> Wow… Ok everyone. So I just looked Moa up, didn’t want to be the guy that did this… But he SUCKED at Halo 3. He probably blamed the ONE Elite on the other team every 3-4 games for the reason he couldn’t get above Major all the time!
>
> I understand you now, Moa. You are butthurt about players being better than you, and you fantasized that Elites were the reason why.
Please…let’s not start a flame wars in this thread, thanks.
I’m not a big Elite fan do to the fact in H3 they were barely customizable and Reach they weren’t at all. I Feel like having Spartans mixed with Elites is less fun. I mean do you see Russians mixed with SEALs in COD? /having Spartans fighting Elites or having Spartan fights and Elite fights separate like in Reach would be more ideal.As long as they make Elites just as customizable as Spartans I would like to see Elites in H4
> Wow… Ok everyone. So I just looked Moa up, didn’t want to be the guy that did this… But he SUCKED at Halo 3. He probably blamed the ONE Elite on the other team every 3-4 games for the reason he couldn’t get above Major all the time!
>
> I understand you now, Moa. You are butthurt about players being better than you, and you fantasized that Elites were the reason why.
No reason to stat flame.
> Wow… Ok everyone. So I just looked Moa up, didn’t want to be the guy that did this… But he SUCKED at Halo 3. He probably blamed the ONE Elite on the other team every 3-4 games for the reason he couldn’t get above Major all the time!
>
> I understand you now, Moa. You are butthurt about players being better than you, and you fantasized that Elites were the reason why.
Don’t bring skill level into this. I’m far from the best player out there. Moa is giving his opinion on the subject, his skill level has nothing to do with this.
Dont be an -Yoink-.
> Wow. Moa. You talk like the Humans are attacking Elites here. When it’s obvious the Elites in this alliance attacked the humans. I’m pretty sure ANYONE with HALF A BRAIN has already figured out that the Covenant in Halo 4 is just an expanded Servants of Abiding Truth from Glasslands, who ARE TRYING TO KILL THE ARBITER. And Oppose him in every way.
> <mark>Sorry, must have missed that part when you flew over to Requiem and questioned the Elites alliance with the humans on said planet, wait…</mark>
>
> This leaves the story perfectly open to my suggestion. And you’re implying it would take them years to incorporate Elites into the Simulation? The Simulation is in every respect just a FUTURISTIC VIDEO GAME. It doesn’t take years to program a new character model into a VIDEO GAME it would realistically at that stage of technology probably take less than a day of tinkering. “Scan an Elite” there’s the model. “Put Elite in pod, have pod adapt to Elite’s brain pattern like it would have had to for EVERY DIFFERENT SPARTAN” oh there you go. That Elite is now part of the simulation.
>
> <mark>I in no way mentioned it would take years to do such a thing, I said it would take extensive research, which is simply looking very deep into things, not necessarily taking years to do, you seem to talk about this like you are there, in 2557, onboard the UNSC Infinity, knowing everything the UNSC are capable of and what they can and can’t do, but it is a common fact that if Chief get’s out of Requiem and returns to Earth, he will detail everything about the Elites and how they were hostile against him, making the alliance between the Arbiter & his Elites w/ the humans even more uneven because they won’t understand the factions the Elites are in to an extent to excuse the attacks of the UNSC Infinity and its service men & women.</mark>
>
> And this talk of Humans not willing to share this technology with PROVEN ALLIES. Even when the alliance was even MORE uneasy in Halo 3, Sangheili and Humans shared their weaponry and technology for the sake of study, and learning on both sides. They have a common enemy, in fact the fact that these Elites are likely ALSO at war with the Covenant means they have TWO common enemies, and the Elites being able to kill their own kind who oppose them proves their trustworthiness to humanity. As well as their honour-bound society, just like Master chief, when they make a promise they keep it. Humans KNOW this.[
>
> <mark>Once again, the alliance was extremely unbalanced and with the next book, The Thursday War shows a faction pushing for all out war.</mark>
> <mark>From the ‘The Thursday Way’ summary:</mark>
> <mark>With a splinter group among the Sangheili pushing for warThe Elites as a whole are not going to be trusted any more than they are now, it is going to be made worse, like mentioned above, the normal soldiers like Chief don’t have the inside scoop on the Elites situation with ONI and the alliance.</mark>
> <mark>In Halo 3, the Elites wanted exactly what the humans wanted, the defeat of Truth to stop him from firing the rings and killing all sentient life in the galaxy, to which they did and the Arbiter returned home to deal the shenanigans at his home planet.</mark>
>
> I had a lot more to put into this but I just saw your recent post about me being bad at Halo 3 pop up and I am going to put effort in to replying to that more than this.[/h]
>
If you want to insult my lack of skill in Halo 3, then feel free to do so in Private Messages, I ain’t gonna let a peep out about what is in my inbox in there, but stat flaming is against the rules and your post is gonna get edited.
