> We already know Elites are not in, which means no Invasion as we know it in Halo 4. Have you considered releasing a game type (both at launch and after launch) which relied on some of the aspects which made Invasion great? –Gabotron ES
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> Elites are in Campaign. Elites are not playable MP types. We will, however, add some interesting variety to MP which will scratch that itch.
Alright. So this brings me two questions.
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He said Elites are not playable MP types. Does this mean there is hope for Custom Games/Forge at least?
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The interesting variety I am sure now is Promethean Knights. Either that or actual Forerunners. Neither of which satisfy anything for me. I’m disappointed.
I just got good news… read this
"We already know Elites are not in, which means no Invasion as we know it in Halo 4. Have you considered releasing a game type (both at launch and after launch) which relied on some of the aspects which made Invasion great? –Gabotron ES
Elites are in Campaign. Elites are not playable MP types. We will, however, add some interesting variety to MP which will scratch that itch."
We learn two things… although not said directly… Elites are playable in campaign (why didnt he say elites are not in MP,but not playable) and that we might be able to play as a different species (= bad)
> I just got good news… read this
> “We already know Elites are not in, which means no Invasion as we know it in Halo 4. Have you considered releasing a game type (both at launch and after launch) which relied on some of the aspects which made Invasion great? –Gabotron ES
>
> Elites are in Campaign. Elites are not playable MP types. We will, however, add some interesting variety to MP which will scratch that itch.”
>
> We learn two things… although not said directly… Elites are playable in campaign (why didnt he say elites are not in MP,but not playable) and that we might be able to play as a different species (= bad)
woops, didnt check the posts before, lol, forgive me…but anyway that is my speculation
> > I just got good news… read this
> > “We already know Elites are not in, which means no Invasion as we know it in Halo 4. Have you considered releasing a game type (both at launch and after launch) which relied on some of the aspects which made Invasion great? –Gabotron ES
> >
> > Elites are in Campaign. Elites are not playable MP types. We will, however, add some interesting variety to MP which will scratch that itch.”
> >
> > We learn two things… although not said directly… Elites are playable in campaign (why didnt he say elites are not in MP,but not playable) and that we might be able to play as a different species (= bad)
>
> woops, didnt check the posts before, lol, forgive me…but anyway that is my speculation
I’m not sure he meant we’re going to play as an elite in Campaign. If they went through the trouble of rendering elites playable for Campaign they would include them in Matchmaking. Besides, Thel 'Vadam’s sections in Halo 2’s campaign were not well received. Which is unfortunate because some of his missions were my favorite of Halo 2’s campaign. Point is Elites are probably not playable in campaign. Unless they decide to include elites in Custom Games. Then it may be likely.
> > > I just got good news… read this
> > > “We already know Elites are not in, which means no Invasion as we know it in Halo 4. Have you considered releasing a game type (both at launch and after launch) which relied on some of the aspects which made Invasion great? –Gabotron ES
> > >
> > > Elites are in Campaign. Elites are not playable MP types. We will, however, add some interesting variety to MP which will scratch that itch.”
> > >
> > > We learn two things… although not said directly… Elites are playable in campaign (why didnt he say elites are not in MP,but not playable) and that we might be able to play as a different species (= bad)
> >
> > woops, didnt check the posts before, lol, forgive me…but anyway that is my speculation
>
> I’m not sure he meant we’re going to play as an elite in Campaign. If they went through the trouble of rendering elites playable for Campaign they would include them in Matchmaking. Besides, Thel 'Vadam’s sections in Halo 2’s campaign were not well received. Which is unfortunate because some of his missions were my favorite of Halo 2’s campaign. Point is Elites are probably not playable in campaign. Unless they decide to include elites in Custom Games. Then it may be likely.
so wish for custom games…right…? great
> > > > I just got good news… read this
> > > > “We already know Elites are not in, which means no Invasion as we know it in Halo 4. Have you considered releasing a game type (both at launch and after launch) which relied on some of the aspects which made Invasion great? –Gabotron ES
> > > >
> > > > Elites are in Campaign. Elites are not playable MP types. We will, however, add some interesting variety to MP which will scratch that itch.”
