Sangheili (Elites) In New Trilogy Matchmaking (Part 1)

Games Halo 5: Guardians
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> > > > > > oh god as long as elites are in, im happy. end of balance disscussion…
> > > > > > any way, soooo, what is our goal now?
> > > > >
> > > > > At this point, some form of response from 343i would be nice.
> > > > >
> > > > > But we just keep going, hoping to see them in halo 4 as DLC, or halo 5.
> > > >
> > > > Stop living in denial. Elites are confirmed to not be in Halo 4 multiplayer.
> > > > We don’t even know if the Covenant plays a big enough role in the game to actually warrant their inclusion as a playable faction.
> > >
> > > Ok, well this I agree with.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Please stop living in denial; it has been confirmed from multiple official sources that Elites are not showing up on Infinity. The multiplayer is taking a canon approach, and with the Covenant as enemies once more, there is no way they would be training on a UNSC ship.
> > >
> > > Once again, I see you use a fact. I grant you that, but the latter is a point o veiw.
> > >
> > > “We’ve all run the simulations, they’re tough, but they ain’t invincible.” -Ssgt Johnson in regards to the scarab. So, if they had a simualtion in those days, and they didnt even have great technology but it was good enough to run a simulation on a covenant battle platform, then how come now with forrunner technology they cant do a simpl scan of elite combat techniuqes and render them in a holographic battle arena.
> > >
> > > Honestly, don’t give me canon nonsense.
> >
> > A scarab is extremely predictable, once they have actually been taken down, like the on in New Mombasa for example, they can take the Scarab apart, find weaknesses’, and how to take them down, to which they can run simulations on it, all Scarabs do is walk and walk, find enemy, kill, circle area until all enemies are killed, walk walk, repeat.
> >
> > Elites however, are living, breathing people, they are completely unpredictable because of the common sense and knowledge they have in a battlefield.
>
> They like anyone else have battle strategies. With forunner technology they can easily render an elites strategy, and while not perfect could somewhat duplicate the actions of a sangehili.
>
> Not only that, but they would easily have the technology to put a spartan and or soldier who has many encounters with elites and knows many of their strategies and battle tactics in control of an elite hologram to simulate for the spartans. The spartans battling would then have the oppurtunity to learn some basic defense strategy against elites, and the spartan controlling it would then learn how an elite would defend itself against a spartan.

Implying that Elites can be simulated with Forerunner technology, you are going off simple opinions here, all we know right now is that the UNSC Infinity being used to train Spartan IVs in simulated battlefields, not Elites, as confirmed by 343i, there are 17,000 UNSC personnel aboard the UNSC Infinity, among those are Spartan IVs and Orbital Drop Shock Troopers and other UNSC personnel, likely just marines, there is NO confirmed Elite presence on the UNSC Infinity.

As for this playable Elites theory as DLC, they aren’t going to ruin any aspect of canon for multiplayer to make you happy, making Elites playable would ruin any sort of canon explanation behind multiplayer because as far as we know, they are enemies and how I believe in Glasslands that ONI has practically forced the Elites to hate the humans again after the uneasy alliance from the Arbiters elites, only backs that up.

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> > > > oh god as long as elites are in, im happy. end of balance disscussion…
> > > > any way, soooo, what is our goal now?
> > >
> > > At this point, some form of response from 343i would be nice.
> > >
> > > But we just keep going, hoping to see them in halo 4 as DLC, or halo 5.
> >
> > Stop living in denial. Elites are confirmed to not be in Halo 4 multiplayer.
> > We don’t even know if the Covenant plays a big enough role in the game to actually warrant their inclusion as a playable faction.
> >
> > Please stop living in denial; it has been confirmed from multiple official sources that Elites are not showing up on Infinity. The multiplayer is taking a canon approach, and with the Covenant as enemies once more, there is no way they would be training on a UNSC ship.
>
> <mark>I agree, this thread has been on the front page now for far too long, claiming elites are ‘neither confirmed or denied to be playable’.</mark> FYI they have been confirmed out of matchmaking, so from now on any posts in this thread is basically blind ignorance and trolling.
>
> In regards to elites being playable in campaign, perhaps as the arbiter Thel Vadam, it is possible. But that is not what this thread is about and so is pointless continuing.
>
> Someone should contact the OP so he can change it from ‘not confirmed or denied’ to Officially Denied by 343. The Prometheans are the only non-Spartan playable charecters in Halo 4. This is Fact. Noone can change that.

