Sangheili (Elites) In New Trilogy Matchmaking (Part 1)

Games Halo 5: Guardians
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> We must play as Sangheili again. They should also be allies in the campaign again.

I say yes to all of these.

> > > Will they at least make them Reach-sized Elites? I was wondering why the Elites in H3 were short.
> >
> > Because they had to match the hitbox of the spartan.
>
> Which is confusing really. Master Chief, the basis for the SPARTAN II model in Halo 3, was 7’2. A Sangheili’s height is 7’4. Why even bother hunching the elites over? Simply making them the same size wouldn’t ruin anything. That’s what they did in Combat Evolved anyway…

I think he’s/She’s right.

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can you please sum up what happened in the past 7 days that I was away?

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> can you please sum up what happened in the past 7 days that I was away?

Well for one thing, they where confirming this type of game for invasion.

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I do not mind the fact there are no Elites in matchmaking. Though if they were to return suddenly, I would grin and smile. They look awesome and they are one of my “Go To” Responses when someone says “Halo”.

What I am most interested in is invasion.
It is one of the most popular playlists and very fun (However not fully balanced) and they said it would be returning, but how I wonder?

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> I do not mind the fact there are no Elites in matchmaking. Though if they were to return suddenly, I would grin and smile. They look awesome and they are one of my “Go To” Responses when someone says “Halo”.
>
> What I am most interested in is invasion.
> It is one of the most popular playlists and very fun (However not fully balanced) and they said it would be returning, but how I wonder?

I’m not sure where my position on Invasion in H4 is. For one thing, Invasion is my favorite playlist, but without Elites it wouldn’t be half as fun for me.

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> I do not mind the fact there are no Elites in matchmaking. Though if they were to return suddenly, I would grin and smile. They look awesome and they are one of my “Go To” Responses when someone says “Halo”.
>
> What I am most interested in is invasion.
> It is one of the most popular playlists and very fun (However not fully balanced) and they said it would be returning, but how I wonder?

This could be the only gametype where might play as promethean knights?,…NAH!!!

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> > I do not mind the fact there are no Elites in matchmaking. Though if they were to return suddenly, I would grin and smile. They look awesome and they are one of my “Go To” Responses when someone says “Halo”.
> >
> > What I am most interested in is invasion.
> > It is one of the most popular playlists and very fun (However not fully balanced) and they said it would be returning, but how I wonder?
>
> This could be the only gametype where might play as promethean knights?,…NAH!!!

If people were complaining about Sangheili being unbalanced, those guys would go nuts about how unbalanced Promethean Knights would be.

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> > > I do not mind the fact there are no Elites in matchmaking. Though if they were to return suddenly, I would grin and smile. They look awesome and they are one of my “Go To” Responses when someone says “Halo”.
> > >
> > > What I am most interested in is invasion.
> > > It is one of the most popular playlists and very fun (However not fully balanced) and they said it would be returning, but how I wonder?
> >
> > This could be the only gametype where might play as promethean knights?,…NAH!!!
>
> If people were complaining about Sangheili being unbalanced, those guys would go nuts about how unbalanced Promethean Knights would be.

Sangheili: OVER 2,2 metres
Promethean knights: 3,08 metres
Spartan IVs: about 1,8 - 1,9 metres.
Spartan IVs are so short that they can hardly reach a Sangheili’s chest.

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> > > I do not mind the fact there are no Elites in matchmaking. Though if they were to return suddenly, I would grin and smile. They look awesome and they are one of my “Go To” Responses when someone says “Halo”.
> > >
> > > What I am most interested in is invasion.
> > > It is one of the most popular playlists and very fun (However not fully balanced) and they said it would be returning, but how I wonder?
> >
> > This could be the only gametype where might play as promethean knights?,…NAH!!!
>
> If people were complaining about Sangheili being unbalanced, those guys would go nuts about how unbalanced Promethean Knights would be.