> > > >
> > > > We learn two things… although not said directly… Elites are playable in campaign (why didnt he say elites are not in MP,but not playable) and that we might be able to play as a different species (= bad)
> > >
> > > woops, didnt check the posts before, lol, forgive me…but anyway that is my speculation
> >
> > I’m not sure he meant we’re going to play as an elite in Campaign. If they went through the trouble of rendering elites playable for Campaign they would include them in Matchmaking. Besides, Thel 'Vadam’s sections in Halo 2’s campaign were not well received. Which is unfortunate because some of his missions were my favorite of Halo 2’s campaign. Point is Elites are probably not playable in campaign. Unless they decide to include elites in Custom Games. Then it may be likely.
>
> so wish for custom games…right…? great
Except Custom Games are a part of Multiplayer (MP).
I’m afraid, as a fellow Elite fan, I’m throwing in the towel in my hope for this feature. I was only holding out for custom games, but he basically confirmed that was out too. Ah, well. Hopefully these “MP aspects” he mentioned will indeed scratch the itch.
Oh Gawd more Elite 343 hasn’t forgotten the Elites they are in the campaign Plus It won’t fit the story The Spartans are in a virtual training room fighting each other.
------ Nuff said------
For now
> Oh Gawd more Elite 343 hasn’t forgotten the Elites they are in the campaign Plus It won’t fit the story The Spartans are in a virtual training room fighting each other.
>
> ------ Nuff said------
>
> For now
How many times does it have to be repeated that if the elites had liasons to the UNSC it would fit canonically for there to be elites onboard the infinity, and yes, everyone and their grandmother knew about elites being in campaign.
(Although the idea of playing as some other race like forerunner or promethean makes me sick to my stomach.)
> <mark>(Although the idea of playing as some other race like forerunner or promethean makes me sick to my stomach.)</mark>
This is so true. I would be incredibly angry if they through out the Elites and added ones like the Promethean. First of all, that wouldn’t fit with canon, the reason they don’t have Elites in it. And it be giving the Elite fan base a middle finger telling them we want a new race and fan base, not yours. But I seriously doubt that they would add the Forerunner enemies as a playable character in Halo 4.
I think was talking about having a gametype like invasion not about having playable elites.
> I think was talking about having a gametype like invasion not about having playable elites.
I can’t wait to hear how the Knights are OP.
> > I think was talking about having a gametype like invasion not about having playable elites.
>
> I can’t wait to hear how the Knights are OP.
I can bet that whatever else we’re offered to play as that isn’t elites will receive more complaints than elites ever got.
while it will be really cool to play whatever Frankie is hinting to we’re playing as, and I won’t complain, but how does it work with the holo-deck (which I’m sure was their excuse for no Elites). why can this species work, but not Elites? I hope they do explain that.
Invasion was confirmed by Kiki at E3 to be in Halo 4. so, Spartans against Spartans would ruin Invasion’s main aspect. while a new species will certainly fix this, why couldn’t we have?:
Spartans against Elites
Spartans against New Species
Elites against New Species
either way, I am really hoping my scratch will be itched, hard. while I can’t paly as an Elite (Sadface), at least I can be something that’s not Human.
> Invasion was confirmed by Kiki at E3 to be in Halo 4.
I just watched every Kiki Wolfkill video I could see on youtube at E3 and can’t find her talking about this - can you link a video please?
The Kiki ones I have seen talk a lot about PvP War Games, loadouts, progression systems, Infinity Slayer, Regicide, Co-op Spartan Ops episodic content but nothing about Invasion in PvP.
Campaign Co-Op confirmed as Master Chief squads - not MC and 3 Elites - 4:10
I’m now skeptical of how much canon will factor into this game if we’re going to have chief clones…
I think the loss of elites upsets me so much (aside from my love of elites above all other alien creatures in media) is really that ME3 multiplayer spoiled me by having a large range of playable character appearances.
> > We already know Elites are not in, which means no Invasion as we know it in Halo 4. Have you considered releasing a game type (both at launch and after launch) which relied on some of the aspects which made Invasion great? –Gabotron ES
> >
> > Elites are in Campaign. Elites are not playable MP types. We will, however, add some interesting variety to MP which will scratch that itch.