Why are you reading the first page. This thread was posted nearly three months ago.

It is not pointless continuing. Much of this community would like to see the speceis other than human playable in multiplayer like they have been since halo 2. Whether or not we get them in this game is no longer the issue. Now we are trying to show 343i we still want them. By posting here you keep this thread on the front page. If this thread irks you so much why do you click on it? Why do you come here to tell us simply to give up? This literally doesnt affect you in any way.

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> The Prometheans are the only non-Spartan playable charecters in Halo 4. This is Fact. Noone can change that.

Prometheans are not confirmed to be playable, only Spartan IVs, unless I’ve missed some sort of confirmation?

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> > Why not give you canon nonsense? The multiplayer is based on canon.
> > Stop living in denial…
>
> How bout stop worrying about us living in denial and just accept that we are not going to change our mind’s when it comes to wanting Elite’s to come back at some point as playable characters. <mark>They will be brought back, they will have balance, and they will do just fine.</mark> I am not saying when they will be back, but it will be someday at least…

Have you got a source to back this up?

We know NOTHING on Halo 5 or 6, only Halo 4, you simply hope they are brought as DLC for Halo 4 now, that is all you can hope for, which would completely ruin any sort of canon behind multiplayer like I am constantly saying now.

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> > > > > > > oh god as long as elites are in, im happy. end of balance disscussion…
> > > > > > > any way, soooo, what is our goal now?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At this point, some form of response from 343i would be nice.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But we just keep going, hoping to see them in halo 4 as DLC, or halo 5.
> > > > >
> > > > > Stop living in denial. Elites are confirmed to not be in Halo 4 multiplayer.
> > > > > We don’t even know if the Covenant plays a big enough role in the game to actually warrant their inclusion as a playable faction.
> > > >
> > > > Ok, well this I agree with.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Please stop living in denial; it has been confirmed from multiple official sources that Elites are not showing up on Infinity. The multiplayer is taking a canon approach, and with the Covenant as enemies once more, there is no way they would be training on a UNSC ship.
> > > >
> > > > Once again, I see you use a fact. I grant you that, but the latter is a point o veiw.
> > > >
> > > > “We’ve all run the simulations, they’re tough, but they ain’t invincible.” -Ssgt Johnson in regards to the scarab. So, if they had a simualtion in those days, and they didnt even have great technology but it was good enough to run a simulation on a covenant battle platform, then how come now with forrunner technology they cant do a simpl scan of elite combat techniuqes and render them in a holographic battle arena.
> > > >
> > > > Honestly, don’t give me canon nonsense.
> > >
> > > A scarab is extremely predictable, once they have actually been taken down, like the on in New Mombasa for example, they can take the Scarab apart, find weaknesses’, and how to take them down, to which they can run simulations on it, all Scarabs do is walk and walk, find enemy, kill, circle area until all enemies are killed, walk walk, repeat.
> > >
> > > Elites however, are living, breathing people, they are completely unpredictable because of the common sense and knowledge they have in a battlefield.
> >
> > They like anyone else have battle strategies. With forunner technology they can easily render an elites strategy, and while not perfect could somewhat duplicate the actions of a sangehili.
> >
> > Not only that, but they would easily have the technology to put a spartan and or soldier who has many encounters with elites and knows many of their strategies and battle tactics in control of an elite hologram to simulate for the spartans. The spartans battling would then have the oppurtunity to learn some basic defense strategy against elites, and the spartan controlling it would then learn how an elite would defend itself against a spartan.
>
> Implying that Elites can be simulated with Forerunner technology, you are going off simple opinions here, all we know right now is that the UNSC Infinity being used to train Spartan IVs in simulated battlefields, not Elites, as confirmed by 343i, there are 17,000 UNSC personnel aboard the UNSC Infinity, among those are Spartan IVs and Orbital Drop Shock Troopers and other UNSC personnel, likely just marines, there is NO confirmed Elite presence on the UNSC Infinity.