I don’t think we could play as a promethean Knight at all

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> > > > I do not mind the fact there are no Elites in matchmaking. Though if they were to return suddenly, I would grin and smile. They look awesome and they are one of my “Go To” Responses when someone says “Halo”.
> > > >
> > > > What I am most interested in is invasion.
> > > > It is one of the most popular playlists and very fun (However not fully balanced) and they said it would be returning, but how I wonder?
> > >
> > > This could be the only gametype where might play as promethean knights?,…NAH!!!
> >
> > If people were complaining about Sangheili being unbalanced, those guys would go nuts about how unbalanced Promethean Knights would be.
>
> I don’t think we could play as a promethean Knight at all

I hope not. I’m not a fan of the Promethean AI things. They seem more like a robot version of the Flood with their various forms.

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> > > > > I do not mind the fact there are no Elites in matchmaking. Though if they were to return suddenly, I would grin and smile. They look awesome and they are one of my “Go To” Responses when someone says “Halo”.
> > > > >
> > > > > What I am most interested in is invasion.
> > > > > It is one of the most popular playlists and very fun (However not fully balanced) and they said it would be returning, but how I wonder?
> > > >
> > > > This could be the only gametype where might play as promethean knights?,…NAH!!!
> > >
> > > If people were complaining about Sangheili being unbalanced, those guys would go nuts about how unbalanced Promethean Knights would be.
> >
> > I don’t think we could play as a promethean Knight at all
>
> I hope not. I’m not a fan of the Promethean AI things. They seem more like a robot version of the Flood with their various forms.

a spartan IV is almost half the hight of a Sangheili and a Promethean knight is taller than a Sangheili.

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Ok, I really have to ask. Why don’t any of you want to play as Spartans? Is there something wrong with Spartans? Why must you have another species?

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Signed.

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> Ok, I really have to ask. Why don’t any of you want to play as Spartans? Is there something wrong with Spartans? Why must you have another species?

May I ask you something? why must we have both the DMR and the Carbine?
see where I’m going with that?
or let’s go another direction: imagine if Elites were never in Multiplayer. think small, then keep thinking and you’re head will explode of what would’ve happened. first, start with Red vs Blue. if Elites werent in Multiplayer, Tucker wouldnt have gotten pregnant, Omega wouldnt have an evil plan with Tucker’s kid, and Tucker would have never had the Energy Sword, which would then make the Sandtrap tome never open, which then Church in a Monitor’s body would never have happened, which then CT would never have died. suddenly, Red vs Blue is now different.
see?

OT: Invasion is confirmed. And I doubt it’ll be Spartans vs Spartans (that ruins one of the basics of Invasion), so something has to be the opposition to the Spartans. Frankie has confirmed Elites are out (SuperSadFace), but something will scratch our itch (and it better make that itching spot bleed!), so what could it be? it could be Knights (doubt it, hitboxes would be soooooo bad, itd be cool to play as them, but their size and hitboxes…), so then what could it be? Forerunner? something else Promethean (they’re are 7 variants after all)? but honestly, play an AI with no personality/history or a species that you can like/relate/understand/care, which sounds better?

btw, nice new topic name and post :smiley:

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I do indeed hope that Sangheili will be playable in future Halo games. For me, they are an integral part of matchmaking, and Invasion/custom games are among the only reasons why I still frequent Reach’s multiplayer lobbies.

My first Halo campaign experience was that cutscene at the beginning of Crow’s nest, the Arbiter walking alongside Miranda, Johnson, and the Chief; from then, I knew I wanted to play as a part of his species.

I don’t personally see anything wrong with Spartans. I enjoy playing as the most iconic one in campaign, and I certainly enjoy the level of customisation provided for them in Reach. However, I was disappointed this wasn’t available to Sangheili-preference players… What I see most appealing as playing as an Elite is not the “unnecessary advantages” that many complain about, but the interesting society, history, armour, technology, physiology and alien-ness of their species.

If 343i are determined to listen to their fanbase, I hope they pay attention to this thread. It would be a shame if the species that brings be back time and time again to Halo is no longer there to beckon.

Oh, and chuck me on that list, too. Maybe as Nfar 'Qualom :wink:

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> Ok, I really have to ask. Why don’t any of you want to play as Spartans? Is there something wrong with Spartans? Why must you have another species?

