved substantially with each new iteration, Halo 3-Reach and Reach-Halo 4 being the most substantial engine overhauls. However this video proves the developer has the capability to add damn well anything into the multiplayer space since Halo 3 at least.
Yes I know that was done in-house at Bungie. But if they really wanted to for whatever reason a Title Update could have updated Rat’s Nest with all those model’s for everyone.
Here’s another link for you. We see here a man bored with his developer kit at home. I cant speak for how long this took him. But he managed to add the default Plasma Rifle, the Elite model. Marine model’s. etc into the ODST Crater map, a map that was designed with only the ODST and enemy Covenant models in it’s files.
It was never a question of impossible/possible. But why/why not.