I am going off the simple fact that if they could make a simulation of a scarab (which is alive I must point out as it is controlled my legcolo woms.) when they had worse technology, why not with much more advanced technology would they not be able to create such a simulation of a minor elite battle tactic. I garantee they could easily do a human simulation given time and enough work.

I never said there were elites confirmed on the infinity, nor did I suggest it.

> As for this playable Elites theory as DLC, they aren’t going to ruin any aspect of canon for multiplayer to make you happy, making Elites playable would ruin any sort of canon explanation behind multiplayer because as far as we know, they are enemies and how I believe in Glasslands that ONI has practically forced the Elites to hate the humans again after the uneasy alliance from the Arbiters elites, only backs that up.

I’m going to point out that including the energy sword ruins any canon multiplayer aspect. Only one race has ever acutally weilded that weapon, and that race is not in multiplayer.

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> > > > This thread is here to discuss the possibility of elites in halo 4 matchmaking. If you would like to discuss glitches and weapon unbalances involving the elites, please do so in their respective forums.
> > > >
> > > > We here do not want this thread locked.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance
> > > >
> > > > Silent
> > >
> > > But in order to discuss whether elites should be in Halo 4 MM or not we must address the issues that come with them.
> >
> > Issues in previous titles created by a completely different development team in a game that no longer even runs on the same engine as the one being used for the current renerings of our blargy friends.
> >
> > Please logfish and moa, tell me why glitches involved with a failed hitbox on a prvious halo title would have any effect on a game created by a new company on an almost completey different engine.
> >
> > Balance issue involving sangheilli weaponry are also not a problem as there are only three sangeilli weapons in the game that we know of and they are the plasma pistol, the energy sword and the needler. Those weapons are in the game specifically for what they are designed to do. The needler is a mid range death dealer that is now considered a power weapon, the energy sword fits its close range area, and the plasma pistol is a sidearm designed to quickly take down sheilds or stun an enemy vehicle.
> >
> > We do not know whether or not the elites will take the attributes of their previous renders as this is a new game and we do not have much info on them.
> >
> > Now, please discuss the neck glitch in the halo 3 forum if you wish to continue debating the likelihood of you missing a kill in it.
> >
> > Silent
>
> If you actually read my quote, you would see how I am going completely off that discussion now and going full on against this topic with <mark>canon facts</mark>, nothing related to older game, all pure new stuff.
>
> I would like to point out you said the issues that come with them. You then claim canonical facts. We do not know any issues that come with elites in halo 4 as they are being developed by a new company. They could change them in any which way for the time being.

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> > > Why not give you canon nonsense? The multiplayer is based on canon.
> > > Stop living in denial…
> >
> > How bout stop worrying about us living in denial and just accept that we are not going to change our mind’s when it comes to wanting Elite’s to come back at some point as playable characters. <mark>They will be brought back, they will have balance, and they will do just fine.</mark> I am not saying when they will be back, but it will be someday at least…
>
> Have you got a source to back this up?
>
> We know NOTHING on Halo 5 or 6, only Halo 4, you simply hope they are brought as DLC for Halo 4 now, that is all you can hope for, which would completely ruin any sort of canon behind multiplayer like I am constantly saying now.

I don’t, and right now, I could care less about story, I am focusing on Mutli-player here and the balance issues and such. I can only Speculate on how future games will be like. No playable elites = less profit they could have earned. I already have a bunch of friends who are already pissed at 343i for not including them in Multi-player outside the internet. I could bet they will pull off another Halo 2 thing which the 1st game didn’t had elites playable anyways in the trilogy, but then later after that they were included in later games.