But I’ll say this, five years ago when I first got my Xbox, I was 11 and Halo 3 was my first game, and any one here knows, once your K/D is down for a good 1-2 years, it is impossible to get it back up to anything higher.
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> five years ago when I first got my Xbox, I was 11
So you aren’t even old enough to buy a Halo game without mommy or daddy…
> > Wow. Moa. You talk like the Humans are attacking Elites here. When it’s obvious the Elites in this alliance attacked the humans. I’m pretty sure ANYONE with HALF A BRAIN has already figured out that the Covenant in Halo 4 is just an expanded Servants of Abiding Truth from Glasslands, who ARE TRYING TO KILL THE ARBITER. And Oppose him in every way.
> > <mark>Sorry, must have missed that part when you flew over to Requiem and questioned the Elites alliance with the humans on said planet, wait…</mark>
>
> I’m sorry? YOU must have missed the part where Master Chief is talking about the Alliance in Halo 3, not the Alliance afterward that Hood an the Arbiter were making. You know, because he’s been in CRYO SINCE THEN. Also there’s the part where Cortana has NO IDEA WHATS GOING ON EITHER.
>
>
>
> > This leaves the story perfectly open to my suggestion. And you’re implying it would take them years to incorporate Elites into the Simulation? The Simulation is in every respect just a FUTURISTIC VIDEO GAME. It doesn’t take years to program a new character model into a VIDEO GAME it would realistically at that stage of technology probably take less than a day of tinkering. “Scan an Elite” there’s the model. “Put Elite in pod, have pod adapt to Elite’s brain pattern like it would have had to for EVERY DIFFERENT SPARTAN” oh there you go. That Elite is now part of the simulation.
> >
> > <mark>I in no way mentioned it would take years to do such a thing, I said it would take extensive research, which is simply looking very deep into things, not necessarily taking years to do, you seem to talk about this like you are there, in 2557, onboard the UNSC Infinity, knowing everything the UNSC are capable of and what they can and can’t do, but it is a common fact that if Chief get’s out of Requiem and returns to Earth, he will detail everything about the Elites and how they were hostile against him, making the alliance between the Arbiter & his Elites w/ the humans even more uneven because they won’t understand the factions the Elites are in to an extent to excuse the attacks of the UNSC Infinity and its service men & women.</mark>
>
> Again, the humans KNOW that there is a faction of Elites that oppose them. The war that MC and the Infinity are a part of is probably a well known thing, especially since ONI SET IT UP TO HAPPEN. You talk like the Elites are one thing, one mind. Like one Elite having an opinion means ALL Elites have that opinion. Not realizing that just like people, they have countries (states), they have factions, they have opposing mentalities and opinions. You are also talking like humanity in 2557 is too limited to look beyond simple racism. When a NERD SITTING AT HIS COMPUTER understands that they are a people, capable of every emotion/thought process humans are. And yes, you did. You implied that despite the fact that the UNSC built the infinity simulator, they don’t know how to use it. They DO, they MADE IT. They could incorperate normal humans, Elites, Jackals, Grunts, whatever they want into it. So your point was completely Moot.