>
> Alright. So this brings me two questions.
>
> 1. He said Elites are not playable MP types. Does this mean there is hope for Custom Games/Forge at least?
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> 2. The interesting variety I am sure now is Promethean Knights. Either that or actual Forerunners. Neither of which satisfy anything for me. I’m disappointed.
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Customs is multiplayer and Elites will not feature as a playable form in Halo 4. If they were playable there would be some gametypes as it would be pointless putting time and effort into making the unit playble and not use it.
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They could be referring to simply the gametype of Invasion which was progression through a map were you earned heavier vehicles and weapons. It DOES NOT mean being able to play as a new species but could simply mean something like a Rush gametype similar to BF3.
> All hope is not lost. I have come up with some reasons why Elites have a good chance of being in Halo 5, and perhaps other species as well.
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> 1. Multiplayer, ultimately, is an extension of the Campaign, especially with 343i. In the Halo 4 campaign, we fight Promethean Knights and other drones set to guard Requiem, along with the new threat. The only time we will probably see Elites is in Spartan Ops, since we don’t leave Requiem. Presumably, we will not be in Requiem for Halo 5, opening up the possibility of Elites in the Campaign, greatly increasing our chances of getting Elites in Halo 5 Machmaking (or, War Games).
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> 2. As they’ve said, the Multiplayer revolves around the Spartan IVs, since it is a training ground for said Spartans. In Halo 5, and this is a bit uncertain, we will be able to open up more opportunities for Elites to be in Multiplayer canonically.
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> 3. The alliance between Humans and the Sangheili will probably be explained further in Halo 5, making more Arbiter missions or something like that more likely. Meaning, of course, Elites will be playable.
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> I’ll think of more later. Have faith, my brothers; we will not be forgotten.
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> For Sanghelios!
1: True and the actual Reason
2: also true
3: Intresting Thought
> Elites are in Campaign. Elites are not playable MP types. We will, however, add some interesting variety to MP which will scratch that itch.
Well that makes it clear, and I think this could mena the prometheon knights are playable, wich could be cool. Still, I say wait for Halo 5, maybe they will make Elites playable and maybe the Prometheans to. after enough people have complained about it.
> > Oh Gawd more Elite 343 hasn’t forgotten the Elites they are in the campaign Plus It won’t fit the story The Spartans are in a virtual training room fighting each other.
> >
> > ------ Nuff said------
> >
> > For now
>
> How many times does it have to be repeated that <mark>if the elites had liasons to the UNSC it would fit canonically</mark> for there to be elites onboard the infinity, and yes, everyone and their grandmother knew about elites being in campaign.
>
> (Although the idea of playing as some other race like forerunner or promethean makes me sick to my stomach.)
All truce with the unsc is gone.
“The alliance with these particular Covenant is gone. Every Covenant that you encounter in ‘Halo 4′ specifically is a bad guy, and that will be very apparent why at the start of the game,” O’Connor said. “[The Covenant and Prometheans] will interact with each other and in various different ways. Sometimes they’ll be cooperating with you and other elements they’ll be resisting each other.”
Source:
http://www.ifc.com/fix/2012/06/e3-halo-4-demo-gameplay
the excerpt from gameinformer about one of the spartan ops mission:
“We got to see an early mock-up of the first episode in which Majestic Squad suits up in Spartan armor onboard the Infinity, flies past a massive Star Wars-caliber space battle in a smaller vessel, and attempts to stop Covenant forces from reaching an artifact on Requiem. This faction of Covenant believes that one of their gods resides on the planet, which is occupied with some version of the Forerunners called the Promethians. While Spartan Ops takes place on the same planet as the campaign, 343 promises that unique level designs and geometry separates the two modes in the vast majority of cases.”
Actually, I’m pretty sure they HAVE been “denied” in multiplayer so yah.
For some reason i cant find the source but i know for a fact that Frank or someone else from 343 confirmed there would be no elites in multiplayer and it would be focused on spartans and the new training story behind multiplayer.
and im not going to look for the quote. but whoever said elites should be a able to play in any game mode and that they deserve to be bigger faster and stronger because they are scary aliens is an idiot.
Also…Sangheili lame.
