> Not to mention Halo 1/2/3s, ODSTs and Reachs stupid container system of their engine which makes it nearly impossible to include new content…
>
> Bungie is outdated. Just like their engines. 
and thats why I think is impossible to put armor as DLC right now. infact I think all FPS games are unable to do that.
> To be honest, putting Elites in would take a lot of work.
>
> I don’t know much about it, but I know you’d have to create new animations for every weapon, create the new skin in it of itself, record Elite noises (such as death noises), and now, fit them into the canon.
>
> And Moa, I agree. I’m not keeping my hopes up; at this point I’ve kind of accepted the lack of Elites. <mark>I will, of course, hope for them in Halo 5</mark> (character model DLC is a little unrealistic). You likely won’t see the death of this thread anytime soon; I’ve been with it for a long while, and it has a propensity to survive.
>
> Cheers.
thats the spirite. patience is a virtue. that I think we all should learn.
> Not to mention Halo 1/2/3s, ODSTs and Reachs stupid container system of their engine which makes it nearly impossible to include new content…
>
> Bungie is outdated. Just like their engines.
It is possible that, since 343i has been working on Halo 4 since around Reach, they have a new, more versatile engine. they have to have seen how limited Bungie’s engine for Halo is, and how much the fans wanted.
> > Not to mention Halo 1/2/3s, ODSTs and Reachs stupid container system of their engine which makes it nearly impossible to include new content…
> >
> > Bungie is outdated. Just like their engines.
>
> It is possible that, since 343i has been working on Halo 4 since around Reach, they have a new, more versatile engine. they have to have seen how limited Bungie’s engine for Halo is, and how much the fans wanted.
possible, but most unlikely to happen. but i wish it does
tbh. seeing as matchmaking is supposedly happening on UNSC Infinity (last I knew anyway) it makes sense that aliens aren’t in it as individuals. That said, I think gametypes like Invasion should we have it, simply needs aliens. Also, as the Shag/Covies are sure to be in civil war, including them into whatever firefight type would also be a possibility.
All of this said, things like custom games and forge, we need the aliens for simple variance in our day. Plus, for machinima and any roleplayers, we know that aliens are simply needed for more play-ability.
Again with the above, I’d also like to see a deeper Elite/Alien customization. I liked where Reach went with Spartan permulation, I wanted to see the same with the Elites in Reach. So naturally, I’d like the same with H4.
Brothers!
Sorry about my recent absence from the forum… been on holidays 
Basically I would like to put fourth an argument against the notion that the absence of elites makes sense due to canonical reasons… which, as you will find, are invalid.
Consider the gametypes of Griffball or Infection for example…
Are these really military training exercises… what about the community gametypes such as:
- HaloBall
- Ghost Busters
- Bus Stop Kid
- Splockets
- Oddball (not community)
- Race (the insane forged tracks)
- FORGE
- Phoenix…
anyway you get the idea…
How can any of these gametypes, and the idea of forge, be considered cannon… if forge lets us create anything… then I highly doubt that its canonical to have Frank O Connors head as a map… despite the awesomeness…
The point is, the argument of Canonical sense in the abolition of elites is invalid… there are so many other things that break canon with NO EXCUSE…
and would the military really train their soldiers in playing superhugepinball3000.
I rest my case.
And urge the fight to continue.
>
There is also the argument that Halo 4’s War Games follows the career of your Spartan IV.
> >
>
> There is also the argument that Halo 4’s War Games follows the career of your Spartan IV.
Well that is the whole reason for why the elites have been removed according to 343i.
> > >
> >
> > There is also the argument that Halo 4’s War Games follows the career of your Spartan IV.
>
> Well that is the whole reason for why the elites have been removed according to 343i.
Indeed, if the MP’s story took place elsewhere Elies woul be Playable.
> Brothers!
> Sorry about my recent absence from the forum… been on holidays
>
> Basically I would like to put fourth an argument against the notion that the absence of elites makes sense due to canonical reasons… which, as you will find, are invalid.
>
> Consider the gametypes of Griffball or Infection for example…
> Are these really military training exercises… what about the community gametypes such as:
>
> - HaloBall
> - Ghost Busters
> - Bus Stop Kid
> - Splockets
> - Oddball (not community)
> - Race (the insane forged tracks)
> - FORGE
> - Phoenix…
>
> anyway you get the idea…
> How can any of these gametypes, and the idea of forge, be considered cannon… if forge lets us create anything… then I highly doubt that its canonical to have Frank O Connors head as a map… despite the awesomeness…
>
> The point is, the argument of Canonical sense in the abolition of elites is invalid… there are so many other things that break canon with NO EXCUSE…
> and would the military really train their soldiers in playing superhugepinball3000.
>
> I rest my case.
> And urge the fight to continue.
War Games
i never really used the sangheili i prefferd my spartan but id love to see the amount of armor pieces for them that they had for the spartans in reach i would probably use them then and someones probably mentioned this but war games is a simulation it would make sense to simulate fighting your enemy so why not have sangheili or brutes or any other spartan sized charaters
Well, here’s a thought. As the consumer of this game, we have a bit of sway on the next or future add-ons, because we are Paying them to make the next. Our money goes into the next title, and all of their paychecks. So I think the Elite community should demand that our money go into Elites and elite armor in Halo 5 MM MP, or we don’t buy Halo 5. So based on an old estimate by bungie, we make up 10% of the community. When 10% of the community says that it needs to be put in or changed, 343I will have to listen, or lose 10% of their profit (Which is no small deal for a company.)
Personally, it’s depressing to think I’m disappointed in a game nearly half a year before it comes out.