>
>
>
> > And this talk of Humans not willing to share this technology with PROVEN ALLIES. Even when the alliance was even MORE uneasy in Halo 3, Sangheili and Humans shared their weaponry and technology for the sake of study, and learning on both sides. They have a common enemy, in fact the fact that these Elites are likely ALSO at war with the Covenant means they have TWO common enemies, and the Elites being able to kill their own kind who oppose them proves their trustworthiness to humanity. As well as their honour-bound society, just like Master chief, when they make a promise they keep it. Humans KNOW this.[
> >
> > <mark>Once again, the alliance was extremely unbalanced and with the next book, The Thursday War shows a faction pushing for all out war.</mark>
> > <mark>From the ‘The Thursday Way’ summary:</mark>
> > <mark>With a splinter group among the Sangheili pushing for warThe Elites as a whole are not going to be trusted any more than they are now, it is going to be made worse, like mentioned above, the normal soldiers like Chief don’t have the inside scoop on the Elites situation with ONI and the alliance.</mark>
> > <mark>In Halo 3, the Elites wanted exactly what the humans wanted, the defeat of Truth to stop him from firing the rings and killing all sentient life in the galaxy, to which they did and the Arbiter returned home to deal the shenanigans at his home planet.</mark>
>
> I had a lot more to put into this but I just saw your recent post about me being bad at Halo 3 pop up and I am going to put effort in to replying to that more than this.[/h]
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Again you are suggesting that humanity in 2557 is all of a sudden waterhead people who can’t THINK on their own. In WWII there were plenty of Germans who opposed -Yoink!-. Did the US restrict them? No, they actually let Einstein, a GERMAN SCIENTIST work for them.
Humanity is perfectly capable of understanding individual opinion and mentality, and pretending they are just too stupid to, when YOU CAN UNDERSTAND IT. It just limited. You are acting like Humanity is all ONE opinion, and ONE mentality, the same way you are treating the situation of Elites. Honestly, I wouldn’t EVER deem you fit to write a novel, or a fanfiction. Because your view of personality is skewed.
> > five years ago when I first got my Xbox, I was 11
>
> So you aren’t even old enough to buy a Halo game without mommy or daddy…
Are you trying to get this thread locked? jesus dude, stop flaming Moa.
I played my first halo game when I was eight.
> >
>
> If you want to insult my lack of skill in Halo 3, then feel free to do so in Private Messages, I ain’t gonna let a peep out about what is in my inbox in there, but stat flaming is against the rules and your post is gonna get edited.
>
> But I’ll say this, five years ago when I first got my Xbox, I was 11 and Halo 3 was my first game, and any one here knows, once your K/D is down for a good 1-2 years, it is impossible to get it back up to anything higher.
I apologize on behalf of legend over there. That was not cool of him at all.
> > five years ago when I first got my Xbox, I was 11
>
> So you aren’t even old enough to buy a Halo game without mommy or daddy…
No need to flame
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> > five years ago when I first got my Xbox, I was 11
>
> So you aren’t even old enough to buy a Halo game without mommy or daddy…
Please don’t be an immature -Yoink!-.
I know what you mean Moa, when I first played Halo 3, my KDr suffered to the point where I actually lost interest in my first Xbox Live account.
> > five years ago when I first got my Xbox, I was 11
>
> So you aren’t even old enough to buy a Halo game without mommy or daddy…
To be fair, he is now. The Halo games are rated 16+ in England.
Also, who actually bought their first M-rated game at 17?
> > > five years ago when I first got my Xbox, I was 11
> >
> > So you aren’t even old enough to buy a Halo game without mommy or daddy…
>
> Are you trying to get this thread locked? jesus dude, stop flaming Moa.
>
> I played my first halo game when I was eight.
Moa has been doing nothing but flame them. Honestly, I’m about to go through and report half his posts for suggesting that the elite fans are “greedy children”.
When he was disproven on several occasions, he should have just backed down. Every point he’s brought up is either self contradictory to something he mentioned, a very narrow, under speculated perception of the fiction or just a restate of an already debunked statement.
He’s running on nothing but pure distaste for Elites. And honestly, I think LEGEND ST had the right idea in claiming that most of the reason why probably had to do with his Halo 3 experience, sure we aren’t supposed to bring up stats. But it IS one of those situations where player performance has a direct impact on their opinion of the matter.
> > > > five years ago when I first got my Xbox, I was 11
> > >
> > > So you aren’t even old enough to buy a Halo game without mommy or daddy…
> >
> > Are you trying to get this thread locked? jesus dude, stop flaming Moa.