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This is going to get no love, but I know I speak for a large number of people when I say…

“Sod off, dinos. We don’t like you.”

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> > > > > > > > oh god as long as elites are in, im happy. end of balance disscussion…
> > > > > > > > any way, soooo, what is our goal now?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > At this point, some form of response from 343i would be nice.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But we just keep going, hoping to see them in halo 4 as DLC, or halo 5.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Stop living in denial. Elites are confirmed to not be in Halo 4 multiplayer.
> > > > > > We don’t even know if the Covenant plays a big enough role in the game to actually warrant their inclusion as a playable faction.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ok, well this I agree with.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Please stop living in denial; it has been confirmed from multiple official sources that Elites are not showing up on Infinity. The multiplayer is taking a canon approach, and with the Covenant as enemies once more, there is no way they would be training on a UNSC ship.[/h]
> > > > >
> > > > > Once again, I see you use a fact. I grant you that, but the latter is a point o veiw.
> > > > >
> > > > > “We’ve all run the simulations, they’re tough, but they ain’t invincible.” -Ssgt Johnson in regards to the scarab. So, if they had a simualtion in those days, and they didnt even have great technology but it was good enough to run a simulation on a covenant battle platform, then how come now with forrunner technology they cant do a simpl scan of elite combat techniuqes and render them in a holographic battle arena.
> > > > >
> > > > > Honestly, don’t give me canon nonsense.
> > > >
> > > > A scarab is extremely predictable, once they have actually been taken down, like the on in New Mombasa for example, they can take the Scarab apart, find weaknesses’, and how to take them down, to which they can run simulations on it, all Scarabs do is walk and walk, find enemy, kill, circle area until all enemies are killed, walk walk, repeat.
> > > >
> > > > Elites however, are living, breathing people, they are completely unpredictable because of the common sense and knowledge they have in a battlefield.
> > >
> > > They like anyone else have battle strategies. With forunner technology they can easily render an elites strategy, and while not perfect could somewhat duplicate the actions of a sangehili.
> > >
> > > Not only that, but they would easily have the technology to put a spartan and or soldier who has many encounters with elites and knows many of their strategies and battle tactics in control of an elite hologram to simulate for the spartans. The spartans battling would then have the oppurtunity to learn some basic defense strategy against elites, and the spartan controlling it would then learn how an elite would defend itself against a spartan.
> >
> > Implying that Elites can be simulated with Forerunner technology, you are going off simple opinions here, all we know right now is that the UNSC Infinity being used to train Spartan IVs in simulated battlefields, not Elites, as confirmed by 343i, there are 17,000 UNSC personnel aboard the UNSC Infinity, among those are Spartan IVs and Orbital Drop Shock Troopers and other UNSC personnel, likely just marines, there is NO confirmed Elite presence on the UNSC Infinity.
>
> I am going off the simple fact that if they could make a simulation of a scarab (which is alive I must point out as it is controlled my legcolo woms.) when they had worse technology, why not with much more advanced technology would they not be able to create such a simulation of a minor elite battle tactic. I garantee they could easily do a human simulation given time and enough work.
>
> I never said there were elites confirmed on the infinity, nor did I suggest it.
>
> <mark>Scarabs are a lot different than Elites, sure, they are both alive, but the worms used in the Scarab lacks as much intelligence compared to an Elite, like I mentioned earlier, the Elites are unpredictable, you can’t simulate what you aren’t sided with, you lack the knowledge to even come close to make it real.</mark>
>
>
>
> > As for this playable Elites theory as DLC, they aren’t going to ruin any aspect of canon for multiplayer to make you happy, making Elites playable would ruin any sort of canon explanation behind multiplayer because as far as we know, they are enemies and how I believe in Glasslands that ONI has practically forced the Elites to hate the humans again after the uneasy alliance from the Arbiters elites, only backs that up.
>
> I’m going to point out that including the energy sword ruins any canon multiplayer aspect. Only one race has ever acutally weilded that weapon, and that race is not in multiplayer.

