Sangheili (Elites) In New Trilogy Matchmaking (Part 1)

Games Halo 5: Guardians
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> Why would it be so hard to put Elites in Multiplayer? There are some reasons why they could be in.
>
> 1. Elites are helping the spartans train.
> 2.“AI” Elites fighting the spartans.
> 3.Cerebral copies of an Elite being used by a spartan in-simulation.

Its not that they cant think of any way to fit it into canon, its that it would take time to code them into multiplayer. They would have to to twice the amount of animations, mug testing, voicing, make a new HUD etc. In the end it’s not worth it because all elite in MM will do is either not change gameplay, or make it slightly worse. (See Halo 3 SWAT playlist.)

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> > Why would it be so hard to put Elites in Multiplayer? There are some reasons why they could be in.
> >
> > 1. Elites are helping the spartans train.
> > 2.“AI” Elites fighting the spartans.
> > 3.Cerebral copies of an Elite being used by a spartan in-simulation.
>
> Its not that they cant think of any way to fit it into canon, its that it would take time to code them into multiplayer. They would have to to twice the amount of animations, mug testing, voicing, make a new HUD etc. In the end it’s not worth it because all elite in MM will do is either not change gameplay, or make it slightly worse. (See Halo 3 SWAT playlist.)

And people look back at the Halo 3 Swat why? These are Halo 4 Sangheili models are designed to not be anything like the hunchbacks like before and with better hit boxes. Adding Sangheili into Matchmaking will have 343i earn more money in their pockets because it pleases their own audience and makes the game look a lot more fun to play. I’m pretty sure both the casuals and the competitive play as an Elite anyways.

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wow this thred is huge, congrats guys. I personally don’t like elites in match making but this is impressive. I think the reason why they are not in multiplayer is that the hit boxes would change and they would have to make elites more akin to the halo 3 hunch backs that look crap compared to reaches and 4’s awesome dino’s. and I would rather have the huge, imposing awesome guys than some little hunch back gecko, but well done guys, this is a very impressive thred. :smiley:

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I hope tomorrow Elites are revealed to actually be playable in some sort of gamemode.

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How the Elites can be put into Infinity/War Games without breaking cannon.:

The Spartans need to practice in fighting Covenant as the threat is still there, therefore Infinity’s holo-deck will create AI Elites. So Spartan-IVs can train better.

(It sounded so much better in my head)

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> How the Elites can be put into Infinity/War Games without breaking cannon.:
>
> The Spartans need to practice in fighting Covenant as the threat is still there, therefore Infinity’s holo-deck will create AI Elites. So Spartan-IVs can train better.
>
> (It sounded so much better in my head)

It still is a lot more better than removing them entirely. I just don’t know if 343 has realized the opportunity on what they are missing out on…

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> > How the Elites can be put into Infinity/War Games without breaking cannon.:
> >
> > The Spartans need to practice in fighting Covenant as the threat is still there, therefore Infinity’s holo-deck will create AI Elites. So Spartan-IVs can train better.
> >
> > (It sounded so much better in my head)
>
> It still is a lot more better than removing them entirely. I just don’t know if 343 has realized the opportunity on what they are missing out on…

Perhaps no Elites is just one big troll and at E3, they say “Elites will be in Halo 4 we were just trolling”

Doubt it though.

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> > > How the Elites can be put into Infinity/War Games without breaking cannon.:
> > >
> > > The Spartans need to practice in fighting Covenant as the threat is still there, therefore Infinity’s holo-deck will create AI Elites. So Spartan-IVs can train better.
> > >
> > > (It sounded so much better in my head)
> >
> > It still is a lot more better than removing them entirely. I just don’t know if 343 has realized the opportunity on what they are missing out on…
>
> Perhaps no Elites is just one big troll and at E3, they say “Elites will be in Halo 4 we were just trolling”
>
> Doubt it though.

Perhaps…Perhaps

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As long as they are playable in customs, I’ll be happy that way too.

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> As long as they are playable in customs, I’ll be happy that way too.

Well they didn’t give much info yet.

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Tomorrow’s our last hope brother’s and sister’s.

But I still think we should focus our energy’s on Halo 5, I would much rather launch a pre-emphitive strike on Halo 5 MM then a losing battle on Halo 4 MM.

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> As long as they are playable in customs, I’ll be happy that way too.

According to david ellis (As prompted by Bumper Jumpz): Elites will not be playable in Halo 4.

Bumper jumpz soon replied with: Does that mean in matchmaking, or all of halo 4.

Ellis: Elites will not be playable in halo 4 at all. Period.