> >
> > I played my first halo game when I was eight.
>
> Moa has been doing nothing but flame them. Honestly, I’m about to go through and report half his posts for suggesting that the elite fans are “greedy children”.
>
> When he was disproven on several occasions, he should have just backed down. Every point he’s brought up is either self contradictory to something he mentioned, or just a restate of an already debunked statement.
>
> He’s running on nothing but pure distaste for Elites. And honestly, I think LEGEND ST had the right idea in claiming that most of the reason why probably had to do with his Halo 3 experience, sure we aren’t supposed to bring up stats. But it IS one of those situations where player performance has a direct impact on their opinion of the matter.
Stating an opinion = flaming.
Excuse us for being a little passionate when we are against something.
> He’s running on nothing but pure distaste for Elites.
Oh god here comes the Elite elitists.
This thread is done for. inb4 lock
> > five years ago when I first got my Xbox, I was 11
>
> So you aren’t even old enough to buy a Halo game without mommy or daddy…
Halo: Reach is rated a 16 right?
I believe I am quite capable now, but regardless, you seem to want to go off the Elite topic completely to try and insult me because you can’t back up your facts, let me tell you now, Legend is actually putting up a damn valid argument for his defence against the Elites and he is pretty -Yoink!- good at it, insulting me isn’t going to get you anywhere other than this topic locked.
> > > Wow. Moa. You talk like the Humans are attacking Elites here. When it’s obvious the Elites in this alliance attacked the humans. I’m pretty sure ANYONE with HALF A BRAIN has already figured out that the Covenant in Halo 4 is just an expanded Servants of Abiding Truth from Glasslands, who ARE TRYING TO KILL THE ARBITER. And Oppose him in every way.
> > > <mark>Sorry, must have missed that part when you flew over to Requiem and questioned the Elites alliance with the humans on said planet, wait…</mark>
> >
> > I’m sorry? YOU must have missed the part where Master Chief is talking about the Alliance in Halo 3, not the Alliance afterward that Hood an the Arbiter were making. You know, because he’s been in CRYO SINCE THEN. Also there’s the part where Cortana has NO IDEA WHATS GOING ON EITHER.
> >
> >
> >
> > > This leaves the story perfectly open to my suggestion. And you’re implying it would take them years to incorporate Elites into the Simulation? The Simulation is in every respect just a FUTURISTIC VIDEO GAME. It doesn’t take years to program a new character model into a VIDEO GAME it would realistically at that stage of technology probably take less than a day of tinkering. “Scan an Elite” there’s the model. “Put Elite in pod, have pod adapt to Elite’s brain pattern like it would have had to for EVERY DIFFERENT SPARTAN” oh there you go. That Elite is now part of the simulation.
> > >
> > > <mark>I in no way mentioned it would take years to do such a thing, I said it would take extensive research, which is simply looking very deep into things, not necessarily taking years to do, you seem to talk about this like you are there, in 2557, onboard the UNSC Infinity, knowing everything the UNSC are capable of and what they can and can’t do, but it is a common fact that if Chief get’s out of Requiem and returns to Earth, he will detail everything about the Elites and how they were hostile against him, making the alliance between the Arbiter & his Elites w/ the humans even more uneven because they won’t understand the factions the Elites are in to an extent to excuse the attacks of the UNSC Infinity and its service men & women.</mark>
> >
> > Again, the humans KNOW that there is a faction of Elites that oppose them. The war that MC and the Infinity are a part of is probably a well known thing, especially since ONI SET IT UP TO HAPPEN. You talk like the Elites are one thing, one mind. Like one Elite having an opinion means ALL Elites have that opinion. Not realizing that just like people, they have countries (states), they have factions, they have opposing mentalities and opinions. You are also talking like humanity in 2557 is too limited to look beyond simple racism. When a NERD SITTING AT HIS COMPUTER understands that they are a people, capable of every emotion/thought process humans are. And yes, you did. You implied that despite the fact that the UNSC built the infinity simulator, they don’t know how to use it. They DO, they MADE IT. They could incorperate normal humans, Elites, Jackals, Grunts, whatever they want into it. So your point was completely Moot.