<mark>Remember in Campaign when the UNSC Infinity crash lands in Requiem and inside Requiem, there are a ton of Covenant who believe it or not, have Energy Swords, unless all of a sudden, the Spartans, ODSTs & UNSC personnel have become incapable of picking up a inactivated Energy Sword or weapons for research once they escape Requiem, which we know they do because the multiplayer is set after the Campaign, meaning the Infinity is in working condition.</mark>
[/quote]

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> > > > Why not give you canon nonsense? The multiplayer is based on canon.
> > > > Stop living in denial…
> > >
> > > How bout stop worrying about us living in denial and just accept that we are not going to change our mind’s when it comes to wanting Elite’s to come back at some point as playable characters. <mark>They will be brought back, they will have balance, and they will do just fine.</mark> I am not saying when they will be back, but it will be someday at least…
> >
> > Have you got a source to back this up?
> >
> > We know NOTHING on Halo 5 or 6, only Halo 4, you simply hope they are brought as DLC for Halo 4 now, that is all you can hope for, which would completely ruin any sort of canon behind multiplayer like I am constantly saying now.
>
> I don’t, and right now, I could care less about story, I am focusing on Mutli-player here and the balance issues and such. I can only Speculate on how future games will be like. No playable elites = less profit they could have earned. I already have a bunch of friends who are already pissed at 343i for not including them in Multi-player outside the internet. I could bet they will pull off another Halo 2 thing which the 1st game didn’t had elites playable anyways in the trilogy, but then later after that they were included in later games.

So you are willing to drop any sort of canon & story behind multiplayer so you can play as an Elite, because to me that is what it sounds like, balance is out of the question now, the facts are there, they canonically can NOT be on the UNSC Infinity, DLC or not, it would wreck the canon they set in stone and if you want them to break that canon so you can play as an Elite model, then for shame on your greed.

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> > The Prometheans are the only non-Spartan playable charecters in Halo 4. This is Fact. Noone can change that.
>
> Prometheans are not confirmed to be playable, only Spartan IVs, unless I’ve missed some sort of confirmation?

Didn’t Frankie mention that the Elites have been ‘replaced’ by the new enemy class in matchmaking, in the same interview that first denied the Elites presence in matchmaking? it was a while ago but I’ll find a link if I can.

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> > > The Prometheans are the only non-Spartan playable charecters in Halo 4. This is Fact. Noone can change that.
> >
> > Prometheans are not confirmed to be playable, only Spartan IVs, unless I’ve missed some sort of confirmation?
>
> Didn’t Frankie mention that the Elites have been ‘replaced’ by the new enemy class in matchmaking, in the same interview that first denied the Elites presence in matchmaking? it was a while ago but I’ll find a link if I can.

Prometheans weren’t even announced when Elites were confirmed not to be playable.

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> > > > > Why not give you canon nonsense? The multiplayer is based on canon.
> > > > > Stop living in denial…
> > > >
> > > > How bout stop worrying about us living in denial and just accept that we are not going to change our mind’s when it comes to wanting Elite’s to come back at some point as playable characters. <mark>They will be brought back, they will have balance, and they will do just fine.</mark> I am not saying when they will be back, but it will be someday at least…
> > >
> > > Have you got a source to back this up?
> > >
> > > We know NOTHING on Halo 5 or 6, only Halo 4, you simply hope they are brought as DLC for Halo 4 now, that is all you can hope for, which would completely ruin any sort of canon behind multiplayer like I am constantly saying now.
> >
> > I don’t, and right now, I could care less about story, I am focusing on Mutli-player here and the balance issues and such. I can only Speculate on how future games will be like. No playable elites = less profit they could have earned. I already have a bunch of friends who are already pissed at 343i for not including them in Multi-player outside the internet. I could bet they will pull off another Halo 2 thing which the 1st game didn’t had elites playable anyways in the trilogy, but then later after that they were included in later games.
>
> So you are willing to drop any sort of canon & story behind multiplayer so you can play as an Elite, because to me that is what it sounds like, balance is out of the question now, the facts are there, they canonically can NOT be on the UNSC Infinity, DLC or not, it would wreck the canon they set in stone and if you want them to break that canon so you can play as an Elite model, then for shame on your greed.