> Well, here’s a thought. As the consumer of this game, we have a bit of sway on the next or future add-ons, because we are Paying them to make the next. Our money goes into the next title, and all of their paychecks. So I think the Elite community should demand that our money go into Elites and elite armor in Halo 5 MM MP, or we don’t buy Halo 5. So based on an old estimate by bungie, we make up 10% of the community. When 10% of the community says that it needs to be put in or changed, 343I will have to listen, or lose 10% of their profit (Which is no small deal for a company.)
>
> Personally, it’s depressing to think I’m disappointed in a game nearly half a year before it comes out.
Implying all the Elite players won’t buy Halo 5, which isn’t true.
I love the Elites and wish they wont go but in H4 they would seem a bit, old fashioned. because
- new enemy!
- Plasma, we got it
- been in every halo game
> > Well, here’s a thought. As the consumer of this game, we have a bit of sway on the next or future add-ons, because we are Paying them to make the next. Our money goes into the next title, and all of their paychecks. So I think the Elite community should demand that our money go into Elites and elite armor in Halo 5 MM MP, or we don’t buy Halo 5. So based on an old estimate by bungie, we make up 10% of the community. When 10% of the community says that it needs to be put in or changed, 343I will have to listen, or lose 10% of their profit (Which is no small deal for a company.)
> >
> > Personally, it’s depressing to think I’m disappointed in a game nearly half a year before it comes out.
>
> Implying all the Elite players won’t buy Halo 4, which isn’t true.
Actually that part is actually true, Elite players are considering not getting Halo 4 anyways because of the lack of the elites being playable.
> > > Well, here’s a thought. As the consumer of this game, we have a bit of sway on the next or future add-ons, because we are Paying them to make the next. Our money goes into the next title, and all of their paychecks. So I think the Elite community should demand that our money go into Elites and elite armor in Halo 5 MM MP, or we don’t buy Halo 5. So based on an old estimate by bungie, we make up 10% of the community. When 10% of the community says that it needs to be put in or changed, 343I will have to listen, or lose 10% of their profit (Which is no small deal for a company.)
> > >
> > > Personally, it’s depressing to think I’m disappointed in a game nearly half a year before it comes out.
> >
> > Implying all the Elite players won’t buy Halo 4, which isn’t true.
>
> Actually that part is actually true, Elite players are considering not getting Halo 4 anyways because of the lack of the elites being playable.
I was mostley an elite player for Halo 3 and Reach, Im buying Halo 4, mostly because the new stuff I’d like to try. plus the confidence of making elites playable for Halo 5 assured that I will enjoy the game.
Well my argument stands as this: We will buy halo 4 under the condition that the money goes into Elites getting an equal part of MP as Spartans, including them being playable in the new spartan ops type mode, in Halo 5. If the condition is not met, then they won’t get another penny from us.
> > > Well, here’s a thought. As the consumer of this game, we have a bit of sway on the next or future add-ons, because we are Paying them to make the next. Our money goes into the next title, and all of their paychecks. So I think the Elite community should demand that our money go into Elites and elite armor in Halo 5 MM MP, or we don’t buy Halo 5. So based on an old estimate by bungie, we make up 10% of the community. When 10% of the community says that it needs to be put in or changed, 343I will have to listen, or lose 10% of their profit (Which is no small deal for a company.)
> > >
> > > Personally, it’s depressing to think I’m disappointed in a game nearly half a year before it comes out.
> >
> > Implying all the Elite players won’t buy Halo 4, which isn’t true.
>
> Actually that part is actually true, Elite players are considering not getting Halo 4 anyways because of the lack of the elites being playable.
The only people you know who won’t be buying Halo 4 due to Elites not being in is the people in this topic, your friends and your friends friends, which does not add up to 10% of the Elite community, which pre-orders for Halo 4 at a sky high level and over 100,000 above the next game, the removal of Elites and such players won’t even make a dent.
> Well my argument stands as this: We will buy halo 4 under the condition that the money goes into Elites getting an equal part of MP as Spartans, including them being playable in the new spartan ops type mode, in Halo 5. If the condition is not met, then they won’t get another penny from us.
You say that like your demands will actually get something changed. The Elite community is simply not large enough for them to warrant adding them to the game.
Am I the only one here who thinks that this thread should be locked or its creator should change the title?Because it’s pretty clear that playable Elites won’t be in Halo 4.
I mean,sure people can hope,but the chances are incredibly slim.
> > Brothers!
> > Sorry about my recent absence from the forum… been on holidays
> >
> > Basically I would like to put fourth an argument against the notion that the absence of elites makes sense due to canonical reasons… which, as you will find, are invalid.
> >
> > Consider the gametypes of Griffball or Infection for example…
> > Are these really military training exercises… what about the community gametypes such as:
> >
> > - HaloBall
> > - Ghost Busters
> > - Bus Stop Kid
> > - Splockets
> > - Oddball (not community)
> > - Race (the insane forged tracks)
> > - FORGE
> > - Phoenix…
> >
> > anyway you get the idea…
> > How can any of these gametypes, and the idea of forge, be considered cannon… if forge lets us create anything… then I highly doubt that its canonical to have Frank O Connors head as a map… despite the awesomeness…
> >
> > The point is, the argument of Canonical sense in the abolition of elites is invalid… there are so many other things that break canon with NO EXCUSE…
> > and would the military really train their soldiers in playing superhugepinball3000.
> >
> > I rest my case.
> > And urge the fight to continue.
>
> War Games
Oh, but an elite skin couldnt be included as they play, even just for lols just like teabagging.
Don’t use that excuse.