Guys, we lost. And unless they have been pulling our finger this entire time, we aren’t going to get elites in halo 4 mathcmaking anytime soon.

I don’t know why they made this decision, and honestly I can’t find a good reason, but they clearly have one. But they are doing what they wan’t with the game. Now, look at the treads lately, look at the info we have.

Guys, I havent just lost hope in elites, I’ve lost hope in halo. I know they stated that they werent making bungies halo, but I fell in love with three things.

The great story, and the universe around it.

The great gamestlye promoted by an arena shooter, and the universe it created. 343i has changed both those things on me. Halo once stood for balance, and I still loved halo 3, reach irked me, but during the first look I still fought for hope.

AA could work, Loadouts could work, Armor Enhancements could work, but weapon skins, and unlockable system, spartan skins, kill cams, instant respawns, killstreaks…

Guys, I know i sound like a typical ranter, but take a look for yourself. Some of these just don’t work for halo. And i know i have a different veiw on halo than you guys might, but for me, weapon skins and killstreaks crosses the line.

I would stay in the game for one thing, the diversity in which the included species brought us. Campaign and spartan ops is what will keep me here. But with absolutley no diversity in multiplayer, and some of the broken mechanics suggested… i don’t know if I can take it.

I’ll still play, and I will always support the return of the elites. The elites were a fundamental bright spot of halo, and I really, really want them back. They offered an experience no other game has ever offered.

And thats what most people love about halo, is that it is a truly, well crafted experience. But now part of what made it what it is is gone.

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> Tomorrow’s our last hope brother’s and sister’s.
>
> But I still think we should focus our energy’s on Halo 5, I would much rather launch a pre-emphitive strike on Halo 5 MM then a losing battle on Halo 4 MM.

an intresting thought but its 2 years from now.

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> > Tomorrow’s our last hope brother’s and sister’s.
> >
> > But I still think we should focus our energy’s on Halo 5, I would much rather launch a pre-emphitive strike on Halo 5 MM then a losing battle on Halo 4 MM.
>
> an intresting thought but its 2 years from now.

The early bird catches the worm.

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> > > Tomorrow’s our last hope brother’s and sister’s.
> > >
> > > But I still think we should focus our energy’s on Halo 5, I would much rather launch a pre-emphitive strike on Halo 5 MM then a losing battle on Halo 4 MM.
> >
> > an intresting thought but its 2 years from now.
>
> The early bird catches the worm.

I suppose, But I know this for a fact, 343 loves every faction of the Halo fanbase
evan the Elite fans.

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> > > > Tomorrow’s our last hope brother’s and sister’s.
> > > >
> > > > But I still think we should focus our energy’s on Halo 5, I would much rather launch a pre-emphitive strike on Halo 5 MM then a losing battle on Halo 4 MM.
> > >
> > > an intresting thought but its 2 years from now.
> >
> > The early bird catches the worm.
>
> I suppose, But I know this for a fact, 343 loves every faction of the Halo fanbase
> evan the Elite fans.

Maybe, but at this point I am very, very skeptical they care about elite fans.

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I honestly don’t know, but 343i knows that there are many elite players who are not going away. But they also know that many spartan players are opposed to elite models simply because they are different.

Maybe we will get elites in Customs. We must wait 12 hours and see.

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Agreed. I prefer spartans anyway, but it’s important for people to have more choices. That and invasion is my favorite gametype…

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> I honestly don’t know, but 343i knows that there are many elite players who are not going away. But they also know that many spartan players are opposed to elite models simply because they are different.
>
> Maybe we will get elites in Customs. We must wait 12 hours and see.

We can only hope and see none the less…Hell, just a few more hours left…

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Today is the day. The day when brothers and sisters have united together to find out if the alien species we have cared about for so long and are is truly in the holo-deck. Wether in customs, or not at all, we will be shown how they have listened, and either reveal themselves to be true heretics and speciest to us and trying to be nice explaining their excuses as Humans so tend to do, poorly. Or, we will be given hope.

Out of darkness, these blades have lite our way. We will be no longer blind on this day, for we are Sangheili! And the truth will be revealed.

It’s been a good topic and an honorable battle. A long way coming. For all that have spoken their voices, I bow to you. For even some Humans have agreed to let us stay. The hierachs will expose themselves in the coming hours on this day. And we will see if we have won. Or we have lost. Either way, I wish the best of luck to us all.

Sangheili To The End.

And that was probably the most nerdiest thing I have EVER typed. Either way, it is true. You guys are all awesome. And to see this as the final day to be either disappointed, or jump in joy…

I salute my hat. To all of you.