Greed? If I remember correctly that would be like -Yoink!- up a large amount of money and such. How could I simply be greedy on something I want when I just simply want to play as something that isnt a boring everyday Spartan? Bungie could simply be greedy then because their multi-player was not focused on Canon in which this greed thing your pulling off is invalid.

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Why is this thread still going? 343 have said no Elites in Halo 4 matchmaking.

That’s pretty much it.

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> Why is this thread still going? 343 have said no Elites in Halo 4 matchmaking.
>
> That’s pretty much it.

It turned into a fanboy nerdrage thread between Moa and anyone who dared oppose him :wink:

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> > Why is this thread still going? 343 have said no Elites in Halo 4 matchmaking.
> >
> > That’s pretty much it.
>
> It turned into a fanboy nerdrage thread between Moa and anyone who dared oppose him :wink:

Is it wrong to have opinions and such? Moa is nothing special above us, were all just posting something on here just to express ourselves.

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> > > > > > Why not give you canon nonsense? The multiplayer is based on canon.
> > > > > > Stop living in denial…
> > > > >
> > > > > How bout stop worrying about us living in denial and just accept that we are not going to change our mind’s when it comes to wanting Elite’s to come back at some point as playable characters. <mark>They will be brought back, they will have balance, and they will do just fine.</mark> I am not saying when they will be back, but it will be someday at least…
> > > >
> > > > Have you got a source to back this up?
> > > >
> > > > We know NOTHING on Halo 5 or 6, only Halo 4, you simply hope they are brought as DLC for Halo 4 now, that is all you can hope for, which would completely ruin any sort of canon behind multiplayer like I am constantly saying now.
> > >
> > > I don’t, and right now, I could care less about story, I am focusing on Mutli-player here and the balance issues and such. I can only Speculate on how future games will be like. No playable elites = less profit they could have earned. I already have a bunch of friends who are already pissed at 343i for not including them in Multi-player outside the internet. I could bet they will pull off another Halo 2 thing which the 1st game didn’t had elites playable anyways in the trilogy, but then later after that they were included in later games.
> >
> > So you are willing to drop any sort of canon & story behind multiplayer so you can play as an Elite, because to me that is what it sounds like, balance is out of the question now, the facts are there, they canonically can NOT be on the UNSC Infinity, DLC or not, it would wreck the canon they set in stone and if you want them to break that canon so you can play as an Elite model, then for shame on your greed.
>
> Greed? If I remember correctly that would be like -Yoink!- up a large amount of money and such. How could I simply be greedy on something I want when I just simply want to play as something that isnt a boring everyday Spartan? Bungie could simply be greedy then because their multi-player was not focused on Canon in which this greed thing your pulling off is invalid.

You want 343i to drop the entire Multiplayer canon story so you can play as an Elite, that is greed, and lack of care for the guys, me being one of them, who enjoy the storylines behind Halo.

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> > > Why is this thread still going? 343 have said no Elites in Halo 4 matchmaking.
> > >
> > > That’s pretty much it.
> >
> > It turned into a fanboy nerdrage thread between Moa and anyone who dared oppose him :wink:
>
> Is it wrong to have opinions and such? Moa is nothing special above us, were all just posting something on here just to express ourselves.

I was answering his valid question of why a now-pointless topic kept appearing in the recent topics.