…We do play as Spartans…We are forced to in Reach and in Halo 4, there will be absolutely no way to avoid it. Not everybody likes playing as Spartans all the time, though in Reach, whats the point if 99% of the time, we play Spartans. Why stick ourselves out as Elites if we are only going to be forced to play Spartans? Other then to show that we truly love Elites? In fact I have started receiving hate mail because I pick elites over Spartans. But if you play Halo 3 long enough, you will see tons of Elite players. I been in rounds where half of the players are Elites! People do love them, but we have been forced to pick Spartans only! And to all the other haters, the Elite community is growing, not diminishing because people are realizing that they will miss the Elites. You know the old saying " you won’t miss it until its gone". Amazing that Halo 4, which we thought would be the condemnation of Elites, will actually make it larger.

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> > I do not mind the fact there are no Elites in matchmaking. Though if they were to return suddenly, I would grin and smile. They look awesome and they are one of my “Go To” Responses when someone says “Halo”.
> >
> > What I am most interested in is invasion.
> > It is one of the most popular playlists and very fun (However not fully balanced) and they said it would be returning, but how I wonder?
>
> This could be the only gametype where might play as promethean knights?,…NAH!!!

well 343 has said that elite fans will be satisfied, maybe Elites will be playable in Invasion?

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> > > I do not mind the fact there are no Elites in matchmaking. Though if they were to return suddenly, I would grin and smile. They look awesome and they are one of my “Go To” Responses when someone says “Halo”.
> > >
> > > What I am most interested in is invasion.
> > > It is one of the most popular playlists and very fun (However not fully balanced) and they said it would be returning, but how I wonder?
> >
> > This could be the only gametype where might play as promethean knights?,…NAH!!!
>
> well 343 has said that elite fans will be satisfied, maybe Elites will be playable in Invasion?

he may have slipped the tounge on that one. he could’ve refered that to soemthing to scratch the itch.

> I do indeed hope that Sangheili will be playable in future Halo games. For me, they are an integral part of matchmaking, and Invasion/custom games are among the only reasons why I still frequent Reach’s multiplayer lobbies.
>
> My first Halo campaign experience was that cutscene at the beginning of Crow’s nest, the Arbiter walking alongside Miranda, Johnson, and the Chief; from then, I knew I wanted to play as a part of his species.
>
> I don’t personally see anything wrong with Spartans. I enjoy playing as the most iconic one in campaign, and I certainly enjoy the level of customisation provided for them in Reach. However, I was disappointed this wasn’t available to Sangheili-preference players… What I see most appealing as playing as an Elite is not the “unnecessary advantages” that many complain about, but the interesting society, history, armour, technology, physiology and alien-ness of their species.
>
> If 343i are determined to listen to their fanbase, I hope they pay attention to this thread. It would be a shame if the species that brings be back time and time again to Halo is no longer there to beckon.
>
> Oh, and chuck me on that list, too. Maybe as Nfar 'Qualom :wink:

I said this in a few pages back, and I’ll say it again, 343 loves there fan’s, every single population, no matter what, and from what I’ve herd they’ve ben makeing changes to the game according to feedback of its fans. and I know for certain the’ll be in Halo 5.

and hey funny story, I had a dream about a month ago that I was finaley playing a future Halo game, the graphics seemed like Halo 4, but I don’t think it was Halo 4, when I finaley get to the game, I went to the menu and saw a species option, and there was an Elite player model, sense I was so excited to start playing the game. that I didn’t take the time to pick an armor, there where awsome assassination’s with elites killing Elites and Spartans killing Elites, and Then I took a look at an asetic helmet, it almost looked like the Halo 3 one except it looked more menacing, and the blades looked realey sharp and curved near the tip. I told one of my friends about it, and he told me that it was some future deja vu or Something.

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I am so humbled by the support rallied around this thread. I want to thank everyone here for helping this thread continue to be recognized. Also, if you have not heard, last night we began our Reach re-creation of the Halo 2 Music Video “Monsters”. Aside from a few things that have to be taken care of on a local network for weapon lowering and a large scale battle scene at the end, the filming is complete. All that will be left is to get the clips to our capture card holder for official rendering. I will make sure this thread is mentioned in the credits to show that support for elites has not died out since Halo 2 but in fact has grown larger. The link to this machinima will be posted on this thread when completed, and I would request that you share this with as many Halo fans as possible. Expect to see the video in about a month’s time. Once again thank you all.

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Your Welcome friend, I think Spartans and Elites Should have equal rights.