> >
> >
> >
> > > And this talk of Humans not willing to share this technology with PROVEN ALLIES. Even when the alliance was even MORE uneasy in Halo 3, Sangheili and Humans shared their weaponry and technology for the sake of study, and learning on both sides. They have a common enemy, in fact the fact that these Elites are likely ALSO at war with the Covenant means they have TWO common enemies, and the Elites being able to kill their own kind who oppose them proves their trustworthiness to humanity. As well as their honour-bound society, just like Master chief, when they make a promise they keep it. Humans KNOW this.[
> > >
> > > <mark>Once again, the alliance was extremely unbalanced and with the next book, The Thursday War shows a faction pushing for all out war.</mark>
> > > <mark>From the ‘The Thursday Way’ summary:</mark>
> > > <mark>With a splinter group among the Sangheili pushing for warThe Elites as a whole are not going to be trusted any more than they are now, it is going to be made worse, like mentioned above, the normal soldiers like Chief don’t have the inside scoop on the Elites situation with ONI and the alliance.</mark>
> > > <mark>In Halo 3, the Elites wanted exactly what the humans wanted, the defeat of Truth to stop him from firing the rings and killing all sentient life in the galaxy, to which they did and the Arbiter returned home to deal the shenanigans at his home planet.</mark>
> >
> > I had a lot more to put into this but I just saw your recent post about me being bad at Halo 3 pop up and I am going to put effort in to replying to that more than this.[/h]
Again you are suggesting that humanity in 2557 is all of a sudden waterhead people who can’t THINK on their own. In WWII there were plenty of Germans who opposed -Yoink!-. Did the US restrict them? No, they actually let Einstein, a GERMAN SCIENTIST work for them.
<mark>Comparing humanity in the 1900’s to humanity in a video game in the 2550’s, should never be done, although fair argument.</mark>
Humanity is perfectly capable of understanding individual opinion and mentality, and pretending they are just too stupid to, when YOU CAN UNDERSTAND IT. It just limited. You are acting like Humanity is all ONE opinion, and ONE mentality, the same way you are treating the situation of Elites. Honestly, I wouldn’t EVER deem you fit to write a novel, or a fanfiction. Because your view of personality is skewed.
<mark>After the Elites massacred the humans on Earth, you wouldn’t think they would just drop all the grudges and suddenly be fine with Elites, yes I agree, they have different opinions, but all of humanity are not going to stand there and watch Elites be allies after everything they had done as a part of the Covenant in the past, it is just one of those human response things you know, if someone murdered your family and then suddenly your friend allied with them, you ain’t going to forgive and forget.</mark>
<mark>Anything I haven’t commented on I can agree for a compromise.</mark>
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Please stay on the subject at hand and refrain from personal derogatory accusations.
> Are you trying to get this thread locked?
Funny,but this thread WAS actually locked for a second or two…I’ve seen that little "lock"symbol on it when viewing the halo forums…
My guess is this is ><close to being locked.
> > > > five years ago when I first got my Xbox, I was 11
> > >
> > > So you aren’t even old enough to buy a Halo game without mommy or daddy…
> >
> > Are you trying to get this thread locked? jesus dude, stop flaming Moa.
> >
> > I played my first halo game when I was eight.
>
> Moa has been doing nothing but flame them. Honestly, I’m about to go through and report half his posts for suggesting that the elite fans are “greedy children”.
>
> When he was disproven on several occasions, he should have just backed down. Every point he’s brought up is either self contradictory to something he mentioned, a very narrow, under speculated perception of the fiction or just a restate of an already debunked statement.
>
> He’s running on nothing but pure distaste for Elites. And honestly, I think LEGEND ST had the right idea in claiming that most of the reason why probably had to do with his Halo 3 experience, sure we aren’t supposed to bring up stats. But it IS one of those situations where player performance has a direct impact on their opinion of the matter.
Trust me, if my Halo 3 experience was the reason for distaste in Elites, you would think I would have stopped playing Halo: Reach a long time ago.
I don’t hate Elites, I truly don’t, their imbalance in the multiplayer side and lack of canon explanation for Halo 4 is what pisses me off solely.
Link I believe has just posted about refraining from personal accusations, I advise you guys do just back off on them before it does get locked permanently, it was locked momentarily just then.