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> > Why is this thread still going? 343 have said no Elites in Halo 4 matchmaking.
> >
> > That’s pretty much it.
>
> It turned into a fanboy nerdrage thread between Moa and anyone who dared oppose him :wink:

I must say,things have gotten very interesting in this thread since Moa appeared in it(was was that,yesterday or something?):wink:

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> > > > > > > oh god as long as elites are in, im happy. end of balance disscussion…
> > > > > > > any way, soooo, what is our goal now?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At this point, some form of response from 343i would be nice.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But we just keep going, hoping to see them in halo 4 as DLC, or halo 5.
> > > > >
> > > > > Stop living in denial. Elites are confirmed to not be in Halo 4 multiplayer.
> > > > > We don’t even know if the Covenant plays a big enough role in the game to actually warrant their inclusion as a playable faction.
> > > >
> > > > Ok, well this I agree with.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Please stop living in denial; it has been confirmed from multiple official sources that Elites are not showing up on Infinity. The multiplayer is taking a canon approach, and with the Covenant as enemies once more, there is no way they would be training on a UNSC ship.
> > > >
> > > > Once again, I see you use a fact. I grant you that, but the latter is a point o veiw.
> > > >
> > > > “We’ve all run the simulations, they’re tough, but they ain’t invincible.” -Ssgt Johnson in regards to the scarab. So, if they had a simualtion in those days, and they didnt even have great technology but it was good enough to run a simulation on a covenant battle platform, then how come now with forrunner technology they cant do a simpl scan of elite combat techniuqes and render them in a holographic battle arena.
> > > >
> > > > Honestly, don’t give me canon nonsense.
> > >
> > > A scarab is extremely predictable, once they have actually been taken down, like the on in New Mombasa for example, they can take the Scarab apart, find weaknesses’, and how to take them down, to which they can run simulations on it, all Scarabs do is walk and walk, find enemy, kill, circle area until all enemies are killed, walk walk, repeat.
> > >
> > > Elites however, are living, breathing people, they are completely unpredictable because of the common sense and knowledge they have in a battlefield.
> >
> > They like anyone else have battle strategies. With forunner technology they can easily render an elites strategy, and while not perfect could somewhat duplicate the actions of a sangehili.
> >
> > Not only that, but they would easily have the technology to put a spartan and or soldier who has many encounters with elites and knows many of their strategies and battle tactics in control of an elite hologram to simulate for the spartans. The spartans battling would then have the oppurtunity to learn some basic defense strategy against elites, and the spartan controlling it would then learn how an elite would defend itself against a spartan.
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> Implying that Elites can be simulated with Forerunner technology, you are going off simple opinions here, all we know right now is that the UNSC Infinity being used to train Spartan IVs in simulated battlefields, not Elites, as confirmed by 343i, there are 17,000 UNSC personnel aboard the UNSC Infinity, among those are Spartan IVs and Orbital Drop Shock Troopers and other UNSC personnel, likely just marines, there is NO confirmed Elite presence on the UNSC Infinity.
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> As for this playable Elites theory as DLC, they aren’t going to ruin any aspect of canon for multiplayer to make you happy, making Elites playable would ruin any sort of canon explanation behind multiplayer because as far as we know, they are enemies and how I believe in Glasslands that ONI has practically forced the Elites to hate the humans again after the uneasy alliance from the Arbiters elites, only backs that up.

I have a question about DLC “ruining Canon”. First off. HOW IN THE HELL DOES MULTIPLAYER NEED TO BE CANON. Explain that to me PLEASE. It doesn’t?

And secondly: DLC Canon “After the events of Spartan Ops/Infinity Multiplayer thus far, Sangheili from the alliance lead by the Arbiter were given special permissions to board the UNSC infinity and train alongside Spartan IVs, the UNSC feels this will give them a greater advantage against the Promethean threat.”

BAM! Canon. Not ruined whatsoever. So please stop being so single minded, and short sighted. Fans raged and hated Halo Reach without the BR, we deserve to rage and hate Halo 4 without Sangheili.